Chinese invent new stronger Graphene Aerogel 99.8% Air

May 31, 2018 9:18 AM

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Chinese material scientists have created the world’s lightest material: A graphene aerogel that is seven times lighter than air, and 12% lighter than the previous record holder (aerographite). A cubic centimeter of the graphene aerogel weighs just 0.16 milligrams — or, if you’re having a problem conceptualizing that, a cubic meter weighs just 160 grams (5.6 ounces). The graphene aerogel is so light that an cube inch of the stuff can be balanced on a blade of grass, the stamen of a flower, or the fluffy seed head of a dandelion (see pictures below).

Most aerogels are produced using a sol-gel process, where a gel is dehydrated until only the aerogel remains. Some aerogels are also produced using the template  method — aerographite, for example, is created by growing carbon on a lattice (template) of zinc oxide crystals — and then the zinc oxide is removed in an oven, leaving just the carbon aerogel. To create the graphene aerogel, however, researchers at Zhejiang University use a novel freeze-drying method. Basically, it seems like the researchers  create a solution of graphene and carbon nanotubes, pour it into a mold, and then freeze dry it. Freeze drying dehydrates the solution, leaving single-atom-thick layers of graphene, supported by carbon nanotubes. The researchers say that there’s no limit to the size of the container: You could make a mini graphene aerogel using this process, or a meter-cubed aerogel if you wish.

The end result is an aerogel that weighs just 0.16 milligrams per cubic centimeter, and has truly superb elasticity and absorption. The graphene aerogel can recover completely after more than 90% compression, and absorb up to 900 times its own weight in oil, at a rate of 68.8 grams per second. With these two features combined, lead researcher Gao Chao hopes that the material might be used to mop up oil spills, squeezed to reclaim the oil, and then thrown back in the ocean to mop up more oil. Beyond filtration, graphene aerogel might be used as insulation — or, if it’s as conductive as aerographite (which seems likely), graphene aerogel could enable the creation of lighter, higher-energy-density batteries.

Over the next few pages we’ve compiled some amazing photos of aerogels. Click through if you want to see lumps of carbon balancing on a blade of grass, centimeter-thick slabs of aerogel that can insulate against the blue flame of a Bunsen burner,  or a two-gram piece of aerogel that can hold up a 2.5-kilogram brick,

Source: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/153063-graphene-aerogel-is-seven-times-lighter-than-air-can-balance-on-a-blade-of-grass

Chinese material scientists have created the world’s lightest material: A graphene aerogel that is seven times lighter than air, and 12% lighter than the previous record holder (aerographite). A cubic centimeter of the graphene aerogel weighs just 0.16 milligrams — or, if you’re having a problem conceptualizing that, a cubic meter weighs just 160 grams (5.6 ounces). The graphene aerogel is so light that an cube inch of the stuff can be balanced on a blade of grass, the stamen of a flower, or the fluffy seed head of a dandelion (see pictures below).

Most aerogels are produced using a sol-gel process, where a gel is dehydrated until only the aerogel remains. Some aerogels are also produced using the template  method — aerographite, for example, is created by growing carbon on a lattice (template) of zinc oxide crystals — and then the zinc oxide is removed in an oven, leaving just the carbon aerogel. To create the graphene aerogel, however, researchers at Zhejiang University use a novel freeze-drying method. Basically, it seems like the researchers  create a solution of graphene and carbon nanotubes, pour it into a mold, and then freeze dry it. Freeze drying dehydrates the solution, leaving single-atom-thick layers of graphene, supported by carbon nanotubes. The researchers say that there’s no limit to the size of the container: You could make a mini graphene aerogel using this process, or a meter-cubed aerogel if you wish.

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thats great but what are commerical and consumer uses for this I mean What the hell could an average person like me do with it

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

#1 looks like the Borg

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is an underrated comment.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ah god I hate how lazy this post is “through the next few pages” for fucks sake be less lazy about it

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

I hate that every time something comes out of China people make a big deal about China. Most other countries don't get such treatment.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 7

Original article is 5 yrs old. Has there been any recent development?

