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cbale2000
A destabilized economy, runaway inflation, and the German Communist Revolution of 1918-1919 didn't help.
commentsivehadafew
Indict and prosecute
HairyStyle
oh yeah! Oh... Prosecute
bikergeek6249
The Germans did that, too, after the Beer Hall Putsch.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I get what you're saying, but that is an insult to all the Germans who did oppose Hitler, many of which paid with their life for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Germans_who_resisted_Nazism
Lifesforliving
The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference.
Magyarharcos
Its a citizens duty to keep corruption out of their country, just saying. People who are indifferent are allowers, and almost as bad as them
IseeSmartphones
Germany was the first country the Nazis invaded.
sverebom
No, we weren't. As a society we failed back then. There is no shame for current generations, only an obligation to not let it happen again.
johnefffd
Second, after Italy. The headquarters of Benito Mussolini.
Allrighty
The NSDAP was specifically the German fascist party.
beyondtheutmostboundsofhumanthought
flexstar
RummageSaleBubbler
Have you ever wondered why Germans didn’t do anything about Hitler? Well, the world is wondering exactly that about Americans and Trump.
AmbroseWolfinger
There is profit to be made.
MissSiesta
THIS.
Varenvel
they did , ever herd of night of long knives? , nazi were known to kill and supress the opposition , its easy to preach>
that nothing was done , in truth quite lots people died , were murdered or had accidents , this almost...happened in US , and its easy>
to say protest(as even americans hardly do during peace) , now imagine they can just shot you and your family , will you protest>
most wont , and these who do will be minority nazi mopedup with its SS and secret police.
BaphoMettbroetchen
42 plots to assassinate Hitler. Only 1 came really close though. :x
madeejit
Sod's Law right there, isn't it. The single 42no. times the Germans didn't do something thoroughly during that entire war...
3 Actually , the bomb in the pillar would kill him , it was strong that entire house fell down , timing was good too BUT Hitler>
felt unwell and first time ever he finished his speach very very early and left. if not that he would died, Bürgerbräukeller 8 November 1939
from all of them that one was the most likely to get him , just "fate" decided otherwise. , other very likely contender was>
October 5, 1939 by Poles , they had 500kg IED waiting , but parade was diverted last moment.
ThrobbinHoodz
My mum doesn't talk to me anymore. Saying things like this to her is why.
VitaminJay
You're better off. 'Poison goes where poison's welcomed.' --Granny Weatherwax.
jansenart
@OP They also debunked fascists instead of dismissing them outright, which legitimized their arguments.
nooneneedsmorethan16kofram
No we didn’t, wasn’t that the exact problem?
PicassoCT
Well, you went with a con-artist, not a postcard-artist
SecretAgentSuperBooger
AnonymousSourceOfGenitals
People forget how much hate there was against jews just in general around the world. And if you weren't ahted for that there was a million ½
other reason to hate. Political leanings, nationality, home town etc.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Wehret den Anfängen. Resist the beginnings.
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Absolutely this. There were even people after the war that said. "I wasn't a nazi" well no but you sat by and did nothing believing the nazi
Ambition served you personally. I'm looking at you modern Russia.
sphericalworld
Hell, Russia didn’t sit by, they actively helped.
SlytlyDerangd
Yeah he is known for comedy, but even as a very very casual human aware of his work I am aware he is more than just comedy.
oddoregano
He has a great mind. I hate his borat character but I understand we needed the conversations that began as a result.
haadyy
I hate it too. As I hate a literary character from late 19th century Bulgaria. He is stupid, loud, revolting and endlessly unaware of his
Own character. A satire of the Bulgarian who has only recently (ISH) gained independence and can travel the world as free folk. Much like
Borat's character. We studied the books in school and I have a very physical reaction to the book. I don't like it, feels greasy. But the
Tigersterne
Yeah but also most Germans at the time were anti-Semites
ricpaul
My dad (1936) explained that there were anti-jew feelings in the Netherlands too. It took understanding of the fate of the Jews for people >
to start helping and harbouring them. (Most rich people were Jews, this is historically explainable but compare to modern hate for rich >
people on here and you'll see it isn't all as black and white as it might seem in hindsight.)
Freestila
Yes, we learned from it, have many mandatory school courses and laws against things like nazi symbols.
