Feb 20, 2018 6:44 PM
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https://taskandpurpose.com/army-jrotc-medals-florida-shooting/
NightNova
no parents should have to bury their kids
Slasher2977
These are like the real life .gif posters. May they ride eternal. Shiny and chrome.
I'm ready for the downvotes that come with that statement
somecallmeFinn
You did good, Kids. You did good
fenix1441350
They acted better than most men I have seen with training and gear under fire while in Iraq and Afghanistan.
kwabenatokyere8
Look for the helpers
chrisdafish
Off topic but do they keep the swords
ArmyThrowAwayAccount
It is part of Drill and Ceremony most JROTC guys only learn to March and perform honors
Ihavenocluewhattocallmyself
Coming from an private in the army. These JROTC Cadets are the embodiment of the Army Values. I salute you.
badmedic504
Truly they are the best soldiers, core values unwavering.
indified
hoorah an private, hoorah
CavTrooper1960
Heroes All God bless and keep you in his loving arms Gerry Owen
DownvoteIsTheNewUpvote
this is what im talking about
DreamingZombies
Is it too much to ask to have the names in the right order?
Imkindofnewtothis
I really cried. This is so touching.
freewaydog
Also, West Point posthumously accepted Peter as a cadet. It was his dream school. RIP to all.
bathsaltfaceeater
o7
tokenhooker
Motherfucker...
AhhhThisStinks
https://twitter.com/WestPoint_USMA/status/966034889664598021
meeksmcgee
Hooah
Masada14
I teared up because they are so young and had so much potential. They are truly heroes.
Teathefae
thebesDog
They really seem that helped with racism they just saved lots of lives no need to discriminate we are all equal
hwatL4bloopy
young folks generally think that way. it's nice
RussainBot
As a vet, this makes me happy.
Crabsforeveryone
Goodnight, my warrior hearts. May Odin open the gates for you, brave ones.
cavett
Nobody will ever make fun of Peter Wang's name again. Straight up heroic Wang there
SayonaraSally
I'm gonna guess they aren't listed in the order of the photos.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Post humno medals for kods how about if that wasnt necesary
Taketheshot56
These kids have all the embodiment of real soldiers. But the fact that they had to lay down their lives in their place of learning. Horrific
Raecracy123abc
OMG I can't even handle the story I read here (of all the victims) but especially Peter. I started to cry then and even now like ugly cry.
trailhounds5772
But it is too late to talk about finding a way to stop this madness. These people's sacrifice shames us all.
KingKrown
So,how many more of these before something changes? How many more children need to die?
IsACouchASeat
I don't expect it is going to change.
That's what I think,but I very much want to be proven wrong.
You and me both. I would very much like to be proven wrong sooner than later.
flyingmonsters
There is a deeper issue here than guns
QuMark
Peter held open a door, allowing other students to escape. He put other's safety before his own.
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
He should get the Medal of Honor
Glassman62
Peter was also given an Honorary Acceptance to West Point.
secretagentdoubleobeaver
As a Marine Veteran, I usually poke fun at JROTC and ROTC cadets, but this is good shit!
nullcycle
Canada would like to present him with the highest order of honour
namiasdf
He deserved much better from his own country, so much better.
BATMANLADY
This is so sad!!!
BecozImBatman
normalizetherapy
Hodor..
RelativeVelocity
Bruh...
RadioFreqq
lifeviachris
Damn you....
Navery
Dammit I snorted, I’m going to hell.
Shewy92
What did the other 2 do?
alabamaredhead
They got murdered. What do you want from them? They were children.
TheMaXX37
Wtf? They were just asking a simple question. There was no blame or shame involved in their comment. Chill the fuck out dude.
You’re the one swearing and appearing much angrier in response to a question, not me
EKOasaripple
Couldnt find anything on the other two besides their membership to the JROTC. Im sure they all acted with courage above and beyond
Beeseik
Although I think its a good measure for healing to give this award, you have no way of being "sure" of this. People aren't heroes for dying.
ItsScaryTerryWitch
They out other people's lives before their own. That's a hero right there. All three of them died for classmates and faculty.
I know Wang did, but what about the other two?
LiberalViking
They are when they prevented the death of another.
theirownreward
Look at these babies... I'm so sorry.
and then they turn 18 and it's suddenly much more acceptable. this whole thing is fucked up.
litro
At least one of these babies (perhaps the three of them) showed more courage and sense of responsibility than most adults.
All three of them being in JROTC says that well enough. I'm 34 and still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. They deserved better.
