I presume if their headlights are adjusted correctly an add on device to redirect the light downward wouldn't be necessary, however, I'm not wise in ways of Jeep accessories so you are probably correct.
For higher vehicles, the problem is worse. Then if it is lifted at all, or has larger tires, it will have a higher ride height than stock, so the headlights may still be too high for shorter cars.
Designed for drivers to see better, has created a safety issue by blinding oncoming drivers. Definitely not required for cities and towns on clear nights
Frankly I wish they'd make Xenon headlights illegal. Getting flashbang'd whenever one of them shits drives behind me or coming the other way has lost what limited appeal it had.
Xenon’s are dim in comparison to LED lights and LEDs are DIM compared to laser lights (if I recall Audis laser head lights have an effective range of 2 miles) however most modern led and laser headlights can detect oncoming cars and turn off the part of the light that would dazzle another driver
Brights are meant to be used momentarily. Not constantly. Imagine driving on a back road and some ass hole has his brights on, cause he fears hitting a deer. Now you are going towards him. Now you can’t see and he can’t see. You’re both going to hit a deer. Turn them off and both of you can see again. Brights are meant for in town, there is plenty of street lights and such to light up behind cars coming towards you so you can always see. In the country there isn’t anything but pitch black.
If brights (high beams) were only meant to be used momentarily, you would not be able to flip them forward. You'd only be able to pull back (such as in flash to pass). High beams are meant to be used in darker areas where visibility is reduced due to lower lighting. Not meant to be used in fog, snow, or at oncoming drivers.
Some cars have automatic high beams that turn off when they sense light from oncoming vehicles or street lamps (as mine does). I've turned mine off because pointless
My high beams are made from natural light that I pump in and collect. If you rubbed your cheek on one, it would be like standing outside with the sun shining on your face. It would also set your hair on fire, so don't actually do it.
There's a company that makes and sells handheld flashlights powerful enough to cook an egg reasonably quick. Of course you can only have it turned on for a few minutes before it becomes so hot it will the flesh off your hands. I think I heard that some places have banned that flashlight due to it being too unsafe.
I got one of those... the weird batteries inside weren't labeled so it was rough to tell if they were in correctly. Smelled like burnt plastic and electrical fire even with the batteries inserted correctly. After mixing up the batteries I just threw it all away before I accidently blinded myself or set the house on fire... it was bright af though
I drive a semi truck. I can actually do that. Someone comes up behind or beside me, and I've got this wonderful button I call the Jellyfish Launcher that turns on a bunch of LED lights on the back of my truck. If I have a trailer, then the ones on the sides of my cab blind them, but if I don't have a trailer, they get the full force of the brightness of the Sun that I can unleash.
I was traveling on a mountain highway and some ahole camping in the left lane didn't like the person who came up behind them and flash their high beams so he threw on his bumper mounted LED setup and completely blinded me in the right lane, the person behind him, and the truck hauling a massive trailer in front of me. I drive old beater and have never wanted to run someone off the road that badly before. We all damn near drove off a cliff.
I was leaving Mt Isa about 4:00am and a guy in a 4WD ahead of me turned on his Uber-light rig that turned night into day and had angled lights that showed the bush on either side - for roo spotting. Then he hit the gas and powered away at what looked like 130km/hr. His fucking lights startled a wild boar which of course raced out onto the road just in time to hit my vehicle.
The LEDs we use aren't too bright, per se- Its that all the light comes from one tiny point, so the source is very concentrated, making it appear much brighter than it is.
It's installation angle or poor beam angle more than lumen output or CCT. Even with very bright, high CCT lamps, LEDs CAN be designed with excellent cut-off beams so that there's far less glare produced outside the designed are to be lit than with traditional Halogen lamps and reflectors. Execution and installation, however, frequently stink.
Was driving the other night, and the car behind me was at least 1/4 mile behind me and it was still casting a shadow of my head in my sun-visor. Was so fucking annoying.
It is more than that. LED light clusters are brighter than old halogen lights. If you opt to use them, you should also be changing out the shell, which would have a higher opacity, to allow less of the light to pass through, but they change out only one component, thus making it everyone else's problem. Unregulated market comes back to bite you sometimes
yeah the brightness is a serious issue with all public lights these days. Headlights, stoplights, streetlights- I feel like we switched over to LEDs which can produce so much more light, and then just didn't modulate them for the purposes we wanted them for at all. Everything is so fucking bright these days, it's ridiculous, street lights should not be painfully bright.