TheFastpaws
I've argued with family over this.
NonstopRampage
Imagine if modern day germany ignored fullblown nazis, organizing in their backwoods, like america did with the hicks who became trumpers. >
It really says alot- you guys HAD to have known the danger they posed, before they all came out of the woodwork. Before all the trump BS.
michaelfire
Truth and reconciliation, our baggage just keeps piling up https://www.americantruthnow.org/
BaddyOneShoe
Are they talking about The Game? (You lost BTW)
Emberpaw
This.. is my new profile pic
What’s wrong with sentence case?
Immune2Iocaine
I feel like tolerated is a better word than ignored here. Or accepted.
rmmmm
Well it’s because there are no nazis! I mean:
Thelrishlnquistion
Anyone wanting to ignore politics these days is almost certainly a scummy right winger too cowardly to say their real thoughts.
DangerBaer
Many prefer enjoying the benefits of democracy (such as it is) without having to put any thought or work into it. You're not wrong, though.
ArkoneAxon
People aren't ignoring politics. They're ignoring YOU, and your "you're either with us, or you're AGAINST us!" mentality.
So you want to stand with neonazis?
Speaking as one whose great grandparents are ashes in an oven? YOU sound more like a fascist than most Trump voters. I fear YOU, not them.
Yes, yes. Just like the Jesus freaks who act like monsters while claiming to be Christian, you act like a fascist while claiming not to be.
TO BE FAIR, they're also either cowards, or whining snot-nosed adultchildren, pissing and moaning about seeing politics on a public forum.
ToSisPoS
*politics they disagree with
Yeah that too, but most of the time when I see it, its because it was nestled between two cat memes & they, GASP, HAD TO PRESS THE < BUTTON!
sleepinggreenidea
The tell is when you saw a right-wing-leaning meme in Rising or on FP (the latter being rare these days), it wouldn't get those comments.
Phobetor42
To be fair, (insert letterkenny meme) I feel like some of them are just feeling tired and powerless and are just hoping that things 1/2
Calm down and get better on their own. It's certainly understandable but also not how it works. Still, I wouldn't write all of them off. 2/2
DisgruntledFerret
Ignoring it COMPLETELY is one thing, but I think it's reasonable to have a... let's call it a holiday ceasefire. No politics at the table.
mikeatike
You are welcome to leave fucko.
Yeah, what we ALL want is a screaming match in front of great-aunts and babies at Thanksgiving and then again at Christmas. Shithead.
3Davideo
Also reminiscent of Weimar Germany: a constantly deadlocked legislature that is increasingly reliant on executive fiat to get anything done.
Treating the German people like crap for a decade is how it happened. "Not ignoring it" means giving them something better. People don't>
turn to fascism unless they've got nothing better. That's why Post-WW2 treatment of Germany was so different from Post-WW1 treatment.
Ritawho
cre8majic
"but look at how he helped the economy!!!" was said then about Hitler and now about Trump
Gorzine
Reminds me of https://images.app.goo.gl/43NqLFKNTqas1LMZ9
alRakoun
They decidedly didn't ignore it, you fucking idiot.
To the downvoters with room temperature IQs: There were constant gun battles against the Freikorps and NSDAP during the Weimar Era.
They didn't ignore it. The Junkers supported the NSDAP at a decisive moment. You need to get history from something other than Call of Duty.
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
As a Canadian I have A LOT of people tell me not to worry about American politics and we're not crazy enough to let that happen here. 1/
keyblader1985
That's what America was saying before.
walnutbreath
Laughs in Albertan.
DesdemonaMoor
Fellow Americans said that about Trump winning. So many looking the other way during the holocaust makes any human atrocity possible.
FuzzyX
Reminds me of the saying "The road to fascism is lined with people telling you to stop over reacting."!
WrathOfJigglypuff
As a Brit suffering through batshit conservative policies, tell them they are fucking WRONG. Your right wing will learn from theirs.
The Beep beep Protest Parade tells me otherwise.
PixelSprite64
SergeantMajorSpoiler
But it's the *better kind* of racism!
