Considering her age alone (25), I'd say she's lucky to have her big break now, at still a young age. A lot of actors work in that field as extras, but will stay extras for the rest of their lives.
Success is a lottery: there are countless skilled hard-workers who never get a lucky break while endlessly struggling in destitution, and there are many useless fools who thrive on nothing but great luck & privilege.
It takes time and money to develop someone into a celebrity. Why keep spending that over and over when they could just put their favorites in everything?
Its called "taking Risks" and if you dont take risks and push out the next slop expecting it to bring in revenue in the millions. Dont be surprised when it flops because people are tried of the same crap. If you cant take risks close up shop and pass the controller and let someone else give it a try and prove your wrong.
#1 She's in the MCU what do they think that is? It's Hollywood. They are constantly looking for new talents, the reason why the same core group of actors always get the leading roles is very simple, they are spending hundreds of millions on the movies, and they want to know the lead roles are being played by someone who can get people to go out and see the movie. And new or lesser know actors are not as reliable for that as well known A list actors.
It's not that long ago that I saw people complaining that franchises are ruining Hollywood and how they miss the days of when a movie star could pull an audience on their name alone
They keep making those because that's all we'll watch. You can't go to a movie for less than $12 these days, plan on $50 if you want snacks. For $50, we want to see and hear something we can't watch on Netflix.
Let’s give it a little time. Amber Heard was unknown in Zombieland then was a protag in AquaMan before she shit the bed. A revolving door of new indie stars turned mainstream has its own problems. The Harvey Weinstein types would love an endless stream of flash in the pans.
Like most stereotypes, this one is not very accurate. it must be dozens if not hundreds of times that I've looked someone up on YouTube to see what else they've been in so I can see more of their work and found out that it's either basically nothing or a bunch of genres I don't enjoy.
"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."
I'm cautiously optimistic to see her as Rogue. Anna Paquin did what she could with a bad role (Fox's movie Rogue was more plot device/macguffin than character), and I'm willing to give Inde Navarrette a chance.
Worse now since the lower tier "straight to dvd" market disappeared. It removed the area where experimentation was a reasonable investment gamble. Now it's either guaranteed blockbuster (nostalgia) or nothing.
Yeah, most of society is packed full of creative, talented, and otherwise brilliant people who don't have a chance to do much of anything because they're either stuck in abject poverty or they couldn't get past the couple dozen slime balls that control the gates to get anywhere meaningful. Just imagine how much talent we missed out on because they weren't Weinstein's type or refused to suck his dick. Shit's still happening.
I've worked with a very talented actress a number of times, and it bothers me that she doesn't get paid for it. The world would be better if she were able to spend most of her time acting. She would get eaten alive in Hollywood.
Absolutely. It's stuff like this, that is why things like Raygun happen and surprise people. There are way better Australian breakdancers. People that have money are the ones that can afford to chase their dreams more easily, and there's little to no mechanisms to allow everyone a shot at things. Obviously some people overcome this through a combination of determination, opportunity, skill, etc. But yeah, then there's the 'bad luck' of things like, you weren't Weinstein's type like you said.
This is such a neckbeard take. Can’t just praise someone, gotta drag everyone else too. Outside of legacy stars, everyone in Hollywood had to work their asses off one way or another to get a break
It’s not even a logically coherent take - “there’s so much talent we’ll never discover like this actress who was just cast as ROGUE IN THE MCU”. It might even be true that there are a lot of talented actors who will never make it big, but this is literally the opposite of that.
Which is weird because they don’t say “executives” but they do say “actors.”
And it’s a strawman, she’s an actress who’s had a few roles, did a standout job in one, and got a bigger role. Hollywood’s got issues but it’s weird to try and shoehorn her into one
"truly so much talent".... Listen, I'm hopeful too, and I don't want to shit on this actress who I know nothing about, but we don't actually know if she is that talented, the film hasn't come out yet. Being cast doesn't mean you're a good actor, I mean, for God's sake, Jared Leto is STILL being cast in big budget films.
I am not, the way this was worded I thought they just "plucked" her from streaming for this film. Like obviously she auditioned, but, no, I was not aware she acted previously.
There's a reason Hollywood casts the same people a lot: they've proven they can do the job. That job is getting butts in seats and showing the audience a good time once they're there. Inexpensive movies, like horror movies typically, can afford to take risks on new folks in a way hundred million dollar budgeted movies can't. Inde Navarrete has shown she can do that job with obsession, now she's got the big budget franchise movie offer to go with that success.
