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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/upshot/epidemiologists-coronavirus-masks.html
Keep masking, folks. In medicine, especially in public health, "X isn't likely to happen" can still mean it happens a lot. Help cut the chains of transmission. Vaccinated people can still catch it, and even if 99.999% of infections resolve without even so much as a sniffle, more infections means more opportunity to mutate, means more opportunity to mutate into a variant that escapes vaccination protection, which will kill a LOT of people.
We've already seen the hell variants can bring to everyone.
MotherOfSmoosh
I agree w this! I mask in public and I'm vaccinated fully in two weeks. But I will still wear it. It protects others if your a carrier.
captvClickMagnet
I am happy to report I'm a sheeple and got my 5G tracker installed yesterday. Does the gays happen now or later?
LooseyGooseyBrett
The data from this will help determine best course of action
DeadWhiteMale
CDC says "You will still be required to wear a mask on planes, buses, trains, and other forms of public transportation."
RainbowAmoeba
IDGAFWTCDCSYBWYMFM
RainbowAmoeba
It took me too long to figure out when I first saw this: I don’t give a fuck what the CDC says you better wear your mother fluffing mask.
lordmaxwell
Every time I have an obstinate person come I to work from now on, it does make it easy. "and you trust Biden?" already had been magic.
oatonaboatwithastoat
wearing masks has been awesome. I get to hide snarky expressions, i haven't got sick and I think every flu season they should be used
VinnyVeritas
The CDC decision seems ill-advised - still too many un-vaccinated people who will NOT care if they spread COVID. New variants are coming...
tr26
Note: Read the article. Headline is much more sensational than the content, which IS interesting and worth reading.
HomerSimpsonsEvilTwin
They said to still wear masks indoors in crowded areas even if you're vaccinated. Look it up.
SmugCat742
Can I have a link? I work in the service industry and will need it ready to go if I need to enforce mask policy
SpammersAreScum
Not anymore. The only exceptions are public transportation and care facilities (hospitals, nursing homes, etc).
netutoring
This is called nuance. We suck at it.
jbrontey
I am fully pro mask, vaccinated, work as MD. The latest evidence I have seen is that vaccinated people don't need them any more.
netutoring
*nervous nodding of head* Yo, CDC, what the hell.
ScorpionSage
What the actual fuck is going on? I’m in Redding CA in from the coast and NO ONE IS WEARING MASKS INDOORS
afatrollofmyown
You're in eastern California. There's your problem. It's almost as bad as the South.
ScorpionSage
Scary
OverpricedCrayon
We’re getting conflicting info. Im in Chicago and everyone is still wearing masks inside and out.
ObtuseDoorFrame
People were still wearing masks indoors in Minneapolis today. Or at least everywhere I went. I could've gotten lucky.
DevilDolly
Pittsburgh here. Went to Walmart as I do every saturday and for the first time in maybe 8mo only a few people had masks. Freaked me out bad
CurrentLevelOfAdulting
In Ohio, mask mandate ends on June 2nd. I’m still gonna mask up though!!
whatisthisproductivityyouspeakof
Yeah, so much for reaching reasonable case numbers first. He already ammended it that vaxxed don't have to wear them to match the CDC.
CurrentLevelOfAdulting
Exactly!! From a behavior standpoint, I think this’ll make it worse.
fourfingersdeep
It should be mandatory in the work now. If you infect someone at work you pay 1/3 of their wages
DCNR
I'm wearing my mask forever.
bassaro
Ew no, you need to wash it or switch masks every now and then.
DCNR
You got me! I switch between two that I wash.
ClimbCO
So now it's not so much "listen to science!", But it's now "listen to this science that's even better!"
bassaro
You kind of just described how scientific progress happens, but I get what you mean about the covid stuff.
ClimbCO
Oh you're right, but here we have everyone saying to listen to the CDC as authority. Then, they suddenly decide they're wrong and not
channelranger
Saying someone is right is not a religion. The CDC is capable of being right, and then later, being wrong.
ClimbCO
I didn't say that. I'm saying people think the CDCs science is correct until they report something they don't like, suddenly they're wrong.
channelranger
Until the disagree with the majority of experts in the field, which is how science generally works, yes.
DrKriegersClone
Yeah, I'm worried that vaccinations plus looser mask and distancing restrictions are going to lead to huge pool of asymptomatic or very 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ mild infections for mutations to arise in.
