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Rauda Athif, 21, a Muslim Maldivian woman who made the cover of Vogue India, was murdered on March 29th
“Modeling is a hobby rather than a career for me, since I’m studying to become a doctor,” she told the fashion magazine at the time.
She was found hanged in her dorm room at Islami Bank Medical College in Rajshahi, Bangladesh. The government who performed the autopsy, and who are trying to avoid a crisis, ruled it suicide. Her family say she was murdered and it was staged to look like suicide.
The bruise marks found around her neck, most likely from strangulation, were deemed "birthmarks" by the autopsy.
Her brother Rayyan said the extremists were angry after she defended people who were bullied over their religious beliefs
“There have been a series of murders in Bangladesh which have been staged to look like suicides, and Islamic extremists have been suspected to be behind these atrocities,” he said.
An Atheist blogger was hacked to death with a machete at another university near by, back in 2015.
“[Rauda’s] style of clothing was branded as ‘immodest’ and ‘un-Islamic’ even though she adhered to the dress code in the college premises by wearing a veil covering her face.”
“But she was criticized for wearing jeans and was repeatedly told she couldn’t wear it at the Muslim college – which has a lot of extremist connections and support. Other students have also been subjected to this type of bullying.”
A week prior to her murder, Rauda contacted her family one night saying her drink had been spiked with sleeping pills.
Rauda “always looked happy,” according to Mahmuda Begum, superintendent of the women’s dorm. Begum said, “It is hard to believe she would commit suicide.”
Pamela Geller, a free-speech activist and critic of Islamic supremacism, wrote:
"Where’s Vogue’s coverage of this? Where is the march for women living under the boot of Shariah?
Feminists and women’s fashion magazines continue to pay tribute to this most vicious ideology. The garb of oppression has become the new symbol of the Western feminist movement. It’s analogous to the swastika becoming the icon of Jewish identity."
Source: http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/04/vogue-cover-model-murdered-for-not-wearing-islamic-clothing/
hogeyegrex
You had me until you referenced Pam G. She is so consistently wrong and hateful that she tarnishes anything connected with her.
kojenk
Wasn't she suspected to be killed by her room mate? who had done iffy things in the past in relation to her?
kojenk
motivations were probably sociological though. Terrible.
kojenk
also that "drink" was fruit juice btw.
flacoloco
Religion is a sack shit excuse to end somebody's life
vegeta420gokublazerbieber
To be honest though, if the person believes their religion, the word of God should be taken literally, shouldn't it? I mean it's the word of
flacoloco
wait, what?
wegotabadassoverhere
Those stupid fucks.
LimitDoesNotExist
Cruel fucks, not stupid.
SextusPompeiusMagnusPius
Nah, I think it's fair to label as mentally deficient anyone who believes murder is justified because of the victim's fucking clothes.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Cruel AND stupid fucks
yojimbo83
Provide a true reliable source, i am only finding BS Right-wing sites... oh im sorry please provide a "fake news site" (understand now?).
lookbeneathyou
Believe what you may, just don't be a cunt. RIP.
vegeta420gokublazerbieber
But if the thing you believe calls for stuff like this? You read any of the biblical texts?
lookbeneathyou
I haven't a clue about biblical texts, but what i do know is murder makes your a cunt.
tupacshomie
Not saying it's false, but I'm just gonna say that reads like a whooooollee lot of hearsay.
90ina65
Her eyes are gorgeous
BigSnicker
FYI, it's completely fake news. The Russian anti-muslim crowd is trying to play you, you can look it up. This is how they elect Le Pen.
cryptkeeper01
Everything about her is gorgeous :)
Strongharbour432
Certainly piercing
Juggalotuz04
Correction, were gorgeous.
Magicflutefreddie
killer eyes. What a knock out.
sowillo
Lauren German from lucifer
SteveMND
*were :(
SouthtownZ
You can still get one on eBay.
kah929
Fucks wrong with you
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Gallows humour is used by some people to deal with horror, anxiety and depression. Deal with it.
freezing00k
TIL
HelloGreg69
Branwdodeliveryboy
RepresentativeOfNorway
This
Askingforafriend37
TheDon850
Come on people. This is hilarious. Don't downvote this guy
DankLinguine
JamarJamalJamalJackson
There are some cultures I think the world would be better off with. The radical Islamic culture is one of them.
kingrandom
Can't we just get rid of any and all religions? it's about time we stop doing things because of fictive gods.
MackdomblesDarbleChaiseBarga
I am guessing you meant 'without'?
whitewater0034
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/54820330.jpg
macthelost
We would be better off when ALL people stop believing their magical invisible friend tells them to do stupid shit.
Dogalicious
Amen to that. The sooner we come to terms with being intergalactic citizens the better. Provided we don't self destruct in the meantime.
boobcat
Murderous Christians who get away with it should be first. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=775_1235600720
Dogalicious
A loose unit is a loose unit, irrespective their religion. They set their will against the advancement of our species, for the sake of ego.
szepasszony
When they're following scripture (like the part that says disobedient children should be killed) are they really 'loose units'?
Dogalicious
Is someone who consults an ancient catalogue of Chinese whispers and then proceeds to murder his child, is a loose unit? Yes, yes he is.
reddocs
Everything radical and excluding
anubisfike
I think you don't even have to say radical. Islamic culture, period.
