What they're doing is listening to conservative voices that just want poor people to suffer. Mamdani is what happens when you stop giving cruelty a voice.
This is great but, who is picking up the bill for the other half? are taxes going up? the city needs money to run infrastructure, it's great to do this sort of stuff but the money needs to come from somewhere. ideally the corpos that have been dodging tax for decades.
I guess the guy has been on an absolute WTAF-spree since he entered that office... like one hearty WTAF every 3 minutes or so when seeing what the predecessors did(n't)
If we're talking about Eric Adams, he was making videos about how to search your child's room for something as simple as a crack pipe in their popular knapsack with many different locations.
Stealing all the money and collecting a paycheck while not giving two turtle shits what everyone else is doing. Now imagine how little senators are doing especially now that they have orange mousalini and the Nazi heritage foundation drafting all their laws for them
Yes but I haven't been called on by him to Jihad it is like somehow the money paid in taxes is benefiting the people with little to no Jihad on my part.
They are NOT all the same. What RepugliKKKn has done what Mamdani has done! They only care about lining their own pockets, and have no empathy. Look at what the "Great Big Beautiful Bill" has done, killing ACA for people who have no other way to get health care, going after immigrants that are citizens, or have no criminal record. tRump, Vance and McConnell had [in Mitch's case widow]. Not to mention racists. >
Mostly but they also got a lot of money to the establishment Democrats as well who like to play both sides and at this point are only Dinos (Democrat in name only) they intentionally pretend to act like they are left facing but then when it looks like we might slide to far from center right they undermine democrats so republicans win. Looking at you Chuck Shcumer and Nancy Pelosi you 2 leading pieces of shit.
Saw a video where NY's government is set up in a way that allows mamdani to be effective. Other cities like LA can be decentralized which makes this kind of change difficult.
The more I see these type of headline the more I fear we'll wake up one day with a headline about how he committed suicide by multiple gunshot wounds at the back of the head.
you know what really pisses me off, when he took office his team did an audit and found that only a tiny fraction of the income and property taxes that new york city contributed to the state, got spent on new york city.
that's pretty much how you'd expect it to work. It's more a question of whether that fraction is the correct fraction. But the financial center of the state will tend to fund the rest of the state, yeah.
Largely a function of population density, and applies everywhere. More people sharing the same infrastructure costs makes it cheaper per person. Also, lots of wealth and business activity in a concentrated space means lots of economic activity to tax. As a big city liberal, I’m OK with that — but give us props. Rural county exec (GOP) in our state — a county that gets $3.25 in spending per $1 tax — complained that their taxes goes to fund drug addicts in my city. It fucking doesn’t.
Do you have a source for this? I wanna see the actual numbers and cant find anything about it. I just keep getting articles about a.) His budget 2.) His audit of federal immigration ●.) His own tax returns. But nothing about what your talking about
It's all cities. All cities subsidize the suburbs because of difference in infrastructure costs per capita (the infrastructure like roads and power relay to the spread out population in suburbs and rural areas is MASSIVELY higher than providing those services in high density areas). New York is just a good example, but this is an issue for every city. Lower income wage slaves in the city are paying for the roads, water, sewer, etc to their managers mcmansions.
"talking at length" isn't a source. How naive do you have to be to think that everything a politician says is the total truth?! I support Mamdani's policies, but I will NEVER hero worship any human being and believe everything they say. Everything requires a citation.
That's not a nuanced take. The cost of existence for city dwellers is massively lower than it is for their rural / exurban / suburban counterparts. The further you live from a city center, the more tax revenue you consume, especially in the form of infrastructure. The way that taxes are handled is such that lower income citizens in cities are subsidizing the existence of higher income citizens in the suburbs. It's all backwards and low thought takes like this are what prevent fixing it.
And as the majority voting block the city can put there people in Albany. I am not defending it, but if you want to have a government of any size then the public funds split will not be even. The other option it to arbitrarily define everyone's contribution as equal... that does not work at all so here we are.
Wait till you find out where most of New Yorker’s federal taxes go. Hint: It doesn’t come back to NY. Nationally or at the state level, the populated areas heavily subsidize the less populous areas.
lemme put it a different way, are you happy your taxpayer dollars are going to refurbish a gaudy jet that Trump gets to keep? Instead of roads getting repaved and bridges getting rebuilt?
Well if roads are your metric, there are more roads in the rest of the state than in new york city. And while theres certainly room to argue they arent getting enough back, the basic idea of new yorks progressive tax rate IS that wealthy areas pay more which then goes to less-wealthy areas that pay less. So, while nyc undoubtedly needs more, and deserves more, of that money, the idea that you will or should get ALL that money back to your area is wrong because that would mean wealth stays in 1/
There are more roads but not more road use. NYC and NYS both maintain Open Data portals and you will find that NYC sees a hell of a lot heavier usage. Much like "empty land doesn't vote," road wear is affected by traffic. Also the poster you've replied to is saying that more should come back to NYC. Not all of it. I don't see anyone in this thread proposing the strawman you've set up and then cleverly defeated.