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

graphene is cool but comes from graphite and that supply is not endless. china has the most natural graphite and is selling it

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Can graphene be only made from natural graphite? Can't find any good sources on it atm

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Idk how big a cubic meter is but neat

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is not lighter then air. Helium is lighter then air. You know what something filled with helium does? Which this does not do?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Did some research on it, and it's bad math. They say it's lighter than air because they are measuring only the weight of the gel and not 1/

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

the air in the pores for it's actual weight, but are including the air in the volume. Resulting in an incorrect measurement of mass.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What the fuck does seven times lighter than air mean. Words meant to seem impressive / while communicating to the layman but are meaningless

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I see that a lot in online articles. I can only surmise that fractions terrify a lot of people.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Does it actually mean 1/7 the weight? Well that's a very silly way of saying that simple fact. Thank you.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Very cool. I have so much respect for the engineers and scientists that work on this technology.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What is this actually used for besides getting internet points?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wasn't this like 5 years ago? Still cool, but it's made to sound like it just happened.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Oh man how did I miss this post? I work with Graphene.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Guys...Girls...Its below the brick :P

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

April 10, 2013......

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Finally weights for me

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Aerogel has existed for a while OP

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Graphene is effing amazing

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I think the really fun thing to do with this, insulation/structure for a house. Before you move in, pick it up and shake it! :D

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sooo super liggtweight batteries?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You just copy and pasted the same 2 paragraphs.. Twice. Nice.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

5 Year old news tagged under current events...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Science is tight. Can someone give me some potential uses? Is it a good conductor?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Graphene is a Zero bandgap Semiconductor, Superconductor, Insulator, Thermal Conductor, etc. etc.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We're still working on Graphene transistors though.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's applications are effectively endless when composited with other materials or doped with metal oxides or the like.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you throw it in the ocean why would it soak up oil instead of sea water?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Because science? Just kidding, I have no idea. I wanna know the answer too, though. Maybe because it's thrown onto the oil and not water?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Probably because it's Graphene and not Graphene oxide so it's hydrophobic.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How can you balance it on grass if it's lighter than air?

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 3

Let me try. If you cut, say, a cube and don't count the trapped air inside is 7 times lighter than the same cube made of air.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can do that exercise with literally any material.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

There is a huge amount of empty space in aerographene (and other aerogels). However this space is filled with air hence why it doesn't float

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 4

That's not how that works. A porous buoyant object still floats in water even if fully soaked in water.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Nice explanation, but still I'm confused. However huge of a space is filled wit air, that leaves the volume that's lighter.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

When a boat displaces all it's water it's lighter than water.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

From the explanation I'd assume the material itself isn't lighter than air but when the empty space isn't filled it is.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Material is denser than air, but the structure it forms has gaps. Like how helium balloons are lighter, but the balloon itself isn't.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Did a calculation and it would actually float if you fill the void with hydrogen and seal it. Would still lift upto 1 kg /m^3 normally.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So the aerographene is not lighter than air (in the same way that a latex balloon is not lighter than air). The helium is lighter than air

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

no, I believe that it is lighter that air, but it contains air that pushes it downwards, just like when you put a plastic container fulled >

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yep.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I want to see this under the hydraulic press

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Me too. If you find a video, please share.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You'd be disappointed. Graphene's fracture toughness is only like 1.3 MPa. That's the problem with using it for structural applications.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like the '100x stronger than steel' without anything concrete.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is. Its tensile strength is 130 Gigapascals while steel's is only 350 Megapascals (so 300ish times stronger)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But that's *perfect* graphene and graphene has imperfections. Its fracture toughness is only 4 megapascals, while steel's is 50.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If they can make spacecraft out of this we could go to space with almost no propulsion.

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Watch out for Space Bat, could ruin the launch.

8 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

Too soon.. RIP Space Bat.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Ya, we could Randy Johnson to throw us into space.

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Just watch out for birds prior to launch.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Space craft are already 95% thrusters and fuel, with 5% tinfoil and match sticks. Might be a good material for station habitats though.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Reducing the payload weight DRASTICALLY reduces the fuel needed and thus the overall mass, though.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

True, true. Any viable reduction in weight at any stage is certainly valuable. I was just contending the "almost no propulsion" bit.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Like the giant acme rubber band that the coyote used?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

No matter the density, once in vacuum, gravity will pull it back to earth. Space (earth orbit) is more about speed.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is porous, air can move through it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm guessing the material isn't airtight, so I suspect there would be many limitations in that use.

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

It is airtight, it's one of the few materials that hydrogen can't permeate in fact.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wrap it in cling flim then.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

And think of the other things too, bullet proof vests, construction, medical equipment. Could be a game changer!

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Well...there is that issue of crew and equipment. Haha

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

But wouldn’t humans and electrical components etc add weight anyway?