Brutsarge
I’m just speechless. Honestly,...I hope EVERY kid in this generation votes NO! to any NRA supporter. Seems I can’t count on my generation
DrewsephStalin888
Appropriate to you then?: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374650-billboard-vandalized-to-read-kill-the-nra-after-florida
JohnSmithterms
Unfortunately the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. And many Americans seem to prefer death over the progressive removal of firearms.
Over time this should change but it might take a few more years of mass shootings for that to happen. Maybe even decades.
chiefs86
I often challenge anyone to figure out how to remove 350-360 million guns from the populace of the United States peacefully.
Oh no I think that would be insane. But you should be banning future sales today. It will take a hundred years to get to european levels.
But i have no doubt at all that mass murders would decline within 10 years if 90% of of gun models were banned from sale today.
As you know,....the NRA gives millions to the same politicians who do not want to take any action to institute gun control .
They’d rather do nothing than lose their seat. Complete inertia
Alkyone
Lots of trumpists in the comments. What are you trying to say, that a school shooting here and there is healthy? Pathetic degenerates.
You are an Imgur idiot
TCGreen
Literally no one is saying that, douche.
KyloSolo
Til Valhalla, my young heroes.
icantmakeanoriginalusernamesoichosethis
thedarkcanuck
No.
guitarjc55
They don't ID in Valhalla.
National recognition - they’re good for a brew if they so desire.
Vaya con Dios amigos.
UlfhednarSkol
Fuck man, I'm going to have a hard time finding a death as honorable as theirs...
As a combat veteran, these kids exemplified the epitome of heroism. Honored they may always be.
epiclong1
Me their names be shouted in the halls of Valhalla
Amen.
ActualNine
This is one of the few situations where so. Eine says that and it. They died in battle. The gates await them
What a train wreck of a sentence. My bad
notwhoutink
Nope. You need a weapon in your hands to go to valhalla.
Given their situation, I’m making an exception - entrance approved.
glitt3rpixi3bombsh3ll
seeing kids awarded posthumous bravery medals make me feel like we're living in some awful dystopian YA novel. strange times we live in.
AVeryTinyGyrados
We live in a world with bad people.
mallywanders
If it makes you feel better, a kid I knew got that medal while alive. He rescued someone from a burning plane.
More info: he saved 3 people from a plane crash at 14. Found the article from the plane crash, can't find the one about the medal, but I'm
One of the first people he got to show it off to.
LocalPumpkinHero
Christ this was four years ago and here we fucking are
wtforero
Love in the nyc area. Terrorist kills on No 1, 17, “we shouldn’t have refugees, not even 1”. Mass shootings, “we shouldn’t talk about guns”
10/1/17, info is available, abbreviations for character limit
myteenyverse
Your thought this 4 years ago… I wonder what your thoughts are now
accountabyss
Why not be happy and proud that such great people lived, and live up to their examples? Absolutely shameless comments, but no surprise here.
PlayingWithDynamite
Its disappointing that everyone has taken to politicizing this rather than acknowledge that bravery should be rewarded and emulated.
cogitoro
I'm just left a little bit hollow by posthumous military honors for children who died horrifically, preventably, and senselessly.
That is understandable, but its still valuable to promote and acknowledge the example these kids have set.
bc that's how you get complacent. my kids are frightened to go to school bc these things happen so often, but hey, at least some kids will
die for them if it occurs! no. i can't find a silver lining here...unthinkable that it happens in the first place.
pancreas
when reading news stories, pretend you're reading a fictional, dystopian story. It's hard to gain perspective on something that is "normal"
but if you imagine it's a story from fiction, or history, you start to notice just how fucked up things are. to put into perspective:
3)people living hundreds of years ago probably didnt realize how shitty their life/rulership was. now we are those people with corrupt govt
leetshoe
This is the army version of "thoughts and prayers"
If you go to a funeral, you still console the family. That kind of support and acknowledgement can be meaningful.
EGOT
I feel like it's for the family.
DMGuy
At least the army wasn't actually in a position to do anything to prevent this, unlike the politicians.
alRakoun
Republicans have got to support the NRA at any cost, son.
The NRA is made of millions of Americans who pay fees to fund a civil rights issue. Sad that people have to pay Congress to not be violated.
UsuallySpecial
*price, not cost. Both in lives and in “personal gifts”.
crcinau
Only in the US... The rest of the world doesn't have 19+ school shootings in the first month of the school year...
astinus
28 so far in 2018
NotaClipaMagazine
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2018/feb/15/jeff-greenfield/mostly-false-18-us-school-shootings-so-far-2018-an/
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Sorry, but that's still incredibly fucked up. Having to explain "oh, no, see these school shootings weren't *mass* shootings, just normal /1
everyday students shooting themselves and occasionally others". It's still an insane amount of shooting!!!! /2
One is too many. Why can't you make your point without lying? You're still doing it. In most of those nobody was even hurt.