When we switched to LEDs, not just on cars, but everywhere, manufacturers decided that any kind of glare management is no longer necessary. If a lamp is done right, you shouldn't be able to directly see the emitter on it, but on most LEDs you do. Car lights peaked with HIDs, which coincidentally happened in mid 2000's when pretty much all car tech peaked.
That's not completely true. I know at least Audi (and probably other non-US) manufacturers have glare reducing LED headlights that will sense other vehicles and turn off the specific LEDs to avoid dazzling the oncoming drivers.
That said, at least in the US, regulators move at a snail's pace for newer technology
I'm aware of tech you are talking about, it was legalzied in US too in 2022, a bit late but hey. Tesla seems to be the first US manufacturer I know of to offer it. However this is not what I'm talking about, they are still minmaxing brightness, making lights with tons of glare but just shutting off a segment of them when an oncoming car is detected.
The option for adaptive headlights is around $4k-$6k from these manufacturers, which is coincidentally how much my entire car is worth. So unless they get drastically cheaper, this wont scale. That would turn minor fender bender into potentially 5 figure service note.
There needs to be an upgrade for the pickups driving 2 inches from my rear bumper, burning the retinas from my sockets with their headlights aimed at my rear view mirror.
My brother in law was an airplane mechanic. He somehow mounted an airplane landing light on his rear deck of a 67 Chevy impala, come up with high beams, you got nailed with that light. Only for a couple seconds. This was the mid 70s, remember it like yesterday.
My rearview mirror has an automatic dimming when an bright light shines in it, it works amazingly well. But sadly that isn't the case for my side mirrors though...
The new mirrors have lcd shading in them, and a light sensor facing rearwards, so if bright lights are behind you, they auto dim. They’ve been around for about 25 years now.
Lightsmith
Lately its less hogh bes and more excessive lumens in headlights from manufacturers
YouThinkImEspeciallyNotAGenius
It’s not the high beams anymore. It’s the white lights(led lights?) that are always installed incorrectly
Onlyhereforthelaughs
luck3clover
Durgon8tr
fucking bright white led headlamps should be against the law. i can't even see the damn road when there's one coming at me
dbbbbs
This would work better rear facing for attacking high beamers that come at you from behind.
Kunkoh
Need some more facing backwards
nwilsthrills
Those lights and gas prices these days?
FartsSmellBad
And yet they're still blocking part of their actual headlights with the dumbass "angry eyes"
Totallyscrewedinaustin
...are those not to redirect the light downwards?
shyasen
I presume if their headlights are adjusted correctly an add on device to redirect the light downward wouldn't be necessary, however, I'm not wise in ways of Jeep accessories so you are probably correct.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
For higher vehicles, the problem is worse. Then if it is lifted at all, or has larger tires, it will have a higher ride height than stock, so the headlights may still be too high for shorter cars.
DangerRNGR
I just point my rear view mirror straight back and slow to 5 under the speed limit.
DontTazeMeBrah
At this point, I am going to have to wear those yellow tint glasses
alwaysfeedingme
Designed for drivers to see better, has created a safety issue by blinding oncoming drivers. Definitely not required for cities and towns on clear nights
jhharkjh24
Where can I get an aftermarket magnetic pulse generator?
ironymus
you are asking the important questions
supertigerlamp
Frankly I wish they'd make Xenon headlights illegal. Getting flashbang'd whenever one of them shits drives behind me or coming the other way has lost what limited appeal it had.
OptimusPom
It's easier to drive 5 below or slower to get them to quickly pass you and annoy every oncoming car anyway.
EricPisch
Xenon’s are dim in comparison to LED lights and LEDs are DIM compared to laser lights (if I recall Audis laser head lights have an effective range of 2 miles) however most modern led and laser headlights can detect oncoming cars and turn off the part of the light that would dazzle another driver
EricPisch
https://youtu.be/KF0dSgSrPHQ?feature=shared
BabiesAreGreatMedRare
Lets be honest: a lot of the people with obnoxious high beams are jacked trucks and Jeeps. Now what happens?
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
mirrorz
I'm betting they "are" the asshole with high beams on all the time.
Hewhoworkswhileyousleep
Brights are meant to be used momentarily. Not constantly. Imagine driving on a back road and some ass hole has his brights on, cause he fears hitting a deer. Now you are going towards him. Now you can’t see and he can’t see. You’re both going to hit a deer. Turn them off and both of you can see again. Brights are meant for in town, there is plenty of street lights and such to light up behind cars coming towards you so you can always see. In the country there isn’t anything but pitch black.
sohowsgoing
If brights (high beams) were only meant to be used momentarily, you would not be able to flip them forward. You'd only be able to pull back (such as in flash to pass). High beams are meant to be used in darker areas where visibility is reduced due to lower lighting. Not meant to be used in fog, snow, or at oncoming drivers.
