Jul 19, 2022 2:47 PM
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WoodHandle
So the secret service texts are available?
almightyblob
Haha, wait until you learn about cookies...
NomDeImguerre
I'm so glad I live in Europe. We'll make short work of this! (In about a decade or so)
Lappyrat92
I mean I kind of made peace with not having any privacy from big tech a long time ago. I’m not doing anything illegal so I don’t really care
elinveronicap
This is why I laughed so hard at every "the vaccine will track you"-type conspiracy theories.
TheRimOfTheSky
I've been hearing this kind of my whole life so it's not scary to me. If you're tracking everyone in the world it's almost the same as not
doing it. Because when the eyes are on everyone, the only processes that apply to the individual are automatic ones. Nobody is going through
your files looking for juicy shit. They're giving key information about stuff you like to people who want to sell you that stuff. That's all
Zedrapazia
I'm an author so I Google a lot of weird stuff ... Wonder what it thinks who I am. Also, why does it still send me sports news I hate if ->
-> it is really so clever? I don't even Google for sports.
TakeTheStairs
This all sounds very nefarious but a lot of this stuff is nexessary to get all these apps and systems working to the degree that we have 1/2
come to rely on and enjoy. this big scary list is also the result of the writer never blocking any permissions upon any installation.
fennecbutt
Idk I like having Google timeline enabled (yeah you can disable it, not even sure it's enabled by default) super helpful if I've been
Somewhere unfamiliar, it's great for travelling
flyingnetherlander
Some of this is not that surprising. Some of these obviously need to be tracked in order to provide the services they provide.
Layinginbed
Meh, oh well
TimAllenwasapiker
I have limited sympathy for someone dumb enough to keep a copy of their private key on Google Drive.
littlevache
Imgur is not mentioned anywhere in the comments... Do you really think your data is treated differently here because of the cats and fun ?
porphyre1e00
Serious question - is this stuff collected if you're NOT logged into Google services?
HlyAlch
Duh what did you think was happening.
theMantisTobogganMD
Right how do they think I can look at photos from 10 years ago on Facebook.
exactly. im pretty grateful my google calendar goes back so far. ive search very old stuff on it before needing the info
Titty5prinkles
ZanShintetsuken
this gif is terrible
starkeclipse
I thought it was kinda fun, personally
Moolicious
I don't know if I'm just overly literate in this area, but... Yeah. Isn't this well-known, or at least obvious?
paulwall117350
We all live in a modern mill village and get paid in company money that goes back to the company store. They just obfuscated it.
unusanimus
Seriously been trying to figure out how to ditch this popsicle stand so hard for a few years now.... it's fucking tenacious.
Hendlton
"You load 16 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt."
Ultratoxic
The whole "wander off into the woods and build a commune" idea starts to make more and more sense
I honestly wish I could do that. Pretty much the only thing stopping me is access to healthcare. I don't want to have a heart attack or >
something in the middle of the woods. Well, actually, there are probably laws also stopping me, but there are remote enough places where >
it's technically possible.
Mbcb350
1. My entire existence has been commodified. My love, my loss, my children, my dreams. So my ideal death is one in which no one profits.
2. No healthcare CEO. No insurance CEO. No pharma CEO. Just me, dead somewhere outside of the financial food chain. My death can be mine.
I've explained this to a lot of people. None of them give a single shit. Nobody is willing to stop using these services.
This is the truth. It's so hard to give these services up with how integrated they are into so many facets of life.
CafeNervosa
Tiktok: Hold my beer
RowanUnderwood
"every google ad I've clicked on" . . . at least I'm in the clear on that one :P
LoganX283
.....and if you think Apple isn't doing that as well, I have some bridges in Chicago I will sell you
CountNoodleClicker
So you are telling me I don't need a backup because I can download it from Google? Great. ?
ConservationTime
This was my secondary take-away too...
TheGreatAtomsk
nope, nothing. i'm sure they have tons of infos on me but not public facing. first thing i do with any service is check the privacy settings
matusaleninxys
I think that is the important part. Also, we need to consider that we willingly give them access to all that data... so...
