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jubberton
That correlation is based on a study from Karpinski which has some methodological issues. I wouldn't take it as gospel.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
Yall keep equating the insanity of the entirely made up human society with actual reality is what's depressing.
UserMCP
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CirB
I'd also add Alastair Reynolds
HollerinAtTheVoid
Quagalcheck
arocktrucker777
Every time I learn something new I get a little more pissed at the world
GreatPapalotl
*Sighs in Clinical Psychology*
njlecuKing
Can we stop perpetuating this story? Truly bad for morale; not great to tell depressed people "there's no hope". As someone who lived with>
njlecuKing
MDD my whole life and finally found the right meds- yes the shitty things are real, but the volume on them can be turned down. Now I see>
njlecuKing
the good far outweighs the shitty.
TreeOhhTree
Ancient texts already indicate life is suffering, this is nothing new. How will you escape from pain if you perpetually romanticize it?
ItsBuckarooBanzai
ImOPsMom
I JUST WANNA DIIIIEE
thekeyofe
https://youtu.be/eKBbUdfvwrU
TheNewYorkWolf
Excellent
ThrowAwayAcct0000
"Life is pain. Anyone who says different is selling something."
HisBubbliness
I often wonder what it's like to be so incredibly stupid that every day would seem like a brand new adventure.
SleepinessOfTheBanana
I am a math major. When people ask me why I don't fear math, I tell them there are much more reasons to fear life than to fear math.
TwoSpeedTony
ToriJoanne
Well that's a lot of ass
LokJok
This explains WestWorld.
RoseHarmonic
The antidote is purpose. I hold that live lived well is axiomatically good. If the universe is put to the purpose of living life well, then-
RoseHarmonic
-we will have made the most of existence. Life in the universe will have been long and satisfied before the end.
RoseHarmonic
Increasing the odds of such a future is a purpose good enough for me. I'll keep going even if the entire world falls to Fascism and -
RoseHarmonic
-climate change
SuckMyFatOne
So should I tell my therapist how brilliant I am then to switch things up?
Deleteded
Who told you that you have a fat one?
SuckMyFatOne
When you're the biggest in 4 counties the word travels
notacobra
This is true up to a point, there are plenty of extremely intelligent people who are very happy and find satisfaction in the mind.
JenniferMcPherson
What? That's not true at all. Depression is plagued with mental filters that overestimate the bad and underestimate the good.
icommentwithsteveharvey
Correlation isn't causation. The cause of depression, anxiety, etc is almost always trauma. They are healthy trauma responses of the body
SantaFeSuperChief
I'm actually amazed to see this comment, this point of view, despite how accurate it is, is extremely niche these days. Thank you for this.
LastoftheLillyCreatures
psych here: no, it isn't trauma, because trauma has a highly specific definition which shouldn't be watered down. But yes, they often 1/2
LastoftheLillyCreatures
are (formerly functional) coping with shitty situations including late stage capitalistic hellscapes. 2/2
Someshithead241
I wonder what my trauma was.
browsererror
Understanding reality.
icommentwithsteveharvey
Time to see a licensed professional. Not all trauma is "big" trauma
Someshithead241
Huh, you mean like lots of little ones?
ChurlishSunshine
Turns out mine built up over the years with all the times my mom told me everyone (dad and sister included) talked shit about me except her.
Someshithead241
I didn't need to be told that. That's just... normal in my family, and they do it right to your face. To the point that, and I recently
icommentwithsteveharvey
https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-no-evidence-that-depression-is-caused-by-chemical-imbalance-or-low-serotonin-levels/
mity0k23
It does not indicate that at all. Logical fallacy: begging the question.
onewallpaperaweek
DeeDoubleYu
Lmao what edgy teen bullshit is this?
HeyZeusPourMeAnotherGlass
Well, to be fair... *Gestures vaguely*
FullTimeDisaster
Nah, understanding reality in general doesn't make a mind want to destroy itself, we have constructed a very specific reality to understand
SeeYaLaterMethamphetaGator
But It's not just about the reality that's been constructed. It's the reality of everything. Existentialism isn't dreading taxes.
FullTimeDisaster
I was in no way talking about taxes—a wealthy class further entrenching power, growing fascism, broad scale environmental collapse 1/2
FullTimeDisaster
There is indeed a tragic beauty to the temporary nature of existence (on all scales) but that is less depression inducing IMHO
seniorcitizenfightclub
That is why ignorance is bliss
TA2019
OR everyone wakes up and realizes they can change things in masses. And that way no one has to be ignorant to be bliss
Djkb6718
I just want juicy steak, don't tell me about silly code.
q2grapple
God damn you Cipher
TChallaVanDam
keystotheairlock
And why so, SO many of us are regular drug and alcohol users. We know too much, but can't afford therapy
theworldcouldbeflat
Not really this post is bogus. I'm bipolar and some of us are manic(anxiety) and some of us are depressed. Bipolar tends to make you smart.
zonide
only if youre dumb enough to believe that
shatterspike1
Ignorant that this is the opposite of true. Suicide is NEGATIVELY correlated with Intelligence.
babylon5wars
We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.
OldSchoolNewRules
Ignorance was bliss. You dont realize it until its over.
BatsArentBugs
And drugs!!
Melonfish
Conservatives are in fucking nirvana it seems.
