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2InchesOfDanglingFury
FUCK. I am, profoundly, disappointed.
lucivjov
The only appropriate doxxing, but sucks he was one of us. They’re among us
Kaldak
Didn't see that coming. Damn
FrogBotherer
machmach
thisismysociallife
BobbyVegana
Arturito is concerned
Freak0zoid
That is indeed the only response I can muster
CyrusPendragon
jonhamsandwich11
@op https://www.wlwt.com/amp/article/fluke-skywalker-john-stevens-arrested-child-pornography/44592470
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
if i had a nickel for ever imurgian who ive had conversations with that turned out to be a pedo i would have two nickels. witch isnt a lot but its surprising that its happened twice. @iseenipple
MyDixyRect
What happened with that person you tagged?
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
fun little game where you tagged them when you found a nipple in a post. nipple of any kind or species. they kept trying to bait an underage girl into private chatting and the account was deleted. we had @iseenippleswithoutkids for some time after that
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
not full conversations, but still
Snooj
You probably have a lot more nickels that you don't know about yet.
onlyhalfghost
I'd have at least 15 cents, if the times I hit the report button back when I browsed Usersub Newest counted.
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
back when imgur forced you to start the website in the usersubs and you would see the most fucked up shit from time to time. deleted my account and quit using the website for like 4 years
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
InnocentValley
Diving into that pile of nickels... So many users are just lurking, only the famous ones we remember.
shinagami091
This is akin to finding out Jared from Subway is a pedophile. He seemed like a likable guy but boy were we wrong.
MastahPetah
I knew people who worked at Subway the day he was arrested. Apparently they closed shop and removed literally everything with his name or likeness on it. I had been working there just a year and a half earlier, almost makes me wish I was there for that
Lostarchitorture
As Fogle gained fame, people who knew him warned Subway of his past with those same problems. But the money from the successful ad campaign was too good to drop him. There was a reason a 400+ man with no job, stuck in an apartment still had money to buy 2 sub meals a day for over a year......
thotterpop
I'm not seeing the connection. Was subway giving him free subs when he was 400+pounds? Or are you implying he sold child porn?
FireSolvesProblems
I swear the more someone is publicly seen as a good person the more likely they are to be a bastard.
itrytoonlysaypositivethings
I think the more public a person is, the more scrutinized their actions become. There are a look of good people, but they don't seek fame, so you don't hear about them.
TheMadOnion
Honestly with the sheer number of rich people and celebrities getting caught for this it just makes me think this is actually far more common then most people ever imagined unfortunately.
Targe0
Sadly it is, it's not a small number of people. That's the issue, there's thousands of them who have been caught, so logic would suggest there's far more who haven't been and even more who haven't begun yet.
Carl99
Study i saw from here in the UK put the rate at 1 in 20 children are abused at some point. Even allowing for some abusers abusing multiple children it probably still works out that around 1 in a 100 adults have engaged in it. Throw in people who only look at the results and it could be a few times more than that. For the US it works out at about 3.5 million abusers and several times that as strictly consumers.
sevenfingerman
Upvote cause fuck this guy. We aren’t cops, we won’t cover up the evil shit that our own do. We expose it and expel them.
boobafette
with ya, and i wont defend the good he has done
lapus
I hate that this negates it. It does tho, his intentions were not sincere.
UncleVenoM
Finally some folks talking sense where so many other imgurians across other parts are scrambling to defend him. Let the court decide.
DanielWhiffin
This post was necessary. We have standards, we have a code. We cannot call out others who fail to meet that code, and ignore our own who fail the same test.
Mec26
We are only clean if we tak eout our own trash. It was great while it lasted, but if convicted, he can’t be welcome here ever again.
ineverlikedthatdrstupid
Yep, "if the truth can burn it, let it burn"
Filanwizard
Have to let the evidence wheel of misfortune turn, even if it will stop on someone you trusted.
youremindmeofthebae
true dat brutha
DarkSock
PinkEater
ilovebigmutts
Idolizing any person is folly.
sylkysmooth
Humans are fallacious things. Full of hope, resistant to learn from history if it goes against their hopes, open to folly. Everyone knows idolizing a person is folly, at least if willing to see flaws as they are and not simply as more ways that person is a winner, anyway, yet people will still do it. They'll let themselves feel good about someone that's seemingly a good person, does good work, helps people, promotes goodness, they'll idolize them then be burnt from the fall again and again.
EmanNiemThcin
I don't know what you're being downvoted for, people are fallible, more so when we feed their egos. For some this not an issue, for many others it very much is, as a general rule your approach is much safer.
ilovebigmutts
Down votes, who gives a rats ass...