HedonistBeard
This is an important point, although it's also important to realize that they still use and sell that data in ways that can be problematic.
cardinal29
Based on ads in my junk folder, I am an old man with diabetes/clogged gutters, who takes Viagra and needs life insurance
94562
Well, are you?
I'm a hot single in your area!
boobs675309
If we had a functional democracy we could demand that our lawmakers create laws that protect our privacy. instead they protect corporations
eromitlab
Corporations pay them better, and these asswipes follow the money.
Krytture
Google also reminds you that your search and location history is stored and gives you the option to clear it or turn it off.
Windows 10 asks you during setup what to do.
CornCobMcGee
That option is basically only "do you want the information we store about you available to you"
SwankyPotato
Anyone else feels “Word documents” is an incredibly boomer way to measure data volume?
OKSasquatch
I have Word docs that range from a few kb up to dozens of MB. It's a totally arbitrary measurement. They should use washing machines instead
tvts
Also that a single large image can easily be thousands of word documents. But its understandably hard for a lot of people to quantify 1 GB
50 minutes of your favorite porn at 1920x1080.
RabidDingo
Is it wrong that this doesn't bother me one bit?
lildude52ca
YES
BasmatiRice
I worry about how all this can be used for mass manipulation, like Trump or Brexit
mastodonj
No. I'm sure you clicked accept on the data collection just like the rest of us.
bekkayya
in 2 years republicans will be able to pass laws asking google to churn through this data for anybody suspected of trying to abort. care pls
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Yeah like..to what end? Trying to get me to click on ads? Just don't click .
layasd
Depends really. It doesn't have to bother you, but there should be options to entirely delete the data if you want it. Just, because you 1/2
don't care about your personal data doesn't mean nobody else does. What do you think happens when the data gets hacked? Could be very bad
even for someone that doesn't care. You might suddenly face charges you never thought would come up again. They get your passwords if you
unlucky. Like the dude said they got his password file. Not to far fetched they hack that one as well and get into your bank accounts.
Obviously I live in a dream world, because google will never let you delete the data/opt out easily or their regime would fall apart.
MissTuchanka
I don't care either, and I see ppl freaking out but don't understand why. I mean if you're a criminal yes this is a problem
The why is because this is a precedent. If the US ever elected someone who pushes for authoritarian gov't this info could make u a target
Also I worked in IT, anytime the big boss didn't have a reason to fire someone, they justified by asking us to tell them the web history
dingleberrysauce
Honestly no.. i couldn't care less that they know where i was, i bet they care even less. But it does contribute to better services. All 1/
The data collected is used in an algorithm. They don't have some creep eating fried chicken and sifting through someone's location history.
Tarmaccian
Exactly. What matters is the application, not the data. Knowing your location can remind you where you parked your car, or it can alert 1/?
Cops that you might be looking for unpersons. The data is just a harmless tool. Regulate its use instead… and that means voting. 2/2
LandiniusMaximus
All this and they still show me ads for stuff I don't want.. how silly..
PrincessWasabi
That just means you’ve done a good job at fooling their algorithm
SeriousSeamstress
They give me lots of weird ads but I also Google weird shit for art references.
chiefrunswithscissors
This is why I don't really care. They're flooded with useless information
Zerphses
I’m a 21 y/o male so I get military ads all the time, but my mental disorders disqualify me from joining. At least they’re not annoying ads.
watfordlad
Yes Google, I would like to start a collection of lawn mowers now I've bought one
its not that hard to trip up their system. Imgur's ad server still has no clue what my real interests are. (no imgur app on my phone btw)
imakesoap
I’m not the type to buy something from a random ad anyway. They’re kinda wasting their time on me, I think.
PutItInNeutral
When they do show me ads, I usually know exactly which of my internet activities triggered the ad.
OmegaKamidake
Mine shows me ads that my friends and family might like, i guess they're assuming most people would share the ad or click it to learn more.
RecurringNightmare
similarly idiotic as amazons 'hey you bought a new washing machine last week, here are another 20 washing machines for you to buy' bullshit
CreativeThief
I get a ton of ads based on my neighbors' interests.