JamarJamalJamalJackson
*without
Wyndynwyre
radical anything, really. It's okay to believe in certain things, it's not okay to kill people over them.
Javertoldfriend
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
This
mylastaccountgotbanned
What about radical skateboarding?
Senguie
Skate fast and eat ass
Dogalicious
Dude...radical anything is a curse. Fundamentalist christians and radical jews are just as bad....and they all continue to enable each other
RepostSadistic
No, they are not. They don't rack up a huge death count. Stop the false equivalency.
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NotTheMamaNotTheMama
Yes it's true. But we came out of the dark ages and they refuse to do it. We don't go on crusades anymore. They still have the same 1/2
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
Ignorant way of thinking. So you cannot compare both religions like that. It was a shamefull moment of christian history but it's over.
raidleadergutts
Lol maybe you should, considering how crusades were done to kick invading muslim hordes out of Europe.
crcinau
#factcheck
matsimoko
The source page seems fishy as fuck, googling "Rauda Athif" brings up nothing in the major news outlets. What a weird coincidence!
OdinsMightyBeard
Why do bad things have to happen to good people?
tarantularaptor
Because bad things are taught to people in the guise of religion
MysticShield
If I had to take a guess, because it's easier to target good people than bad people? Which of course suck majorly.
JockMcSting
They don't 'have to'. They happen to good and bad people. Unfortunately.
OdinsMightyBeard
Of course they don't 'have to'. It just really sucks when they happen to people who don't deserve it. For all I know she could have been 1/2
JockMcSting
Of course it really sucks when they don't deserve it. However, 'deserving something' is a concept fraught with confusing contradictions.
OdinsMightyBeard
lol I'd love to continue this fascinating and intelligent conversation but I made a simple statement. Being targeted and murdered for 1/2
OdinsMightyBeard
Others beliefs is ridiculous and extremely unfortunate nothing more nothing less. Bad things happen to everyone.
OdinsMightyBeard
A terrible human being. From this info it sounds like she was just trying to live her life. An death unfortunately fell upon her.
cesarnero
because we always think good think will always happen to good people.
ratfaceddog
wat
cesarnero
im drunk
Promethianfire
Either it's because God is all powerful and an asshole, or there is no god and some people are assholes.
rouverius
nb4 "All religion is bad" comments... uh, nope .. too late.
wadatahmydamie
WAY too late. Neckbeards tend to come out more for LNI.
vegeta420gokublazerbieber
Most of the religions seem to be a net positive on their flock and community. I'm an atheist. Did some sleuthing into the core of Islam..
thevortexmaster
This has nothing to do with religion. Her roommate is most likely the killer
Solsjo
Yeah, Pamela Geller isn't a "critic". She's a complete nut job.
belikeapandaeatingataco
I'm studying in a government college (living in a significant Muslim country) and I really hate those rules like no yoga pants for sports
belikeapandaeatingataco
as they think that showing the shape of your legs is inappropriate etc and some even said these girls should be raped cause they deserve it
flaccidhope
Well, the whole "female dress invites rape" is a lie spread all over the world.
belikeapandaeatingataco
Sadly that's true. Recently what happened here is that a senator said that it's fine for a 9y/o to be married to a rapist who raped her
flaccidhope
Wow. Never underestimate some people's stupidity.
belikeapandaeatingataco
as she is "physically" ready. Caused a backlash but he didn't seem apologetic.
raider111111
Islam is a religion of peace.
AussieNotNamedBruce
Has anyone recently reminded America how much oil is in the bodies of Islamic extremists?
smoothoprater
There is no oil in Bengladesh...
ImSomethingFabulous
AussieNotNamedBruce
*Groans*
MerToo
Shh, nowhere near as much as in Pauline Hanson's supporters.
GadenKerensky
Found the Aussie.
maat24
Ah where are the feminist in this shit? I guess man spreading, much bigger issue.
Brionyrae
You say as you continue to do nothing to help anyone ever.
Cheomesh
Well, I'm here, being revolted. Should I HALO drop into India or something?
SHUTUPASSDICKS
This is not a women's issue. Obviously men have an issue with womens clothing, so why don't you fucking solve it your fucking selves /1
SHUTUPASSDICKS
Why is it upon feminists to call this out? Why should we do the dirty work for men? This is other men acting like animals, you solve this 1.
justlurkinfornow
Feminists are outspoken about this. We just choose to not misappropriate this argument as a stick to beat all of Islam with.
Peregrine2976
Being fucking murdered, dipshit. Pay attention.
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theresgarlicinthatnebula
And we never talk about the brutal patriarchy of the middle east? Please, bitch.
Kittenswithasteamedcoat
Literally being killed you utter shitgibbon, re-read the fucking post. But I guess you're too caught up in your own personal issues.
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YourMumKnowsMe
Did he fucking say western?
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YourMumKnowsMe
So only western men fucking manspread?
wadatahmydamie
Bam. Right to the strawman, you fucking tool.
maat24
Wow simple cunts lol omg. I understand now. Thank you. Ur not smart stop "internetting" right away. Think of sterilization. Right away
wadatahmydamie
SantaPanda
shedooooooooo
Feminists DID care about this. Problem is, no one but them care about women's issues.
only90skidswillgetthis
Nah they do when they get to use it to show how barbaric "those" people are.
shedooooooooo
The only thing barbaric is the way men like you shoot down women fighting to end shit like this. W
shedooooooooo
Women* in the the west want to be equally as important as men. Yet they're still called whining cunts for this if SOME women have it worse.
only90skidswillgetthis
You're projecting. I'm a feminist but the only feminist posts on Imgur are related to criticizing Islam
zflazeda
feminists would rather show openness to diversity/opposition to conservatives, than to point out how Islamic dress code is oppressive
LoTRFanatic42
That's a pretty big Strawman you're setting up there.
zflazeda
how?
