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PerpetuityPhoto
I mean, consider the author.
Ktraveller
Read hp and the methods of rationality
VanillaJester
Idk if Ron Weasley, of all people, could be expected to come out with a statement like that. He thought the satus quo was just fine, too.
Greenwaxy
The whole thing is copied from The Worst Witch series anywho.
HoneNathan
Technically more like head of the Armed forces, and police force...
Chickenbuttholeremover
All Aurors Are Bastards?
Arsikere
be the change you want to see
TheDrunkNinja
Damn you, Wizard Cops!!
rowanmc
All Aurors are Blast-ended skrewts.
Marsmallowmancer
https://youtu.be/-1iaJWSwUZs this is a great video about why this is a legitimate problem with Rowling's writing in general
IlluminaBlade
Their education system literally forces castes upon students.
RollToSaveAgainst
... They all become cops, what idiot made this? His muggle friend even becomes the top magic cop and then the magical Prime Minister
RollToSaveAgainst
People say ACAB because today's cops are heavily infested with fascists that abuse their power and drive out anyone with good intentions
RollToSaveAgainst
The fascists were with Voldemort. The magic cops just kept the status quo, which Harry and gang joined to improve the status quo itself
kingkongkeom
Artist is Martin Rosner doing Hotpaper Comics: https://www.instagram.com/martin_rosner check him out, funny stuff :)
tangybreath
All aurors are bastards. That made me chuckle
Preincarnated
Nice title.
Illithidbane
AAAA [bzzt!], ok how about AAAB [bzzt!], dang it ok then AAAC! [bzzt!]
eightyearplan
https://youtu.be/-1iaJWSwUZs
Kompi
Might just be me, but I wasn't really convinced with what the video had to say. It seems reductionist and politically lensed.
eightyearplan
Rowling's book after HP was abt a town, with problems, & the council discussing changes vs. status quo.. that's political lensing..
eightyearplan
More than fair for readers to agree or disagree with Rowling's presentation / resolution. Stepping back into HP, we see the kids' problems..
eightyearplan
vs. voldemort, etc. - but these aren't in a vacuum - Rowling shows school administration / changes & wizarding council..
eightyearplan
More than fair for readers to agree or disagree with Rowling's presentation / resolution .. OP argues that positive good could have been
Colopty
Gotta commend how thoroughly that guy analyzed how Rowlings views shaped the world of Harry Potter.
eathotdog
Such a good breakdown
eightyearplan
4vie
It's too bad Stephen Fry is tall bloke because his Umbridge voice in the audio books was amazingly spot-on. He should have played her!
PatrickDiomedes
for all that I despise the series now, I'll say this much: the casting director was on their A-game for most of the movies
4vie
Too bad the writers weren't....
kheltan
Oh that's a good episode, but also it made me sad because i want to just love harry potter
LastoftheLillyCreatures
psych here: you can love harry potter, because loving something is an emotion. You just should also _know_ (rationally) that it is bad.
parkerh17
You can still love the universe even if you recognize some of the ppl and themes are problematic. Unfortunately it is pretty hard to >
parkerh17
Enjoy the plot after it is pointed out how much ridiculous shit happens just bc Rowling a) didn't plan ahead. B) had the worst possible >
parkerh17
Response to criticisms.
thebigbaka
I really hoped this was going to be real https://youtu.be/2WhhS2maFEs
ArdentSlacker
Should have ended with a dun-dun and "Executive Producer Dick Lupus"
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
I remember the collective meltdown when most realized it was a prank.
Mickp81
Had never seen that before, I would have watched it.
TheGloveFTW
I loved some of IGN's April Fools pranks, there was also the live action Legend of Zelda trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBCzkz3gHb8
Illithidbane
I just realized that in panel 1, Ron turns his face without turning his head.
anononanonanona
the other one does it in panel 2
jonalexassblast
I bet it sounds like a slice of meat sliding across another slice of meat everytime their face moves.
hwatL4bloopy
The magical world is very messed up
HoldingAccount
The artist doesn't have to redraw the characters in panels 1-3.
IAmDrBanner
Kid whose parents were murdered by a criminal who abused a corrupt system wants to be a cop to change things, more news at eleven. What /1
dontrike
Yeah, the character that only ever reacted to things is going to change stuff. Okay, sure.