DarkBusterBaron
I bought a pillow case 2 weeks ago now I constantly see ads for that website I do not need another pillow case.
bogus1983
They show you what the highest bidder wants you to want.
soamfb
It's BIG data, not SMART data
loislinlurksalot
Wait until they send it all to AI robots..di di du du di di du du
ChuckTingleBattlesTheAssGoblinsofAuschwitz
How naive they would think I need anything but liquor, drugs, porn and pizza
HandoB4Javert
flamingflamingo
I’m a gamer so I constantly see misleading ads of games that misrepresent the gameplay.
alpacasaurusrex
I’ve been getting every 2-5 posts on FB recently NOTHING but alt right propaganda, prolife shit, and Republican shit. I’m practically alt
left, I’m almost vehemently pro-choice, and once more - alt left by US standards. I think it’s basing ads on the idiots around me. It makes
me mad.
iamgurd
They also show ads based on your proximity to other people (may be applicable to them), conversations you're having, etc.
What is up with that ! Spoke about canoes once..
pudaheh
I basically watch nothing but music and breadtube-type videos on YouTube and they think I want FORD TRUCKS, MAN SOAP and The Blaze. Uh, no.
ProjectDA
im very open about my dislike of republicans, but youtube loves to give me ads by far right, nor can they suggest a decent song to me 99%
Yeah, so when people are like, "AI can do everything! The singularity is coming!" I'm like, "sure. Sure. Sure it is."
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
Prob can't show most of the stuff you want...
Well... I think you're right.. not a lot of ads for big titty goth girls...
blaghart
You can thank Exodus Cry and Morality in Media, the fascists behind the "pornhub child trafficking" lie, for that one.
ButLogicallyTho
Which is silly because they should be able to show you, if its tailored to you it wont /really/ be public, only you or similar people see it
LiamPhoto
It's just there's not many selling big titty goth girls at the moment mate
When will this drought end
itsthevoiceman
saturatedcottonballs
It isn't so much that they collect this stuff. Its the 1. Unrestricted use and 2. Storage of the info they collect that is very concerning.
putcleverusernamehere
If they didn't collect it they couldn't share it.
SimiKusoni
It's worth noting that usage isn't unrestricted in all jurisdictions, although holding them accountable for abuse is very difficulty because
you can't bring a claim without proving that you have a case and whilst you can request your data that gives you zero information regarding
how it has been used. The only way to gain that latter part would be via discovery, which requires bringing a claim...
It seems that the only way forward is through whistleblowers. And we treat whistleblowers so terribly
ProphetofEntropy
they can and do sell the data to governments and police forces.
We really must have laws protecting both. You collect the info and there's a breach, you're 100% responsible. Same for how it's used or sold
DeltaLaw
If only we owned our own data and could be compensated for its use
baddream
you are. you get to use youtube and other google services for free
LonelyHumanBoy
Basically HIPPAA for internet data collection. Should have existed the same time HI-TECH bill was enacted.
StarscreamAndHutch
Wont get it because the dinosaurs in congress don’t know tech and are happy to have access to this information w/o paying for it.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I found out that tech employers have some kind of special access to your information and use it to decide if they talk to you or not…
ImgurPlz
Not true, maybe if you apply at google or Facebook. But not at my company.
I made a database of tech development companies in silicon valley, my contact assistant got some feedback. It’s true & it ruined my life.
Whaaaa ?
Yeah, I scaled up my company, had a super ambitious plan to have clientele in many cities, got crushed and dismissed and even threatened.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
If you made a database in something like Google Docs and a company that's not Google was able to access that data, that's an explicit...
No, a database of companies to try to sell services to. Hundreds of VPs of marketing in 28 cities. Lots of feedback saying I’m unemployable
..breach of Google's TOS - not to mention an epic shitstorm for Google, which sells cloud office services to businesses that expect privacy.
WoodHandle
So the secret service texts are available?
almightyblob
Haha, wait until you learn about cookies...
NomDeImguerre
I'm so glad I live in Europe. We'll make short work of this! (In about a decade or so)
Lappyrat92
I mean I kind of made peace with not having any privacy from big tech a long time ago. I’m not doing anything illegal so I don’t really care
elinveronicap
This is why I laughed so hard at every "the vaccine will track you"-type conspiracy theories.