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Because saying feminists have nothing to say about Islam is like saying conservatives have nothing to say about the free market.
itisntisit
You're right. Lets force women to dress how we think they should dress. That'll learn 'em
zflazeda
Telling women the way they currently dress gives power to their oppressors than to them is forcing them how to dress. Gotcha
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Pamela Geller's right. We should invade the middle east and forcibly convert them all to something else, maybe Christianity.
itisntisit
Assuming women need to be told that is a great start to empowering them
armitagecasemolly
And what exactly are you doing to help? Instead you attempt to divert blame onto others through self-righteous bullying.
maat24
Making aware we need our women to pull head out ass procedure and use their rainbow focus power on real problems.
armitagecasemolly
Yes please continue telling women what it is you need them to do for you. Your contribution is so needed and appreciated.
maat24
True women will hear. Our culture is under attack, don't need a divide. Need both women and men to at least c the threat come 2 reality
zflazeda
Not for him, for themselves. Pretending the biggest problem facing them are white first-world problems while ignoring Muslim women's plight
lambaroo
so much hypocrisy in this comment. claim to care about rights of muslim women, but look at comments. all you did was stir islamophobia. 1/3
Kittenswithasteamedcoat
We have problems at home too. Feminist clinics in my town were the ONLY place to get sexual healthcare.
veloocheet
There are a lot of Bangladeshi feminists fighting for their rights
veloocheet
Including this woman
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Why would feminism stop at your own border... where are the western feminists to comment on this?
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TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I'd be inclined to agree, if it weren't for the fact that western feminists are constantly defending Islam & calling its critics "racist".
veloocheet
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that there ARE feminists that care about this. Which the original comment didn't think
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I don't think that's what he meant. Everyone knows there are feminists in those oppressive countries, he clearly meant western feminists.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
While I'm sure there are some talking about it, for the most part western feminists can't shut up about how peaceful/non-oppressive Islam is
raidleadergutts
They're too busy sucking the cock of islam.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I'd normally say that's a bit much, but seeing as all they can do is silently downvote without any reply or rebuttal, I guess you're right.
AccioCatGIFs
As you can see its dangerous to be a feminist in Muslim countries. Unfortunately very little can be done to help from the western world.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Bullshit, they could stop making up things to be offended by, stop defending Islam and actually talk about it's treatment of women for once.
LimitDoesNotExist
Allow women refugees who are fleeing from these guys. That's one thing people in west can do.
flaccidhope
And that's the one thing imgur's keyboard warriors don't want to do.
AccioCatGIFs
And what happens to those who can't leave?
AccioCatGIFs
For most people then only thing that can be done is to lead by example. In time the east will reform. But it's dangerous to force the change
Svartlebee
So in the meantime we stand idly by while women get butchered and journalists imprisoned for writing freely.
Cyzyk
It can be dangerous, but if someone is going to die, I'd prefer it to be the clowns perpetuating stuff like this.
zflazeda
Well put, but we cannot stand idly by while thousands of people die, waiting for their culture to reform in due time.
NotWelcomehere
Riiiiiight, those same noble aspirations are why Daesh and others even exist, we put our hand in the hive...and were surprised we got stung.
RobertNAdams
Those weren't our aspirations at all. Countries do not have morals. They have interests. I'd wager that no country acts morally.
AccioCatGIFs
I mean yes you can promote strength in women but you'll see more news like this as a result. There is no right way to help. It's an ultimatu
NERDRAGEohacat
They're not quiet in just Muslim countries. Back in 2009 a S.Korean actress' suicide highlighted their entertainment industry's practice of
NERDRAGEohacat
whoring actresses out to major investors, but none of the women's rights group seemed to pay attention. Instead they were fighting for the
NERDRAGEohacat
rights of virtual female characters in Japan and pushing heavily for censorship.
BastardCountryIndia
No doubt Islam is a Peaceful religion
AssistantToTheRegionalManagerDwightSchrute
I know a lot of people in the US might not like it here lately, but I am truly happy religious prersecution was never a fear for me.
usersubbordercontrol
This should be some type of Malala thing again. She should be known.
raidleadergutts
Lol she said that if people criticise islam, muslims will continue to kill them.
Ziferian
But muh holy buk.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Fuck Bangladesh, fuck Islam. im an x muslim and i confirm that it isnt a religion of peace.
supremepooperscooper
Can you confirm that you believe everything you read from hate sites without fact checking?
wadatahmydamie
Sure it is. Over a billion practice it peacefully, and a tiny fraction of a minority are violent. You just found a new faith - Fedoratheist
raidleadergutts
Lol nope. You obviously know exactly NOTHING about the history & origins of islam to claim that it's a religion of peace.
wadatahmydamie
As opposed to Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and a few other faiths. Maybe learn, THEN speak.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Buddy i still live in a muslim country. My name is mohammed what do 7 think would happen if i come out telling everyone im an atheist
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
The religion of peace would do that thing they do, that SJWs for some wierd reason never want to acknowledge.
wadatahmydamie
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Exhibit A ^^
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Oh piss off, there's nothing wrong with criticising a religion you degenerate cunt.
wadatahmydamie
The moderates would leave you alone, and terrorists would be just as likely to kill you as if you were still a moderate Muslim.
raidleadergutts
Yeah no, the "moderates" as you call them would beat him up or even murder him.
wadatahmydamie
Terrorists thank you for your recruiting efforts. "Those people I've never met are savages and murderers! Get the gas chambers ready!"
