I become a billionaire and then I get taxed out of it? And then they use the money for good things to help people not just in my country but other ones? Fuck yeah!
American democracy is not 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. American democracy is 3 sheep and a wolf voting on whats for dinner and trying to figure out how the vote came out for sheep for dinner.
Been telling my breakfast buddies that pretty regularly. Rebuttals have been dwindling, but none have changed their minds. It will be interesting when their grandkids start asking them “WHY?”
He literally said he was going to do all of these things. So either his own supporters don't believe a word he says either or they convinced themselves that he'd spare them.
Said it before, going to say it again. Something being "meant as a joke" doesn't magically make it not offensive. Also, remember the Litany of Trump Excuses. "He didn't say that. Or he didn't mean it. Or you took it out of context. Or others have said worse."
Trump is a Rorschach test. He says all kinds of bullshit, often contradicting himself, and people project their own desires onto him. They think he'll only do the things they want him to do, and he's "just trolling the libs" with the other stuff.
I can't help wondering whether a person who lies on purpose to upset people and pretends it was a joke when the people get mad is really the kind of person we need running the country.
They think they are special. Or better. Or...somehow more important. They think the fascist machine is on their side. But fascism has no real side, no principles or values, nor an actual ideology. The only goal is more power and glory to whoever is on top, and they are willing to sacrifice anything and anyone to get it.
And even then it is only for as long as they remain absolutely loyal and supportive of their "dear leader", no matter what he does to them or anyone else. Talk about being in an abusive relationship...
We've reached a point where, in spite all of the problems still needing resolution, the US has had it too good. Too many of its citizens have gone too long without consequences that they might never have even learned to have them. And the last more-than-a-decade is the result.
I live in a red area and when talked about they legit think Rs will make everything so cheap and give us so much wealth from jobs that no one needs social programs. It just doesn't work that way.
But it is typical of leftists to argue with everyone and everything, even themselves, thus ensuring the right (who amazingly seem capable of putting their differences aside) to get into power.
Happens everywhere, all the time.
As a centrist I will work with anyone on the left to get sensible meritocratic policies passed, and level the playing field for the disadvantaged.
The right can fuck right off. And I mean RIGHT OFF. Then keep going. And fuck off more
This. And I genuinely am disappointed that you are downvoted so much.
Lefties always fight anyone, even their own side.
Case study: Spanish Civil War. The left lost it not because the fractured right were stronger but because the left fought them, and each other. Violently at times.
Seems ideology will trump pragmatism every time with the left, when the real enemies are the right wing wankers.
Considering the US has a far right party and a center right party a centrist is nowdays a solid right wing person who will constantly complain about the center right being too far left and extremist all the while seeing the fascist far right as not a specifically big problem and a possible group to vote for.
I was a centrist or even a republican until 2016. Now I'm a liberal-adjacent because even if I don't agree with their policies, I've seen the alternative. And the image above is accurate.
No it's not. "Liberal adjacent" "don't agree with their politicies" that's a centrist. You're still a centrist. Are you like the image above? No? Then it's not accurate.
The Problem is moving of the Goalposts. An American Centrist would be right-wing in Europe. The Tea-Party movement and later the Magat Movement have been moving the Goalpost of Center-Politics more to the right every year, by declearing moderate Centrist politics as "Communist and Sozialistic" left-extremism. For you Americans: Healthcare and social security are centre-conservative talking Points since the 1880's in Europe and NOT Leftist ideas. Otto von Bismarck was everything but a leftist!
Universal Healthcare and insurance for workers started in 1883 in Germany and the general Social Security in 1889 by the conservative-centrist Bismarck. Other countries followed that example later.
You’re so full of shit. The center? You know what the center is supposed to do? Vote to NOT allow the country to fall off the right wing cliff. But no, you couldn’t be bothered because of those gosh darn mean “leftists”. So mean to point out that Trump’s policies were going to lead EXACTLY to where we are right now.
I like how you see someone disagreeing with you and you have to immediately treat it as if it's because I am being defensive of myself, and not that I actually know what a centrist is and just disagree with you.
But sure, keep up with your insane tribalism bullshit. Worked out so well last time, right? Clearly it's everyone else's fault, you definitely couldn't change at all.
