Oct 29, 2021 10:33 PM
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ToSisPoS
Wealth = Success in their narrative. And if they work hard enough and fight enough taxes they will be next!
Daywalker27
Rips4w
I would love to see the scum ass piece of shit that made the top half of that.
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Practically nothing goes to US welfare compared to their military.
duffman3335
Meanwhile, ppl are dying from DISCOUNT INSULIN.
Digitalwolf
PengPengWin
So, you're saying there's a problem with our government. First day?
ArkoneAxon
Agreed, but the "dickbag" part doesn't help if you're trying to convince them that the real "welfare queens" are the corporations - and you>
WANT to convince them, if you want to actually change things.
DukePhelan
Is there any evidence that a person who thinks like this can accept that they are wrong? In my family at least nothing reaches them.
IgnantGamer
I'm just happy to drive my car, that I paid taxes on the income, purchase, gas, soon for the miles driven (fed, state, county) ...
Just to know my senators, govenors, councilman will have a happy and wealthy living. While the roads that cause me to pay all the taxes...
Are still causing me to have to cover damages,, buy new tires and the disposal fees and taxes to keep my vehicle going just to start over.
Lisossoma
It´s missing military contractors
BeardedWonder82
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
That "ghetto family" is called the military, have some respect
FerbIsMySpiritAnimal
Honestly I would love to see how my money could be used to help people in need.
soon
So much of this crap is created and posted to cause hatred.
SoupForMyFamily
You mean the original meme, right? Not op's response
The "dickbag" part doesn't help. If anything, it makes it LESS likely the posters of the original meme will listen.
I doubt the posters of the original meme would listen anyway but YMMV
A 20% chance is still better than a 5% chance. That means twenty voters out of a hundred being reached, instead of only five.
Better odds than I'd give, but again YMMV. I consider it more productive to speak to the undecided and/or uninformed who are reading along
DildoRodeo
I think A) he means the 'ghetto family' mention is hateful or B) His opinion doesn't merit much thought or response.
rubypilgrim
Not anymore, Trump axed a lot of SNAP because, you know...fraud?
DropKickHead
The worst part is those 8 guys got subsidies that the poor voters ignore because the media told them their neighbors got a few hundred bucks
jessika95ve
Also told those 8 guys are self-made.
K1d1caru5
I always found it amazing how musk manages to make all the cars and spaceships himself. So talented doing the work of 1000's by himself
ButtholeIceCreamParlor
I need food stamps and don't qualify.
downvotevacuum
I dont look at someone's result and form an opinion. Their decisions that led them to the result might be a problem.
InTangier
This stinks of Jordan Peterson's stupid shit. You can't infer motivation from consequence.
Algebraicrhombus
That's exactly what this reminds me of. Makes a normal statement here and there, but mostly silver-tongued semantic bs.
Jandegrote
I dont look at someones result and form an opinion, then goes on to form an opinion.
Corporate welfare, for those interested. Plenty of unopinionated source material with a simple Google search.
I say this, because it shouldn't be a common key word, except for forums. (Stay clear of those)
giganticroboticpenguin
Call it what it is. Corporate Socialism. The rich label Dems with that term to scare the mentally challenged lower class.
Call it whatever you want, but it's beneficial to the wealthy at the expense of the poor. Which name you choose changes who objects to it.
RandyRandalman
FartmanMD
Man I loved that interview. You could hear the single brain cell bouncing around his skull like pong
I SWEARED ONNA BAHBUL
impossibleish
Help a sister out? If not a link which interview? Thanks :)
Sorry will try to find a link for ya in a bit
Jake Tapper and Roy Moore CNN
trippingthelightfantastic
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
They don't care because the rich people deserve that money, and they deserve that money because they're rich. Prosperity gospel, at work.