DarkSock
That's what my hero always said. His name? Albert Einstein.
TheMadOnion
I mean I don't really idolize anybody, I think highly of people but never idolize.
verganas
Jumping to crucify someone without an actual conviction is the same. he most likely did it but to be fair people need to wait for an actual conviction to "judge"
YertIeTheTurtle
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
Or concept
InfernoChicken
Damn! I spoke to him on Reddit the other week saying how great his work was and to keep it up. I feel a fool
Emuc64
1. Nothing wrong with supporting charitable work. 2. No reason why you should feel like a fool, because no one here knew. It wasn't as if you ignored any warning signs. Anyways, don't feel bad about yourself.
IsolatedAsshole
Don't feel bad for yourself. You had no way of knowing. None of us did. I thought he was a good guy too. This really sucks.
ItsActuallyDavidNow
Charges. Innocent until proven guilty… but fuck, man. This one hurts.
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
Do you say this on posts regarding priests getting arrested? Or only for people you like
ItsActuallyDavidNow
If I have no strong feelings towards a post I don’t say anything.
demoncatmara
Innocent until proven guilty should apply to priests too, wether one likes them or not. Not all priests are pedophiles, same as not all cops are into domestic violence (60% are, or was it 40%, one of the two - I'm not a huge fan of cops to put it mildly)
XeononSolomon
40% reported with emphasis on the reported part.
SirSexcellence
Oh no. Not a fan of cosplay or anything but seeing this guy all over this site and the good work he’s done for kids - prob to get close to them? Faith in Humanity Meter back to zero..
Mockingbirb
Mine is at -100 now
JStengah
Disappointment is a fair reaction. Just remember to be disappointed in him for what he did, not in you for letting yourself believe in someone who ultimately let you down.
SirSexcellence
Yes, I aim my disappointment squarely at Child Porn Skywalker, not myself.
L00kH4rd3r2718
You're at zero? My faith meter has been in the negative regarding humanity for a couple decades now. Lol ;-)
putcleverusernamehere
Seriously. Zero would be a dramatic improvement
ButteryBiscuitBass
It erodes trust.
Rodenbeard
I'll prob get downvoted for this, and fuck this guy for being so awful and committing these crimes, but it feels wrong to assume he only engaged in charity to get to the kids. He seems too genuine even with adults or adults with disabilities for me to believe it was a total scapegoat. People, even horrible folks like this, are complex and have their own internal maze of reasoning for what they do. I just, idk, it seems reductive, I guess in a "bad people can do good things and vice versa" way.
dangermess
Most pedophiles I know of were GREAT guys, so friendly, so giving to the community, so wonderful with kids! Media portrayal of pedophiles has been completely wrong, look them up. I do wonder if some of them do a lot of charitable activity in order to try and absolve themselves of the guilt from what they've done.
Rodenbeard
Maybe it's just the leftoever "wanting to believe the good guy he seemed to be", idk. This shit fucking blows and you might be right. I'm just tired of everything being fucking garbage.
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Hashbrown123
The biggest problem is that they have been so vilified that proper studies have trouble because they are so afraid of coming forward.
Rodenbeard
Definitely also the case. It's total shit that there's no safe way for those with the issue to seek help without feeling like they're going to be reported to the police. The stigmatization of those that haven't acted on their urges in any way needs to end.
xovoxovox
At this point I'm suspicious of even the nicest of people. Jared Fogle, Jimmy Saville, Bill Cosby, etc. I'd suspect Tom Hanks has Betty White chained to a radiator in his basement or something. It's like we're all secretly demons a scant few millimeters below our skin.
Drachenomics
Goes to show, you don't know people. You think you do, because they're actors, singers, internet personalities and they let you into their lives a bit so you feel a connection. In reality it's only moments in time. The rest of the day in private, they can be very different.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
We are. The society has evolved far faster than the ape that makes it up.
Ex2bot
After Cosby, I realized you just can’t know unless you know them personally. And even then sometimes …
thekittiesbeans
Exactly because entitled narcissistic styled people can be very charming, and hard to tell from people who are genuinely charming and authentic. They tend to be very careful and selective of who they victimise, so their victims appear unbelievable.
SlipperyJohn1
As long as it's not Keanu Reeves I still have a little faith.