ShadowSquids
But he doesn't want to change things he just wants different people in charge.
OneGoodRib
How is putting evil people in jail not trying to change things? Oh no he doesn't want wizard supremacists in charge, what a jerk.
Crowlands
Except he DOES want wizard supremacists in charge. They just don't Kill people. As often.
Crowlands
They still treat every other species as subhuman.
Dagordae
Except the people he wants in charge are also supremists. Wizarding society is completely fucked if you look at it with even the slightest
Dagordae
Analysis. Propping up a horrific authoritarian dystopia because it’s a familiar dystopia is still propping up a horrific dystopia.
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LoremAmetIpumSitDolor
Kid who experienced bigotry first hand decides he wants to be a cog in the very system that perpetuates it.
IAmDrBanner
Except that as book readers with have direct access to the character's thoughts and inner monologues, as we know that what you said isn't /1
IAmDrBanner
true based on that. I get wanting to extrapolate a story to reflect real events, but there comes to a point where it is just reaching. /2
LoremAmetIpumSitDolor
An example of what I said not being true would be a good argument. Luke, what is an example of something in the wizarding world that Harry
Crowlands
Except the wizard government of Harry Potter is, without Voldemort, still supremacist. Every other sentient species is treated as sub-human.
Gameskyjumper
Harry is very knowledgeable on offensive spells. It's like having machine guns and rockets launchers with unlimited ammos.
Dagordae
Please, Potter doesn’t know shit. Fucking RON is more knowledgeable.
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
Didn't he only learn like four spells in 7 years?
morelikeconsham
Eh, a) the movies ommitted *a lot* of the spells harry learned, b) even in the books, while harry learned many spells, he definitely took a
morelikeconsham
"why use many spell when one spell do trick" approach, and yet c) he was explicitly well versed in all combat magic, as demonstrated by his
morelikeconsham
exceptional DATDA scores (which outstripped Hermione's) and the fact that his students all excelled in OotP. I guess "it's complicated."
moolapie
Rowling is a neo-lib so of course the main character wants to become a cop
Bovisstercus
She is? So I guess she has some redeeming qualities after all.
Othernate
Bovisstercus
For more information: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/neoliberalism/
Othernate
So you think corporate libs are... good?
Bovisstercus
The term neoliberal has basically become a swear word at this point, devoid of any meaning and hated by both the left and the right.
Groznek
Don't forget the one character campaigning against the literal enslavement of a sapient species being ridiculed!
Groznek
The whole 'oh they're actually happy in servitude thing is also Rather Unfortunate. It's no wonder they quietly omitted it from the movies.
morelikeconsham
I found that a really interesting detail. On the one hand, it makes "liberating" them against their will a really interesting ethical
morelikeconsham
question. On the other hand.... why the hell does an author decide that a slave race that likes being slaves is a good thing for their story
Groznek
It's theoretically interesting, but has the unfortunate side effect of harkening back to real world pro-slavery justifications.
beoluves
The kire you look at the world the more you realize jk got incredibly lucky.
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waifusouls
She hit a good niche at the right time. That's just as important as great writing, if not moreso
waifusouls
To hitting the big times, that is. Should've clarified
OneGoodRib
The magical world is messed up, golly why would someone want to help by fighting evil wizards who kill people instead of whatever the fuck
beoluves
Yeah because when the entire society is controlled by despotic race supremacists joining the cops will sure have an impact
Dagordae
Help how exactly? By enforcing the status quo? We’re shown wizarding society is simply fucked from the bottom up. It’s fundamentally broken,
Dagordae
A better writer would have addressed the horrible dystopia rather than praise it as worth preserving.
Crowlands
Instead they fight for the evil wizards who torture and enslave myriad sentient races they deemed subhuman.
DatDarthCaedus
Yeah, their "justice" system in general puts many fictional dystopias to shame...
Crowlands
Yeah. Azkaban is pretty up there in terms of "Most horrific fictional prison".
DatDarthCaedus
And they send people there without a trial or any sort of evidence... and the trials and such we DO see happen are kangaroo court shams...