DaffydeDick
Other mayors were getting dark money under the table commonly known as getting your palms greased.
TheMoonBnuuy
What they're doing is listening to conservative voices that just want poor people to suffer.
Mamdani is what happens when you stop giving cruelty a voice.
AgamemnonsMemes
They weren't good people
urusername2
Mamdani is showing us they difference between "I Can't" and "I Won't. All the things they said he can't do, and he is doing them.
Jezzz
This is great but, who is picking up the bill for the other half? are taxes going up? the city needs money to run infrastructure, it's great to do this sort of stuff but the money needs to come from somewhere. ideally the corpos that have been dodging tax for decades.
TrumpRapesAndEatsChildren0002
I guess the guy has been on an absolute WTAF-spree since he entered that office... like one hearty WTAF every 3 minutes or so when seeing what the predecessors did(n't)
LanceCharisma
If we're talking about Eric Adams, he was making videos about how to search your child's room for something as simple as a crack pipe in their popular knapsack with many different locations.
hellospacemonkey
Other things: Speeding citations and other fines should be based on your income level.
chrishallett83
Lining their pockets with kickbacks from property developers, mostly.
The701
"Mamdani gets in, and he's like 'Oh yeah there's just a button. You just have to press this button, and then stuff gets done.'"
The701
comedian: Josh Johnson https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEVGjT5p2AvXZqu8vkFxvdsPbmHPcsQAV
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bHhoZjdqMWx2bzgxZ3JyaTdtZmVnczhnbDhkbHR0d3J2Z2RoMDBjZSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/UnyGF7evFkN04X24tI/200w.webp
thedarklord187
Stealing all the money and collecting a paycheck while not giving two turtle shits what everyone else is doing. Now imagine how little senators are doing especially now that they have orange mousalini and the Nazi heritage foundation drafting all their laws for them
oozabooza
That is the question, isn't it?
OtisTDrunk
NYC has its own city budget and NYC funds many of its own services locally, reducing the need for state spending inside the city.
OneMoreLime
Man I thought the right said we would be getting our problems solved through jihad so far zero jihad, most disappointing.
Hexidimentional
you know that jihad just means "a lot of effort" right? kinda seems like mamdani's working hard
OneMoreLime
Yes but I haven't been called on by him to Jihad it is like somehow the money paid in taxes is benefiting the people with little to no Jihad on my part.
Hexidimentional
i mean he did call on all new yorkers to do a jihad on the snowbanks that one time
hanmerhack
Making money from keeping the prices up?
ItsATrap
It so weird that you can spend tax money on actual beneficial things instead of just stuff for rich people.
CaptainYesterday
Funding their own private friends and businesses
urusername2
You mean RepugliKKKns, right?
CaptainYesterday
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZmpqemtnbGF5ejJhNnd4NWIxZDN2bHowaHdtNnczbTdjeDNuZ25qdiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/gCeh1KDeDaxGu8no4A/200w.webp
urusername2
They are NOT all the same. What RepugliKKKn has done what Mamdani has done! They only care about lining their own pockets, and have no empathy. Look at what the "Great Big Beautiful Bill" has done, killing ACA for people who have no other way to get health care, going after immigrants that are citizens, or have no criminal record. tRump, Vance and McConnell had [in Mitch's case widow]. Not to mention racists. >
urusername2
If you say they are both the same, then you must also be a racist like them.
Elonth
Mostly but they also got a lot of money to the establishment Democrats as well who like to play both sides and at this point are only Dinos (Democrat in name only) they intentionally pretend to act like they are left facing but then when it looks like we might slide to far from center right they undermine democrats so republicans win. Looking at you Chuck Shcumer and Nancy Pelosi you 2 leading pieces of shit.
InfocalypseRising
Being right wingers and pocketing mad cash, mostly. And skipping their meds in Eric Adams's case, that dude was just a full blown lunatic.
SavageDrums
Public transit should be free, as it is a public good. But this is a great start towards that!
SploogeMcDuck316
Saw a video where NY's government is set up in a way that allows mamdani to be effective. Other cities like LA can be decentralized which makes this kind of change difficult.
MotoCanuck
It's nice to see a politician that isn't all talk and actually gets shit done, especially at such a rate that he has done.
davebarton315101
Public faith and optimism can make an incredible difference.
hotaru251
So...this guy got any siblings who can run for Mayor in my city? Would lvoe to see actual change for better...
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
samanthadlcruz
Every other mayor was mostly working to accept bribes.
amtronic
Picking the public's pockets.
Avilan1972
Well that, and giving cops more money.
ChiefRunningFridge
I'm pretty sure those low income people do a lot of the real work NYC...
doctorId
I read this before I read the title and was so confused, I thought you were responding to the headline
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SparrowTail3
Hopefully this is a case of not realizing that the top level comment was in response to OPs title, not the headline in the screenshot.
KrampusCopia
They are being sarcastic.
VitaminJay
the audacity! (a panamax of /S because there's accounts on here too stupid to be left alone in a tub of water...)
EverNotRelevant
Better than pocking public pickets.
iDrawStuff
or pucking the piblics peckits.