Again, when you're talking about 350 million or so people, and the same amount of guns, it's really statistically small.
RobertNAdams
(1) We didn't have 19+ school shootings either unless you define someone popping off a shot in the parking lot as a "school shooting".
(2/2) http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2018/feb/15/jeff-greenfield/mostly-false-18-us-school-shootings-so-far-2018-an/
Oh, as long as every gun fired at a school doesn't kill someone - we can pretend that its all ok. Ya'll messed up America...
Sure, that's exactly what I said and in no way a gross misrepresentation of what I stated.
questionableanswers
Honest european opinion: The US is a looney-bin, it seems like a 3rd world country with 1st world money.
ScrapCode
As an American... you're not wrong
itsACoppa
Don't forget that the U.S has the most diverse population in the world, as well as being the 3rd most populated, and the 4th largest.
nijlonkai
Very accurate. Depressingly so.
Sadly, it is.
star1022
Most people don't consider the size and different cultures within America. 320 million, largest developed country by far, many subcultures.
j0hny0ss4ri4n
Shooting up school seems primarily happen in the dominant culture, though
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
Pretty much... but the freedom is pretty nice
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
We'll spend money on some nice fucking rims, but never put a dollar into a savings account. Go USA! /s
I mean why would they when you can collect welfare or other free shit. Just saying.
Why do you choose to work instead of just sitting on state's aid, yourself?
Me? Because I'm a moral person and don't take advantage of the system like so many do here in the States.
DangQuesadilla
Lmao do you have any idea how hard it is to get on welfare? Making it sound like a walk in the park
Lol must be pretty easy. Based on all the people I know who have it
twofishtails
Oh, btw, the ratio of Europeans wanting to migrate to the USA vs us wanting to go there is over 40 to 1.
Chanarach
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikipedian_protester.png
Uh, you got your answer there. Wiki "European Mugration to the USA".
sighnotagainohno
Citations definitely needed
Really? Check European immigration to the USA, lol.
Omfg, PROVIDE LINKS. It's not hard. Let us see your sources
In a way, yes. When people knew the problem and our FBI failed, our politicians believe Americans should lose freedom, and many people agree
Not only do we literally have a lot of third-world immigrating here, about half the people are as stupid as they are about American rights.
mrsuzukiami
Because we don't pretend Romania isn't attached to our continent.
TheMightyElk
The United States is an amazing country that we allowed to be run by corruption and corporations and no longer by its citizens. 1/2
I agree with you but I must ask: is a country truly run by its citizens if only its government weilds the ultimate power, violence?
adaylateandaeuroshort
well, the citizens make the choice of who they are handing the ultimate powers too.Supposedly responsible adult citizens,who you know,think.
You called. It. Exept people don't think. They agree and are complacent. Most people in America don't even know what makes it so great. 1/2
We've allowed governance in areas like parantage and education and care that should have been personal responsibility. And the people who 2/
Eh. Massive entitlement issues has also made personal responsibility largely impossible, looking in from outside.
Govern and make these decisions are corrupted and selfish. We the people became we the corporate. (downvote preparedness complete)
Sc00ba5teeve
Upvote-downvote-upvote. I think providing a minimum standard or education is important; we're just doing a shit job of it.
xrufus7x
Imgur is generally pretty left leaning. Your internet points are probably safe.
keillrandor
This is because your founders didn't learn all the lessons they needed to from Magna Carta on economics vs politics.
Anyone who reads that and ONLY thinks of taxes, is part of the problem, because the relationship is broader than that.
I think alot. Of it has to do with the fact that the majority of. My. Graduate class. (and others) aren't even literate. Added. To. The 1/?
No - the roots of the problems the US currently has run DEEP - problems you mention are SYMPTOMS, nothing more.
Fact that history is "uncool" and learning is for. "nerds" America has become a society of imbeciles. Our overarching system.of 2/?
I'm guessing that the downvoters really don't understand Magna Carta much at all...
The Magna Carta was, first and foremost, a document limiting the economic existence of King John in relation to the Barons.
The problem is that most people focus purely on the political aims of the Magna Carta and ignore the economic. Big mistake.
Once the economic relationship had been defined, the political relationship had meaning, and could be ENFORCED.
This is the lesson of Magna Carta - manage political power by first managing economic power. The first REQUIRES the latter.
Enjoy Sharia law while you collect lifetime welfare for being a junkie until the Russians take over your country.
Sieg fucking heil you god damned degenerate.
Uh, nazism started in Europe, as I recall.