Rockafella83
They are, for the wrong reasons
Thorketil
Nirvana would mean no more greed, no more control, no more desires, but being one with nothingness. Doesn't sound much like Conservatives.
solopeace
They can be greedy, authoritarian, and have unending desires and be in paradise, what makes their world suck is all the hate.
magicrhombus
There's ignorance which is the lack of information = bliss. Then there's ignorance which is the presence of misinformation = rage.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
It isn't understanding too much about reality, it is about understanding how much we fucked up what could be a great thing
FreudIndianNipSlip
And how useless our daily existence is in the large scheme of things, probably because humanity can only wage war instead of building things
Sipmonsnsn
Or rather understanding that the mechanisms in place are too vast for the average human to change even tho it might only take a single try
IHadDreamsWhereAreTheyNow
Can you see the blacken seams of infinite eternity drapes over everything from every possible direction at every moments. Cant touch it?! ;(
SomeHippy
The lost potential. If only people acted here, if only they'd realized how they're repeating mistakes, and so on. It gets to the point one..
SomeHippy
Wants to give up and run away from the eventful times and go to a time that's boring
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
I suppose that also depends greatly on your aspirations and what you tie your feeling of self-worth to
letspretendthisisntmyusername
I think he was referring to humanity as a whole. That thought alone depresses me all the time. What we could have accomplished. Without God.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
It seems to me that his point is with greater intelligence and realism the greater drive for self destruction. So why is there such a long
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
History of constant war and destruction while the majority were ignorant and living a fantasy of gods and demons?
HasteTheFool
Talking of Demons, they are fallen Angels. A bad ant isn't very different from a good ant. Perhaps thoughts work alike?
Peacefullpotato
Are you a Russian writer?
DoomRandom
Yeah, thats not what depression was based on for me.
Peacefullpotato
No, this is having opinions. Depression is a sickness. It does not give you any super-clarity. Just a low amount of happy hormons.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
correlation not causation. I was choosing to ignore chemical imbalances since it also doesn't fit with the rest of the lines
Peacefullpotato
my bad, misread it first time.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
also an interesting question regarding this correlation would be what is that test and how might intelligence affect your perception of your
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
state. I was following a more philosophical route than biological. Mainly because I would disagree that human life is existential horror
RunanD
Yep! Positive nihilism exists and I daresay is common. So I don't think you can break your receptors simply by having a nihilistic outlook
Peacefullpotato
Thanks! Better said than my try!
RunanD
Positive nihilism being: "if nothing matters, enjoying life and being true to yourself has no downsides"
friendsofsandwiches
There's a REASON they call them 'happy' drugs. who the fuck would take 'sad' drugs?
ShamaOA
Lithium is a mood stabiliser used to even out periods of mania, including the bi-polar "high." I guess it'd qualify.
friendsofsandwiches
sooo...I should suck on batteries?
LitchLitch
because they put you to sleep
3Davideo
*looks at alcohol*
RevolutionOnHerLips
he's right you know.gif
Peacefullpotato
No...depression is a sickness...not some extralucid shit. We don't see the real world...being sad =/= depression.
LitchLitch
consider the possibility that depression is NOT actually a sickness, but an alternative neurotype, like being autistic
DoomRandom
No.
Peacefullpotato
It is not. We know clearly that it is caused by unbalanced neural hormones. And so your fantasies about "all autistics are sooooo smart!!!"
LitchLitch
and you shouldnt project delusions about autistic folk on other people
LastoftheLillyCreatures
psych here. Source for that first claim?
Peacefullpotato
stop*
LitchLitch
keep up with the science https://theconversation.com/depression-is-probably-not-caused-by-a-chemical-imbalance-in-the-brain-new-study-186672
jet100a
They think it's possibly a lack of neurogenesis that causes depression. Just because it may not be due to a hormone imbalance doesn't mean i
jet100a
It's some kind of alternate way of thinking that should be accepted especially when it brings so much suffering. I don't think depression sh
Peacefullpotato
"probably" is the key word.
LitchLitch
you were the one that said " We know clearly"
SnaccAttacc
Oh boy, here comes another rousing rendition of "if you aren't depressed then you're either stupid or ignorant"
gearsmith
You're forgetting the other two options, drugged up or dead.
Mitchz95
shatterspike1
God forbid these people not post their counterfactual masturbatory "my depression means I'm so SMART" bullshit.
3Davideo
Why, do you disagree with that statement?
SnaccAttacc
I sure do, good observation
3Davideo
Are you in the exclusive group where the status quo actually works to your benefit?
SnaccAttacc
Dunno, what group would that be?
3Davideo
Rich cis straight white male.
Idonotkillpeoplethatismyleastfavoritethingtodo
Fuck yeah! Thanks for saying it. The "I am depressed and special" circle jerk is getting out of hand. It's a mental illness not a cool quirk
ThatTransformersDude
And usually the people making those "observations" waste themselves away not lifting a finger to help fix shit, just trying to look smarter
Aysling
... do people really think that? I could maybe see that with being anxious, but depression is a chemical imbalance. Maybe temp depression
SnaccAttacc
Yep, I see people say things to that effect on here all the time. Check the downvoted reply on this comment
Aysling
from reading news. W/o drugs I'm a danger to myself. Deffinitly not a cool quirk, but I do make jokes about it at times.
duffman3335
Or.. you just don't care. Gotta account for you sociopaths...
banz111
Or absurdists
Sethiusalpha
Hey, I'm depressed too, man. Sociopathy doesn't mean I don't care about me, it just means I don't care about you.
duffman3335
Fair enough...
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Look man, I just want to know that my brain problems are actually helpful, it doesn't have to be true
SnaccAttacc
Being depressed isn't ever "helpful". I don't mean to sound disparaging, I just hate this circlejerk of romanticizing mental illness
BroadFjord
100% agree with you, this shit is harmful and keeps people from seeking help
ChurlishSunshine
I have a coworker who keeps flirting with me by making jokes about his depression. Like mofo, I'm in therapy, I'm watching my diet, I'm 1/2
ChurlishSunshine
doing whatever I have to so I don't end up swallowing another bottle of Tylenol. This isn't funny, it's not cute, and we're not going to 2/3
ChurlishSunshine
bond about how much you hate your life every morning.