Something something killing the industry also Residential Schools was “so long ago”
AnOceanOfStars
When Trump first ran, many US people themselves said things along those lines, and "he'll never win". We're always one step away from ruin.
sickofmkingnames350
So many people thought he was just a joke candidate and didn't take him seriously
KittenVonCatsworth
"It's not like he's going to overturn Roe" - actual line said by my crazy MAGA mother-in-law in 2016.
dfhowes
Has she apologized yet?
Oh hell no, she's one of the ones who doubles down and minimizes everything. As soon as RvW was overturned, she declared that she was...
Sooo.... a cunt? She's a cunt, then?
...always opposed to it anyway and it was a good move, despite her having a voluntary abortion herself in her 20s.
I like to remind them that there's likely a lot of Czechs, Poles, and Austrians who felt the same way in 1935. I'm not afraid of Canada 2/
electing a fascist government, I'm afraid of the inevitability of an American fascist government wanting to grow their territory. 3/3
VaultGirl69
Well, they're both colonized nations built on genocide. Until you guys start giving it back, we won't feel threatened. It eases our shame.
Hitler was from Austria, annexing it just came naturally to him. On an unrelated note, isn't Ted Cruz part Canadian?
WolfRexV3
He was born in Canada
Donku83
Don't worry. Americans used to say that too. And here we are...
sinbinrugger
There will be another US civil war before that happens.
Muffyns
Cant we just burn down their white house again if they try it?
TosokTheRodentHunter
I agree. Also, I upvoted you to 69
KuldFyt
It's absolutely fair to be concerned about the US becoming ambitious as we go fascist, but don't discount the other part. We leak.
TheS4ndm4n
Many German speaking people actually welcomed the anschluss. That could happen in Canada.
stankginchfurbuger
You think Canadians are going to welcome an American Anschluss? Are you fucking high? We think of America as low achieving Canada
theduckening
we already have a bunch of confederate and trump flags in Canada. So it's pretty safe to assume that it'll leak over here too.
cbale2000
A destabilized economy, runaway inflation, and the German Communist Revolution of 1918-1919 didn't help.
commentsivehadafew
Indict and prosecute
HairyStyle
bikergeek6249
The Germans did that, too, after the Beer Hall Putsch.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I get what you're saying, but that is an insult to all the Germans who did oppose Hitler, many of which paid with their life for it.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Germans_who_resisted_Nazism
Lifesforliving
The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference.
Magyarharcos
Its a citizens duty to keep corruption out of their country, just saying. People who are indifferent are allowers, and almost as bad as them
IseeSmartphones
Germany was the first country the Nazis invaded.
sverebom
No, we weren't. As a society we failed back then. There is no shame for current generations, only an obligation to not let it happen again.
johnefffd
Second, after Italy. The headquarters of Benito Mussolini.
Allrighty
The NSDAP was specifically the German fascist party.
beyondtheutmostboundsofhumanthought
flexstar
RummageSaleBubbler
Have you ever wondered why Germans didn’t do anything about Hitler? Well, the world is wondering exactly that about Americans and Trump.
AmbroseWolfinger
There is profit to be made.
MissSiesta
THIS.
Varenvel
they did , ever herd of night of long knives? , nazi were known to kill and supress the opposition , its easy to preach>
Varenvel
that nothing was done , in truth quite lots people died , were murdered or had accidents , this almost...happened in US , and its easy>
Varenvel
to say protest(as even americans hardly do during peace) , now imagine they can just shot you and your family , will you protest>
Varenvel
most wont , and these who do will be minority nazi mopedup with its SS and secret police.
BaphoMettbroetchen
42 plots to assassinate Hitler. Only 1 came really close though. :x
madeejit
Sod's Law right there, isn't it. The single 42no. times the Germans didn't do something thoroughly during that entire war...
Varenvel
3 Actually , the bomb in the pillar would kill him , it was strong that entire house fell down , timing was good too BUT Hitler>
Varenvel
felt unwell and first time ever he finished his speach very very early and left. if not that he would died, Bürgerbräukeller 8 November 1939
Varenvel
from all of them that one was the most likely to get him , just "fate" decided otherwise. , other very likely contender was>
Varenvel
October 5, 1939 by Poles , they had 500kg IED waiting , but parade was diverted last moment.
ThrobbinHoodz
My mum doesn't talk to me anymore. Saying things like this to her is why.
