TheRedMyth
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Nov 29, 2016 1:23 AM
TheRedMyth
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HotSkittyonWailordAction
Ah yes, "here let me destroy this birds population for you, hahahaha"
FredGarvinMaleProstitute
that bird had a family and they will never get over this.
klamklanger
Kitteh loves you!
EmpressNikki
Prepare this for me pitiful hooman. Perhaps I shall leave you the bones!
catfish08
Yeah fuck this post. It's great to see native animals getting killed due to irresponsible owners...
supermonke
OMG... That looks exactly like my cat.
LutraLazuli
lets see, my moms cat brought home moles, voles, bats, birds, mice(always half eaten, always) bunnies, squirrels, chipmunks, and a ferret.
darvint
You should train it to get you Pizza @OP
Todayiswensday
That derp face!
CantRunWorthaDamnKenyan
This is why I'm a cat person.
thisisagoldfish
Mmm tastes like avian flu
KyleR237
All my cat kills is paper and those booties you put over your shoes at a open house.
cantsaythatido
Fangs!
Sakoray
now you have to eat it..
Tkeleth
Eat the cat to establish dominance.
boorek
cute killer http://2static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Since+cats+are+the+most+invasive+species+and+there+are+_dca423a8e65e5601290409d86d6515a7.jpg
NotHardly
Cats are pretty sure humans are dumb kittens... can't hunt, won't hunt, and then, does not know what to eat. (from a note my cat left me)
marvster
If you HAVE to let your cat roam, put a bell on it so he's not devastating wildlife populations. It's not cute.
Falanxzealot
Well, when you have some substantiable numbers to support that widely held and factually incorrect assertion, get back to us.
tbow
Tiiimmmaayy
Awh your kitty made a friend!
StickyTheaterRat
HURRY UP AND LET ME IN!! This thing tastes like crap, I need to gently rest it on your pillow ASAP!
ForensicsHound
He's so proud.
LannistersSendTheirRetards
Did u just assume its gender
GiantCircumcisedElephantPenisInsideOfAnOrangutang
My dad has never been as proud of me as that cat is right now
hunkamunka
Thanks asshole.
TJLaserShepard
He doesn't think you can fend for yourself
Flyndaran
Why do so many believe that absurd myth? It gets tiring.
Silvermanblue
You're a shitty hunter, cat probably
chrisdafish
A hoonter must hoont
TJLaserShepard
Cat, definitely
Damoel
He looks so concerned as to whether or not you will like his gift!
Dmacc4
Know that look! Mine will leave birds/mice etc. on our pillows to show off.
dinglehopper5440
He needs scritches!
HAupvote
do..do you like it? I mean if you don't thats okay you can always return it at the mall.
TheFirstPower
"The sacrifice is not worthy?"
SsertsimfoCigam
He is asking you to the cat prom and he couldn't remember if sparrows or finches were your favorite.
Damoel
I love this comment.
BadgerSims
Can we not try make cats killing wildlife a cute thing? It's bloody irresponsible pet ownership.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Seriously.
Gymfootballrepeat
??
g00s3
Humans are wild animals, therefore so are cats even when they are somebodies pet. So how is this different to a Lion eating a Gazelle?
BadgerSims
Introduced species, it's is a containable pet not wild.. lots of reasons, but you could justify too many terrible things with that logic
g00s3
I justify everything by that logic
BadgerSims
Sure but it's entirely unrealistic. Say if you want to avoid the collapse of an ecosystem, there are realities of introduced pest species
g00s3
Humans are Animals. The internet = Anthills. It's nothing but realistic
g00s3
Also, if we didn't live in cities then they'd all be forest, wild cats would live in the forests and the birds would die.
Falanxzealot
Can we try to remember to that cat, you are a family member who doesn't hunt, and your house and cat are where a wild cat used to live?
BadgerSims
As in house cats are filling a biological predator gap that humans have created? Because that is not the case in a clear majority of places
Falanxzealot
1.) The clear majority? Seeing as we colonised all the wildcat territories and killed most of them off, as can be seen by the remainder
Falanxzealot
3.) some numbers to support the frankly preposterous 'majority of places'.
Falanxzealot
2.) interbreeding with the cats that have followed us, and we've kept around because they primarily hunt *rodents*, I'd like you to provide
Eunoterp
I read somewhere that domestic kittehs were responsible for near decimation of some species of wild birds.
Falanxzealot
What you read is basically conjecture, with no actual methodology worth a damn. Also, completely neglecting the wildcats they've replaced.
Akreyeiu
That's cuz house cats generally dont have to hunt to survive, so when they kill it's often for sport. They've perfected boredom hunting.
Falanxzealot
Now, what other species does that sound like, that there are 7 billion of running round the planet, with tools for that job..?
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Except on islands, it's bullshit. Any numbers that people put forth are wildly inflated inferences from studies done in very specific (1/?)