Muffyns
No hope in humanity if he ends up on not a drag queen
thedarkcanuck
We all know that Betty would be the one with Tom tied up
certainlynotaserialkiller
pretty sure betty would be into that.
ath1337e
I'd try to have an "innocent until proven guilty" mindset here. He was charged, not convicted.
kodiak931155
Thus us i.portant. I work in the ourt system and have seen "the defendent had child porn on his phone" turn into "the defendents lawyer would like to show a video of the defendents Ex putting child porn on the defedents phone" that said.... MOST of the time its exactly what it appears to be. So wait for due diligence but its probably gonna be bad.
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hippocampus
Let's hope he was just a consumer. Not that this is a good thing, it's still disgusting and disappointing. But it would be good to know if this didn't spill over into his charity work.
ayeseaturtles
Oh my gosh. How awful!
PapaUbu
This isn't the same guy that's posted on here all the time is it? The one Hamill tweeted looked more like him than he did????
FullMetalJackass
NOooooo
fractalsphere
Yeah it is, unfortunately.
WarlockSniper
Yes. And I even gifted stuff to the charity he was involved with. At least the stuff went to the kids but... yeah. Still need time for that
Dissipo
This news makes some of his post creepy now
Over400
They always were, imo.
Peteybird1112
WHAAAAATTTT NOOO. Also fuck that guy completely dead to me
Iblamemyparents
I asked that very question on another post and I was down voted...sheesh
unluckyandbored
Yeah that's him. What a piece of shit he turned out to be.
onlyhalfghost
yes, it's the formerly-one-of-us Fluke Skywalker. Second imgur celebrity to turn out pedo, after ISeeNipple.
HelpfulCorn
I don't like those odds
JimFromMarketing
Statistically I believe the percentage of pedos in society are about... Four percent? How's many users are on here? What's four percent of that
AnythingMuchShorter
To be fair, it's charges. We should neither assume they aren't true because we liked him, or assume they are true because he's accused. Though it's very sad that it may be true.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
Its pretty hard to bring a case this far without rampant evidence.
brittSparkleLord
This is fair but it's worth noting that there has to be evidence to charge for something like this. It's not like where someone is accused, it's usually cyber units who find a cash of photos
AnythingMuchShorter
Yeah, it looks bad, but they hold an actual trial for a good reason. I'm not saying I think he's not guilty, I'm saying I don't know.
Yogsothott
Its true. https://www.citybeat.com/news/fluke-skywalker-faces-child-pornography-charges-what-we-know-15647686
BulletproofMarmalade
Sounds like they found images and videos on his phone and have evidence of him trying pass them on, pretty damning in the court of public opinion if not the court of law
TiddyMcGillicuddy
They found CP on his phone, bro.
Yogsothott
It's true https://www.citybeat.com/news/fluke-skywalker-faces-child-pornography-charges-what-we-know-15647686
737jadzpjh9
While that’s true, this comment is never present on any of the other posts.
thetonestarr
Eh I've posted similar things on several of the other posts. Though this guy said it better than I.
Marikhen
It might be, just in the "bad replies" section because people don't want to hear it and downvote it.
Draciusen
Very true, but I feel it's reasonable to be a little more shocked at a supposed wholesome and charitable cosplayer doing this than say, a cop/priest with strong MAGA ties. Is the bias real? Certainly. Is it strange? Not really. Throw them all to the wolves if convicted, regardless.
MarredWoodWithNails
Yes! Of course one needs to support the accuser, but also... it's awful to just jump on and ruin people's lives over every accusation. Believe the accuser and treat them accordingly, but remember that the accused is innocent until proven guilty. People can be shitty and there are plenty of reasons, personal/financial/etc., one might accuse an innocent person. ––>
westPAguy
Well, this comment aged poorly.
CraftyGiant
The evidence anounced to the public so far nails his ass to the wall, and we are not a court of law, he's guilty AF.
MarredWoodWithNails
––> I remember in junior high school, one girl started a rumour that a teacher was a pedo, and everyone got swept up in it. It wasn't true; just some people didn't like him, and making up gossip was a good way to gain popularity. Hell, if I didn't like my local mayor, I could accuse him of awful things to try to get him out of office, and maybe other people who didn't like him would use that as a jumping point to share their own falsified stories for their political motivations.
demoncatmara
A girl accused a teacher at my school of being a pedo, he was never fired so I assume he was innocent, I also assume he was innocent because she was one of the nastiest people I've ever known and helped frame someone at my workplace for robbery years later (they were not charged with robbery as the cameras proved they didn't do it)
CrimeBrulee
Yeah, but they found 3 vids and 5 images on his cell phone. So......
