Oct 20, 2021 9:37 AM
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finetoroastasimamarshmallow
Some aholes that understood that most people’s eyes and teeth health declines over the years. Too costly and common… cheap bastards
or0b0ur0s
The same people who decided preexisting conditions, office visits, ambulance service & drug copays shouldn't, either. Next up? Hospital >
food, probably, IDK. Won't it be fun to pay $100 for cafeteria-quality salisbury steak & jello while you recover from your appendectomy?
DesdemonaMoor
Considering an infected tooth can make you terribly ill.
mycatsnameismessiahweeeee
I have an uncle that almost died because he had an infected tooth and the infection spread to his heart. Scary shit
yoshmagosh
My mom needs to get implants done and after her consult they told her it’s 27,000 - she walked out and told them she’s denture it up
chardlz
Insurance works on risk pooling. Dental and Vision are cheaper separated out from health because you don't have to share the expensive risks
Lifetime cost of dental is probably less than a year of chemo for a cancer patient. Splitting them out keeps premiums lower, and costs down
littlefoxpounce
This is why companies consider them luxury bones. They know it'll kill you if you don't pay out the ass to keep them
heyguysimtom
Actuarials
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
Doctors only work inside bones. The idea of outside bones terrify them. Hence, specialized outside bone surgeons.
ApplebeesOfficial
Ever hear of anyone getting bit by a femur? Dentists are just inside bone doctors with OSHA bite saftey certification
literallymike
Shhh, don't give them any ideas on how to carve us up further.
blzrdphoto
Eyes are also luxury organs.
NaughtyCannibal
Lobyist.
UnagiFerrin
The insurance companies
Azazellosarmour
America’s healthcare was not for profit and the envy of the world until Republicans “improved” it. Now it’s the most expensive in the world
SomeDetroitGuy
The bigger issue is pay-per-procedure. Non-profit and government-run health care in the US is stupidly expensive, too.
The USA has the most expensive healthcare system in the world. Far more expensive than not for profit. Note, not for profit and government
arandomfish
Yeah, there's multiple interlocking issues but I don't even know how to respond to "pay per procedure is the biggest problem." It's nuts.
run are two different things, not sure if you’re working some of that “gubmint bad” trope.
TheeRealDuke
The truth? 1840, Baltimore. "The Rebuff" the story is crazy.
Nikolai5
Yeah, even in the UK we pay for dental care if we have a job. Pretty weird having to pay a couple hundred quid for a root canal and crown
when the alternative to that is potentially die of infection.
Wmcmwa
Extraction is a band 2 fee and solves the health problem
ImKindaLikeBatman
If it becomes life threatening then I believe you are covered on NHS. It's just you'll have to deal with all the shit before then
I think A&E will pull a tooth for free if you can't sleep with the pain
StorytellingSalem
Run for office. Theres legit people running and getting paid to run to profit off you being in poverty. Run for office to fix it. Itll be
Hard. Itll be even harder if you dont. Lorax up. Its 2022- run for office
Ayecantread
People financially comfortable enough to campaign for election probably don't scroll imgur. It's a nice thought though...
Im not talkinggn about those people im talking about your broke ass. Run for office
SweetBabyJesus
I can't. I'm broke.
Vojens
That's fine. Vote in the PRIMARY. Centrist Democrats don't cut it anymore.
Literally everyone who represents me at every level is a pro-government healthcare Democrat. They aren't the ones blocking this.
Ezekiel117
Republicunts?
Thank you for voting. You not worrying about that part is in thanks to your community doing their part. Keep up the good fight homie!
Gibramovic
Rich people obviously
KiteFlyingPianist
Not really something to laugh about, if you ask me.
beezzarro
Greedtards did
elganif
Dentists did - because they dont want to deal with pricing thats set by insurance companies or regulated.
Gameskyjumper
because eye doctor/school and dentist/school had branch out and started their own industries.
spinbutton3
I just re-upped my work insurance for next year. A separate sign up for hospitalizations, a separate one for critical illness...
rowingrowingrowing
A separate one for “cancer treatment” (that taps out at $150k). A separate one for “emergency transportation”. We are so fucked.
Making health insurance more complicated is how the insurers avoid covering us when we need it. I'm disgusted
[deleted]
I totally agree.
SentientSpork
I work for an auto/home insurer, and can't follow any of my own policies, especially health. I would say that the complexity is a weird 1/2
2/2 interaction of insurance having 50+ regulators across health and finance, historical legal cases, and for-profit health ins being wrong.
The policies are deliberately confusing so the customer can't make an informed decision easily. Auto and home are fine and useful. But...
Health insurance is a total racket.