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1-Not true according to statistics. There are currently over 1.2 billion muslims in the world at the moment, with ~480,000 alone living in-
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3-established government and not counting individual families or those living in France under neighborhood Sharia. Taking polls from a few-
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6-is about a third of muslims who believe in the violent, oppressive form of Islam over anything. That does not make them violent as-
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7-individuals, but it does make them more prone to allow honor killings, Fatwas and executions of innocent people for apostasy, gays, etc.
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4-sources (pew, politifact) between 85% and 99% in those particular countries approve and favor strict Sharia law as their official law.
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2-areas which practice Sharia law, the type which allows things like the image to happen. That's ONLY the countries which practice it as a-
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5-That is over a third of muslims alone in those countries, with more outside that I can't do the math for to figure out. Basically there-
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1.1- *1.5 jesus the numbers change fast, and *480 million, but that might have changed too.
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8- I welcome any rebuttal without downvoting, and would be happy to see other sources and arguments.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
I totally agree with your point and even the so called silent ones i mean those scare me the most they wont say or do anything if someone
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Practices those so called not islamic practices theyll silently walk the fuck away
Mangana
I have read the whole Quran, and its overwhelming focus is on forgiveness, peace and respect for mankind, not violence. 'F' hate, not Islam.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Did i forget to mention that my name is Mohammed and i still live in a muslim country.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Ive been reading it since childhood im 32 years old i used to pray 5 times a day attend friday prayers the whol shibang. Youre lying http:/
pancakeisi
Preach, same here
Mangana
Sorry for late reply. I disagree with you. Would love to chat outside this platform. It’s hard with limited characters.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
iNeverCouldGetTheHangOfThursdays
Don't know which book you own but it's not the Quran. Read it myself and I was shocked.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Is arabic your language
Mangana
Sorry late reply, Would enjoy&learn from a discussion about what you learned about entire message of Quran, DM me if you’d like to discuss.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Any who it is shocking though and scary
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Dont understand why youve been down voted heres an upvote mate +1
vegeta420gokublazerbieber
Are you Muslim? If you're lying to defend your religion, whatever. If you're just trying to be PC, you're the worst.
Mangana
Sorry late reply. Assuming I’m either lying or being PC? I’m neither, I simply understand the overwhelming message of Quran to be of peace.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
He is full of shit either way.
Mangana
I disagree with you about your perspective of the Quran, but certainly don’t believe a differing view point makes you “full of &$@#”.
perpendiculartriangle
Let me tell you why this story is fake as shit
HenryDorsettCase
damn, i hate these /a/r3BAK
trollsack
Internet. You dangerous.
fattytunadouche
Seriously. As soon as I saw the name Pamela Geller, who is a complete nut, and wnd.com, something is obviously bullshit here.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
But how else can i shit on straw man feminists who never critique islam?
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Thank you, I had a look myself and couldn't see anything relating to extremism apart from tabloid headlines from the brothers comment
perpendiculartriangle
She was found hanged in her dorm room. Initial investigation determined that it was suicide.
raidleadergutts
Lol it says the doctor who did the autopsy ruled that the strangulation marks around her neck as birth marks. It's a cover-up.
perpendiculartriangle
Well, http://en.mihaaru.com/nothing-unusual-discovered-in-maldivian-models-death-police/
perpendiculartriangle
But her father disagrees and there is some valid reasons to suspect her roommate.
Xsiah
Could her roommate have done this because of their radical beliefs though?
perpendiculartriangle
Who previously drugged Raudha with sleeping pills.
perpendiculartriangle
Her family however didn't site an exact motive http://en.mihaaru.com/maldivian-models-death-a-well-planned-murder-family/
perpendiculartriangle
The only person who brought up this radical Islam nonsense is her 18 year old brother speaking to The Sun without a shred of evidence.
perpendiculartriangle
There is absolutely nothing that connects her death to Islamic fundamentalism than shitty Islamophobic sites
perpendiculartriangle
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/father-of-maldivian-model-accuses-her-indian-friend-of-murder-1679966
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vesuviusfurnace
The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long
Cheomesh
I suppose she burned so very brightly.
StrangelyCalm
Unless it's made of a different type of wax, why can't it burn as long? The candle was snuffed out because of jealous, less bright candles.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
I looked into this story. I've yet to see any evidence linking her death to Islamic extremism. Looks very likely it was the roommate
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
and police in Bangladesh are just inept, particularly towards crime involving women.
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Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Lol, yeah sure. A pretty models roommate murdered her because he was an Islamic extremist. First case of it's kind in existence but still
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Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
When you hear hooves think horses, not extemists
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
What about donkeys?
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
seems really likely
jefjac2003
I am an atheist who has Muslim friends and believes that this doesn't represent all Muslims I know and also condemn this horrific act.
LiterallyYourMom
Well yeah, most Muslims live in Indonesia.