IDidntAgreeToTheTermsOfService
Kaiser Permanente is a none profit organization. Might not be perfect, but I won’t lump it with the other dicks
graft
Kaiser is "not-for-profit" which is VERY different from "non-profit"
Chaimgoldbergenstein
"Non-profit" does not necessarily mean what common sense would dictate.
Common sense is not at all common.
Business is non-profit not those that run it.
I work there for over 20 years and I can confirm. Some leaders are good, most are dicks.
The current CEO Greg Adam's reported 2019 tax forms from kaiser made a 9M salary and worked 15 hours a week.
There are only three levels between me and him. I didn’t break $200K a year yet!
onlyhalfghost
I also currently work about 15 hours per week for a non-profit. I get paid about 500$ a month for it, where do I sign up for his job?
skapanda616
nanyatenyaa
That image does oversimplify things somewhat... Like asking why~ women make less than men and what are the factors in that can become heated
Or coming to terms with how an interaction between your freedom to practice your religion which does not align with another persons life...
..style, and how that person's right to also have freedom to practice the religion interact with your rights.
Or if your religious organization can be forced to take an action such as supporting a certain life style, that conflicts with your religion
And to what extent does the expectation reach?
fantasyfungi
scuba7jb
Set up a shell corporation ---> use it to buy your house ----> pay rent to your own bogus company ---> deduct all maintenance costs as loss
Tanshift
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Niicollage
Works till you sell it and have to pay tax on the capital gains. But if you never sell then yeah. Sweet plan!
yesthatsawesome
If you own it for 7+ years no capital gains tax
backrideup9
Do this, sell your car to the company, rent it back from them as an employee, drive for Uber/Lyft. Basically write off 100% of income.
topherrobin
Soo yeah, you'll still need 20-25% down-payment for this. Can't buy a house with an owner-occupied mortgage using a corp
AeroEngineer
This is why only the rich can use those loopholes, allowing the rich to get richer.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Yup, I know someone who is going to buy 5k worth of cows so he can write off 20k in losses, not just rich fuckers cheating
peeeopeepeee
I told a buddy of mine who bought 20 acres to get 14 goats to mow his lawn, then he only pays half the property tax.
jiicorBaron
Pretty normal. Once you have animals it changes tax category
Yes, agricultural exemptions. Farmers around here use it all the time for tax breaks
With a few accounting shenanigans you can pay zero taxes and get money back.
Antineutrino11
If you're poor enough, you do in Canada :)
Criscartersfallguys
This is what hitting your kids does to them when they become adults. Instead of learning not to do something because it’s morally wrong, /1
They learn not to do things because there are repercussions. Which just leads to finding loopholes to avoid those repercussions.
anotherusernamed
v
Dirt poor motherfucker asking.
nevans88
Not from a poor person
Support a local artist --> Commission a painting for $50K --> Bribe an appraiser to value the it at $500K --> Donate it to a museum -->
eepsheep
I volunteer as tribute. (Tribute = artist schmuck).
Write off $500k for $60K. Repeat.
TheSilverbackPrime
Oh, so NFTs, gotcha
Nah, when you commission something the artist actually gets paid and you own something. NFTs, artist gets nothing, you own nothing.
arhalts
That's not how taxes work.if they only paid 60k they only get to write off 60k without it being legit fraud. The rich scam the system the
If they donate it, they don't have to pay taxes on it as an asset, but they get to claim the deduct for donating it based on its inflated $
Legal ways not the illegal ones
Right. Only the legal ways. Got it.
Charitable donations are a highly-exploited tax loophole.
Yes but not like that. .ore like donating to an organization your son is CEO of and takes a huge percentage of as salary, etc
ToSisPoS
Wealth = Success in their narrative. And if they work hard enough and fight enough taxes they will be next!
Daywalker27
Rips4w
I would love to see the scum ass piece of shit that made the top half of that.
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Practically nothing goes to US welfare compared to their military.
duffman3335
Meanwhile, ppl are dying from DISCOUNT INSULIN.