Falanxzealot
1.) I'm sick of reddit-educated dicks downvoting this kind of thing. The reality is that the total cat population as house animals in almost
JohnnyLawlessEsq
conditions that aren't conducive to such extrapolation. The fact is that small birds of the type cats kill die like crazy regardless, (2/?)
Falanxzealot
2.) nation state (except North Korea) is much lower than the natural population density of the wildcats they're essentially replacing
JohnnyLawlessEsq
and any time you can point to an even remotely credible instance of extinction where cats are involved, more digging will invariably (3/?)
Falanxzealot
3.) because we fucked their habitat. Last time I checked, cats don't drive bulldozers or log for a living. The amount domestic cats kill
JohnnyLawlessEsq
show that human influence was the primary cause of the extinction, and the only influence of cats was to hasten an inevitable end. (4/?)
Falanxzealot
4.) is far below that which would be consumed had we not turned up and shit things up. But no, most biologists have no statistics in their
JohnnyLawlessEsq
On the other hand, in the case of cats introduced to islands without endemic terrestrial predators, yes, that's a huge problem.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Over 33 extinctions because of cats, yes. Terrible damage to surviving populations as well.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Please, stop spreading bullshit.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Im sorry? What bullshit are you speaking of?
Falanxzealot
Do you have any actual falsifiable data to demonstrate that, or did you read it in the Daily Mail/hear it from Andy Parsons?
ragingzealot
http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380
Falanxzealot
Not this cobblers again. The two sources in the report you quote are discredited *estimates* with no presented methodology. Try again.
Falanxzealot
Further, repeatedly insisting that replacement of wild with a *smaller number* of housecats is an anthropogenic disaster is flawed at best.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Housecats don't behave like bobcats or other wild species, at all. It is utterly ludicrous to assume that millions of domestic and feral
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
cats don't have a severe impact on populations of wild bird, mammal, and small reptile. They live and breed at high densities and take a
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
They are, in many cases, an invasive nuisance that needs to be eradicated, with all the vigor of feral swine or burmese pythons.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
wide variety of prey. There impact is of course greater in insure environments, but they do a great deal of damage even on the mainland.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
http://abcbirds.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Medina_et_al_2011-Global_review_of_invasive_cat_impacts_on_endangered_vertebrates.pdf
devlee
It's getting really old seeing people post pictures of their cats killing birds. It's not cute, it's irresponsible.
thedrunkenweevil
Agreed
kittykat
What is a person to do? Force their cat to stay indoors forever, and watch as it slowly kills the cat's soul?
leahatard
Get them a bell! That way the birds hear them coming, plus kitty gets to go outside.
devlee
Cat outweighs the importance of native bird species not dying, yes I feel it's irresponsible. (2/2)
devlee
Is it much different than forcing a naturally solitary animal to live with you? If you think the entertainment you get from owning a (1/2)
siwggityswooty
Educate me, no sarcasm... How is it irresponsible they're just doing what they instinctually do?
Falanxzealot
You'll be told they're invasive species, but given that there would be about 3 million wild cats in the UK without humans here, then, no.
likechocolateforchocolate
You see one cat killing one bird. Think bigger.
Falanxzealot
Less than ten percent of cats actively hunt, for a start. So that would be equivalent to less than 6% of the natural wildcat pop. of the UK.
pr0nty
Cats are an introduced species. They kill millions of native animals, not to survive (they get fed at home) but for fun.
Kehy
My cat pretty much just kills Starlings, an invasive, damaging species. Mind you that's because there's pretty much only starlings here now
pr0nty
Unless you have a GoPro strapped to your cat, you have no idea just how much it kills or injures when it's out of sight.
nwaw
Bingo. They're not native, they're invasive. I'm a cat lover, but mine stay in the house. That's responsible.
Falanxzealot
Yes, introduced to *human areas that destroyed the habitat and population of wild cats that lived there before*.
devlee
Do you think wild bobcats/Panthers hunt songbirds?
blitherypoop
Cats caused the extinction of the Stephens Island wren.
SauronsLeftNut
Hell if birds are stupid enough to get caught, well done cat.
blitherypoop
They lived on a remote island with no natural land predators. It's like expecting you to survive and alien attack.
recre8
Wasn't it a cat not cats plural?
blitherypoop
That's apocryphal and probably not true.
blitherypoop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephens_Island_wren
JohnnyLawlessEsq
One of the few cases with actual, credible evidence of cats being the cause of the extinction. Nearly all others are in similar cases (1/?)
Falanxzealot
Ah, I see the gormless assholes are downvoting you again. Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world without actual data to support conclusions?
Falanxzealot
Ah, I see the gormless assholes are downvoting you again. Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world without actual data to support conclusions?
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Isolated islands without endemic terrestrial predators, things like that. Stranded sailors accidentally introduce rats, rats decimate (2/?)
JohnnyLawlessEsq
bird population, some "helpful" soul introduces cats to control rats, cats kill rats, finish off the bird population. In all other (3/?)
JohnnyLawlessEsq
cases where cats are claimed as the cause of an extinction (i.e. cases not on a small, isolated island), the evidence is not nearly (4/?)