Closed borders, mass deportations to concentration camps, military occupation of cities, ICE gestapo, rampant killing of "non-whites," and the threat of invading other countries so we can do the same to them. Can the world just declare war on us so we can end the Fourth Reich already?
Rand's missing the point on a grand scale here. It's not that he doesn't realise the ultimate outcome when you start executing people without a trial. He realises it. And he craves it. He is not mistaken in his actions or thoughtless in his application of lethal force, he is using lethal force to obtain exactly the outcome he desires.
They were very clearly NOT drug smugglers. 11 people in a boat which could easily be crewed by 2 would be a massive waste of space that could have been used for more drugs. Cartels do not operate that inefficiently and survive.
Well Mr. Paul, you could have tried to stop this madness but you chose to enable Trump and his gang of of grifters until very recently. Perhaps you'd have more credibility if you stopped voting for everything Trump wants. "Libertarian" my ass...
The best time to do the right thing is right away; the second best time is right now.
That said, I will believe it when I see it, Rand. Talk is cheap and you helped get us into a very bad situation. You have a lot to make up for and a social media post doesn't begin to scratch the gd surface.
Libertarians are like house cats. Fiercely convinced of their own independence while utterly reliant on a system they neither appreciate nor understand.
Then don't. It's bizarre to think that To kill a mockingbird of all books would move a dead heart of a republican. For them black man being falsely accused, sentenced and killed is desired outcome. Why choose a book where due process fails (and only justice handed out is of vigilante kind) to defend the due process?
The next Kilmar will be killed "accidentally" in a military strike. "Yes, he definitely was a drug dealer, we photoshopped this picture!". Or maybe they will immediately go after political rivals, who knows.
In this case those political rivals are Republicans who sign the petition to release the Epstein files and, by doing so, are committing a hostile act according to the admin.
USA isn’t party to the ICC and they have been charged with crimes against humanity in the past by the ICJ for their support of the Contras in Nicuragua. They basically ignored it. Bush jr also passed a Hague invasion act which gives permission to the US army to invade The Hague if an American is found guilty of anything there.
If you're entirely sure about that. It's not as if the missile they shot into that boat stopped to take names, after all, and I haven't heard of any efforts being made to recover the dead for identification or a decent burial.
Does it matter if they were US citizens, and why? As for being sure, the corpse of a man with injuries that could have come from a missile washed up on a beach in Trinidad today, so he might be identifiable as a crewman on that boat. If so, then maybe someone can find out who he sailed with and what their cargo was. There are still no reports of search-and-rescue operations.
That text says nothing about the nationality of the targets. I was not up to date on Venezuela, last I heard anything about the US military and civilians it was DC and Chicago.
Cloudraker
Killing traitors to the constitution and their own oaths is the best use of our 2nd amendment.
PumpkinDriver5
WTF how do I agree with Rand Paul now?
KlobberSaurus
Welp he is a fucking nazi so... .
SofaH3ro
Rand Paul has been shamelessly part of the problem for a decade. His dad was one of the last real Libertarians, even if he was a bit off.
EmeRgencyDrD
Two pieces of shit.
herrcane
Did he forget that Trump *already* demanded that five innocent black kids be put to death? Trump IS Bob Ewell, and proud of it.
MissFace
I'm not convinced he can read.
moleclaw76
He’s right about this, but fuck rand Paul.
Lance4lot
Killing criminals... Why is Trump still alive then?
Tesaphine
Closed borders, mass deportations to concentration camps, military occupation of cities, ICE gestapo, rampant killing of "non-whites," and the threat of invading other countries so we can do the same to them. Can the world just declare war on us so we can end the Fourth Reich already?
CoeurFranc
What astounds me is the international silence about it.
Breetai69
Rand's missing the point on a grand scale here. It's not that he doesn't realise the ultimate outcome when you start executing people without a trial. He realises it. And he craves it. He is not mistaken in his actions or thoughtless in his application of lethal force, he is using lethal force to obtain exactly the outcome he desires.
friendsofsandwiches
IF he read...
He would likely think Tom should have been strung up right away.
OperatorWay
How does RP feel about child predators?
chkm9mkxwj
JD Vance. A festering pustule on the ass of the American people.
Hatsodoom
vance didnt read, he was too busy finding his fetish in high school. (couches)
Ijustwantquiet
No due process always results in killing innocent people you don't like.
CelestialSea
They were very clearly NOT drug smugglers. 11 people in a boat which could easily be crewed by 2 would be a massive waste of space that could have been used for more drugs. Cartels do not operate that inefficiently and survive.
chkm9mkxwj
I suspect Vance of a crime. Somebody launch a missile at the cunt!
SuperfluousMeh
God damn it now I'm agreeing with Rand Paul? What the fuck y'all?!
beenbannedb4
Well Mr. Paul, you could have tried to stop this madness but you chose to enable Trump and his gang of of grifters until very recently. Perhaps you'd have more credibility if you stopped voting for everything Trump wants. "Libertarian" my ass...
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Margrave9000
Yup. Somebody is pulling all the strings.
HowlingRollercoaster2
The best time to do the right thing is right away; the second best time is right now.
That said, I will believe it when I see it, Rand. Talk is cheap and you helped get us into a very bad situation. You have a lot to make up for and a social media post doesn't begin to scratch the gd surface.