Digitalwolf
PengPengWin
So, you're saying there's a problem with our government. First day?
ArkoneAxon
Agreed, but the "dickbag" part doesn't help if you're trying to convince them that the real "welfare queens" are the corporations - and you>
ArkoneAxon
WANT to convince them, if you want to actually change things.
DukePhelan
Is there any evidence that a person who thinks like this can accept that they are wrong? In my family at least nothing reaches them.
IgnantGamer
I'm just happy to drive my car, that I paid taxes on the income, purchase, gas, soon for the miles driven (fed, state, county) ...
IgnantGamer
Just to know my senators, govenors, councilman will have a happy and wealthy living. While the roads that cause me to pay all the taxes...
IgnantGamer
Are still causing me to have to cover damages,, buy new tires and the disposal fees and taxes to keep my vehicle going just to start over.
Lisossoma
It´s missing military contractors
BeardedWonder82
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
That "ghetto family" is called the military, have some respect
FerbIsMySpiritAnimal
Honestly I would love to see how my money could be used to help people in need.
soon
So much of this crap is created and posted to cause hatred.
SoupForMyFamily
You mean the original meme, right? Not op's response
ArkoneAxon
The "dickbag" part doesn't help. If anything, it makes it LESS likely the posters of the original meme will listen.
SoupForMyFamily
I doubt the posters of the original meme would listen anyway but YMMV
ArkoneAxon
A 20% chance is still better than a 5% chance. That means twenty voters out of a hundred being reached, instead of only five.
SoupForMyFamily
Better odds than I'd give, but again YMMV. I consider it more productive to speak to the undecided and/or uninformed who are reading along
DildoRodeo
I think A) he means the 'ghetto family' mention is hateful or B) His opinion doesn't merit much thought or response.
SoupForMyFamily
rubypilgrim
Not anymore, Trump axed a lot of SNAP because, you know...fraud?
DropKickHead
The worst part is those 8 guys got subsidies that the poor voters ignore because the media told them their neighbors got a few hundred bucks
jessika95ve
Also told those 8 guys are self-made.
K1d1caru5
I always found it amazing how musk manages to make all the cars and spaceships himself. So talented doing the work of 1000's by himself
ButtholeIceCreamParlor
I need food stamps and don't qualify.
downvotevacuum
I dont look at someone's result and form an opinion. Their decisions that led them to the result might be a problem.
InTangier
This stinks of Jordan Peterson's stupid shit. You can't infer motivation from consequence.
Algebraicrhombus
That's exactly what this reminds me of. Makes a normal statement here and there, but mostly silver-tongued semantic bs.
Jandegrote
I dont look at someones result and form an opinion, then goes on to form an opinion.
Algebraicrhombus
Corporate welfare, for those interested. Plenty of unopinionated source material with a simple Google search.
Algebraicrhombus
I say this, because it shouldn't be a common key word, except for forums. (Stay clear of those)
giganticroboticpenguin
Call it what it is. Corporate Socialism. The rich label Dems with that term to scare the mentally challenged lower class.
Algebraicrhombus
Call it whatever you want, but it's beneficial to the wealthy at the expense of the poor. Which name you choose changes who objects to it.
RandyRandalman
FartmanMD
Man I loved that interview. You could hear the single brain cell bouncing around his skull like pong
Algebraicrhombus
I SWEARED ONNA BAHBUL
impossibleish
Help a sister out? If not a link which interview? Thanks :)
FartmanMD
Sorry will try to find a link for ya in a bit
RandyRandalman
Jake Tapper and Roy Moore CNN
trippingthelightfantastic
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
They don't care because the rich people deserve that money, and they deserve that money because they're rich. Prosperity gospel, at work.
IDidntAgreeToTheTermsOfService
Kaiser Permanente is a none profit organization. Might not be perfect, but I won’t lump it with the other dicks
graft
Kaiser is "not-for-profit" which is VERY different from "non-profit"
Chaimgoldbergenstein
"Non-profit" does not necessarily mean what common sense would dictate.