TheRimOfTheSky
I've been hearing this kind of my whole life so it's not scary to me. If you're tracking everyone in the world it's almost the same as not
TheRimOfTheSky
doing it. Because when the eyes are on everyone, the only processes that apply to the individual are automatic ones. Nobody is going through
TheRimOfTheSky
your files looking for juicy shit. They're giving key information about stuff you like to people who want to sell you that stuff. That's all
Zedrapazia
I'm an author so I Google a lot of weird stuff ... Wonder what it thinks who I am. Also, why does it still send me sports news I hate if ->
Zedrapazia
-> it is really so clever? I don't even Google for sports.
TakeTheStairs
This all sounds very nefarious but a lot of this stuff is nexessary to get all these apps and systems working to the degree that we have 1/2
TakeTheStairs
come to rely on and enjoy. this big scary list is also the result of the writer never blocking any permissions upon any installation.
fennecbutt
Idk I like having Google timeline enabled (yeah you can disable it, not even sure it's enabled by default) super helpful if I've been
fennecbutt
Somewhere unfamiliar, it's great for travelling
flyingnetherlander
Some of this is not that surprising. Some of these obviously need to be tracked in order to provide the services they provide.
Layinginbed
Meh, oh well
TimAllenwasapiker
I have limited sympathy for someone dumb enough to keep a copy of their private key on Google Drive.
littlevache
Imgur is not mentioned anywhere in the comments... Do you really think your data is treated differently here because of the cats and fun ?
porphyre1e00
Serious question - is this stuff collected if you're NOT logged into Google services?
HlyAlch
Duh what did you think was happening.
theMantisTobogganMD
Right how do they think I can look at photos from 10 years ago on Facebook.
TakeTheStairs
exactly. im pretty grateful my google calendar goes back so far. ive search very old stuff on it before needing the info
Titty5prinkles
ZanShintetsuken
this gif is terrible
starkeclipse
I thought it was kinda fun, personally
Moolicious
I don't know if I'm just overly literate in this area, but... Yeah. Isn't this well-known, or at least obvious?
paulwall117350
We all live in a modern mill village and get paid in company money that goes back to the company store. They just obfuscated it.
unusanimus
Seriously been trying to figure out how to ditch this popsicle stand so hard for a few years now.... it's fucking tenacious.
Hendlton
"You load 16 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt."
Ultratoxic
The whole "wander off into the woods and build a commune" idea starts to make more and more sense
Hendlton
I honestly wish I could do that. Pretty much the only thing stopping me is access to healthcare. I don't want to have a heart attack or >
Hendlton
something in the middle of the woods. Well, actually, there are probably laws also stopping me, but there are remote enough places where >
Hendlton
it's technically possible.
Mbcb350
1. My entire existence has been commodified. My love, my loss, my children, my dreams. So my ideal death is one in which no one profits.
Mbcb350
2. No healthcare CEO. No insurance CEO. No pharma CEO. Just me, dead somewhere outside of the financial food chain. My death can be mine.
Hendlton
I've explained this to a lot of people. None of them give a single shit. Nobody is willing to stop using these services.
starkeclipse
This is the truth. It's so hard to give these services up with how integrated they are into so many facets of life.
CafeNervosa
Tiktok: Hold my beer
RowanUnderwood
"every google ad I've clicked on" . . . at least I'm in the clear on that one :P
LoganX283
.....and if you think Apple isn't doing that as well, I have some bridges in Chicago I will sell you
CountNoodleClicker
So you are telling me I don't need a backup because I can download it from Google? Great. ?
ConservationTime
This was my secondary take-away too...
TheGreatAtomsk
nope, nothing. i'm sure they have tons of infos on me but not public facing. first thing i do with any service is check the privacy settings
matusaleninxys
I think that is the important part. Also, we need to consider that we willingly give them access to all that data... so...