StNickCage
Or picking at pubic pus
iDrawStuff
StNickCage
Agreed but I'm a sucker for puns and alliteration
DontYouHateWhenAllUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken
Oh look a spoonerism.
Blimjoe
Because the best way to pick someone's pocket is to leave more money in it than when you started
DoomyDoomyDoom
They were responding to the title, not the picture
Blimjoe
Definitive articles help to avoid confusions like this... i.e THEY WERE picking the public's pockets
Gearwarz
Good old Number 7 train. That was my train behind my house when I lived in Elmhurst.
Phimukhi
The more I see these type of headline the more I fear we'll wake up one day with a headline about how he committed suicide by multiple gunshot wounds at the back of the head.
Hexidimentional
you know what really pisses me off, when he took office his team did an audit and found that only a tiny fraction of the income and property taxes that new york city contributed to the state, got spent on new york city.
NickRivieraMD
that's pretty much how you'd expect it to work. It's more a question of whether that fraction is the correct fraction. But the financial center of the state will tend to fund the rest of the state, yeah.
seedye
Largely a function of population density, and applies everywhere. More people sharing the same infrastructure costs makes it cheaper per person. Also, lots of wealth and business activity in a concentrated space means lots of economic activity to tax. As a big city liberal, I’m OK with that — but give us props. Rural county exec (GOP) in our state — a county that gets $3.25 in spending per $1 tax — complained that their taxes goes to fund drug addicts in my city. It fucking doesn’t.
alienstomper
Do you have a source for this? I wanna see the actual numbers and cant find anything about it. I just keep getting articles about a.) His budget 2.) His audit of federal immigration ●.) His own tax returns. But nothing about what your talking about
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
It's all cities. All cities subsidize the suburbs because of difference in infrastructure costs per capita (the infrastructure like roads and power relay to the spread out population in suburbs and rural areas is MASSIVELY higher than providing those services in high density areas). New York is just a good example, but this is an issue for every city. Lower income wage slaves in the city are paying for the roads, water, sewer, etc to their managers mcmansions.
Mitheral
Yep. No suburbs pay their own way. Start here (Not Just Bikes): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJp5q-R0lZ0_FCUbeVWK6OGLN69ehUTVa
Hexidimentional
wdym he talked at length about the funding deficit he was left with when he took office in the first month
freshthrowaway1138
"talking at length" isn't a source. How naive do you have to be to think that everything a politician says is the total truth?! I support Mamdani's policies, but I will NEVER hero worship any human being and believe everything they say. Everything requires a citation.
alienstomper
No i mean the state spending vs their paid taxes thing
RomanValkre
You know that is how taxes work right? The small parts pay into a larger system, this is not going to be an even split.
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
That's not a nuanced take. The cost of existence for city dwellers is massively lower than it is for their rural / exurban / suburban counterparts. The further you live from a city center, the more tax revenue you consume, especially in the form of infrastructure. The way that taxes are handled is such that lower income citizens in cities are subsidizing the existence of higher income citizens in the suburbs. It's all backwards and low thought takes like this are what prevent fixing it.
Hexidimentional
ok but where does the majority of the population of new york state live? is it upstate? or is 90% of the population living and working in manhattan?
RomanValkre
And as the majority voting block the city can put there people in Albany. I am not defending it, but if you want to have a government of any size then the public funds split will not be even. The other option it to arbitrarily define everyone's contribution as equal... that does not work at all so here we are.
Hexidimentional
mamdanis predecessors were definitely embezzling and mismanaging funds on purpose, intentionally defaulting new york city in order to harm his admin
brownribbon
Approximately half of NY state’s population lives in NYC and Long Island.
modis
Wait till you find out where most of New Yorker’s federal taxes go. Hint: It doesn’t come back to NY. Nationally or at the state level, the populated areas heavily subsidize the less populous areas.
Ankylosaur
"Roughly 64% of the state's population lives in the New York City metropolitan area and 40% in New York City alone" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_(state)
Hexidimentional
and yet the city was running a deficit of billions while the suburbs got far more than they needed
Hexidimentional
lemme put it a different way, are you happy your taxpayer dollars are going to refurbish a gaudy jet that Trump gets to keep? Instead of roads getting repaved and bridges getting rebuilt?
alienstomper
Well if roads are your metric, there are more roads in the rest of the state than in new york city. And while theres certainly room to argue they arent getting enough back, the basic idea of new yorks progressive tax rate IS that wealthy areas pay more which then goes to less-wealthy areas that pay less. So, while nyc undoubtedly needs more, and deserves more, of that money, the idea that you will or should get ALL that money back to your area is wrong because that would mean wealth stays in 1/
BreakablePotato
There are more roads but not more road use. NYC and NYS both maintain Open Data portals and you will find that NYC sees a hell of a lot heavier usage. Much like "empty land doesn't vote," road wear is affected by traffic.
Also the poster you've replied to is saying that more should come back to NYC. Not all of it. I don't see anyone in this thread proposing the strawman you've set up and then cleverly defeated.
alienstomper
in wealthy areas