Can't provide citations for a dubious migration claim, but can fish for red herrings easily
Nobody tell him that Russia took over America last year
Desloratadine
+1
ConfuMeister
Found the bietbart junkie .
IZ42
Oh shut the fuck up.
Truth hurts.
There was literally one correct set of words there and that was "lifetime welfare" and that's because that's the smart thing to do.
[deleted]
Right, Canada. World leader in science, medicine, movies, music, athletes, education. No wonder the United Nations is based in Ottawa.
The thing I notice the most, is the poverty. Homeless everywhere, nowhere to go, no help, nothing. Baffles me as a Canadian.
There are places for homeless people to live, shelters, etc, but the ones you see on the streets are the ones that get kicked out of...
(2) said shelters for endangering the other people, bringing drugs/alcohol in, or otherwise bad behavior issues.
In Canada, when I go out with my family, I don't worry about my sisters. When we visit USA my head is on a 24/7 swivel.
Don't see why . Violent crime has dropped over 50% in recent years. Most successful crime reduction in history.
ieru00
In case people didn't know, there is a petition to have Peter buried with full military honors.
imnotryan
he was already buried.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-cadet-peter-wang-receive-full-honors-military-burial
Komer
Signed - love from Australia
I mean he isn't in the military so doesn't make sense.
Junior recruits Officer training Corps
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.military.com/benefits/burial-and-memorial/military-funeral-honors.html/amp
They have done stuff like this for ROTC cadets. Matt Laporte of Virginia Tech is an example
No it wasn't. He was given a medal and that was all. He wasn't given a full military funeral, that an enlisted soldier would get.
styvan
His burial was today from what I heard
tonx916
PenguinsAreOkayIguess
Yea I agree. The kid did something very honorablebut he wasn't enlisted.
skelitor120
I love that some people think that wearing a uniform but ultimately doing nothing entitles you to a 'honorable funeral' but literally--
If this kid's life wasn't tragically cut 40-50 years short then I'm almost positive he would've been a full officer in about 10-20 of them
-- dying for your classmates as a TEENAGER isn't good enough because you were only TRAINING to be enlisted and you weren't fully enlisted
He isn't. He's just in a commissioned program run by the military, using DoD funds, involving uniforming and training cadets. Totally--
-- not even close.
Lol JROTC isn't the same as joining the military. Hence the petition for it.
You're so right. I would fucking HATE it if we EVER got so disrespectful to our armed forces that we give something so IMPORTANT as a --
-- the process. Such a stupid idea, amirite? Why don't you just enlist u wannabe JROTC Kid.. wait.. oh.. he's dead. That's right. /s
-- military burial ceremony to some KID who did NOTHING with his life but save the lives of his classmates, selflessly losing his in --
ROTC and to a lesser extent JROTC are essentially "fingers" of the military arms. Like roots... or recruiting offices
Congrats, you can google things. If I had a penny for every time a rule was bent or broken I'd have a enough to buy a couple sodas.
The military is made up of people, not stacks of regulations. At a high enough level, leadership can do anything they want.
Ok, and again not enlisted and don't have the same rights as those that are would have
Out of curiosity, are you a member?
No I'm not but I have respect for them and their traditions.
Thats a fair point, but military honors are to salute those who have earned that respect. Don't you think that this is worthy of that?
Those that earned the respect IN THE MILITARY
For anyone about to go down the rabbit-hole of a retarded argument this asshole's trying to give, just know he's wrong; nobody in the--
military is as stingy about funerals for DEAD CHILDREN as he is, and they've given funerals like what we're proposing before (proof follows)
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2015/04/14/virginia-tech-cadet-honored-for-saving-lives-in-2007-campus-massacre/
Where does that say he was given a military funeral? All it says is he was given a medal. You dumb fuck
His tombstone, the pictures of them giving him the funeral, etc.
NightNova
no parents should have to bury their kids
Slasher2977
These are like the real life .gif posters. May they ride eternal. Shiny and chrome.
Slasher2977
I'm ready for the downvotes that come with that statement
somecallmeFinn
You did good, Kids. You did good
fenix1441350
They acted better than most men I have seen with training and gear under fire while in Iraq and Afghanistan.
kwabenatokyere8
Look for the helpers
chrisdafish
Off topic but do they keep the swords
ArmyThrowAwayAccount
It is part of Drill and Ceremony most JROTC guys only learn to March and perform honors
Ihavenocluewhattocallmyself
Coming from an private in the army. These JROTC Cadets are the embodiment of the Army Values. I salute you.
badmedic504
Truly they are the best soldiers, core values unwavering.
indified
hoorah an private, hoorah
CavTrooper1960
Heroes All God bless and keep you in his loving arms Gerry Owen
DownvoteIsTheNewUpvote
this is what im talking about
DreamingZombies
Is it too much to ask to have the names in the right order?