Prometheus79
Yeah they sent Hagrid based on fucking nothing other than Lucius Malfoy being a dick
Illithidbane
Potter was a school athlete that only dated other athletes, then dropped out and became a cop. Potter was a jock.
pareidoliaperson
Pottah!
4vie
Deeply tramautized jock.
maddeninglemon
Also he saw a slave being used as a food tester for poison, and his main thought was, "man, Hermione would be really annoying about this".
Tarlon
Ugh, no one CARES about SLAVE RIGHTS Hermione.
Crowlands
And he owned a slave. And one of his last thoughts, pre-epilogue, is "I should get my slave to make me a sandwich".
ChillaAquila
Just like his bully father
genericname2107
DON'T SAY A WORD AGAINST MY FATHER!
Prometheus79
A.....word....
WorkerLurker
He wasn’t given much of a chance to be outside beforehand. What’s he gonna do, lock himself in a new closet?
Apothecarius
Only if he started voted republican, I'm sure lady G has a couple extra closets he could hide in.
Lun4ticH1gh
Never mind the lady bugs.
ColoniaCroisant
He did peak in highschool......
PicassoCT
Potter high. 3 snitches in one season
Ryanator50
Well of course. He was a Gryffindor.
wadatahmydamie
Makes sense that a TERF uses him as the hero
redpandabanana
To be fair he was actively being hunted by wizard hitler constantly while teachers never told him shit so it was more out of necessity
MisterRichard
wizard Hitler and his dark, forbidden magic were defeated by a combination of mystic pedantry and a spell for picking on kids in cafeterias
rrlyrae
wizard THATCHER. grindy was wizard hitler. get your decades right.
GCRust
Wizard Hitler is a bit extreme just because Hitler was at least successful. Voldemort couldn't even successfully take over a High School
Imadethisaccounttopost
He took over England, Grim wa feared worldwide
beoluves
Funkiest still is that Voldy was so impossibly powerful he had to be killed by a technicality
jdoc5
He kinda did take over the school. He had his lackies in place. He took over the government too.
Unclescam
But not the school. Symbolism that schools are the last bastion of our society? Nah...it's jk
Prometheus79
For like 3 months at most. And was defeated by a c student high schooler
jdoc5
Think he had the school the entire 7th year. Cant refute the c student high schooler thing though.
xizar
dropout, wasn't he?
WeAreOctopi
Don’t forget the trust fund
Illithidbane
And married his highschool sweetheart. And hated to have to study.
dontrike
And had everyone else hand him the answers to everything while guiding him to every solution.
PTMdragon
MAGIC he wouldnt study fucking M A G I C. im not exactly studious myself but id deepthroat the driest dictionary if i got to shoot fireballs
Blackcurry328
He didn’t like studying potions because Snape was a bully, Divination, because Trelawny was always predicting his death. And History of 1/6
Blackcurry328
Magic because Binns was extremely boring. Honestly I have no idea where this “Harry is a dumb jock” thing started. Not only is it false 2/6
ShadowZX
Why do you think he only learned one spell
AzraelTheSorrowful
I thought you made a typo and spent quite some time trying to figure out what the "priest dictionary" is.
Illithidbane
But he had to write a 1-foot-long scroll! ONE PAGE of homework! That's too much. He'll just stick with expelliarmus.
CanadianCobraChicken
If I got to write about dragons and nifflers for homework as a fourteen-year-old I'd clean the castle outta parchment.
CrowBones4505
If I could defy the known laws of physics I'd do so in a heartbeat. As I've said elsewhere, I am easily seduced by strange, magical secrets.
Xanatosinc
Our world has figured out how to make sand think, but reading programming language references can still seriously suck.
PTMdragon
i think the difference is i can use technology without learning how to make it.
xlr82xs
TBH, coders are probably the group of people most wanting to be able to set people on fire with their minds..
Kittynomnoms
Honestly one of my favorite things to put in fantasy settings. The reason that 99.99% of people aren't wizards is because it requires 1/2
PorneliusHubertII
To be fair he studied magic, he struggled most in the history and the writing of papers. He always tested well in practical exams he just
PorneliusHubertII
Sucked at the theory. Remember he actually taught dada in his 5th year.