Exactly. People confuse business with culture. Film is mostly there to make money. Don't get me wrong, there are some amazing films out there and some works of art. Film companies have shareholders and stakeholders like any other company, and exist to make money.
The way most movies are produced in Hollywood is one of two ways; you have the budget to attract the star... or you have the star to attract the budget. That's true even in the indy scene. Everyone in Obsession had some credits, but the headlining star was Andy Richter.
People want 'talent' and 'good films' but they don't really understand that the funding often has to come from somewhere. The reason why big names tend to be in so many different films? Because either their name brings in the funding or they've got their own money that they don't have to care how a movie goes. Want more movies with some degree of quality and truly varied casts? Get Hollywood to care less about truly making a profit off movies. Get the costs of making movies to be cut down.
Not saying there's an actual clear plan. Namely because prices of tech and equipment and locations. Probably something to do with actors not exactly needing millions when there's other people working on the same films for ~50-60k a year.
She was a multi-season recurring on Superman and Lois. Yes, she struggled and yes, she’s finally hitting the big time but it’s not like she was absolutely nothing before this.
Big Superman fan, it was pretty great, head and shoulders above the Arrowverse shows the whole way through, definitely some interesting takes and some stuff i didnt agree with, and it was still a network family drama at its core, but it even gave us an amazing Lex Luthor/Clark Kent knockdown dragout. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSCEa7cZC7Y
Go back and watch shows that were heavy on guest appearances, like X-Files or Law and Order, and you’ll see plenty of many famous faces before they were famous.
Yep, serialized shows are fodder for actors to build relationships with producers, which is critical for "really making it". Obviously a monster percentage never break out of guest appearances, but the real "overnight successes" are a rounding error on a rounding error on a rounding error.
Poppypoppoppop
Considering her age alone (25), I'd say she's lucky to have her big break now, at still a young age. A lot of actors work in that field as extras, but will stay extras for the rest of their lives.
OperatorWay
Success is a lottery:
there are countless skilled hard-workers who never get a lucky break while endlessly struggling in destitution,
and there are many useless fools who thrive on nothing but great luck & privilege.
undeadlemur
Love prime exanples
mrthewhitee
Her name is Inde Navarrette FYI
RetrogradeLlama
LOL -OP didn’t think that was important
nanabroccolifart
She was great in obsession.
TexMexHex
She got done dirty in that movie. Good flick, though.
Righteousdew
I couldn't disagree more. While I had no problem with her, personally, overall I hated that movie and strongly considered walking out.
RexRexroththe1st
And then they'll recycle all their fucking children.
EverNotRelevant
It takes time and money to develop someone into a celebrity. Why keep spending that over and over when they could just put their favorites in everything?
Redshadow09
Its called "taking Risks" and if you dont take risks and push out the next slop expecting it to bring in revenue in the millions. Dont be surprised when it flops because people are tried of the same crap. If you cant take risks close up shop and pass the controller and let someone else give it a try and prove your wrong.
EverNotRelevant
I'm explaining their behavior, not defending it.
Targe0
#1 She's in the MCU what do they think that is? It's Hollywood.
They are constantly looking for new talents, the reason why the same core group of actors always get the leading roles is very simple, they are spending hundreds of millions on the movies, and they want to know the lead roles are being played by someone who can get people to go out and see the movie. And new or lesser know actors are not as reliable for that as well known A list actors.
CrikShore
nobody goes to a movie because it has new actors
sochilln
Zendya has entered the chat
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uzetaab
It's not that long ago that I saw people complaining that franchises are ruining Hollywood and how they miss the days of when a movie star could pull an audience on their name alone
Columbus43219
They keep making those because that's all we'll watch. You can't go to a movie for less than $12 these days, plan on $50 if you want snacks. For $50, we want to see and hear something we can't watch on Netflix.