Imkindofnewtothis
I really cried. This is so touching.
freewaydog
Also, West Point posthumously accepted Peter as a cadet. It was his dream school. RIP to all.
bathsaltfaceeater
o7
tokenhooker
Motherfucker...
AhhhThisStinks
https://twitter.com/WestPoint_USMA/status/966034889664598021
meeksmcgee
Hooah
Masada14
I teared up because they are so young and had so much potential. They are truly heroes.
Teathefae
thebesDog
They really seem that helped with racism they just saved lots of lives no need to discriminate we are all equal
hwatL4bloopy
young folks generally think that way. it's nice
RussainBot
As a vet, this makes me happy.
Crabsforeveryone
Goodnight, my warrior hearts. May Odin open the gates for you, brave ones.
cavett
Nobody will ever make fun of Peter Wang's name again. Straight up heroic Wang there
SayonaraSally
I'm gonna guess they aren't listed in the order of the photos.
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Post humno medals for kods how about if that wasnt necesary
Taketheshot56
These kids have all the embodiment of real soldiers. But the fact that they had to lay down their lives in their place of learning. Horrific
Raecracy123abc
OMG I can't even handle the story I read here (of all the victims) but especially Peter. I started to cry then and even now like ugly cry.
trailhounds5772
But it is too late to talk about finding a way to stop this madness. These people's sacrifice shames us all.
KingKrown
So,how many more of these before something changes? How many more children need to die?
IsACouchASeat
I don't expect it is going to change.
KingKrown
That's what I think,but I very much want to be proven wrong.
IsACouchASeat
You and me both. I would very much like to be proven wrong sooner than later.
flyingmonsters
There is a deeper issue here than guns
QuMark
Peter held open a door, allowing other students to escape. He put other's safety before his own.
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
He should get the Medal of Honor
Glassman62
Peter was also given an Honorary Acceptance to West Point.
secretagentdoubleobeaver
As a Marine Veteran, I usually poke fun at JROTC and ROTC cadets, but this is good shit!
nullcycle
Canada would like to present him with the highest order of honour
namiasdf
He deserved much better from his own country, so much better.
BATMANLADY
This is so sad!!!
BecozImBatman
normalizetherapy
Hodor..
RelativeVelocity
Bruh...
RadioFreqq
lifeviachris
Damn you....
Navery
Dammit I snorted, I’m going to hell.
Shewy92
What did the other 2 do?
alabamaredhead
They got murdered. What do you want from them? They were children.
TheMaXX37
Wtf? They were just asking a simple question. There was no blame or shame involved in their comment. Chill the fuck out dude.
alabamaredhead
You’re the one swearing and appearing much angrier in response to a question, not me
EKOasaripple
Couldnt find anything on the other two besides their membership to the JROTC. Im sure they all acted with courage above and beyond
Beeseik
Although I think its a good measure for healing to give this award, you have no way of being "sure" of this. People aren't heroes for dying.
ItsScaryTerryWitch
They out other people's lives before their own. That's a hero right there. All three of them died for classmates and faculty.
Beeseik
I know Wang did, but what about the other two?
LiberalViking
They are when they prevented the death of another.
theirownreward
Look at these babies... I'm so sorry.
hwatL4bloopy
and then they turn 18 and it's suddenly much more acceptable. this whole thing is fucked up.
litro
At least one of these babies (perhaps the three of them) showed more courage and sense of responsibility than most adults.
theirownreward
All three of them being in JROTC says that well enough. I'm 34 and still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. They deserved better.
Brutsarge
I’m just speechless. Honestly,...I hope EVERY kid in this generation votes NO! to any NRA supporter. Seems I can’t count on my generation
DrewsephStalin888
Appropriate to you then?: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374650-billboard-vandalized-to-read-kill-the-nra-after-florida
JohnSmithterms
Unfortunately the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. And many Americans seem to prefer death over the progressive removal of firearms.
JohnSmithterms
Over time this should change but it might take a few more years of mass shootings for that to happen. Maybe even decades.
chiefs86
I often challenge anyone to figure out how to remove 350-360 million guns from the populace of the United States peacefully.
JohnSmithterms
Oh no I think that would be insane. But you should be banning future sales today. It will take a hundred years to get to european levels.
JohnSmithterms
But i have no doubt at all that mass murders would decline within 10 years if 90% of of gun models were banned from sale today.
Brutsarge
As you know,....the NRA gives millions to the same politicians who do not want to take any action to institute gun control .