Then give us your definition of a centrist. Because every centrist in my family and friend group is absolutely different in their views. So I can’t wait to hear yours.
And it’s not my job to make you feel welcome. It’s my job to show facts and point out that your positions are not in any way, shape or form “centrist” if you voted for Trump.
Every centrist is different in their views. I never disagreed with that or said anything to suggest otherwise so I don't know why you're statement is suggesting that.
And yes, If you want people to vote for your party it kinda is your job to make them feel welcome. Otherwise, they won't vote for your party and you'll lose, like what happened.
A "centrist" is just someone who does not feel themselves fully aligned with either party, and usually has views that pick from both left and right
If a man is being stabbed and you take no action you only help the stabber. For all he needs is one to do nothing, and the victim needs help. In that choice doing nothing only satisfies the needs of the aggressor.
Nah fam. It's the opposite. Been playing "the adult" for too long and now these grifting Nazis have festered in the undergrowth of "tolerance." Time to burn them out and if you disagree it's hard to not think you're being a bad actor/willfully ignorant. No sympathy for folks pretending to be center at this point in the game.
Maverickaura
this is such a nice banner because its not a threat if you voted for the liberal party.
jeejeejerrycotton
My own personal tramway? Cool but a bit against the spirit of what I voted for.
cousteau
I find this absolutely wrong, OP. Red goes on the outside and violet on the inside!
OperatorWay
onychoprion
And people who don't like pizza, and then didn't vote for pizza, are surprised when the knifes are pulled out.
PeaceBaby
and pizza didn't win ... pizza didn't win.
Davos10
I become a billionaire and then I get taxed out of it? And then they use the money for good things to help people not just in my country but other ones? Fuck yeah!
RTK4740
This is the meanest thing you could say to a Republican right now. And the best.
EvangelicalAtheist
American democracy is not 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. American democracy is 3 sheep and a wolf voting on whats for dinner and trying to figure out how the vote came out for sheep for dinner.
bourbonandbaddecisions
meergull
I voted for improved social benefits, so thank you. Also, not from US
huettelshops1337
Did you get everything you wanted?
Did the leopards eat your face yet?
MaleProstateMilker88
I keep voting and nothing I ever vote for happens.
sabrinadiesatdawn
I also hope I get universal healthcare and my kids get a robust safety net
simbion
I wish it would only happen to the people who voted for them but sadly they are taking us all down with them.
painstream
I wish. ;_; I voted for lower housing prices and a stable government.
HonestCommentFarmer
Joe Biden, Obama, and Hilary Clinton bust down my door?
unluckyandbored
I told a bunch of right-wingers just after the election "I hope you get everything you voted for" and they got really, REALLY angry.
bamcobra
Been telling my breakfast buddies that pretty regularly. Rebuttals have been dwindling, but none have changed their minds. It will be interesting when their grandkids start asking them “WHY?”
cjandstuff
May you be shown the mercy you want for others.
WinstonSmith101
It was the fuck around of times,
It was the find out of times.
cousteau
Find out. Sure. Those idiots ain't gonna find out shit. And whatever they do find they'll shrug it off and blame it on someone else.
twisteddkarma
Zipbang
We are not even in the middle of the first QUARTER of this bullshitery....
Shaodyn
He literally said he was going to do all of these things. So either his own supporters don't believe a word he says either or they convinced themselves that he'd spare them.
super3dcow
Whenever he says something terrible: "He's just joking, obviously!" As if that somehow makes it better.
Shaodyn
Said it before, going to say it again. Something being "meant as a joke" doesn't magically make it not offensive.
Also, remember the Litany of Trump Excuses. "He didn't say that. Or he didn't mean it. Or you took it out of context. Or others have said worse."
flail
Trump is a Rorschach test. He says all kinds of bullshit, often contradicting himself, and people project their own desires onto him. They think he'll only do the things they want him to do, and he's "just trolling the libs" with the other stuff.
Shaodyn
I can't help wondering whether a person who lies on purpose to upset people and pretends it was a joke when the people get mad is really the kind of person we need running the country.