FailedCrate
German healthcare: lololol, no free denture/glasses stuff for you! Also german healthcare: roflflfl, here, get some homeopathic shit!
florpglorp
The gamblers/billionaires who run the health insurance companies.
nn3vinn
Snobbery really. Dentists, Optometrist, and Chiropractors are looked as lesser than in the medical community
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
When I was a kid my dentist removed a root from a severely damaged molar. Without. Any. Anesthetic.
Till this day I suffer from anxiety just by thinking that I need to go to the dentist
I've had many good dentists afterwards, but I takes a LOT of pain for me to decide to go to one
And even then, I prefer to medicate myself than to go to one, because, somehow, they all seem to just don't care about fears and whatnot
A friend was with me that day. He couldn't believe it.
lolitsmike
They realized that they could make more money with different insurances
BroccoliCock
When my son was 2 he knocked out a baby tooth that...well it was kind of attached. Took him to the ER due to the bleeding. He sat (1/2)
(2/2) an hour, did nothing and told us to go see a dentist. Got billed for the ER and had to also get dental ins. and pay upfront costs.
chrisat928
Bad teeth will kill you.
pixelhigh
But you can work with bad teeth.
StryderX
H boy I sure hope so
nclu
Lost a friend at 40 because getting his teeth fixed triggered amyloidosis. It was incredibly sad
Baalzak
That's why it's so important to train them while they're young.
orbitn
i have dentinogenesis imperfecta. or should say, had. because what's left of my teeth.. it really doesn't matter what they had or have. >
I broke a tooth on a gummy bear last week. A fucking gummy bear. They all need to come out. I'm on disability aned medicare. I can't >
afford that shit and there's only a matter of time before infection hits - there's no root but there's still that nice open canal since the>
gutta percha fell out (a rubber cork for your root channel they put in after a root canal. I have more root remnants than teeth. Im ashamed
to speak. Fuck the healthcare system of this country, fuck it very much
DarkwingDuc
And regular eye exams can detect serious health issues like diabetes & high blood pressure early, so they can be treated more effectively.
svennisiggi
God i hope so.
Joylove
Luxury bones.
Massagesbutts
Not if I won't let zombies bite me.
MyDogsNameIsSally
Then vote Vermin Supreme. He will ensure a mandatory tooth brushing law, and the zombies will be busy powering our cities.
JackieTreehornProductions
Gum disease has a strong correlation to heart disease also
ezpozito
didnt they also find that oral hygiene was directly related to memory problems in old age?
might be Alzheimer's causes it or vice versa i cannot remember
https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/large-study-links-gum-disease-dementia
oh no *brushes teeth*
Xandelle
Tooth pain is the worst pain IMO. A rotting nerve or dry socket makes your entire face and head throb. My wisdom tooth removal sucked so bad
zeiji
i mean, it's not like the correlation between gum disease and heart disease is high, it's very high.
Bad teeth will make you want to die before they kill you.
Level21Magikarp
Cast Away taught me a one step solution to this problem.
LurkerOfDarkness
*wish granted*
KPuff
I just had a crowned tooth break off at the gum line. I now need an implant. Fun stuff.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
I had 21 teeth removed 15 years ago as my, at that time, paranoid schizophrenia made me unable to brush my teeth. I was in utter agony. 1/2
hahaopossum
How long did you not brush your teeth? Asking for myself because I have issues with it personally
It happened over 2 years. Soda helped greatly.
I now wear dentures, that are broken, ‘cause I can’t afford the $1400 to replace them. My jaw joints hurt due to this. 2/2
JeffwiththeNukes
Are you on medicare or medicaid?
Neither - I’m Danish.
SandAndLooney79
Fuck this world. I’m sorry the system sucks. You deserve better.
Funny thing is, I’m Danish, so for the most part the system actually works for me. But not teeth. Fuck people with bad teeth, apparently.
ijustmadeanaccounttoargue
So will good teeth.
Sechran
Ironically, it's cited that a bad tooth was what drove the Tsavo lions to eat dozens of people in Africa at the end of the 19th Century.
Same. Glad I got that thing pulled finally.
hiphopchinashop
I pay for my.bad ears too
What?
Excuse.me?
Pardon?
ElbowDeepInBillCosby
They are full of mORAL decay
emjay9010
And the GUMption to try get away with it.
Thank you for the follow up lol
vxgjhf
M'Oral decay.
AyyBbyUWanSumFukk
Get out.
Housemaster
... of my dreams, and into my car!
I get that a lot of places
DarkUranium
Like Bill Cosby's house?
Hahahahahahahaha, yes
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
Some aholes that understood that most people’s eyes and teeth health declines over the years. Too costly and common… cheap bastards
or0b0ur0s
The same people who decided preexisting conditions, office visits, ambulance service & drug copays shouldn't, either. Next up? Hospital >
or0b0ur0s
food, probably, IDK. Won't it be fun to pay $100 for cafeteria-quality salisbury steak & jello while you recover from your appendectomy?