Svartlebee
Less than 10%.
LiterallyYourMom
Where are you getting your information? It's about 13% which is 205,000,000. Highest concentration in the world.
iamdanman
Sooo a sane person. I'm also an atheist and this is a common belief.
thelostg
I also believe this. But I do find it difficult to read articles like this and then give everyone the benefit of the doubt across the board.
CaptainAsshat
Wow, aren't you special. Only a retard thinks differently.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Im an atheist an x muslim, dont deviate from the problem. Islam is the problem plus fuck bangladesh.
pancakeisi
True, same here man. Islam is the damn problem man. And fuck pk too
BigSnicker
It's a Russian news source promoted by virulent Islamophobes. Make sure you have the facts before the condemning.
raidleadergutts
Islamophobia isn't a real thing. It's a term coined by the muslim brotherhood to demonize & censor anyone resisting islamization.
tarantularaptor
In Bangladesh the repercussions for being atheist or even outspoken against Islam is usually very harsh. Usually gets you killed
BigSnicker
Yes, and not far the Christians, Hindus and Buddhists love killing the Muslims, but I don't hear anyone saying they're evil religions.
BigSnicker
3/ If these forums succeed in getting the bigots to demonize all Muslims, we'll be committing far worse atrocities than 'they' are
BigSnicker
2/ All I'm saying is that these days it's important to wait for a reputable news source before getting the pitchforks and lynching someone
liamario
Of course it doesn't. It does represent a significant portion, mainly in the regions the religion was created though.
jefjac2003
Ohh, it does for every religion, in some region or the other, at some point or the other in it's history.
jefjac2003
No religion can claim a moral high ground.
ImAkuTheShapeShiftingMasterofDarkness
Yeah we recognized we were fucked up in the past. Now we have to recognize that Islam is fucked up right now.
zflazeda
Ok, but in 2017, where does it happen?
flaccidhope
Domestic violence against women and hate crimes against gays has ceased in the West? I must've missed the big party.
Svartlebee
In Pakistan a blogger was killed by her brother for being an Instagram model. All across the Islamic world this is regular.
jefjac2003
There are several kind of crimes. Killing someone for being a model and denying rights to someone just bcos are gay, might be different
jefjac2003
Crimes, but they are still are human rights violations. And I believe the second part still happens in most countries.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
That is the first step muslims need to do vondemn violent actions that represent ther religion part 2 is update the quran
corivscori
When do we demand Christians condemn the massacres committed by militias like Lord's Resistance Army and update the Bible?
BigSnicker
It's a Russian news source promoted by Islamophobes. The whole murder thing could be fake yet everyone on here wants blood.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
I didnt say dont do that but the topic raised now for this picture is islam so let us stay on topic
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Stop comparing to other religions
corivscori
Why? I'm not comparing Rastafarians and Sikhs. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are Abrahamic religions borne from the same vein.
BigSnicker
To condemn one religion while ignoring others would be hypocritical. His point is a fair one.
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Didnt say ignore. The case hese in this post was islam why go around being PC and bringing up other religions
Svartlebee
Other religions lack the same scope for terrorism that islam does.
thevortexmaster
So any real evidence that it wasn't a suicide? Or just hearsay? I mean I don't doubt that it wasn't
wadatahmydamie
I'd like a real source myself. World Net Daily is a hate site.
binksays
This is the world we live in, people downvoting someone looking for real facts.
zflazeda
Other than the bruises around her neck, no sign of depression, her drink being spiked, and harassment over her clothes? No real evidence :|
flaccidhope
This is the best source I could find: http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/father-of-maldivian-model-accuses-her-indian-friend-of-murder-1679966
flaccidhope
@OP should mention the main suspect is her female roommate who tried to kill her previously & currently no clear evidence for extremist link
thevortexmaster
Doesn't fit @op's motive to blame something Islamic for points
escalinci
Sure but it's being investigated, sure an inaccurate autopsy is a problem. But you're ascribing a motive to that and the murder prematurely.
shorr
Even if it wasn't a suicide (I haven't looked into this, can't say) you still kinda can't just assume the murderer
wadatahmydamie
Do you have a source on that which is credible?
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
The sun and the metro have the same story, which if anything makes it even less credible.
flaccidhope
Here, no definitive link w/ extremism: http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/father-of-maldivian-model-accuses-her-indian-friend-of-murder-1679966
thevortexmaster
1) Who said most likely strangulation? Not the people doing the autopsy and couldn't have been the rope? She claimed her drink was spiked.
thevortexmaster
2) plus depression isn't the only reason for suicide. I don't doubt it wasn't suicide but all those aren't solid hold up in court evidence
thevortexmaster
3) plus people get harassed for clothes all the time. Once again I don't doubt it could have been murder but we werent there. It's the net
zflazeda
It would make no sense for the autopsy to claim the bruises were birthmarks if they were bruises from hanging. Clearly they weren't.
azgrak
Committing a brutal murder because of your religious beliefs but not taking credit for it because you're a coward who knows it was wrong.
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flaccidhope
It was her female roommate apparently: http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/father-of-maldivian-model-accuses-her-indian-friend-of-murder-1679966
judgementryu
That is the world we live in though and people will continue to abuse religion as their reasons.
misho
There actually isn't anything implying religious motive in this murder (the roommate seems to have been the culprit).