VitaminJay
You're better off. 'Poison goes where poison's welcomed.' --Granny Weatherwax.
jansenart
@OP They also debunked fascists instead of dismissing them outright, which legitimized their arguments.
nooneneedsmorethan16kofram
No we didn’t, wasn’t that the exact problem?
PicassoCT
Well, you went with a con-artist, not a postcard-artist
SecretAgentSuperBooger
AnonymousSourceOfGenitals
People forget how much hate there was against jews just in general around the world. And if you weren't ahted for that there was a million ½
AnonymousSourceOfGenitals
other reason to hate. Political leanings, nationality, home town etc.
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Wehret den Anfängen. Resist the beginnings.
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Absolutely this. There were even people after the war that said. "I wasn't a nazi" well no but you sat by and did nothing believing the nazi
LaughingInTheFaceOfDanger
Ambition served you personally. I'm looking at you modern Russia.
sphericalworld
Hell, Russia didn’t sit by, they actively helped.
SlytlyDerangd
Yeah he is known for comedy, but even as a very very casual human aware of his work I am aware he is more than just comedy.
oddoregano
He has a great mind. I hate his borat character but I understand we needed the conversations that began as a result.
haadyy
I hate it too. As I hate a literary character from late 19th century Bulgaria. He is stupid, loud, revolting and endlessly unaware of his
haadyy
Own character. A satire of the Bulgarian who has only recently (ISH) gained independence and can travel the world as free folk. Much like
haadyy
Borat's character. We studied the books in school and I have a very physical reaction to the book. I don't like it, feels greasy. But the
Tigersterne
Yeah but also most Germans at the time were anti-Semites
ricpaul
My dad (1936) explained that there were anti-jew feelings in the Netherlands too. It took understanding of the fate of the Jews for people >
ricpaul
to start helping and harbouring them. (Most rich people were Jews, this is historically explainable but compare to modern hate for rich >
ricpaul
people on here and you'll see it isn't all as black and white as it might seem in hindsight.)
Freestila
Yes, we learned from it, have many mandatory school courses and laws against things like nazi symbols.
TheFastpaws
I've argued with family over this.
NonstopRampage
Imagine if modern day germany ignored fullblown nazis, organizing in their backwoods, like america did with the hicks who became trumpers. >
NonstopRampage
It really says alot- you guys HAD to have known the danger they posed, before they all came out of the woodwork. Before all the trump BS.
michaelfire
Truth and reconciliation, our baggage just keeps piling up https://www.americantruthnow.org/
BaddyOneShoe
Are they talking about The Game? (You lost BTW)
Emberpaw
This.. is my new profile pic
AmbroseWolfinger
What’s wrong with sentence case?
Immune2Iocaine
I feel like tolerated is a better word than ignored here. Or accepted.
rmmmm
Well it’s because there are no nazis! I mean:
Thelrishlnquistion
Anyone wanting to ignore politics these days is almost certainly a scummy right winger too cowardly to say their real thoughts.
DangerBaer
Many prefer enjoying the benefits of democracy (such as it is) without having to put any thought or work into it. You're not wrong, though.
ArkoneAxon
People aren't ignoring politics. They're ignoring YOU, and your "you're either with us, or you're AGAINST us!" mentality.
Thelrishlnquistion
So you want to stand with neonazis?
ArkoneAxon
Speaking as one whose great grandparents are ashes in an oven? YOU sound more like a fascist than most Trump voters. I fear YOU, not them.
Thelrishlnquistion
ArkoneAxon
Yes, yes. Just like the Jesus freaks who act like monsters while claiming to be Christian, you act like a fascist while claiming not to be.
NonstopRampage
TO BE FAIR, they're also either cowards, or whining snot-nosed adultchildren, pissing and moaning about seeing politics on a public forum.
ToSisPoS
*politics they disagree with
NonstopRampage
Yeah that too, but most of the time when I see it, its because it was nestled between two cat memes & they, GASP, HAD TO PRESS THE < BUTTON!
sleepinggreenidea
The tell is when you saw a right-wing-leaning meme in Rising or on FP (the latter being rare these days), it wouldn't get those comments.