DesdemonaMoor
Considering an infected tooth can make you terribly ill.
mycatsnameismessiahweeeee
I have an uncle that almost died because he had an infected tooth and the infection spread to his heart. Scary shit
yoshmagosh
My mom needs to get implants done and after her consult they told her it’s 27,000 - she walked out and told them she’s denture it up
chardlz
Insurance works on risk pooling. Dental and Vision are cheaper separated out from health because you don't have to share the expensive risks
chardlz
Lifetime cost of dental is probably less than a year of chemo for a cancer patient. Splitting them out keeps premiums lower, and costs down
littlefoxpounce
This is why companies consider them luxury bones. They know it'll kill you if you don't pay out the ass to keep them
heyguysimtom
Actuarials
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
Doctors only work inside bones. The idea of outside bones terrify them. Hence, specialized outside bone surgeons.
ApplebeesOfficial
Ever hear of anyone getting bit by a femur? Dentists are just inside bone doctors with OSHA bite saftey certification
literallymike
Shhh, don't give them any ideas on how to carve us up further.
blzrdphoto
Eyes are also luxury organs.
NaughtyCannibal
Lobyist.
UnagiFerrin
The insurance companies
Azazellosarmour
America’s healthcare was not for profit and the envy of the world until Republicans “improved” it. Now it’s the most expensive in the world
SomeDetroitGuy
The bigger issue is pay-per-procedure. Non-profit and government-run health care in the US is stupidly expensive, too.
Azazellosarmour
The USA has the most expensive healthcare system in the world. Far more expensive than not for profit. Note, not for profit and government
arandomfish
Yeah, there's multiple interlocking issues but I don't even know how to respond to "pay per procedure is the biggest problem." It's nuts.
Azazellosarmour
run are two different things, not sure if you’re working some of that “gubmint bad” trope.
TheeRealDuke
The truth? 1840, Baltimore. "The Rebuff" the story is crazy.
Nikolai5
Yeah, even in the UK we pay for dental care if we have a job. Pretty weird having to pay a couple hundred quid for a root canal and crown
Nikolai5
when the alternative to that is potentially die of infection.
Wmcmwa
Extraction is a band 2 fee and solves the health problem
ImKindaLikeBatman
If it becomes life threatening then I believe you are covered on NHS. It's just you'll have to deal with all the shit before then
ImKindaLikeBatman
I think A&E will pull a tooth for free if you can't sleep with the pain
StorytellingSalem
Run for office. Theres legit people running and getting paid to run to profit off you being in poverty. Run for office to fix it. Itll be
StorytellingSalem
Hard. Itll be even harder if you dont. Lorax up. Its 2022- run for office
Ayecantread
People financially comfortable enough to campaign for election probably don't scroll imgur. It's a nice thought though...
StorytellingSalem
Im not talkinggn about those people im talking about your broke ass. Run for office
SweetBabyJesus
I can't. I'm broke.
Vojens
That's fine. Vote in the PRIMARY. Centrist Democrats don't cut it anymore.
SomeDetroitGuy
Literally everyone who represents me at every level is a pro-government healthcare Democrat. They aren't the ones blocking this.
Ezekiel117
Republicunts?
StorytellingSalem
Thank you for voting. You not worrying about that part is in thanks to your community doing their part. Keep up the good fight homie!
Gibramovic
Rich people obviously
KiteFlyingPianist
Not really something to laugh about, if you ask me.
beezzarro
Greedtards did
elganif
Dentists did - because they dont want to deal with pricing thats set by insurance companies or regulated.
Gameskyjumper
because eye doctor/school and dentist/school had branch out and started their own industries.
spinbutton3
I just re-upped my work insurance for next year. A separate sign up for hospitalizations, a separate one for critical illness...
rowingrowingrowing
A separate one for “cancer treatment” (that taps out at $150k). A separate one for “emergency transportation”. We are so fucked.
spinbutton3
Making health insurance more complicated is how the insurers avoid covering us when we need it. I'm disgusted
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[deleted]
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spinbutton3
I totally agree.
SentientSpork
I work for an auto/home insurer, and can't follow any of my own policies, especially health. I would say that the complexity is a weird 1/2
SentientSpork
2/2 interaction of insurance having 50+ regulators across health and finance, historical legal cases, and for-profit health ins being wrong.
spinbutton3
The policies are deliberately confusing so the customer can't make an informed decision easily. Auto and home are fine and useful. But...
spinbutton3
Health insurance is a total racket.
FailedCrate
German healthcare: lololol, no free denture/glasses stuff for you! Also german healthcare: roflflfl, here, get some homeopathic shit!
florpglorp
The gamblers/billionaires who run the health insurance companies.
nn3vinn
Snobbery really. Dentists, Optometrist, and Chiropractors are looked as lesser than in the medical community
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
When I was a kid my dentist removed a root from a severely damaged molar. Without. Any. Anesthetic.
