Oct 28, 2021 2:15 PM
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FortheKing56
Malum in se are laws that are agreed upon by all civilized people (murder) malum prohibitum makes something illegal because of lobbyists.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Laws exist to protect the interests of the ruling class, not the common person, and police are their personal military force. Fuck them.
middleburgh
"rule by law" ....as opposed to... "rule of law"
jimmythehat1
For the "Rule of Law!" crowd
Smidge204
While I agree with the overall message, the holocaust *wasn't* legal, which is why we put them all on trial for war crimes...
Mewmus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
ThisIsMyUsernameAAA
Fuck yeah, anarcho-communism forever
Subsound
If you say so
benderfreak
I love the irony that this scene was about strictly staying to common law of bureaucraty.
Commentsaboutyourusername
I love the scene after with that freak, Bender
dank69
No such thing as lawful good
Redshadow09
rage against the machine!
ironwill2008
It's sometimes overlooked that although something is 'legal,' that doesn't automatically make it morally right.
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
RPCharImages
I would argue the written law also has intent, the law as written and the law as intended isnt always the same thing (right to bare arms -
-assumes civilian militias are a core part of the US' defence for example) a court officers job is to weigh the two and strike a balance
bBoldBrian
ASMR
QueefMalone
War on.
randomperson32
The genocide and dispossession happening in Palestine is not legal, but it's happening anyway and no one is doing anything about it.
daromander
It's not a genocide. It could be apartheid but it's not a genocide
leodavinci1
Here's another reminder: Morality isn't a guide for legality. If you think it is, you should have no problem living in a theocracy. 1
Oh, you think morality should guide legality, but you don't think "religious" morality should? Too bad cause you're going to end up 2
with the same result... an authoritarian State that tells you how you must live your life. Only minus the religious elements. 3
wannabecowboy
Yeah, it wasn’t against the law to free slaves. It was illegal for them to run away but nobody got in trouble for freeing their own slaves.
GnomeDeGuerre
That's 2 different things. You're inserting an artificial "own slaves" into "freeing slaves".
JesusStoleMyWeed
I think it's implying that you can't free another mans slave
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
That's some top shelf pedantry there brother!
beoluves
Law (usually) points at the very bare minimum one should do. Anything else has to come from us
How was slavery or the holocaust the bare minimum of what one should do?
(Usually)
There's a lot of exceptions to that which has cost millions of lives, let alone incarceration for substances that are now legal
The bare minimum, I said. Law is not moral, not always. This isn't me covering from it. Just stating a fact. We're meant to do more
If the law isn't moral or immoral maybe we shouldn't be taking ideas of morality from legality. Just stating a fact jack.
svga
SenfinaZeit
Remember: killing executives doesn't slow the corporate march. Destroy their capital if you want to actually stop them.
Koga90
I'm pretty sure protesting racism was never criminalized, you have people as far back as the founding fathers doing it in the open.
bloodydingo
I'm pretty sure it has been if you just look at the police response
You're a fool
No u
laws are based on the morality of the time, both morals and laws change over time.
Laws are based on the corporation that paid the politicians.
Tarmaccian
Exactly. Prevailing morality is always changing. Someday we’ll be considered backwards bigots, too, for reasons we don’t expect now.
right? i wonder what we do today (that's considered normal and ok) that 2 generations from now will call "evil/-ist/-phobic" etc.
pleasebrodontdoitdontregisteronimgur
Laws are based on the needs of those in power at the time, morality is rarely invited to the brainstorming sessions, but more during the PR.
Kbantar
True in a pure democracy. The U.S. ain't one of those.
TheGreatAndUndeniableDoosher
I mean what can we do. I started a MoveOn petition against the NC Lt. Governor, and only got around 350 signatures.
He called LGBTQ "filth"!
EdelwoodHikes
Sidenote: Don't use any of these examples as an excuse not to get vaccinated, don't be a selfish idiot.
SpotIsInDaBLDG
Vaccines were legal.... Being a selfish idiot was criminalized
It wasn't even criminalized. No one passed a law requiring vaccination. They just said if you aren't vaccinated you can't do certain things.