MarredWoodWithNails
Aye, that's pretty solid. Even that is worth looking into other possibilities, though, no matter how small a chance it might be. Did someone else use his phone? Did his phone pick up a virus that deposited it there? ( it happens... https://www.syracuse.com/have-you-heard/2009/11/could_a_computer_virus_frame_y.html ) Does he have an app that automatically downloads pics that others send (like WhatsApp)? Long shots? Maybe. But possible? Yeah. So he's innocent until it's all ruled out.
TripUpStairs
Omg noooooo
PineappleLoopsBroether
Yeah without the costume/hair he has a really menacing face …
TomahawkJackson
x1xruex1x
Wait, do you mean flukeskywalker on imgur???
Targe0
Yes it's the same guy by all reports.
x1xruex1x
Found out it is him. Jfc what the hell. It causes such a tear. On one hand a guy possessing child porn and on the other a guy that was doing good to help those in need. How the hell did that happen.
JustJoshinya9001
Holy Fuck, man… I’ve been seeing Fluke Skywalker posts for years and he always seemed such a good guy. Reading this is disappointing beyond words. But if he’s guilty, lock em up. No exceptions.
Targe0
They always do seem like a "Good Guy" that's how they attract their victiums.
TheMadOnion
Man I've had conversations with this man.
Targe0
Well you won't be for a long time cause the case seems lock soild, he's going away for a long time.
Tomadzo
Yeah. This one hurts a LOT. I’m still trying to process it. BTW, did the cops shave him? WTF with that booking photo?
iLynux
I'm guessing the Luke hair was a wig. A pretty damn good one.
iLynux
Holy shit it wasn't a wig. He shaved the front of his hair??
CrimeBrulee
The cops wouldn't have shaved him. Also he didn't shave the back of his head: https://local12.com/news/local/fluke-skywalker-arraigned-child-pornography-charges-pon-luke-star-wars-pandering-sexually-oriented-material-john-stevens-images-video-cincinnati
beerlady
Holy shit....
CrimeBrulee
Right!? I mean he woulda known it was coming, they would have got a warrant for his phone and seized it. Probably had a breakdown knowing he was caught.
Targe0
Frankly if they get to that point they already have enough evidecen to nab him. Getting the phone is basically just a formality at that point.
RowanUnderwood
You notice how when you're on a left leaning site nobody jumps to defend some random sicko just because he was previously one of our heroes? Yea.
SkittishLittleToaster
We need to keep in mind that it's ok to have degrees of acceptance, and all that comes with that. He's been arrested and charged, not proven guilty. It's uncomfortable to not have solidified an opinion yet, but it's healthier than rushing to judgement.
AdamGenesis
Republican or Democrat ... straight to prison. I'm just disappointed that he chose this path. I wouldn't defend him.
cardinal29
Here ya go, in a nutshell:
UncleVenoM
A ton of people are though - but as a left leaning site we can have a discourse and tell them why they're wrong to and hopefully correct the behavior. That doesn't happen on truth social.
sendbobsandvageneiguess
Non religious a-fucking-men
TheMadOnion
I noticed that too. Of course I'm mostly just disappointed. But like you said we ain't leaping to defend him.
positiveleroy
There’s still a LOT of users here who are stuck at stage 1 of processing this and ignoring the fact they don’t typically arrest you or bring child pornography charges unless they’ve got a pretty solid case.
AlmightyElephant
One can HOPE that it's bullshit without expecting anything. I'd like to believe it's not true because he seemed like a cool dude and if it's not true then like, them kids is fine. But yeah, plenty of child abusers get taken to court and still get away with it, so you'd think the case would be pretty solid at this point. I guess we'll see.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Unfortunately, one must agree. There are some cases where heavy charges were bs (I have a famous one in mind here in France: Outreau), but the sad reality is that the actual crimes are SO frequent that this level of investigation is pretty much a condemnation already, at the very least on some level. I used to feel genuine love for the guy and this makes me sick. I would say "such is life", but "life" is only such because of fuckers like that. Disgusting.
thekittiesbeans
I knew a guy who was creepy, he liked teens and women with teen-like stature. So he was accused by some girls who were abused, it wasn’t him but someone he worked with. They found some images on his phone but they weren’t admissible, he didn’t actively put them there. Because he was a creepy dude he was an easy target. He wasn’t into kids, but police don’t make that distinction, they just want a win. So that’s how people can be stuck, and think maybe he’s a creep not a pedo.
pintDMG
No, there's just the sudden change of tune to "innocent until proven guilty" and "cops are kinda good, actually" that you wouldn't see on any other post like this, plus a whole lot of denial. Sure, no mental gymnastics to justify the crimes, but there sure as shit are a lot of hypocrites here, too.