Brutsarge
They’d rather do nothing than lose their seat. Complete inertia
Alkyone
Lots of trumpists in the comments. What are you trying to say, that a school shooting here and there is healthy? Pathetic degenerates.
flyingmonsters
You are an Imgur idiot
TCGreen
Literally no one is saying that, douche.
KyloSolo
Til Valhalla, my young heroes.
icantmakeanoriginalusernamesoichosethis
thedarkcanuck
No.
guitarjc55
They don't ID in Valhalla.
KyloSolo
National recognition - they’re good for a brew if they so desire.
RussainBot
Vaya con Dios amigos.
UlfhednarSkol
Fuck man, I'm going to have a hard time finding a death as honorable as theirs...
KyloSolo
As a combat veteran, these kids exemplified the epitome of heroism. Honored they may always be.
epiclong1
Me their names be shouted in the halls of Valhalla
KyloSolo
Amen.
ActualNine
This is one of the few situations where so. Eine says that and it. They died in battle. The gates await them
ActualNine
What a train wreck of a sentence. My bad
notwhoutink
Nope. You need a weapon in your hands to go to valhalla.
KyloSolo
Given their situation, I’m making an exception - entrance approved.
glitt3rpixi3bombsh3ll
seeing kids awarded posthumous bravery medals make me feel like we're living in some awful dystopian YA novel. strange times we live in.
AVeryTinyGyrados
We live in a world with bad people.
mallywanders
If it makes you feel better, a kid I knew got that medal while alive. He rescued someone from a burning plane.
mallywanders
More info: he saved 3 people from a plane crash at 14. Found the article from the plane crash, can't find the one about the medal, but I'm
mallywanders
One of the first people he got to show it off to.
LocalPumpkinHero
Christ this was four years ago and here we fucking are
wtforero
Love in the nyc area. Terrorist kills on No 1, 17, “we shouldn’t have refugees, not even 1”. Mass shootings, “we shouldn’t talk about guns”
wtforero
10/1/17, info is available, abbreviations for character limit
myteenyverse
Your thought this 4 years ago… I wonder what your thoughts are now
accountabyss
Why not be happy and proud that such great people lived, and live up to their examples? Absolutely shameless comments, but no surprise here.
PlayingWithDynamite
Its disappointing that everyone has taken to politicizing this rather than acknowledge that bravery should be rewarded and emulated.
cogitoro
I'm just left a little bit hollow by posthumous military honors for children who died horrifically, preventably, and senselessly.
PlayingWithDynamite
That is understandable, but its still valuable to promote and acknowledge the example these kids have set.
glitt3rpixi3bombsh3ll
bc that's how you get complacent. my kids are frightened to go to school bc these things happen so often, but hey, at least some kids will
glitt3rpixi3bombsh3ll
die for them if it occurs! no. i can't find a silver lining here...unthinkable that it happens in the first place.
pancreas
when reading news stories, pretend you're reading a fictional, dystopian story. It's hard to gain perspective on something that is "normal"
pancreas
but if you imagine it's a story from fiction, or history, you start to notice just how fucked up things are. to put into perspective:
pancreas
3)people living hundreds of years ago probably didnt realize how shitty their life/rulership was. now we are those people with corrupt govt
leetshoe
This is the army version of "thoughts and prayers"
PlayingWithDynamite
If you go to a funeral, you still console the family. That kind of support and acknowledgement can be meaningful.
EGOT
I feel like it's for the family.
DMGuy
At least the army wasn't actually in a position to do anything to prevent this, unlike the politicians.
alRakoun
Republicans have got to support the NRA at any cost, son.
accountabyss
The NRA is made of millions of Americans who pay fees to fund a civil rights issue. Sad that people have to pay Congress to not be violated.
UsuallySpecial
*price, not cost. Both in lives and in “personal gifts”.
crcinau
Only in the US... The rest of the world doesn't have 19+ school shootings in the first month of the school year...
astinus
28 so far in 2018
NotaClipaMagazine
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2018/feb/15/jeff-greenfield/mostly-false-18-us-school-shootings-so-far-2018-an/
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Sorry, but that's still incredibly fucked up. Having to explain "oh, no, see these school shootings weren't *mass* shootings, just normal /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
everyday students shooting themselves and occasionally others". It's still an insane amount of shooting!!!! /2
NotaClipaMagazine
One is too many. Why can't you make your point without lying? You're still doing it. In most of those nobody was even hurt.
chiefs86
Again, when you're talking about 350 million or so people, and the same amount of guns, it's really statistically small.
RobertNAdams
(1) We didn't have 19+ school shootings either unless you define someone popping off a shot in the parking lot as a "school shooting".