Hugeberries23
or you don't want to be caught, so you can keep doing it...
Thekingofbeans
Not that I don't see your point, but hiding what you're doing doesn't mean you feel guilt. It means you know the government disapproves.
disinfectantrum
More so that you know the people who could do something about it "disagree" with it
Insomnia297
"It was the right thing to do, but if I take credit for it I'll be hunted down. Why can't people stop pushing their beliefs on me?"
Bystandr
The sad thing is modelling itself is not wrong by their rules either, since it is not an invitation to lewd behavior with her, yet they kill
Bystandr
her without trial or pause. This action is shameful, unjust and Godless.
kman2612
Lately in india there are cow vigilantes who have killed people who transport cattle in the name of religion. They're right wing Hindus.
MermaidLeggings
For a sec there I thought you meant cows were the vigilantes, and I was like.. Whoaaaaaaaaaa
flaccidhope
Seems like they have serious beef with cow-eating minorities.
ShadowbanMyAss
coward=religious person
freezing00k
Religious is at its basis good. It is when humans do bad things in the name of others we call the other bad as well.
freezing00k
Truly religious people are not cowards, but are exemplary societal people.
raidleadergutts
You're right in the first part. The second, not so much because they're the ones who tend to go around slaughtering people. They're filth.
freezing00k
This is why I say truly religious. I mean to say those that believe the good natures of religion are the ones that must be upheld.
TheRealJanine
Like the people who murdered that american Muslim judge?
picardsaysengayge
Right. That was my first thought reading this. And while we certainly should not attack modern Islam, the practitioners are fair game.
PhillipXavier
Any news on that? Last I heard it was ruled a suicide and there was no investigation...
BigSnicker
Ya, it's completely fake news guys. The Russian anti-muslim crowd is trying to play you, you can look it up. This is how they elect Le Pen.
BigSnicker
Ya, or it's fake news designed to make you hate Muslims. It comes from a Russian source and I haven't seen any credible sites pick it up.
jeffthewaffle
upvote for upsetting the hive
BigSnicker
Someone's gotta.... this shit is cray!
freezing00k
It could be fake. But considering the high amount of news about neighborhood killings and rape that happens. It's highly possible.
BigSnicker
Once you realize it's probably a Russian effort to build support for Trump+Le Pen types in Europe, it changes your perspective, doesn't it.
jeffthewaffle
not the murder that was fake but rather who commited the murder
raidleadergutts
"fake news designed to make you hate Muslims" Fake news would be trying to portray muslims as mostly good people.
BigSnicker
2/ What the heck do you think fake news is?? That liberals are making up lies about Muslims doing charity work? lol.
BigSnicker
Dude. Russia is trying to tear apart democracies by stoking racial resentment. You don't do that by portraying Muslims as good people!
raidleadergutts
Lol no they aren't, & I didn't say that they were portraying muslims as good people. That's done by the west.
TheEightfoldPath
"Hurr durr da roskies at it again." There's a world outside the west y'know.
BigSnicker
It is, the original source is Russian, look it up. Now WHY would a Russian outlet be the first to find this angle on a non-Russian, hmm?
BigSnicker
And we're discussing this in the Western news media. Funny that. hurr durr.
BigSnicker
4/ ... What do you think that LOOKS like to us?
TheEightfoldPath
Implying the US gubbermints aren't doing the exact same thing.
BigSnicker
I'll buy that the CIA is trying (and probably failing) with foreign gubmints, but no way it's happening domestically.
BigSnicker
3/ They've already tried to do the same thing for FAAAAR smaller issues. (e.g., Rice doing her job, IRA doing its job, etc.)
BigSnicker
2/ It'd be a massive scandal. If the Trumpers found out about it they'd use it to put half the Obama administration in jail.
BigSnicker
3/ When you hear that the Russians use thousands of people/bots to build anti-immigrant sentiment in Western countries on social media..
guantanamobayxx
Which I find hilarious because they're supposed to brag about the honor killings or God says they're a douche and can't get into heaven. :|
MyPalmsSpaghettiKneesWeakArmsSpaghettiTheresVomitOnMySpaghetti
According to whom, you and your evident expansive knowledge of "their" views and laws?
guantanamobayxx
No, according to the haddiths :| Not the koran. Excuse me for voicing a fact! I made a negative comment, I must be an ignorant bigot right?
flaccidhope
Honor killings are still illegal as they're counted as murder in Bangladesh so I don't see why they'd brag. It wasn't her family anyway.
melekoftd
Yeah because Yahweh is so fantastic about making moral decisions.
flaccidhope
Main suspect is her female roommate: http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/father-of-maldivian-model-accuses-her-indian-friend-of-murder-1679966
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Accusations like this ruin peoples lives, even when there is no tangible evidence. 3/3
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Thats conjecture. While its a horrible (obviously), her grieving father shouldn't be considered a reliable source of information. 1/
flaccidhope
All of OP's post is conjecture. This is at least the case the father filed in local court. It could be wrong and a genuine case of suicide.