TaiPan87
I don't know if I would call it hypocrisy. If Jared Kushner was charged with CP today I think we would say "fuck him, he sucked anyway", because we already hated him. Its simply tragic when we see someone that did awesome stuff turns out to have, well, a dark side. Thats not hypocrisy, that's sadness.
echoawoo
Catching one bad guy doesn't make up for all the rights violations, the murders, the abuse of power or thin blue line.
XeononSolomon
I do stick to the innocent until proven guilty but that's due to be accused of knocking up my neighbour growing up. It wasn't until the mother also got pregnant that the truth came out that the daughter had a bf that knocked up both her and her mother. But with that said the evidence is pretty damning.
DarkRedCape
When it first started appearing here there were some who were defending him. Now that it’s become clearer what he’s been accused of, they’ve all gone silent.
sylkysmooth
I was around when it first came out, I didn't see anyone defending him. I saw some saying they hope it wasn't true and were going to withhold judgement until everything was in the open, but I didn't see anyone actually going to bat for the guy. I did see some people saying what you said, yet I went through the comment sections and didn't see any defense. I fully admit I may have missed a few, yet I don't feel I have. I wanted to see who would defend this sorta thing on so many charges.
DarkRedCape
It wasn’t many. There were a few who were saying it was a misunderstanding because of the way Ohio words such crimes. Pandering obscenity was one term, which I agree is an odd term, but it’s still easy to understand.
brobinson2001
That was solely because the first instance of the article was lacking any meaningful details. Then, the news station updated at 11p ET to include the full charges of CP. Pandering obscenity is vague enough that a pro-LGBTQ+ book counts for a Rapeublikkkunt
080080
yeah, there's a huge difference between saying "aw shit, not him too!" and "i don't care how many younglings he's ligtsabered, he's MY luke skywalker!".
ballsoutflyer
If he's found not guilty, he's going to have this follow him around for years. If he is found guilty...
Targe0
Yeah he's going to be found guilty, he had videos and photos on his phone by the reports. The scum bag has no way out of it.
HelpTheWretched
Yeeeah, I know someone (the partner of a friend) who was falsely accused of sex acts with a minor (she actually reported somebody else for attempting to doing so, and they retaliated), got acquitted on all charges, slam dunk case, but several years later she's still picking up the pieces. :/
AlGoonie
"The psychologists state that the fantasy fuels the behavior in this case, the defendant has pornographic images involving adult men and very young female children on his phone," he said. https://local12.com/news/local/fluke-skywalker-arraigned-child-pornography-charges-pon-luke-star-wars-pandering-sexually-oriented-material-john-stevens-images-video-cincinnati#
BulletproofMarmalade
Yeah that seems pretty slam dunk..
MassiveMaoMao
Christ, it’s @ISeeNipple all over again.
in70x
I was gone for that.. what happened?
hippocampus
I think @Catgirlsandkneesocks also was problematic. I don't remember what it was though.
CrimeBrulee
What, Noooo I loved that guy
disposabledom
littlecoatfatguy
I don’t know that one.
thevortexmaster
I remember him. Thought it was a weird profile to begin with
MassiveMaoMao
Another prominent Imgur user who got caught trying to seduce minors. It was like 6-ish years ago.
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
/a/niPRH
putcleverusernamehere
Yikes
KeetSqueet
Cheers for keeping the link alive. I wish they didn't remove the larger post, but I can understand why.
IsolatedAsshole
Well that was a fucking gross read...
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
oof
iLynux
littlecoatfatguy
Blurgh.
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
Yeah it is no bueno
TheMadOnion
Bruh haha
WoeToHice
So that's how it went down. I never saw the details. Ew.
WillemHellfire
I wish I hadn't clicked this.
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
Hard same
Peteybird1112
Damn yea I remember this bullshit. Fuckin dipshit creep
drduffer
Without judgement, there are several (5-6) programs of recovery for men and women for love, sex, and porn addictions, even illegal porn addictions, available in the US and around the world. Not every pedophile is an addict, but many are and can be helped before they enter into the legal system. There are also therapists and physicians who specialize in this area. Please get help if you think you need it. This isn’t the first time this has come up on Imgur.
Jasonreissue
nah mate. these sorts of people destroy lives. it’s an active choice. my best friends life was ruined by these people. fuck him. it’s child abuse and it’s cruel. fuck this guy. he deserves the worst punishment.