RobertNAdams
(2/2) http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2018/feb/15/jeff-greenfield/mostly-false-18-us-school-shootings-so-far-2018-an/
crcinau
Oh, as long as every gun fired at a school doesn't kill someone - we can pretend that its all ok. Ya'll messed up America...
RobertNAdams
Sure, that's exactly what I said and in no way a gross misrepresentation of what I stated.
questionableanswers
Honest european opinion: The US is a looney-bin, it seems like a 3rd world country with 1st world money.
ScrapCode
As an American... you're not wrong
itsACoppa
Don't forget that the U.S has the most diverse population in the world, as well as being the 3rd most populated, and the 4th largest.
nijlonkai
Very accurate. Depressingly so.
astinus
Sadly, it is.
star1022
Most people don't consider the size and different cultures within America. 320 million, largest developed country by far, many subcultures.
j0hny0ss4ri4n
Shooting up school seems primarily happen in the dominant culture, though
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
Pretty much... but the freedom is pretty nice
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
We'll spend money on some nice fucking rims, but never put a dollar into a savings account. Go USA! /s
flyingmonsters
I mean why would they when you can collect welfare or other free shit. Just saying.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Why do you choose to work instead of just sitting on state's aid, yourself?
flyingmonsters
Me? Because I'm a moral person and don't take advantage of the system like so many do here in the States.
DangQuesadilla
Lmao do you have any idea how hard it is to get on welfare? Making it sound like a walk in the park
flyingmonsters
Lol must be pretty easy. Based on all the people I know who have it
twofishtails
Oh, btw, the ratio of Europeans wanting to migrate to the USA vs us wanting to go there is over 40 to 1.
Chanarach
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikipedian_protester.png
twofishtails
Uh, you got your answer there. Wiki "European Mugration to the USA".
sighnotagainohno
Citations definitely needed
twofishtails
Really? Check European immigration to the USA, lol.
sighnotagainohno
Omfg, PROVIDE LINKS. It's not hard. Let us see your sources
accountabyss
In a way, yes. When people knew the problem and our FBI failed, our politicians believe Americans should lose freedom, and many people agree
accountabyss
Not only do we literally have a lot of third-world immigrating here, about half the people are as stupid as they are about American rights.
mrsuzukiami
Because we don't pretend Romania isn't attached to our continent.
TheMightyElk
The United States is an amazing country that we allowed to be run by corruption and corporations and no longer by its citizens. 1/2
litro
I agree with you but I must ask: is a country truly run by its citizens if only its government weilds the ultimate power, violence?
adaylateandaeuroshort
well, the citizens make the choice of who they are handing the ultimate powers too.Supposedly responsible adult citizens,who you know,think.
TheMightyElk
You called. It. Exept people don't think. They agree and are complacent. Most people in America don't even know what makes it so great. 1/2
TheMightyElk
We've allowed governance in areas like parantage and education and care that should have been personal responsibility. And the people who 2/
UsuallySpecial
Eh. Massive entitlement issues has also made personal responsibility largely impossible, looking in from outside.
TheMightyElk
Govern and make these decisions are corrupted and selfish. We the people became we the corporate. (downvote preparedness complete)
Sc00ba5teeve
Upvote-downvote-upvote. I think providing a minimum standard or education is important; we're just doing a shit job of it.
xrufus7x
Imgur is generally pretty left leaning. Your internet points are probably safe.
keillrandor
This is because your founders didn't learn all the lessons they needed to from Magna Carta on economics vs politics.
keillrandor
Anyone who reads that and ONLY thinks of taxes, is part of the problem, because the relationship is broader than that.
TheMightyElk
I think alot. Of it has to do with the fact that the majority of. My. Graduate class. (and others) aren't even literate. Added. To. The 1/?
keillrandor
No - the roots of the problems the US currently has run DEEP - problems you mention are SYMPTOMS, nothing more.
TheMightyElk
Fact that history is "uncool" and learning is for. "nerds" America has become a society of imbeciles. Our overarching system.of 2/?
keillrandor
I'm guessing that the downvoters really don't understand Magna Carta much at all...
keillrandor
The Magna Carta was, first and foremost, a document limiting the economic existence of King John in relation to the Barons.
keillrandor
The problem is that most people focus purely on the political aims of the Magna Carta and ignore the economic. Big mistake.
keillrandor
Once the economic relationship had been defined, the political relationship had meaning, and could be ENFORCED.
keillrandor
This is the lesson of Magna Carta - manage political power by first managing economic power. The first REQUIRES the latter.
twofishtails
Enjoy Sharia law while you collect lifetime welfare for being a junkie until the Russians take over your country.
alRakoun
Sieg fucking heil you god damned degenerate.
twofishtails
Uh, nazism started in Europe, as I recall.
sighnotagainohno
Can't provide citations for a dubious migration claim, but can fish for red herrings easily
sighnotagainohno
Nobody tell him that Russia took over America last year
Desloratadine
+1
ConfuMeister
Found the bietbart junkie .