VaultGirl69
It's crazy how people don't understand right from wrong (or at worst choose to ignore their conscience for selfish reasons that are obvious)
bugcooper
that is exactly where it seemed to be going to me
captstiches21
Yeah, posts like these inevitably prompt anti-vaxxers, militia terrorists, MAGA-facists etc. to yell "tHiS iS tHe ReAl HoLoCaUsT!"
CliveWinslett
"These points are good when I agree with them."
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
It's pretty easy to divide these pics into two columns. On the left is hurting others. On the right is helping others. Vaccines help others.
TeaOverdose
to the person who downvoted you: go get vaccinated you plague rat.
PushPullMagnet
1) Don't be a dick 2) ?????? 3) Profit
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
That only works of someone argues you should get vaxxed ONLY because its the law, which would a be a shit argument even tho vaxxing is good.
DYLANLEE79
It was illegal for me to have sex until I was 24 and Lawrence v. Texas happened.
DynamaxAgumon
I bet it was way hotter when it was illegal tho. Forbidden fruit and all.
SingleDadLife
Had to look that one up. 2003? Jebus.
AgnosticPaladin
Oh no, it was illegal for you to have sex the way you wanted it. It was legal the way *they* wanted it.
majesticSeaotter
Y'all find it funny how full on committees spend time obsessing over details about gay sex... but don't think thats sus?
AntiProtonBoy
I can imagine the low key chubs they were getting when they were fantasising… i mean discussing gay sex in a committee.
You can eat all the uranium you want.
My comment was not to make fun of you, but rather to show their hypocrisy. Also, i probably eat a little more uranium than i want.
I didn't think you were. Just illustrating the point.
stinkbeaner
But do you fuck it?
qtRaven
The forbidden dildo...
Probably more than i want...
FortheKing56
Malum in se are laws that are agreed upon by all civilized people (murder) malum prohibitum makes something illegal because of lobbyists.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Laws exist to protect the interests of the ruling class, not the common person, and police are their personal military force. Fuck them.
middleburgh
"rule by law" ....as opposed to... "rule of law"
jimmythehat1
For the "Rule of Law!" crowd
Smidge204
While I agree with the overall message, the holocaust *wasn't* legal, which is why we put them all on trial for war crimes...
Mewmus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
ThisIsMyUsernameAAA
Fuck yeah, anarcho-communism forever
Subsound
If you say so
benderfreak
benderfreak
I love the irony that this scene was about strictly staying to common law of bureaucraty.
Commentsaboutyourusername
I love the scene after with that freak, Bender
dank69
No such thing as lawful good
Redshadow09
rage against the machine!
ironwill2008
It's sometimes overlooked that although something is 'legal,' that doesn't automatically make it morally right.
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
RPCharImages
I would argue the written law also has intent, the law as written and the law as intended isnt always the same thing (right to bare arms -
RPCharImages
-assumes civilian militias are a core part of the US' defence for example) a court officers job is to weigh the two and strike a balance
bBoldBrian
ASMR
QueefMalone
War on.
randomperson32
The genocide and dispossession happening in Palestine is not legal, but it's happening anyway and no one is doing anything about it.
daromander
It's not a genocide. It could be apartheid but it's not a genocide
leodavinci1
Here's another reminder: Morality isn't a guide for legality. If you think it is, you should have no problem living in a theocracy. 1
leodavinci1
Oh, you think morality should guide legality, but you don't think "religious" morality should? Too bad cause you're going to end up 2
leodavinci1
with the same result... an authoritarian State that tells you how you must live your life. Only minus the religious elements. 3
wannabecowboy
Yeah, it wasn’t against the law to free slaves. It was illegal for them to run away but nobody got in trouble for freeing their own slaves.
GnomeDeGuerre
That's 2 different things. You're inserting an artificial "own slaves" into "freeing slaves".