PectorialMuscles
You're saying a sexuality is wrong. And yes, in this case it is the worst kind of wrong, but they can't help it. Some people are wired differently and we can't simply punish them for existing like what happens to LGBTQ. It's not the same. Pedophiles who try their best need help, not punishment. Eliminating the help proves to them that they have nowhere to go and eventually they WILL act and actually hurt someone. They're not bad people, they're malfunctioning.
PectorialMuscles
And again, in case anyone has poor reading comprehension, I am stating that LIKE LGBTQ people, pedophilia is something that shouldn't be punished simply for existing at all. But unlike LGBTQ, pedophilia SHOULD be cured or treated via therapy and other help in ALL cases. It's like a curse that can only be mitigated. So, to clarify again again: lgbtq good, pedo bad.
jonhamsandwich11
I have a deep respect for your positive take here
Nobody7713
That's true. Our actions define us, not our impulses. If someone hasn't done anything yet, they should be able to access help without any judgment, stigmatizing seeking help makes people less likely to do it.
LooseyMongoosey
Even if someone *has* done something, they should be able to seek and find help. Unless you’re of the mind that a person can become irredeemable and incapable of change.
Nobody7713
You're right, but once someone has done something there also needs to be precautions taken to prevent them from doing it again immediately. Change takes time and kids need to be protected right away.
DrMarioSThompson
I have a friend who turned out to be collecting child porn. The court determined he never acted in person on his impulses, just downloaded the material. CP is a horrible crime, but he was sentenced as a sick man who needed help and not as a sexual predator. After time in prison he is in counselling, is not allowed near children, but still has his mechanic job and is trying to build as normal a life as he can. This is so complex and I hope this guy gets help in and after prison, too
quzar
I really appreciate this. I've tried to raise it in the past and been called a pedo for it. The first hope should always be to be able to help these people to safely be members of society.
ThisGuyHere
Years ago, I was able to talk very honestly with a man who suffered from some extreme porn addiction. He even admitted to seeking child porn out specifically. He said it never once crossed over into "the real world". Like he never thought of or looked at kids in a lustful or inappropriate way, but that the porn existing meant he wanted to see it. It wasn't "real" and he disconnected it from reality. He was interesting and uncomfortable to talk to. I think he's since found help.
DasSpasseste
And if you're not American, there are initiatives all over the world where someone with those kind of thoughts can talk to and get therapy from! Please, don't let your feeling of being isolated, sick and alone get the best of you and allow you to ruin everything and a child's life as well! Talk to your doctor, please! You don't deserve to be living a hellish life! Get help, you deserve it !!!!! We all do !
m0problems
I don't think this is true in the US... pretty sure any therapist or psychologist is required to call the police if they even suspect someone might be a pedophile.
Kaysmira
I believe it varies by state, because damn near everything does. It definitely is required by some states. On one hand, yeah, if we can prevent a child from being hurt and/or scared for life, we should. On the other hand, if someone can recognize that they pose a risk to others and seek help with not posing a risk, I'd like that better than them hiding it until they embrace it and go hurting people, especially children. If we can prevent child abuse in a variety of ways, that'd be great.
KitteyWolf
Only if they believe they have access to children and are a danger. if you're a single person who doesnt have any younger siblings or family close you're less likely to get the cops called on you
m0problems
Based on everything I've read it's the opposite... single people without children are most likely to be accused, justifiably or not.
drduffer
The requirement is for suspicion of active/ ongoing abuse for a specific child or children. By itself, being sexually attracted to children is not a crime.
Feralkyn
That's only if they suspect a crime, I think. As in, actual possession, abuse, etc. I think the comment above is directed at people suffering from an attraction to minors but who hasn't acted on it?
m0problems
Maybe, but who is going to split hairs like that? There are many reasons to report someone and no real incentive not to.
ebonyfaery
Everyone in law enforcement has to split hairs like that. There's a difference between paedophilia and child molestation.
m0problems
Yes, but at the point where you're already in a jail cell, that isn't much comfort. Sure, you'll most likely be acquitted (although it's not guaranteed - people are wrongfully convicted on a regular basis), but your life is already ruined (even more ruined?).
Feralkyn
You're missing the point there--the person commenting is literally saying "if you feel this way, there are resources for help," which there are.
m0problems
There may theoretically be resources, but they're unlikely to be utilized in practice.
AsAHistorian
Like with a lot of things, if there's someone who recognizes that they have a problem, hasn't acted on it, and wants/needs help to keep from hurting themselves and others, we should support that person. They've already got a shit situation; we don't need to make it worse, and if we can make it better, we should. If you feel otherwise, maybe being part of a community isn't for you.
m0problems
I'm not saying it *should* be that way (although even if you're attracted to children I don't think it should be that hard to not molest children. I've been single for 30+ years and never raped or assaulted a woman. If anything, I feel like it would be even easier to avoid assaulting a child.) But regardless I don't think there are really any reasonably accessible resources of the sort you're describing for the average person.
jonhamsandwich11
He was one of us. This one hurts and pisses me off the most
PutItInNeutral
He seemed like such a good guy, I always automatically upvoted his posts. This sucks.