IZ42
Oh shut the fuck up.
twofishtails
Truth hurts.
IZ42
There was literally one correct set of words there and that was "lifetime welfare" and that's because that's the smart thing to do.
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twofishtails
Right, Canada. World leader in science, medicine, movies, music, athletes, education. No wonder the United Nations is based in Ottawa.
namiasdf
The thing I notice the most, is the poverty. Homeless everywhere, nowhere to go, no help, nothing. Baffles me as a Canadian.
chiefs86
There are places for homeless people to live, shelters, etc, but the ones you see on the streets are the ones that get kicked out of...
chiefs86
(2) said shelters for endangering the other people, bringing drugs/alcohol in, or otherwise bad behavior issues.
namiasdf
In Canada, when I go out with my family, I don't worry about my sisters. When we visit USA my head is on a 24/7 swivel.
twofishtails
Don't see why . Violent crime has dropped over 50% in recent years. Most successful crime reduction in history.
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ieru00
In case people didn't know, there is a petition to have Peter buried with full military honors.
imnotryan
he was already buried.
ieru00
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-cadet-peter-wang-receive-full-honors-military-burial
Komer
Signed - love from Australia
flyingmonsters
I mean he isn't in the military so doesn't make sense.
epiclong1
Junior recruits Officer training Corps
flyingmonsters
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.military.com/benefits/burial-and-memorial/military-funeral-honors.html/amp
ArmyThrowAwayAccount
They have done stuff like this for ROTC cadets. Matt Laporte of Virginia Tech is an example
flyingmonsters
No it wasn't. He was given a medal and that was all. He wasn't given a full military funeral, that an enlisted soldier would get.
styvan
His burial was today from what I heard
tonx916
PenguinsAreOkayIguess
Yea I agree. The kid did something very honorablebut he wasn't enlisted.
skelitor120
I love that some people think that wearing a uniform but ultimately doing nothing entitles you to a 'honorable funeral' but literally--
skelitor120
If this kid's life wasn't tragically cut 40-50 years short then I'm almost positive he would've been a full officer in about 10-20 of them
skelitor120
-- dying for your classmates as a TEENAGER isn't good enough because you were only TRAINING to be enlisted and you weren't fully enlisted
skelitor120
He isn't. He's just in a commissioned program run by the military, using DoD funds, involving uniforming and training cadets. Totally--
skelitor120
-- not even close.
flyingmonsters
Lol JROTC isn't the same as joining the military. Hence the petition for it.
skelitor120
You're so right. I would fucking HATE it if we EVER got so disrespectful to our armed forces that we give something so IMPORTANT as a --
skelitor120
-- the process. Such a stupid idea, amirite? Why don't you just enlist u wannabe JROTC Kid.. wait.. oh.. he's dead. That's right. /s
skelitor120
-- military burial ceremony to some KID who did NOTHING with his life but save the lives of his classmates, selflessly losing his in --
PlayingWithDynamite
ROTC and to a lesser extent JROTC are essentially "fingers" of the military arms. Like roots... or recruiting offices
flyingmonsters
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.military.com/benefits/burial-and-memorial/military-funeral-honors.html/amp
PlayingWithDynamite
Congrats, you can google things. If I had a penny for every time a rule was bent or broken I'd have a enough to buy a couple sodas.
PlayingWithDynamite
The military is made up of people, not stacks of regulations. At a high enough level, leadership can do anything they want.
flyingmonsters
Ok, and again not enlisted and don't have the same rights as those that are would have
PlayingWithDynamite
Out of curiosity, are you a member?
flyingmonsters
No I'm not but I have respect for them and their traditions.
PlayingWithDynamite
Thats a fair point, but military honors are to salute those who have earned that respect. Don't you think that this is worthy of that?
flyingmonsters
Those that earned the respect IN THE MILITARY
skelitor120
For anyone about to go down the rabbit-hole of a retarded argument this asshole's trying to give, just know he's wrong; nobody in the--
skelitor120
military is as stingy about funerals for DEAD CHILDREN as he is, and they've given funerals like what we're proposing before (proof follows)
skelitor120
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2015/04/14/virginia-tech-cadet-honored-for-saving-lives-in-2007-campus-massacre/
flyingmonsters
Where does that say he was given a military funeral? All it says is he was given a medal. You dumb fuck
skelitor120
His tombstone, the pictures of them giving him the funeral, etc.
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