Some cars have automatic high beams that turn off when they sense light from oncoming vehicles or street lamps (as mine does). I've turned mine off because pointless
TotallyNotGLaDOS
My high beams are made from natural light that I pump in and collect. If you rubbed your cheek on one, it would be like standing outside with the sun shining on your face. It would also set your hair on fire, so don't actually do it.
RummageSaleBubbler
So, solar power + EV?
BeaverOnFire
gimpyfloyd6
the cake is a lie
SnakesInBowties
AngryViking32
SnakesInBowties
LOL, thank you!
chaylar
But can you bake a cake with them?
Bunhyung
You had me at High beams.
SquirrelWithATophat
There's a company that makes and sells handheld flashlights powerful enough to cook an egg reasonably quick. Of course you can only have it turned on for a few minutes before it becomes so hot it will the flesh off your hands. I think I heard that some places have banned that flashlight due to it being too unsafe.
BeaverOnFire
TotallyNotGLaDOS
So you’ve tried Aperture brand flash lights?
ZigTech
I got one of those... the weird batteries inside weren't labeled so it was rough to tell if they were in correctly. Smelled like burnt plastic and electrical fire even with the batteries inserted correctly. After mixing up the batteries I just threw it all away before I accidently blinded myself or set the house on fire... it was bright af though
Becker37
A lot of those assholes are driving jeeps
TheAziz
CLARKSOOOON
VibratingNipples
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Jodski
man I wish that was legal
defurious
And i wish my trunk opened fully 90 degrees
KirbyUOR
I drive a semi truck. I can actually do that. Someone comes up behind or beside me, and I've got this wonderful button I call the Jellyfish Launcher that turns on a bunch of LED lights on the back of my truck. If I have a trailer, then the ones on the sides of my cab blind them, but if I don't have a trailer, they get the full force of the brightness of the Sun that I can unleash.
anonymous
I did this IRL. It did not go over well. Just makes the person behind you tailgate you even harder out of anger.
Better solution is to buy a fast car. Drop a gear and disappear.
livingonagiantfireball
I just open the sunroof and slowly release a small ball bearing every minute
KirbyUOR
Pennies. I used to carry pennies for this purpose
anonymous
I would have never thought of that. You two are evil geniuses.
coldbreakfastpizza
sf111
AlwaysInTheshadows
I was traveling on a mountain highway and some ahole camping in the left lane didn't like the person who came up behind them and flash their high beams so he threw on his bumper mounted LED setup and completely blinded me in the right lane, the person behind him, and the truck hauling a massive trailer in front of me. I drive old beater and have never wanted to run someone off the road that badly before. We all damn near drove off a cliff.
ivymantled69
I was leaving Mt Isa about 4:00am and a guy in a 4WD ahead of me turned on his Uber-light rig that turned night into day and had angled lights that showed the bush on either side - for roo spotting. Then he hit the gas and powered away at what looked like 130km/hr. His fucking lights startled a wild boar which of course raced out onto the road just in time to hit my vehicle.
lljkstonefish
That's a poor time of day to be going about your business, but there's never a bad time to leave Mt Isa.
ivymantled69
You’re right - would have been smarter to wait till after dawn, but I was on a tight schedule.
MissDeeMeanor
When have no plans for ever entering a parking garage again.
tarataqa
yes, when have.
HCBailly
Maultasche
SquirrelWithATophat
The cops can't write you a citation if they can't see anymore.
mckjm2
I will make it legal!
adrianontherocks
The problem nowadays is that most headlights are too bright/angled incorrectly even without the high beams being on
SunBrolem
The LEDs we use aren't too bright, per se- Its that all the light comes from one tiny point, so the source is very concentrated, making it appear much brighter than it is.
5ynic
I feel like the cops used to enforce this and at some point in the '00s they stopped
MisterLemons
Not their problem.
NotSomoneElse68
And American trucks are ridiculously huge so that the headlights shine into a normal car even if they're adjusted right.
HelloDarknessMyOld
How else do you see my middle finger in the dark.