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Accusations need more than his personal opinion (when he was 1000s of miles away) and hearsay. 2/2
StalkerSan
Where does it say that?
rashequilibrium
Spoiler alert - it doesn't.
guantanamobayxx
Spoiler alert - it does! There are a whole other set of writings aside the Koran, bro. The haddiths have some weird shit.
guantanamobayxx
of muslim society is dictated by, especially in places like Saudi Arabia, and they're fulla bullshit.
guantanamobayxx
Not in the koran, but the haddiths, writings imams 'claim' Muhammad said, written about a few centuries after his death. They're what a lot
StalkerSan
Okay, where?
guantanamobayxx
Not even exclusive to Islam. I'm pretty sure they're in the hadiths, but here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
guantanamobayxx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith
Agouti
It's almost like religion is just a way for violent psychopaths to justify their killings as moral.
SocoFox
Religion is just the scapegoat.
MadScientist356
R u serious with your bs right? Not everyone that kills is "religious" and certainly not psychopathic. Avg people can do so so much
Agouti
I could of phrased it better... I meant that people who kill for religion use religion as an excuse rather than a real reason.
therealVexed
when you make a reasonable comment then someones a douche to you and you just make another reasonable comment :) <3 @Agouti
AidanHunterCZ
That's what he said...He just added some of them use religion as an excuse.
Gastroboi
I remember once I read a comment and couldn't comprehend what was being expressed because I'm a dumbass - MadScientist356
ARandomBluePenguin
Hmm, sounds like something a MURDERER would say
mechanicalhemiola
do you finish reading the sentence before or after you reply?
uncreativeusernamex
That's not even remotely close to what he said.
WackyPaki
As a muslim turned agnostic, God Fucking Dammit stop killing people you twats!!!
BurgerNippz
He did it, he actually did it. He stopped terrorism
idoknowwhatcakedaymeansnow
As a Muslim turned atheist, I'm right there with you.
SinGirl75
I love the username!! I'm in the same boat - I no longer follow the religion. The more I think about religion, the less sense it makes.
saroq
As a christian turned agnostic I applaud your decision and your message to the twats.
Wallflower191
Hey fellow apostate!
Sparatan117
You know they can't do that... The Quran specifies which people are to be eliminated. You especially since you left Islam...
Itsokyoucansaythatiusedtobeamuslim
Yow wassup.
HOLAKOOO
agnostic. another word for pussy.
Ziferian
But muh holy book.
ps283206
As an atheist who turned Muslim, I agree.
MyPalmsSpaghettiKneesWeakArmsSpaghettiTheresVomitOnMySpaghetti
Story time??? (Pls)
idoknowwhatcakedaymeansnow
Am I able to hear your story please? I went the other way round.
BrownBubba
Your story is worth hearing as well.. pray tell
ps283206
In only 140 characters? PM me if you actually want to know
ragekritz
don't advertise that in some places...
Skuldi
Why not? Free speech motherfucker do you speak it? (that didn't work without swearing. I bet you're a nice person, or so.)
raidleadergutts
Why not? Because you'll get beaten or murdered. How are you incapable of comprehending this simple concept?
ragekritz
cause someone'll fucking beat you that's why. not saying you shouldn't do it entirely really but watch out man.
DafyddWillz
Because not all countries have free speech. If you said that you were a Muslim-turned-Agnostic in Saudi Arabia you'd get stoned to death.
WinstonsLeftTesticle
Free speech and free will to do what you want? Yeah the model did that as well...
ibespacejockey
Well make sure if you're in a Muslim country not to say that out loud...
acarlmac15772
Yeah... Death penalty
GadenKerensky
What turned you agnostic? Just asking, I wanna hear your story.
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transientgirl
Just rational thinking.
OrionRed
Every story is so different, yet they are all the same. It's never just one thing, it takes a LONG time.
HumanBeingOfEarth
LoveBigD
He woke up
NikoLorenzio
Probably same thing that made made most people turn agnostic/atheist. Maturing to the age of reason . Unfortunately most people don't matu
Nanaashi
Probably because Islamic cultures allow and cover up shit like this and many Muslims outside of the Western world are misogynists.
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Skuldi
I think they have a point you know.
ibespacejockey
Walks in the dark when suddenly I get hit with something "hey!!who was that??"
Falador
So he stopped believing in his religion because of the acts of others? Doesn't sound very intelligent to me.
ratpatoot1e
It's pretty reasonable. I'm not a part of any religion because they have the power to drive someone to murder to please the Sky Monster.
GadenKerensky
You know, I'm getting real sick of this new messaging system.
flaccidhope
Can't speak for him, but for me it's just that after learning science you outgrow religion & theism itself than anything specific w/ Islam.
raidleadergutts
I'm surprised at how no one has called you the usual buzzwords like "edgy" or "neckbeard" lol.
flaccidhope
Because I'm not being a douchey atheist or rather, anti-theist.
raidleadergutts
Yeah, I've seen them being said to people who weren't being douchey atheists or anti-theists as well.
Falador
But how? We know next to NOTHING about how the universe works. And we have no idea what prompted the Big Bang. Or what it came from.
JohnFloorwalker
Simply because you do not know something doesn't give you the right to believe something on bad evidence
flaccidhope
I could possibly be a non-literal believer, and say Adam&Eve, the virgin birth, miracles etc. are legends, but not a literal believer.
flaccidhope
Scientifically, it's easier to disprove something than to prove it. And we know enough now to disprove all religious creation myths.
bearhill2
Huge difference between theism and deism though. And read about god of the gaps fallacy.
HungryHubris
Well it's worth mentioning that while science is in the right direction it's uses math which is based on human concepts so nothing is really
HungryHubris
Bullet poof with science since we always find new things that break rules that we came up with
80percentlegs
Science shouldn't be viewed as a set of ever-changing facts, but as the process we use to understand the world, the universe, and ourselves.