IDidntAgreeToTheTermsOfService
Common sense is not at all common.
IgnantGamer
Business is non-profit not those that run it.
IDidntAgreeToTheTermsOfService
I work there for over 20 years and I can confirm. Some leaders are good, most are dicks.
IgnantGamer
The current CEO Greg Adam's reported 2019 tax forms from kaiser made a 9M salary and worked 15 hours a week.
IDidntAgreeToTheTermsOfService
There are only three levels between me and him. I didn’t break $200K a year yet!
onlyhalfghost
I also currently work about 15 hours per week for a non-profit. I get paid about 500$ a month for it, where do I sign up for his job?
skapanda616
nanyatenyaa
That image does oversimplify things somewhat... Like asking why~ women make less than men and what are the factors in that can become heated
nanyatenyaa
Or coming to terms with how an interaction between your freedom to practice your religion which does not align with another persons life...
nanyatenyaa
..style, and how that person's right to also have freedom to practice the religion interact with your rights.
nanyatenyaa
Or if your religious organization can be forced to take an action such as supporting a certain life style, that conflicts with your religion
nanyatenyaa
And to what extent does the expectation reach?
fantasyfungi
scuba7jb
Set up a shell corporation ---> use it to buy your house ----> pay rent to your own bogus company ---> deduct all maintenance costs as loss
Tanshift
.
Niicollage
Works till you sell it and have to pay tax on the capital gains. But if you never sell then yeah. Sweet plan!
yesthatsawesome
If you own it for 7+ years no capital gains tax
backrideup9
Do this, sell your car to the company, rent it back from them as an employee, drive for Uber/Lyft. Basically write off 100% of income.
topherrobin
Soo yeah, you'll still need 20-25% down-payment for this. Can't buy a house with an owner-occupied mortgage using a corp
AeroEngineer
This is why only the rich can use those loopholes, allowing the rich to get richer.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Yup, I know someone who is going to buy 5k worth of cows so he can write off 20k in losses, not just rich fuckers cheating
peeeopeepeee
I told a buddy of mine who bought 20 acres to get 14 goats to mow his lawn, then he only pays half the property tax.
jiicorBaron
Pretty normal. Once you have animals it changes tax category
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Yes, agricultural exemptions. Farmers around here use it all the time for tax breaks
scuba7jb
With a few accounting shenanigans you can pay zero taxes and get money back.
Antineutrino11
If you're poor enough, you do in Canada :)
Criscartersfallguys
This is what hitting your kids does to them when they become adults. Instead of learning not to do something because it’s morally wrong, /1
Criscartersfallguys
They learn not to do things because there are repercussions. Which just leads to finding loopholes to avoid those repercussions.
anotherusernamed
anotherusernamed
Dirt poor motherfucker asking.
nevans88
Not from a poor person
duffman3335
Support a local artist --> Commission a painting for $50K --> Bribe an appraiser to value the it at $500K --> Donate it to a museum -->
eepsheep
I volunteer as tribute. (Tribute = artist schmuck).
duffman3335
Write off $500k for $60K. Repeat.
TheSilverbackPrime
Oh, so NFTs, gotcha
nanyatenyaa
Nah, when you commission something the artist actually gets paid and you own something. NFTs, artist gets nothing, you own nothing.
arhalts
That's not how taxes work.if they only paid 60k they only get to write off 60k without it being legit fraud. The rich scam the system the
duffman3335
If they donate it, they don't have to pay taxes on it as an asset, but they get to claim the deduct for donating it based on its inflated $
arhalts
Legal ways not the illegal ones
duffman3335
Right. Only the legal ways. Got it.
duffman3335
Charitable donations are a highly-exploited tax loophole.
arhalts
Yes but not like that. .ore like donating to an organization your son is CEO of and takes a huge percentage of as salary, etc