CorrugatedUrethra1995
No community is free of monsters. It's how the community responds to monsters that makes the difference.
Gryphonosiris
Indeed, unlike the GOP who embraces and defends their monsters while claiming that they: 1) didn't do it, 2) it's not so bad because everyone does it; at the same time.
quackersforcrackers
It really does. I told my kids about what a special thing he was doing. I was proud to support him. I feel let down like I enabled him
Imapseudonym
You didn't. Enabling requires knowledge. You supported an apparently good man and once you found out he wasn't, you stopped supporting him. That's the opposite of enabling.
quackersforcrackers
Very true. Thanks for the kind words :-)
Imapseudonym
Welcome. It's easy to blame ourselves for not seeing what was hidden. Doesn't mean it's our fault.
trojaSpaceBandit
Turns out he was never one of us
RandAIFlagg
Yea. I'm so deeply disappointed. I thought so well of him. I live nearby and I've promoted his events. I thought he was one of the good guys.
RandAIFlagg
to be clear, not professionally promoted, I just mean I've raised awareness and sent people to his events
lapus
As simple as this is, it was hard for me to put into words. Thank you.
RequineCounts
1. This is reality. The monsters look and act just like everyone else. 2. This is why we need to believe victims regardless of preconceived ideas of a person. 3. This is why to women it IS "all men"
BellsTheorem
Brush them off like a cockroach crawling on your leg. A pedo is a pedo. Fuckem'
ViscousCousCous
unfollowed.
Whosandwhatsit
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FlyingButtPliers
Was Razor1000 a similar situation?
UncleVenoM
He was a user on a website, nothing more
highisophotography
This pretty much sums it up… he was one of us… this is personal now and it hurts. I’ve been following him for years and love all the work he’s done for the community and now I just feel so betrayed 😞😞😞
youareagreatguybut
There's no "us".
putcleverusernamehere
Ya. Imgur is the extent of my social media and I read this with a heavy heart. Actually traded a couple quick comments with him
Dooknugget
Same. Felt like I was talking to a celeb. My family has also had to utilize Ronald McDonald house and we spent months in and out of children's hospitals. So his deeds hit home.
messedabout
One of yours. Not us
jamsplodge
What do you mean? He was an imgurian... therefore one of us
messedabout
Again, one of you. Your community your people. Well I’d rather not be associated with pedos. It’s all yours friend
jamsplodge
You're an idiot. You're on Imgur. You're commenting. You're an Imgurian. As was he, hence the "us" association. You don't need to protest so much, nobody is accusing you of being a pedo by association.
messedabout
Again, not with me. Nor am I a self proclaimed imgurian. An idiot? Sure thing, an imgurian community member? Naa thanks
HamburgerWelper
He’s a sovereign citizen maaaan. Maintaining an account on a community website and actively participating in that community doesn’t mean he has to accept the definition of community membership when it’s inconvenient for him maaaaaan.
ConfederacyOfDunces
I'm starting to have some suspicion....
eggmuffin
Dude's been charged. That's all we know so far.
Yogsothott
No, we know he had CSA images and videos on his phone. I know you don't like it but keeping your head in the sand isn't honoring or supporting the victims.
PorneliusHubertII
@iseenipple. Not the first time one of ours has gone sour
TwiceK
We can keep the spirit of the good things alive, but this man is rightfully being condemned by the community.
workshop777
Agreed... this fucking blows. Fuck him.
tuxedobob
One of you, maybe.
MrFuzzyBlumpkin
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
That is 100% not what that quote means
demoncatmara
I'm sure most of us, no matter how long we live, aren't going to become a pedophile
Ryebread91
It's iseenipple all over again. :(
bananaflavoredcandyishorrible
Did they do something similar?
Ryebread91
Their actions are the same and the reason @ISeeNippleWithoutLittleKids exists
demoncatmara
They were hitting on a 13 year old on here a few years back, saw pics of their messages to her, it was fucked up
Deathtospam
Yup. This sucks.
JoeT85
Clearly he wasn't one of us. You can be weird and have your kinks but there are things you don't do. The fact that he did, makes him NOT one of us.
chufly
This is extremely upsetting. thought he was a good guy
tomharringtonair1
You know who's really hurt by this? The fucken kids.
iDrawStuff
He was never one of us. One of us would not do what he's done.
iDrawStuff
Fuck the enablers downvoting me. Just, fuck you.