Phobetor42
To be fair, (insert letterkenny meme) I feel like some of them are just feeling tired and powerless and are just hoping that things 1/2
Phobetor42
Calm down and get better on their own. It's certainly understandable but also not how it works. Still, I wouldn't write all of them off. 2/2
DisgruntledFerret
Ignoring it COMPLETELY is one thing, but I think it's reasonable to have a... let's call it a holiday ceasefire. No politics at the table.
mikeatike
You are welcome to leave fucko.
DisgruntledFerret
Yeah, what we ALL want is a screaming match in front of great-aunts and babies at Thanksgiving and then again at Christmas. Shithead.
3Davideo
Also reminiscent of Weimar Germany: a constantly deadlocked legislature that is increasingly reliant on executive fiat to get anything done.
ArkoneAxon
Treating the German people like crap for a decade is how it happened. "Not ignoring it" means giving them something better. People don't>
ArkoneAxon
turn to fascism unless they've got nothing better. That's why Post-WW2 treatment of Germany was so different from Post-WW1 treatment.
Ritawho
cre8majic
"but look at how he helped the economy!!!" was said then about Hitler and now about Trump
Gorzine
Reminds me of https://images.app.goo.gl/43NqLFKNTqas1LMZ9
alRakoun
They decidedly didn't ignore it, you fucking idiot.
alRakoun
To the downvoters with room temperature IQs: There were constant gun battles against the Freikorps and NSDAP during the Weimar Era.
alRakoun
They didn't ignore it. The Junkers supported the NSDAP at a decisive moment. You need to get history from something other than Call of Duty.
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
As a Canadian I have A LOT of people tell me not to worry about American politics and we're not crazy enough to let that happen here. 1/
keyblader1985
That's what America was saying before.
walnutbreath
Laughs in Albertan.
DesdemonaMoor
Fellow Americans said that about Trump winning. So many looking the other way during the holocaust makes any human atrocity possible.
FuzzyX
Reminds me of the saying "The road to fascism is lined with people telling you to stop over reacting."!
WrathOfJigglypuff
As a Brit suffering through batshit conservative policies, tell them they are fucking WRONG. Your right wing will learn from theirs.
ToSisPoS
The Beep beep Protest Parade tells me otherwise.
PixelSprite64
SergeantMajorSpoiler
But it's the *better kind* of racism!
ToSisPoS
Something something killing the industry also Residential Schools was “so long ago”
AnOceanOfStars
When Trump first ran, many US people themselves said things along those lines, and "he'll never win". We're always one step away from ruin.
sickofmkingnames350
So many people thought he was just a joke candidate and didn't take him seriously
KittenVonCatsworth
"It's not like he's going to overturn Roe" - actual line said by my crazy MAGA mother-in-law in 2016.
dfhowes
Has she apologized yet?
KittenVonCatsworth
Oh hell no, she's one of the ones who doubles down and minimizes everything. As soon as RvW was overturned, she declared that she was...
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
Sooo.... a cunt? She's a cunt, then?
KittenVonCatsworth
...always opposed to it anyway and it was a good move, despite her having a voluntary abortion herself in her 20s.
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
I like to remind them that there's likely a lot of Czechs, Poles, and Austrians who felt the same way in 1935. I'm not afraid of Canada 2/
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
electing a fascist government, I'm afraid of the inevitability of an American fascist government wanting to grow their territory. 3/3
VaultGirl69
Well, they're both colonized nations built on genocide. Until you guys start giving it back, we won't feel threatened. It eases our shame.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Hitler was from Austria, annexing it just came naturally to him. On an unrelated note, isn't Ted Cruz part Canadian?
WolfRexV3
He was born in Canada
Donku83
Don't worry. Americans used to say that too. And here we are...
sinbinrugger
There will be another US civil war before that happens.
Muffyns
Cant we just burn down their white house again if they try it?
TosokTheRodentHunter
I agree. Also, I upvoted you to 69
KuldFyt
It's absolutely fair to be concerned about the US becoming ambitious as we go fascist, but don't discount the other part. We leak.
TheS4ndm4n
Many German speaking people actually welcomed the anschluss. That could happen in Canada.
stankginchfurbuger
You think Canadians are going to welcome an American Anschluss? Are you fucking high? We think of America as low achieving Canada
theduckening
we already have a bunch of confederate and trump flags in Canada. So it's pretty safe to assume that it'll leak over here too.