HedonistBeard
This is an important point, although it's also important to realize that they still use and sell that data in ways that can be problematic.
cardinal29
Based on ads in my junk folder, I am an old man with diabetes/clogged gutters, who takes Viagra and needs life insurance
94562
Well, are you?
cardinal29
I'm a hot single in your area!
boobs675309
If we had a functional democracy we could demand that our lawmakers create laws that protect our privacy. instead they protect corporations
eromitlab
Corporations pay them better, and these asswipes follow the money.
Krytture
Google also reminds you that your search and location history is stored and gives you the option to clear it or turn it off.
Krytture
Windows 10 asks you during setup what to do.
CornCobMcGee
That option is basically only "do you want the information we store about you available to you"
SwankyPotato
Anyone else feels “Word documents” is an incredibly boomer way to measure data volume?
OKSasquatch
I have Word docs that range from a few kb up to dozens of MB. It's a totally arbitrary measurement. They should use washing machines instead
tvts
Also that a single large image can easily be thousands of word documents. But its understandably hard for a lot of people to quantify 1 GB
OKSasquatch
50 minutes of your favorite porn at 1920x1080.
RabidDingo
Is it wrong that this doesn't bother me one bit?
lildude52ca
YES
BasmatiRice
I worry about how all this can be used for mass manipulation, like Trump or Brexit
mastodonj
No. I'm sure you clicked accept on the data collection just like the rest of us.
bekkayya
in 2 years republicans will be able to pass laws asking google to churn through this data for anybody suspected of trying to abort. care pls
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Yeah like..to what end? Trying to get me to click on ads? Just don't click .
layasd
Depends really. It doesn't have to bother you, but there should be options to entirely delete the data if you want it. Just, because you 1/2
layasd
don't care about your personal data doesn't mean nobody else does. What do you think happens when the data gets hacked? Could be very bad
layasd
even for someone that doesn't care. You might suddenly face charges you never thought would come up again. They get your passwords if you
layasd
unlucky. Like the dude said they got his password file. Not to far fetched they hack that one as well and get into your bank accounts.
layasd
Obviously I live in a dream world, because google will never let you delete the data/opt out easily or their regime would fall apart.
MissTuchanka
I don't care either, and I see ppl freaking out but don't understand why. I mean if you're a criminal yes this is a problem
cherbear333
The why is because this is a precedent. If the US ever elected someone who pushes for authoritarian gov't this info could make u a target
cherbear333
Also I worked in IT, anytime the big boss didn't have a reason to fire someone, they justified by asking us to tell them the web history
dingleberrysauce
Honestly no.. i couldn't care less that they know where i was, i bet they care even less. But it does contribute to better services. All 1/
dingleberrysauce
The data collected is used in an algorithm. They don't have some creep eating fried chicken and sifting through someone's location history.
Tarmaccian
Exactly. What matters is the application, not the data. Knowing your location can remind you where you parked your car, or it can alert 1/?
Tarmaccian
Cops that you might be looking for unpersons. The data is just a harmless tool. Regulate its use instead… and that means voting. 2/2
LandiniusMaximus
All this and they still show me ads for stuff I don't want.. how silly..
PrincessWasabi
That just means you’ve done a good job at fooling their algorithm
SeriousSeamstress
They give me lots of weird ads but I also Google weird shit for art references.
chiefrunswithscissors
This is why I don't really care. They're flooded with useless information
Zerphses
I’m a 21 y/o male so I get military ads all the time, but my mental disorders disqualify me from joining. At least they’re not annoying ads.
watfordlad
Yes Google, I would like to start a collection of lawn mowers now I've bought one
TakeTheStairs
its not that hard to trip up their system. Imgur's ad server still has no clue what my real interests are. (no imgur app on my phone btw)
imakesoap
I’m not the type to buy something from a random ad anyway. They’re kinda wasting their time on me, I think.
PutItInNeutral
When they do show me ads, I usually know exactly which of my internet activities triggered the ad.
OmegaKamidake
Mine shows me ads that my friends and family might like, i guess they're assuming most people would share the ad or click it to learn more.
RecurringNightmare
similarly idiotic as amazons 'hey you bought a new washing machine last week, here are another 20 washing machines for you to buy' bullshit
CreativeThief
I get a ton of ads based on my neighbors' interests.