BrokenAnimal
They think they are special. Or better. Or...somehow more important. They think the fascist machine is on their side. But fascism has no real side, no principles or values, nor an actual ideology. The only goal is more power and glory to whoever is on top, and they are willing to sacrifice anything and anyone to get it.
Shaodyn
The people who support it may be thrown under the proverbial bus last, but it's still going to happen.
BrokenAnimal
And even then it is only for as long as they remain absolutely loyal and supportive of their "dear leader", no matter what he does to them or anyone else. Talk about being in an abusive relationship...
Shaodyn
The *instant* they drop down to only 99.9999999% loyalty, they're no better than the enemy.
Skr121
You Monster!
redpandabanana
PeaceBaby
I wish this too, but my butt's not as nice as it used to be.
cousteau
…okay so pardon me for creeping on your profile, I just want to check one little thing…
n0n53n53
People who take offense to this, should
Silkyninja1
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dGk0NDYxZG01MHMxMmpxb3h3cTRyODBuYnVhc3VscTFsOTBzdm9rZiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/VEseE5via93U2cn1BS/200w.webp
lazycrow
Right? I wanna know what the rest of it said but not enough to reverse search it. Just gonna assume the missing text changes it to the opposite party.
Imalwaysready
It looks like a reflection of the text above. Probably a good thing it got cropped, really.
Dimind
Thank you. :)
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
I got outvoted, so I doubt the catgirl army will be "depwoyed" to deliver me psychedelic mushrooms covered by nationalized healthcare. :3
FrozenMojo
I didn't see that on the ballet now I'm sad. I want those things too
TryHardEggplant
A catgirl ballet? I would go out to see that. Or do you mean a ballot to bring out the voters? Or both?
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Still, I hope it happens. <3
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1d3Q0dTNqZWl2N3JlamV0d3E5Y2trbXh4Z3RrcmtpZnh5cDlqY2NuaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/ZfK4cXKJTTay1Ava29/200w.webp
getadogupya
Teratoid
Stolen. Thank you. I shall share.
PeaceBaby
I want this more than revenge or being right. We had a decent thing going, and it could have been better. Now we have even more work to do.
BrokenAnimal
And this, to them, is a sign of weakness. Yeah, I don't understand them either.
TheobromineAddict
Yes. They are insulted and suspicious of empathy.
WinstonSmith101
People always fear the unknown. And they have never known nor experienced empathy.
imguursuuxhaard
I wish I could feel this. I truly do. But sadly, I’m more in a “swallow your medicine” kind of mood for these socially ignorant losers.
painstream
We've reached a point where, in spite all of the problems still needing resolution, the US has had it too good. Too many of its citizens have gone too long without consequences that they might never have even learned to have them. And the last more-than-a-decade is the result.
Wuz314159
SonnyVabitch
Hmm, is it AOC "far left", or Trotsky far left? Much of what is labelled as far left in contemporary US politics is just being a decent person.
ChesterBangs
I live in a red area and when talked about they legit think Rs will make everything so cheap and give us so much wealth from jobs that no one needs social programs. It just doesn't work that way.
bamcobra
Yep. Ditto here in W PA.
WinstonSmith101
Not how centrists think.
At all.
But it is typical of leftists to argue with everyone and everything, even themselves, thus ensuring the right (who amazingly seem capable of putting their differences aside) to get into power.
Happens everywhere, all the time.
As a centrist I will work with anyone on the left to get sensible meritocratic policies passed, and level the playing field for the disadvantaged.
The right can fuck right off.
And I mean RIGHT OFF.
Then keep going. And fuck off more
Dannoboyo
Also thought by some ego driven progressives
Someshithead241
That's not what a centrist is and you'd do well to fix your toxic attitude towards them if you actually want their help in winning next time.
Or keep your head in the dirt and shitting out tribalism bullshit and wondering why no one wants to play with you
WinstonSmith101
This. And I genuinely am disappointed that you are downvoted so much.
Lefties always fight anyone, even their own side.
Case study: Spanish Civil War. The left lost it not because the fractured right were stronger but because the left fought them, and each other. Violently at times.
Seems ideology will trump pragmatism every time with the left, when the real enemies are the right wing wankers.