The701
So we change the rules we thought were right. It's sill to continue with something you now know is wrong. Being able to change and improve
approvalguy
This is not how this works. This is not how any of this works.
plsmakemerelevant
Math is an extension of logic and reasoning; and therefore will continue to change with science and our understanding of the world.
HungryHubris
Human logic and reasoning is the key point I'm trying to make. I agree with you fully up to that point
BigSnicker
Yep! The fucking Christians too. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/30/quebec-mosque-shooting-two-students-arrested-gun-attack-mosque/
Soupertrooper
Christians too, but not nearly at the same level. When was the last christian honor killing?
hyperkoalafarts
Did you read that article? It says his motive is unknown. Not because of his religion, whatever it might be. Dude is a Trumper in Canada...
BigSnicker
I'm not saying Islam doesn't have its crazies, I'm just saying people need to know every religion does, before starting the lynch mob
hyperkoalafarts
You should just not misrepresent or flat out lie. I never said anything about either religion. Settle down and stop pointing fingers in def.
BigSnicker
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/white_extremist_murders_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_since_1995.html
BigSnicker
There's plenty more, you think religious violence is limited to Muslims?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
ellert0
Almost like all religion leads to violence regardless of what you call the religion. So stupid we still teach religion these days.
BigSnicker
I gotta admit I like some versions of Christianity and Buddhism, but you're totally right, it all causes vastly more harm than it does good.
GuyBeard
Atheist here. I can confidently say Buddhism causes far more good than it does harm.
BigSnicker
I wouldn't be so sure, you're talking about tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
BigSnicker
3/ And I personally find it hard to believe that Bhuddism saved hundreds of thousands of lives, versus the ABSENCE of religion.
BigSnicker
2/ I think you're thinking of NA Bhuddism. Flavours of Asian Bhuddism can become viciously and ruthlessly sectarian like all the others.
cabal101
A beautiful woman in an ugly world.
denvercrx
This is poetry
JoshuaMcarthur
This is why we can't have nice things.
1bitbucket
in 2017so far 599 Islamic attacks in 41 countries, in which 4166 were killed and 4880 injured..thereligionofpeace.com she's not on the list
metalfoto
Sick world.
FatBoobsDontCount
opposite of me and here then
stonedcloud
Desert eyes on even an ugly woman is beautiful
theinconvenienttruth
Coming to a europe near you
ashywushu
We didn't deserve her
BigSnicker
Ya, it's completely fake news guys. The Russian anti-muslim crowd is trying to play you, you can look it up. This is how they elect Le Pen.
ThereIsNotEnoughFood
So sad that i only got to know her after its already too late
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
It's not an ugly world. Islam wants to make it ugly.
blackbeardz
A beautiful woman in an ugly MAGAZINE
HiMyNameIsSavage
PuppermintJerryJr
An ugly world that didn't deserve such a beautiful woman
ChiefzZz
Amen brother
IOnlyUseHashtagsSarcastically
Amen
koorok
Allahu Akbar
mustangguy
Amen
baaaaaas4
Amen
seventeenroses
Amen
lindatwoboobsbelcher
Amen
ColonFilth
Ah men
JoshuaMcarthur
BigSnicker
Keep in mind these are Russian-only sourced allegations clearly designed to stoke anti-Muslim sentiment. I'd take a few grains of salt.
RepostSadistic
Agreed. Islam is a religion of peace. They never killed anyone. Islam good, everyone else bad. Are you happy now?
link117318
Please stop spreading hateful messages on topics you know little about. You just look at what Fox news wants you to believe bro.
RepostSadistic
I have lived in India for 26 years and seen what Islam can do up close, long before 9/11. I have lost loved ones. Don't lecture me.
link117318
Islam is a religion corrupted by culture ans man-made ideas. Look at the hadith. It contradicts everything islam stands for
link117318
Islam is good. Extremism is bad. Feminism is good. man-hating is bad.
BigSnicker
Ya, it's this kind of wilful ignorance and hatred that I'm trying to fight. We need more people thinking and fewer grabbing pitchforks.
BigSnicker
The irony is that I've personally seen much uglier stereotyping and evil sentiments towards Muslims than I've ever seen in reverse.
DeckhandAdmiral
Victim to an ugly religion.
DrunkGermanGuy
Victim of fundamentalism*
Spacebandit
All religions are ugly.
Zachakx
I disagree. It's the humans within the religions that are ugly. Let's not get distracted by titles and groups and look at the individual
AaronGodgers
*some of the humans. Who also sometimes don't follow the values of the religion they "follow".
Zachakx
Making the decision.
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YourMumKnowsMe
You're a disgusting scumbag piece of shit.
ImmaNeedBoutTreeFiddy
@sarah @alan remove this a hole
brotherdee
You're a fucking scumbag
ahnix
What the fuck is wrong with you
TheBassSlayer
It's a shame that it was wasted before I could reach it.
ahnix
You really thought that this was the best place to be an internet troll? You honestly need the shit kicked out of you
TheBassSlayer
Bring it dawg.
brotherdee
I would seriously love to kick the shit out of you for making that comment
TEDwisdom
And they really love the attention you're giving them. Trolls get off on knowing how mad their words made you. Don't feed the trolls