DarkBusterBaron
I bought a pillow case 2 weeks ago now I constantly see ads for that website I do not need another pillow case.
bogus1983
They show you what the highest bidder wants you to want.
soamfb
It's BIG data, not SMART data
loislinlurksalot
Wait until they send it all to AI robots..di di du du di di du du
ChuckTingleBattlesTheAssGoblinsofAuschwitz
How naive they would think I need anything but liquor, drugs, porn and pizza
HandoB4Javert
flamingflamingo
I’m a gamer so I constantly see misleading ads of games that misrepresent the gameplay.
alpacasaurusrex
I’ve been getting every 2-5 posts on FB recently NOTHING but alt right propaganda, prolife shit, and Republican shit. I’m practically alt
alpacasaurusrex
left, I’m almost vehemently pro-choice, and once more - alt left by US standards. I think it’s basing ads on the idiots around me. It makes
alpacasaurusrex
me mad.
iamgurd
They also show ads based on your proximity to other people (may be applicable to them), conversations you're having, etc.
loislinlurksalot
What is up with that ! Spoke about canoes once..
pudaheh
I basically watch nothing but music and breadtube-type videos on YouTube and they think I want FORD TRUCKS, MAN SOAP and The Blaze. Uh, no.
ProjectDA
im very open about my dislike of republicans, but youtube loves to give me ads by far right, nor can they suggest a decent song to me 99%
pudaheh
Yeah, so when people are like, "AI can do everything! The singularity is coming!" I'm like, "sure. Sure. Sure it is."
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
Prob can't show most of the stuff you want...
LandiniusMaximus
Well... I think you're right.. not a lot of ads for big titty goth girls...
blaghart
You can thank Exodus Cry and Morality in Media, the fascists behind the "pornhub child trafficking" lie, for that one.
ButLogicallyTho
Which is silly because they should be able to show you, if its tailored to you it wont /really/ be public, only you or similar people see it
LiamPhoto
It's just there's not many selling big titty goth girls at the moment mate
ButLogicallyTho
When will this drought end
itsthevoiceman
saturatedcottonballs
It isn't so much that they collect this stuff. Its the 1. Unrestricted use and 2. Storage of the info they collect that is very concerning.
putcleverusernamehere
If they didn't collect it they couldn't share it.
SimiKusoni
It's worth noting that usage isn't unrestricted in all jurisdictions, although holding them accountable for abuse is very difficulty because
SimiKusoni
you can't bring a claim without proving that you have a case and whilst you can request your data that gives you zero information regarding
SimiKusoni
how it has been used. The only way to gain that latter part would be via discovery, which requires bringing a claim...
saturatedcottonballs
It seems that the only way forward is through whistleblowers. And we treat whistleblowers so terribly
ProphetofEntropy
they can and do sell the data to governments and police forces.
saturatedcottonballs
We really must have laws protecting both. You collect the info and there's a breach, you're 100% responsible. Same for how it's used or sold
DeltaLaw
If only we owned our own data and could be compensated for its use
baddream
you are. you get to use youtube and other google services for free
LonelyHumanBoy
Basically HIPPAA for internet data collection. Should have existed the same time HI-TECH bill was enacted.
StarscreamAndHutch
Wont get it because the dinosaurs in congress don’t know tech and are happy to have access to this information w/o paying for it.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I found out that tech employers have some kind of special access to your information and use it to decide if they talk to you or not…
ImgurPlz
Not true, maybe if you apply at google or Facebook. But not at my company.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I made a database of tech development companies in silicon valley, my contact assistant got some feedback. It’s true & it ruined my life.
ImgurPlz
Whaaaa ?
PineappleLoopsBroether
Yeah, I scaled up my company, had a super ambitious plan to have clientele in many cities, got crushed and dismissed and even threatened.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
If you made a database in something like Google Docs and a company that's not Google was able to access that data, that's an explicit...
PineappleLoopsBroether
No, a database of companies to try to sell services to. Hundreds of VPs of marketing in 28 cities. Lots of feedback saying I’m unemployable
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
..breach of Google's TOS - not to mention an epic shitstorm for Google, which sells cloud office services to businesses that expect privacy.