JesusStoleMyWeed
I think it's implying that you can't free another mans slave
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
That's some top shelf pedantry there brother!
beoluves
Law (usually) points at the very bare minimum one should do. Anything else has to come from us
Subsound
How was slavery or the holocaust the bare minimum of what one should do?
beoluves
(Usually)
Subsound
There's a lot of exceptions to that which has cost millions of lives, let alone incarceration for substances that are now legal
beoluves
The bare minimum, I said. Law is not moral, not always. This isn't me covering from it. Just stating a fact. We're meant to do more
Subsound
If the law isn't moral or immoral maybe we shouldn't be taking ideas of morality from legality. Just stating a fact jack.
svga
SenfinaZeit
Remember: killing executives doesn't slow the corporate march. Destroy their capital if you want to actually stop them.
Koga90
I'm pretty sure protesting racism was never criminalized, you have people as far back as the founding fathers doing it in the open.
bloodydingo
I'm pretty sure it has been if you just look at the police response
Koga90
You're a fool
bloodydingo
No u
Mewmus
laws are based on the morality of the time, both morals and laws change over time.
GnomeDeGuerre
Laws are based on the corporation that paid the politicians.
Tarmaccian
Exactly. Prevailing morality is always changing. Someday we’ll be considered backwards bigots, too, for reasons we don’t expect now.
Mewmus
right? i wonder what we do today (that's considered normal and ok) that 2 generations from now will call "evil/-ist/-phobic" etc.
pleasebrodontdoitdontregisteronimgur
Laws are based on the needs of those in power at the time, morality is rarely invited to the brainstorming sessions, but more during the PR.
Kbantar
True in a pure democracy. The U.S. ain't one of those.
TheGreatAndUndeniableDoosher
I mean what can we do. I started a MoveOn petition against the NC Lt. Governor, and only got around 350 signatures.
TheGreatAndUndeniableDoosher
He called LGBTQ "filth"!
EdelwoodHikes
Sidenote: Don't use any of these examples as an excuse not to get vaccinated, don't be a selfish idiot.
SpotIsInDaBLDG
Vaccines were legal.... Being a selfish idiot was criminalized
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
It wasn't even criminalized. No one passed a law requiring vaccination. They just said if you aren't vaccinated you can't do certain things.
SpotIsInDaBLDG
VaultGirl69
It's crazy how people don't understand right from wrong (or at worst choose to ignore their conscience for selfish reasons that are obvious)
bugcooper
that is exactly where it seemed to be going to me
captstiches21
Yeah, posts like these inevitably prompt anti-vaxxers, militia terrorists, MAGA-facists etc. to yell "tHiS iS tHe ReAl HoLoCaUsT!"
CliveWinslett
"These points are good when I agree with them."
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
It's pretty easy to divide these pics into two columns. On the left is hurting others. On the right is helping others. Vaccines help others.
TeaOverdose
to the person who downvoted you: go get vaccinated you plague rat.
PushPullMagnet
1) Don't be a dick 2) ?????? 3) Profit
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
That only works of someone argues you should get vaxxed ONLY because its the law, which would a be a shit argument even tho vaxxing is good.
DYLANLEE79
It was illegal for me to have sex until I was 24 and Lawrence v. Texas happened.
DynamaxAgumon
I bet it was way hotter when it was illegal tho. Forbidden fruit and all.
SingleDadLife
Had to look that one up. 2003? Jebus.
AgnosticPaladin
Oh no, it was illegal for you to have sex the way you wanted it. It was legal the way *they* wanted it.
majesticSeaotter
Y'all find it funny how full on committees spend time obsessing over details about gay sex... but don't think thats sus?
AntiProtonBoy
I can imagine the low key chubs they were getting when they were fantasising… i mean discussing gay sex in a committee.
DYLANLEE79
You can eat all the uranium you want.
AgnosticPaladin
My comment was not to make fun of you, but rather to show their hypocrisy. Also, i probably eat a little more uranium than i want.
DYLANLEE79
I didn't think you were. Just illustrating the point.
stinkbeaner
But do you fuck it?
qtRaven
The forbidden dildo...
AgnosticPaladin
Probably more than i want...