CorrugatedUrethra1995
If anything, refusing to accept that predators can exist within your group is what enables predators to exist in your group.
graceinsheepsclothing
This
highisophotography
Not downvoting, but someone pointed this out on a similar response in this thread, and I just want to share in my own words. You’re allowed to be hurt, but it’s important to accept that someone WAS one of us… but has betrayed that trust. The charities he promoted and the kids that lit up when he walked into a room should not have to suffer for his poor choices.
iDrawStuff
No - he was using Imgur as a cover to build an image of him as an okay guy, which you've apparently bought into. And you being an apologist and justifying it enables that sort of behavior. Fucking disgusting.
messedabout
Always suspect the dogooders, there is always a motive with their ‘helping’. Past or present.
putcleverusernamehere
narniasreal
EmotionallyCrippled
That’s the second pedo imgurian. Damn
pd8bq
I bet there are more than 2. A lot of sick fucks in this world..
flyingmonkeystick
Who was the first?
FabulouslyTiti
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/79170i/whats_with_imgur_and_iseenipple/ Name and context.
kepattRunner
Oof, gross
EmotionallyCrippled
I thought it was razor…now I’m not sure
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
He was never one of us, because of the child porn.
putcleverusernamehere
This
sendbobsandvageneiguess
He has kids of his own...
sendbobsandvageneiguess
Theres posts he did with "his favorite son" going to a The Who concert about a year ago. I'm trying not to look too hard. This shit fucked me up
iamgnat
He made us believe that he was an exceptionally good person and one of us. You are correct that he never was one of us, but a lot of people believed it because he had a really good mask in place.😡
LuminoZero
Do you KNOW that his acts of charity were done with malicious intent? Do you KNOW that he used them to abuse children? He was arrested for 8 counts of possession, not a single count of molestation, abuse, sexual assault or rape. It's entirely possible he was honestly a generous person but still committed the crime of possession. People are not 100% good or 100% bad, they can be both at once.
ebonyfaery
Did you read any of the source material? He's also being investigated for grooming.
LuminoZero
Source?
iamgnat
I didn't say any of that. I said he put on an act to make us believe he was a good person. That is what is clear with the evidence we have available.
LuminoZero
So all of the charity work he did is instantly invalidated? The people he made smile and helped are now completely irrelevant? People are complicated, resist the urge to divide people into "Good' or "Bad" groups. People do Good and Bad things, it's the actions we should condemn, not the people. FYI: "Good people only do good" is the exact same logic that Evangelicals use to excuse their insane bullshit, so take caution when you think like that.
XeononSolomon
You don't deserve the down votes. Life isn't black and white and people can do both good things and bad things and the good things can still be looked on positively despite the bad stuff that person also did.
LuminoZero
I appreciate that some people here are willing to address the grey that makes up life. It's still disappointing that somebody who did so much good also wound up doing something so vile.
JackieDaytonaRealHumanBartender
Possession of child pornography kinda makes somebody 100% bad in my book. Idk what good they've done at that point, they've done one of the worst bads.
MagicAndDuctTape
Defending someone because he only possessed child porn is really not the defence you may think it is
LuminoZero
I'm not defending his actions, though I know Imgur loves to make things black and white so they don't have to think hard, I'm asking if his crimes invalidate all of the legitimate good he's done. Do we write off all the legitimate help he's given people because of this? Is he now 100% pure evil, should be executed in the town square?
CouldntCakeLess
Wait, is this legit?
NotACanadian
Going through the 5 stages of grief rn
cosonfused
it is. it would be a sick joke to make.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
The arrest is real. The charges, well hes being basically charged with grooming, and it's Ohio
CrimeBrulee
The found 3 CSA videos and 5 CSA images on his phone.
TheMightyElk
Csa?
CrimeBrulee
"Child sex abuse" abbreviation
PMP22
*Reads millions of things in a week from bad shit that happened all over the world* *Reads one bad thing that happened in Ohio* " Oooooooh typical OHIO, amirite, guys??? 😆😆😆
afterdarkart
Guys we found the Ohio Resident. (The one that didn't become an Astronaut weirdly enough).
PMP22
Finders keepers ;) I'm concerned at how much people disliked my comment lol
JackieTreehornProductions
I'm from Ohio - 51% shitbags, 48% trying to flee, 1% hoping KY does something to make it look good.
PMP22
Been long enough yet?