ClutterMonkey
Let’s give it a little time. Amber Heard was unknown in Zombieland then was a protag in AquaMan before she shit the bed. A revolving door of new indie stars turned mainstream has its own problems. The Harvey Weinstein types would love an endless stream of flash in the pans.
knotwingknot
Fun fact: the shitting the bed thing was a psy-op, and it's genuinely crazy looking back how effective it was lol
dendiverdown
She had some low budget horror as well…”All the Boys Love Mandy Lane”…and Mandy definitely had an axe to grind
KillingTlme
"before she shit the bed" haha
PhailRaptor
Hey, now. She's the only one who gave a shit in their relationship!
uzetaab
Like most stereotypes, this one is not very accurate. it must be dozens if not hundreds of times that I've looked someone up on YouTube to see what else they've been in so I can see more of their work and found out that it's either basically nothing or a bunch of genres I don't enjoy.
Skizzlesnap
"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."
Skizzlesnap
- Stephen Jay Gould
Turkleturts
"and here's Zendaya's one facial expression as Storm"
SaltyAndBitter
It seemed like streaming was a side gig/hobby. Unless she primarily streamed somewhere else, I only saw a few let's play videos over the past year.
MonsoonGibby
I'm cautiously optimistic to see her as Rogue. Anna Paquin did what she could with a bad role (Fox's movie Rogue was more plot device/macguffin than character), and I'm willing to give Inde Navarrette a chance.
Dolenmorgul
Yes, now imagine how much talent goes to waste because they can't afford schooling
kingofmachines
I've been bored of the MCU for a long time, but I saw her in Obsession and she's a phenomenal actress, really carried the movie. Hope she does well.
spiderjohn36
Hollywood: dry humping the cash cow(s) since 1911.
igetit41
Worse now since the lower tier "straight to dvd" market disappeared. It removed the area where experimentation was a reasonable investment gamble. Now it's either guaranteed blockbuster (nostalgia) or nothing.
PedroBenecol
THIS
JovanD
Straight to dvd is now straight to streaming, nothing has changed.
somethingnotyettaken
"This actress, recently cast in a huge Hollywood franchise, is an example of how we'll never see talent like hers in Hollywood".
CrikShore
who even watches these bullshit movies anymore. The original cast are already retired
powerrangerpl
Like Holland and Zendaya. They are in every single movie lately.
neonoptic
I have no idea who this is.
MisterDonutVampire
An actress that played a character in a movie called Obsession, her name is Inde Navarrette.
Navrodel
Yeah, most of society is packed full of creative, talented, and otherwise brilliant people who don't have a chance to do much of anything because they're either stuck in abject poverty or they couldn't get past the couple dozen slime balls that control the gates to get anywhere meaningful.
Just imagine how much talent we missed out on because they weren't Weinstein's type or refused to suck his dick.
Shit's still happening.
grandfalloon
I've worked with a very talented actress a number of times, and it bothers me that she doesn't get paid for it. The world would be better if she were able to spend most of her time acting. She would get eaten alive in Hollywood.
Cognit0Hazard
Absolutely. It's stuff like this, that is why things like Raygun happen and surprise people. There are way better Australian breakdancers. People that have money are the ones that can afford to chase their dreams more easily, and there's little to no mechanisms to allow everyone a shot at things. Obviously some people overcome this through a combination of determination, opportunity, skill, etc. But yeah, then there's the 'bad luck' of things like, you weren't Weinstein's type like you said.
wadatahmydamie
This is such a neckbeard take. Can’t just praise someone, gotta drag everyone else too. Outside of legacy stars, everyone in Hollywood had to work their asses off one way or another to get a break
Septcanmat
It’s not even a logically coherent take - “there’s so much talent we’ll never discover like this actress who was just cast as ROGUE IN THE MCU”. It might even be true that there are a lot of talented actors who will never make it big, but this is literally the opposite of that.
Cognit0Hazard
They're not dragging the actors, they're dragging executives.
wadatahmydamie
Which is weird because they don’t say “executives” but they do say “actors.”
And it’s a strawman, she’s an actress who’s had a few roles, did a standout job in one, and got a bigger role. Hollywood’s got issues but it’s weird to try and shoehorn her into one
Cognit0Hazard
They said "Hollywood" and by that they meant "Executives" Actors don't hire actors, the people making the movies do. Reading comprehension.
Wadatroix
I can reply and mute too, dipshit.
Sonicschilidogs
"truly so much talent".... Listen, I'm hopeful too, and I don't want to shit on this actress who I know nothing about, but we don't actually know if she is that talented, the film hasn't come out yet. Being cast doesn't mean you're a good actor, I mean, for God's sake, Jared Leto is STILL being cast in big budget films.
jsexton
...are you aware that she has acted already?in a hit movie? That relied heavily on a super nuanced performance?