Ircy
Considering the US has a far right party and a center right party a centrist is nowdays a solid right wing person who will constantly complain about the center right being too far left and extremist all the while seeing the fascist far right as not a specifically big problem and a possible group to vote for.
pork4brains
Too true
WeHaventMet
liberal scratched
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
I was a centrist or even a republican until 2016. Now I'm a liberal-adjacent because even if I don't agree with their policies, I've seen the alternative. And the image above is accurate.
Someshithead241
No it's not. "Liberal adjacent" "don't agree with their politicies" that's a centrist. You're still a centrist. Are you like the image above? No? Then it's not accurate.
Elkarlo77
The Problem is moving of the Goalposts. An American Centrist would be right-wing in Europe. The Tea-Party movement and later the Magat Movement have been moving the Goalpost of Center-Politics more to the right every year, by declearing moderate Centrist politics as "Communist and Sozialistic" left-extremism. For you Americans: Healthcare and social security are centre-conservative talking Points since the 1880's in Europe and NOT Leftist ideas. Otto von Bismarck was everything but a leftist!
Someshithead241
The problem is people think centrist means you need to sit on the fence or be in the middle of every single point. When that's not what it is.
Elkarlo77
Universal Healthcare and insurance for workers started in 1883 in Germany and the general Social Security in 1889 by the conservative-centrist Bismarck. Other countries followed that example later.
sphericalworld
You’re so full of shit. The center? You know what the center is supposed to do? Vote to NOT allow the country to fall off the right wing cliff. But no, you couldn’t be bothered because of those gosh darn mean “leftists”. So mean to point out that Trump’s policies were going to lead EXACTLY to where we are right now.
Someshithead241
I like how you see someone disagreeing with you and you have to immediately treat it as if it's because I am being defensive of myself, and not that I actually know what a centrist is and just disagree with you.
But sure, keep up with your insane tribalism bullshit. Worked out so well last time, right? Clearly it's everyone else's fault, you definitely couldn't change at all.
sphericalworld
Then give us your definition of a centrist. Because every centrist in my family and friend group is absolutely different in their views. So I can’t wait to hear yours.
And it’s not my job to make you feel welcome. It’s my job to show facts and point out that your positions are not in any way, shape or form “centrist” if you voted for Trump.
Someshithead241
Every centrist is different in their views. I never disagreed with that or said anything to suggest otherwise so I don't know why you're statement is suggesting that.
And yes, If you want people to vote for your party it kinda is your job to make them feel welcome. Otherwise, they won't vote for your party and you'll lose, like what happened.
A "centrist" is just someone who does not feel themselves fully aligned with either party, and usually has views that pick from both left and right
averageNerdyGuy
Get fucked. There isn’t a centre, anymore. If you’re not dead-set against the GOP/Nazi party of America, then you’re with them.
WinstonSmith101
I hate the Nazis. Your problem - beyond American defaulting, is assuming your Democrats are left of centre.
::laughs in European politics::
Bernie Sanders is mildly left of centre. Kamala Harris wasn’t. By Eu and UK standards, she’s right of centre.
The US is lost and fucked, and you’ve done it to yourselves.
All empires fall, and the most powerful fall from within…
History tells us this clearly.
Someshithead241
So clearly it's the head in sand, tribalism bullshit for you. Wonderful. You're part of the reason you lost
Redraz2021
If a man is being stabbed and you take no action you only help the stabber. For all he needs is one to do nothing, and the victim needs help. In that choice doing nothing only satisfies the needs of the aggressor.
averageNerdyGuy
It’s gonna be an uphill battle to reason someone off of a hill they unreasoned themselves onto.
VerifiedApproves
Nah fam. It's the opposite. Been playing "the adult" for too long and now these grifting Nazis have festered in the undergrowth of "tolerance." Time to burn them out and if you disagree it's hard to not think you're being a bad actor/willfully ignorant. No sympathy for folks pretending to be center at this point in the game.
Someshithead241
You do understand someone can be centre and agree with that, right? That they aren't "pretending" because, once again, that is not what centre is.
averageNerdyGuy
You know what? You’re not worth the spoons.
Someshithead241
I never expected anything more from you than this, and still you disappointed