Lampmonster
Yup, we definitely need to accept those who turn against this madness, but the need to actually do it first.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
They went after alleged drug smugglers, so of course the libertarian is upset now.
Shaodyn
Libertarians are like house cats. Fiercely convinced of their own independence while utterly reliant on a system they neither appreciate nor understand.
ChesterBangs
I will say both Moderate Dems and Moderate Republicans really thought they could rein in Trump after the first term. Man are they stupid
IslaNublar
"Did you read-" let me just stop you right there. The answer is already no. The most these fuckers read are Twitter and their bank accounts going up.
idiotsonfire
Killing fascists is the best use for an armed populace.
Clockworkdancerobot
JD'd be right there lynching Tom Robinson.
WoodORama
When I agree with Rand Paul., the world is lost.
SalmonTheWise
Then don't. It's bizarre to think that To kill a mockingbird of all books would move a dead heart of a republican. For them black man being falsely accused, sentenced and killed is desired outcome. Why choose a book where due process fails (and only justice handed out is of vigilante kind) to defend the due process?
vericon151
Oh he says ok things at times, but his voting record / actions show what a pos he is.
CASchoeps
The next Kilmar will be killed "accidentally" in a military strike. "Yes, he definitely was a drug dealer, we photoshopped this picture!".
Or maybe they will immediately go after political rivals, who knows.
Baconlovesyoutoo
In this case those political rivals are Republicans who sign the petition to release the Epstein files and, by doing so, are committing a hostile act according to the admin.
medimr
Isn't Rand Paul a Republican senator? Do something about it, shithead.
beenbannedb4
Nah, he is just trying to 'look good' to his "libertarian" base. You know what a libertarian is, right? Just a sparkling Republican.
VoidScreamer
Libertarians are just Republicans who like pot.
fillerbunny9
And abolishing the age of consent, but then I’m being redundant….
beenbannedb4
O, that's a 'pubertarian' ...
lostlittletimeonthis
A hooder right winger
enheru
The party of law and order sure likes illegally murdering people without due process.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Law for thee and order for me me me.
SuperFerret
That's what "law and order" means. Their laws, their order.
Zeterai
"We make the laws, and you follow our orders."
turkizno
plus Trump and Orbán both are all about "Peace" while funding massacres and feeding their war machines.
LordofGoats
Peace through destroying anything they don't like or could oppose them.
dogboybastard
the military killing civilians is a war crime
Cycocidal
Thats the part he said "i dont give a shit" to.
CelestialSea
And they weren't smuggling drugs. Cartels don't put 11 people in a boat that can be crewed by 2 at most when you could use that space for drugs.
Stabunaattori
one the US military is well practiced.
torisenblack
The rest of the conversation:

themigbro
This is a person that defies law and the justice system. US has become a full blown shithole. No /s
torisenblack
I have honestly been wondering if I will outlive my country.
Worst part is I've been wondering if that's a bad thing.
thedarkcanuck
Yeah, well, they can apparently do whatever the fuck they want with impunity. It's up to American citizens to fix that, because nobody else can
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Just add it to the long list of crimes that the Republicans won't ever acknowledge because it benefits them.
deaththeunholy
Hope the ICC charges the whole admin
mmontour
The US government wouldn't allow it. They have more guns than the ICC.
georgejimmydoodle
Doesn't Trump have a trip to the UK coming up?
darthnerdus6236
The US isn't a member of the ICC and there's no country in the world that will enforce it.
Margrave9000
The ICC should be considered international jus cogens.
qwertdeep
USA isn’t party to the ICC and they have been charged with crimes against humanity in the past by the ICJ for their support of the Contras in Nicuragua. They basically ignored it. Bush jr also passed a Hague invasion act which gives permission to the US army to invade The Hague if an American is found guilty of anything there.
Higure
Not if it's your own military killing your own civilians. A crime, yes, but not a war crime.
SnailsAgainstTungstenSpheres
Well, this event wasn't US civilians. So, war crime.
HeAmbledVaguelyEastwards
If you're entirely sure about that. It's not as if the missile they shot into that boat stopped to take names, after all, and I haven't heard of any efforts being made to recover the dead for identification or a decent burial.
Selfawerewolf
Do you think US civilians were on the boat? What would make you "sure" if so?
HeAmbledVaguelyEastwards
Does it matter if they were US citizens, and why? As for being sure, the corpse of a man with injuries that could have come from a missile washed up on a beach in Trinidad today, so he might be identifiable as a crewman on that boat. If so, then maybe someone can find out who he sailed with and what their cargo was. There are still no reports of search-and-rescue operations.
NorthmanoftheNorth
"Nyet, as I hrefn't declared var on dem" - VlaDonal Trutin
ExTechOp
In this case, it was the US military killing Venezuelan civilians in international waters.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/02/politics/us-military-strike-caribbean
Higure
Well, that's an entirely different story, then.
pandemicmodedad
Isn't that an act of war?
Higure
A criminal one, at that.
Selfawerewolf
Yes. The one this post is referring to. Welcome to the land of context, friend.
Higure
That text says nothing about the nationality of the targets. I was not up to date on Venezuela, last I heard anything about the US military and civilians it was DC and Chicago.