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
Till this day I suffer from anxiety just by thinking that I need to go to the dentist
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
I've had many good dentists afterwards, but I takes a LOT of pain for me to decide to go to one
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
And even then, I prefer to medicate myself than to go to one, because, somehow, they all seem to just don't care about fears and whatnot
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
A friend was with me that day. He couldn't believe it.
lolitsmike
They realized that they could make more money with different insurances
BroccoliCock
When my son was 2 he knocked out a baby tooth that...well it was kind of attached. Took him to the ER due to the bleeding. He sat (1/2)
BroccoliCock
(2/2) an hour, did nothing and told us to go see a dentist. Got billed for the ER and had to also get dental ins. and pay upfront costs.
chrisat928
Bad teeth will kill you.
pixelhigh
But you can work with bad teeth.
StryderX
H boy I sure hope so
nclu
Lost a friend at 40 because getting his teeth fixed triggered amyloidosis. It was incredibly sad
Baalzak
That's why it's so important to train them while they're young.
orbitn
i have dentinogenesis imperfecta. or should say, had. because what's left of my teeth.. it really doesn't matter what they had or have. >
orbitn
I broke a tooth on a gummy bear last week. A fucking gummy bear. They all need to come out. I'm on disability aned medicare. I can't >
orbitn
afford that shit and there's only a matter of time before infection hits - there's no root but there's still that nice open canal since the>
orbitn
gutta percha fell out (a rubber cork for your root channel they put in after a root canal. I have more root remnants than teeth. Im ashamed
orbitn
to speak. Fuck the healthcare system of this country, fuck it very much
DarkwingDuc
And regular eye exams can detect serious health issues like diabetes & high blood pressure early, so they can be treated more effectively.
svennisiggi
God i hope so.
Joylove
Luxury bones.
Massagesbutts
Not if I won't let zombies bite me.
MyDogsNameIsSally
Then vote Vermin Supreme. He will ensure a mandatory tooth brushing law, and the zombies will be busy powering our cities.
JackieTreehornProductions
Gum disease has a strong correlation to heart disease also
ezpozito
didnt they also find that oral hygiene was directly related to memory problems in old age?
ezpozito
might be Alzheimer's causes it or vice versa i cannot remember
ezpozito
https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/large-study-links-gum-disease-dementia
ezpozito
oh no *brushes teeth*
Xandelle
Tooth pain is the worst pain IMO. A rotting nerve or dry socket makes your entire face and head throb. My wisdom tooth removal sucked so bad
zeiji
i mean, it's not like the correlation between gum disease and heart disease is high, it's very high.
ImGoingBackToBed
Bad teeth will make you want to die before they kill you.
Level21Magikarp
Cast Away taught me a one step solution to this problem.
LurkerOfDarkness
*wish granted*
KPuff
I just had a crowned tooth break off at the gum line. I now need an implant. Fun stuff.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
I had 21 teeth removed 15 years ago as my, at that time, paranoid schizophrenia made me unable to brush my teeth. I was in utter agony. 1/2
hahaopossum
How long did you not brush your teeth? Asking for myself because I have issues with it personally
LiarLiarPantsUntier
It happened over 2 years. Soda helped greatly.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
I now wear dentures, that are broken, ‘cause I can’t afford the $1400 to replace them. My jaw joints hurt due to this. 2/2
JeffwiththeNukes
Are you on medicare or medicaid?
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Neither - I’m Danish.
SandAndLooney79
Fuck this world. I’m sorry the system sucks. You deserve better.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Funny thing is, I’m Danish, so for the most part the system actually works for me. But not teeth. Fuck people with bad teeth, apparently.
ijustmadeanaccounttoargue
So will good teeth.
Sechran
Ironically, it's cited that a bad tooth was what drove the Tsavo lions to eat dozens of people in Africa at the end of the 19th Century.
ijustmadeanaccounttoargue
Same. Glad I got that thing pulled finally.
hiphopchinashop
I pay for my.bad ears too
Wmcmwa
What?
hiphopchinashop
Excuse.me?
Wmcmwa
Pardon?
ElbowDeepInBillCosby
They are full of mORAL decay
emjay9010
And the GUMption to try get away with it.
ElbowDeepInBillCosby
Thank you for the follow up lol
vxgjhf
M'Oral decay.
AyyBbyUWanSumFukk
Get out.
Housemaster
... of my dreams, and into my car!
ElbowDeepInBillCosby
I get that a lot of places
DarkUranium
Like Bill Cosby's house?
ElbowDeepInBillCosby
Hahahahahahahaha, yes