Sonicschilidogs
I am not, the way this was worded I thought they just "plucked" her from streaming for this film. Like obviously she auditioned, but, no, I was not aware she acted previously.
whatthewoda
You may want to check Obsession and then come back and tell us she is not talented...
Sonicschilidogs
Will do!
Sonicschilidogs
*check it out that is, not come back and say she isn't talented
JayDeeDubs
There's a reason Hollywood casts the same people a lot: they've proven they can do the job. That job is getting butts in seats and showing the audience a good time once they're there. Inexpensive movies, like horror movies typically, can afford to take risks on new folks in a way hundred million dollar budgeted movies can't. Inde Navarrete has shown she can do that job with obsession, now she's got the big budget franchise movie offer to go with that success.
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Exactly. People confuse business with culture. Film is mostly there to make money. Don't get me wrong, there are some amazing films out there and some works of art. Film companies have shareholders and stakeholders like any other company, and exist to make money.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
by and large, the market doesn't demand that much variety, or we wouldn't have so many John Wick movies
dcjunkee
The way most movies are produced in Hollywood is one of two ways; you have the budget to attract the star... or you have the star to attract the budget. That's true even in the indy scene. Everyone in Obsession had some credits, but the headlining star was Andy Richter.
LupusLilium
People want 'talent' and 'good films' but they don't really understand that the funding often has to come from somewhere. The reason why big names tend to be in so many different films? Because either their name brings in the funding or they've got their own money that they don't have to care how a movie goes. Want more movies with some degree of quality and truly varied casts? Get Hollywood to care less about truly making a profit off movies. Get the costs of making movies to be cut down.
LupusLilium
And I don't mean by underpaying or cutting corners.
Bureaucromancer
So magic?
"Cost less, but don't spend less."
LupusLilium
Not saying there's an actual clear plan. Namely because prices of tech and equipment and locations. Probably something to do with actors not exactly needing millions when there's other people working on the same films for ~50-60k a year.
lonosham
She was a multi-season recurring on Superman and Lois. Yes, she struggled and yes, she’s finally hitting the big time but it’s not like she was absolutely nothing before this.
AgamemnonsMemes
THATS WHO IT IS.. I couldn't for the LIFE of me remember where i had seen her before.
4etherling
"So much much talent out there" but still has to be super attractive.
KillingTlme
Living paycheck to paycheck, because she spent the 30,000 a month she was making.
levyathyn
Well, before that, though?
DVSBSTrD
People actually watched that show?
TargaryenLoyalist
Not enough people watched it, but it was still a great show. Especially in the final season when (SPOILER IN REPLY)
TargaryenLoyalist
Superman revealed himself as Clark Kent to the world on live TV.
dendiverdown
For Tyler Hoechlin’s hot ass…absolutely
FinancialRavioli
Yes, it's a good show. The pilot alone is one of the best Superman movies ever filmed.
cyno01
Big Superman fan, it was pretty great, head and shoulders above the Arrowverse shows the whole way through, definitely some interesting takes and some stuff i didnt agree with, and it was still a network family drama at its core, but it even gave us an amazing Lex Luthor/Clark Kent knockdown dragout. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSCEa7cZC7Y
dcjunkee
Yeah... often enough the "overnight successes" in Hollywood were guest starring / featured extra / etc. etc. etc. well before they become famous.
Swordguy
Karl Urban agrees.

Septcanmat
Go back and watch shows that were heavy on guest appearances, like X-Files or Law and Order, and you’ll see plenty of many famous faces before they were famous.
BananaForScaIe
Yep, serialized shows are fodder for actors to build relationships with producers, which is critical for "really making it". Obviously a monster percentage never break out of guest appearances, but the real "overnight successes" are a rounding error on a rounding error on a rounding error.
dcjunkee
Yeah, what you're describing is the "middle class actor." Sadly, due to a number of industry changes... they are slowly disappearing.
HydraNine
Yep. Ryan Reynolds was in the X-Files, Pedro Pascal was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and John Malkovich was in Being John Malkovich.
dcjunkee
Yup, and I guarantee if you were to go back in time and ask them what they thought of the day player role, they would be SO GRATEFUL for the work.
Septcanmat
…one of those things is not like the others
BananaForScaIe
I know Buffy doens't stand up as well today, but surely it wasn't THAT bad?!