8 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 13

Sending humans to space is stupid anyway. Like sending a fridge of meat. Just copy us onto a future cell phone and send the phone.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 12

YES, however anything is possible in USSR

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Next project is humans made of aerogel.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

We'd still be reducing the rocket's weight by a massive margin. And when every pound counts, that is an incredible boon.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

With technology getting smaller and lighter, it would be like tying a rocket to your desk chair.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So...we shouldn't do it. Got it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I guess my question is: can this material stand the rigors of exit velocity and possible reentry?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Almost certainly not I'd say, and problems arise when you consider that we still need to make the engines and fuel tanks out of metal

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a slave scientist, no, that's not how it works

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How do you study slaves?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

FML, space scientist

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Interesting lapsus tho.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He mostly does field work

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Want to sign up as a subject and I'll show you?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Does it has better benefits than what my current taskmaster offers?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The issue is Graphene has terrible fracture toughness, so if you hit it with things it turns into flakey dandruff, basically.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's China. They stole the patent and intellectual property from the first creators.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 11

source?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The problem is the US does the early research publishes it for all the world, and China does all the late-stage research that makes products

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They didn't steal it. Graphene research is academic, Academic research has no patent or intellectual property rights.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Stolen. Tech. China steals tech and int. property as a matter of course

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's not stolen, it was published in scientific journals. Anyone is free to do what they want with it provided they put a citation.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Our research team made Graphene-MnO2 supercapacitors. Someone is perfectly within US intellectual property law to make them and sell them.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If it is lighter than air, why it doesn't rise up?

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Because it's still more dense.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

It doesn't rise up because it's filled with air, not empty. Same as if you'd fill a basketball with water and throw it in the ocean.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Good analogy.

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Aweins

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Cause he's a dense motherfucker

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I'm imagining their 'weight' numbers are after byouancy. ie: not weight

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because the man is keeping it down.

8 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 0

The air is a platypus

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

For fear of a long drawn out war with the government. It's happy enough in its current state. It doesn't want it's kids to inherit their war

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

there is a brick on it

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Surface area/buoyancy

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It *would be* lighter than air, if there was a vacuum inside, but there's not.

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It's waterlogged with air

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Bad math. They are counting the air as part of the volume but not as part of the mass, resulting in an incorrect measurement.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The Flying Spaghetti Monster restrains it with His noodly appendage.

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 4

Could be that brick sitting on top of it?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Because OP doesn't know what he's yammering about.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 10

If you're gonna call out OP, don't be a coward about it. Here, I'll do it for you. @OP

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's not lighter than air. Instead, it has huge voids within its structure, so the whole *structure* is lighter than air. Just like a (1/2)

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Helium balloon is "lighter than air", but the balloon itself actually isn't.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Except that a helium balloon collapses under its own weight in a vacuum.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Right, so what we've got is something denser than air and far stronger than a balloon.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No, 1 cc of aerogel evacuated of air weighs less than 1 cc of air. 1 cc of rubber doesn't

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's shy

8 years ago | Likes 173 Dislikes 0

It's not usually like that!

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but it's never done that before

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Just like my pp

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It hasn't had its coffee yet.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's a good Christian material. Getting high is out of the question.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

The hard parts (graphene nanotubes) are denser than air, but if you sucked all the air out and sealed it, it would float. Like a zeppelin.

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No, it would collapse under the 1 atmosphere of air pushing in on it.

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No, it would rock. As in Led Zepplin.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's exactly my problem with the statement. If they can prove that it won't collapse, then I'll be impressed. Otherwise any material 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

could in theory be "lighter than air". 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

but first, the material it would take to cover the surface to make it air tight would make it heavier than air. It's like a sponge.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Both totally true. I was just explaining what is meant by "lighter than air", didn't mean to imply you could actually make it float.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So put the whole thing in a vacuum chamber, you bozo

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wow. Then there's no air for the substance to float in. You're not very good at science. A thing floats because it masses less than the >>

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

lol I meant to respond to a different comment, the overarching idea being discussed is its density with air evacuated

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty good at science, imgur comments just aren't a great way to have meaningful discussions. Shit gets jumbled/misplaced

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

same volume of the fluid it's put into. Vacuum has no mass so the graphene would not float in it. Unless you have it in a weightless >>

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It hasn't gained a sufficient anger at the bourgeoisie.

8 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 1

Easy fix, just introduce it to imgur.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This should be getting so many more upvotes than it has.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

DAMN! It is immune to being thrown out of a helicopter.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*communism insceases*

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

There is a huge amount of empty space in aerographene However this space is filled air hence why it doesn't

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Well how is the material's volume measured then? You can't count the empty space if it's accessible for air.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Mh, is it strong enough to support atmospheric pressure? Could you wrap it with a thin plastic film and pump all the air out?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ah like sponge soaked with water is why it doesn't float

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

How is it 99.8% air and 7x lighter than air? I might be bad at math but how can 1/500 of the material make that much difference?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wonder whether it is strong enough to withstand air pressure - if so, a balloon filled with this stuff wd be lighter than air if evacuated

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well, the picture says it is 100x stronger than steel..