NotSomoneElse68
Fuck, they can see an X-ray of your middle finger.
oldguyexlurker
It's installation angle or poor beam angle more than lumen output or CCT. Even with very bright, high CCT lamps, LEDs CAN be designed with excellent cut-off beams so that there's far less glare produced outside the designed are to be lit than with traditional Halogen lamps and reflectors. Execution and installation, however, frequently stink.
bryst
Was driving the other night, and the car behind me was at least 1/4 mile behind me and it was still casting a shadow of my head in my sun-visor. Was so fucking annoying.
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Right? Most don't know you have to adjust your headlights to a proper angle.
reflecter
Then please explain why in the world there often is a dark shadow in front of my car when others get behind me?
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
You drive like a grandma going to church on Sunday? /s
ballsoutflyer
You're not alone on this. Optometrists are going "hey, what the fuck, carmakers?"
https://www.aop.org.uk/ot/professional-support/health-services/2024/01/11/">e">https://www.aop.org.uk/ot/professional-support/health-services/2024/01/11/rac-calls-for-study-into-headlight-glare
https://lightaware.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Vehicle-headlight-glare.pdf
MySushi
It is more than that. LED light clusters are brighter than old halogen lights. If you opt to use them, you should also be changing out the shell, which would have a higher opacity, to allow less of the light to pass through, but they change out only one component, thus making it everyone else's problem. Unregulated market comes back to bite you sometimes
channelranger
yeah the brightness is a serious issue with all public lights these days. Headlights, stoplights, streetlights- I feel like we switched over to LEDs which can produce so much more light, and then just didn't modulate them for the purposes we wanted them for at all. Everything is so fucking bright these days, it's ridiculous, street lights should not be painfully bright.
marsgoose
When we switched to LEDs, not just on cars, but everywhere, manufacturers decided that any kind of glare management is no longer necessary. If a lamp is done right, you shouldn't be able to directly see the emitter on it, but on most LEDs you do. Car lights peaked with HIDs, which coincidentally happened in mid 2000's when pretty much all car tech peaked.
sohowsgoing
That's not completely true. I know at least Audi (and probably other non-US) manufacturers have glare reducing LED headlights that will sense other vehicles and turn off the specific LEDs to avoid dazzling the oncoming drivers.
That said, at least in the US, regulators move at a snail's pace for newer technology
pallemanns
Like if any sensing of that type for headlights ever worked good.
marsgoose
I'm aware of tech you are talking about, it was legalzied in US too in 2022, a bit late but hey. Tesla seems to be the first US manufacturer I know of to offer it. However this is not what I'm talking about, they are still minmaxing brightness, making lights with tons of glare but just shutting off a segment of them when an oncoming car is detected.
marsgoose
The option for adaptive headlights is around $4k-$6k from these manufacturers, which is coincidentally how much my entire car is worth. So unless they get drastically cheaper, this wont scale. That would turn minor fender bender into potentially 5 figure service note.
unapologetic05
There needs to be an upgrade for the pickups driving 2 inches from my rear bumper, burning the retinas from my sockets with their headlights aimed at my rear view mirror.
koops
Lasers. Serious lasers=blind. My opto told me a horror story about a bro and sis that had a “staring onto a laser the longest” competition.
rbudrick
You can try to aim the mirror back at them. Also, violence.
cttypo
My brother in law was an airplane mechanic. He somehow mounted an airplane landing light on his rear deck of a 67 Chevy impala, come up with high beams, you got nailed with that light. Only for a couple seconds. This was the mid 70s, remember it like yesterday.
SquirrelWithATophat
elohiim
Do you ever toggle the switch on the rear view? It helps create a reflection that still makes you aware of what's behind you but not as bright.
Filolial
My rearview mirror has an automatic dimming when an bright light shines in it, it works amazingly well. But sadly that isn't the case for my side mirrors though...
SonicTheBedhog
I aim my mirrors back at them.
jenrenea
Yessss!!! Me too, and came here to suggest just that
MacklinBurtMacklinFBI
NordicusMaximus
That’s what the lever on the bottom of the mirror is for, and has been for, for over 60 years. Either that, or your mirror is newer and auto dimming.
Skevoid
Too bad that you're still blinded from both side mirrors.
bryst
Problem really is side mirrors. I have to shift them out or in if someone is following close with hella bright lights or on my side.
todaytomorrowwillbeyesterday
Auto dimming?
NordicusMaximus
The new mirrors have lcd shading in them, and a light sensor facing rearwards, so if bright lights are behind you, they auto dim. They’ve been around for about 25 years now.
Silved
Wildly guessing but most cars do not have that fancy set up.