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Spider webs are also much stronger than steel cables *by thickness*. But it's a 1/4in steel cable is cheaper than a 1/4in web cable.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's the obvious thought that comes straight to mind for me. I can only assume the answer is no, otherwise we'd surely be seeing...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2) demonstrations of it, or at least talk about that potential, but it makes you wonder doesn't it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is it strong enough to withstand the air pressure if it were created in a vacuum?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If it's filled with empty space that space should not be counted as part of the volume when computing the density of material.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's like trying to compute the density of cardboard by using the volume of a cardboard box.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No it isn't, it's like computing the density of corrugated cardboard itself. You can't discount the structure of the material.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So it's like saying that "steel is lighter than water because a steel balloon will float on it"

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

No, it's like saying some particular structure made of steel is lighter than water.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, there's a lot of incorrect/incomplete "science" here. "Great thermal conductor" =/= good insulator. :D

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If it was truly lighter than air, it wouldn't matter how much air (uncompressed) was inside, it would still float. 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 75 Dislikes 1

Blow up a balloon with your lungs. Does that balloon float? The ratio of air to LTA gel is too high to float.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

oh, it's a word play. it's not less dense than air, it's lighter than air, the same way an aircraft carrier is lighter than water.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They posted its net weight and density in air, not its total weight and density in air.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Which means it is not lighter than air.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh i just realized, we’re only talking about weight, not density, entirely possible that it’s more dense

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That would be an utterly incoherent value, though. Absolutely everything weighs both more and less than air, if the amount is arbitrary.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That’s my point, you need to know density to figure that point out

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/2 lighter than air + air = still lighter than air

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Boats by volume are lighter than water, boats filled with water sink.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Only if you take the volume of the boat including hollow areas and not the actual mathematical volume.

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It doesn't have "double air".

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But since it’s lighter than air, the heavier air would float under it, the item would have buoyancy

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

3/3 I now read how it's lighter than air but I still don't understand. I don't see how "lighter" + "what it's lighter than" doesn't = float.

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So a boat displaces water in order to get it to float, this allows air To flow freely through it like a foam, so it doesn't displace any.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The material vitself is not lighter than air, however the density of the structure it is arranged in makes it so it is lighter per volume

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What they are saying is a meter cube block of this stuff with no air in between is lighter than a meter cube block of air.

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So the air inside it is weighing it down?

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Kind of like why boats sink when filled with water

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, the aerographene itself is heavier than air, too. The lighter-than-air misnomer comes from if you filled it with vacuum, it would float.

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But filled with vacuum it would just collapse to a density still heavier than air, caused by the air pressure.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

as would a box of sufficient volume and thinness made from any material (lead, steel, old terrycloth towels)

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Actually any object in a vaccum would never float because there is no bouant force to lift it up

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I like the materials you selected as an example.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As would the Eiffel tower

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Vacuum-based airships are a fascinating, if unfeasible, idea.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Would it be feasible with this gel, where you remove the air, while the graphene / gel gives stability to the structure?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Exactly

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Cool

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so if we fill it with Hydrogen or a vacuum we get self launching rockets.

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Unless I'm mistaken its overall density is such that it would still float, no? Since total density of closed system would still be lesser?

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Yes, and that shows you that in fact its not lighter than air. Thats because gaphene is solid on microscopic level.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You know you can't discount the air inside it for mass and also count the air in calculating volume

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Fuckin brilliant.

8 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 0

I had the same question. Thanks @OP for explaining it so I could understand an not being a dick about it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No worries glad to help :)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So in that case, would it float in a vacuum? Or would it compress in on itself?

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It will not float in vaccum because the bouyancy force requires there be a heavier fluid-oil floats on water but not in a regular bottle.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Good question, I don't think it would float as gravity is still acting on it but possibly, and I would assume it would compress slightly

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

what would it float on in a vacuum?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Imagine air as it would water. This thing is light because of almost same density as water. If you remove air, then nothing keep it up.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well in a vacuum there'd be no air to 'float' on, so it would just fall due to gravity.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nothing floats in a vacuum if it’s a vacuum on Earth. Only objects in space (a vacuum) float due to the absence of gravity.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

It wont compress on itself in vaccum because the compression comes from isostatic pressure-from the air around. No air=no pressure

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