Illinifan88
The CDC guidelines would work if everyone did as they're told. Unfortunately 30% of the population are red hat wearing science denying fucks
bassaro
Those goddamn Shriners.
buttcreambandit
I think it’s an incentive to get vaccinated but it’s going to backfire hard
blastedsteak
Sincere question then. What is the end goal? If nothing changes unless 100% of people get vaccinated then What’s the point.
bucbucbuc
There is no end goal even if you’re vaccinated they still want you masked up.
RenaissanceFaireMan
4/5 people suffer from diarrhea, 20% of the people actually enjoy it.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Nolfelix115
+1 for Halo CE Classic
heartlessninja6
How I feel knowing I take my life In my hands every grocery run while being surrounded by monsters.
supervillainsevilmoustache
That Dr. running the CDC is really something. This is the 2nd time she’s done something I’d consider stupid. She needs to slow down
supervillainsevilmoustache
Wtf was she thinking? I sent an old pic of a crowd to a buddy and asked him “who’s been vaccinated”. She’s an idiot.
sambaah05
Huh? If people aren't following the guidance, how's that her fault. Her job is to give the facts, and people can make their own decisions.
supervillainsevilmoustache
Also majority of epidemiologists disagree with her, and her job has as much to do with shaping policy as letting the public make decisions
afatrollofmyown
Problem is, she's making a public health decision, this is a socio-cultural problem, not in a vaccum/lab. we know well the public is idiots.
supervillainsevilmoustache
She completely undermined the ability of local and state governments to enforce masks. Every anti-vaxxer can claim they’re vaccinated.
sambaah05
People lying shouldn't be her concern. She should stick to the facts she knows. And if she knows the risks are X. Should shouldn't lie and
sambaah05
Say otherwise just to try and influence behavior. She needs to stick to the science, not to lie to trick some people into behaving.
supervillainsevilmoustache
There’s no standard for vaccine cards or records. What she did was thoughtless and irresponsible
outthere987
Currently the best science indicates that unvaxxed ppl are only a threat to each other. If you are vaxxed you don't need to worry about >
sambaah05
That's not about the science. CDC should stick to putting out the best scientific evidence. Up to politicians to make public policy.
Jadedandannoyed
This was a misstep by Biden & Co. Masks should be worn until covid is beat.
ScorpionSage
I knew he wasn’t a real savior but damn I’m really disappointed rn
sambaah05
Fauci said he supports this guidance. I'll go with him on it.
Direkt4
Me too, all hail Fauci.
sombrerohorsewagon
This is what best looks like. Exponential decay from the pandemic high and endemic surges for the next fifty years.
Mrdaihatsu
He was trying to help get some of the Right to consider getting vaccinated. Weird that they condemn him for bending rules to appease them.
faultysage
Biden & Co didn't make this announcement, the CDC did.
Noob3rts
(1) What is the immunity rate once you have two of the best vaccines? Is it like 95%? If so, it leaves a 5% window, right? Now, wasn't COVID
AnimistPrime
It doesnt leave a 5% window. This is a misconception. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00075-X/fulltext
Noob3rts
(2) initially only like "2.5% of people who catch it die" or some shit in the beginning? Yeah, fuck that, no thanks. My numbers may be off,
Noob3rts
(3) but I think the point I'm trying to make is pretty clear. Better safe than, well, in this case, absolutely dead.
Lemmingofdarkestnight
I will be masked no matter what until my toddlers are vaccinated.
veewonroadate
Do you wear your mask at home
Lemmingofdarkestnight
Do you?
veewonroadate
No but I do outside. Problem is isn’t mask wearing to stop me from transmitting to others and not to stop me from contracting?
Lemmingofdarkestnight
It is but it's not useless to prevent contracting. Along with handwashing and staying away from people I'd rather stay away from anyway.
veewonroadate
Good enough for me. I got downvoted to hell because I was just genuinely curious and not being combative. Thanks for being nice tho.
DorianBlack
Shit ill probably be masked indoors forever, especially since im upgrading to a boba themed full face shield.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Where would one get that?
NeynasGhost
I'm fully vaxxed and I keep my mask on so I can safely visit with my nephews, though I have returned to some non-essential trips out of home
Givememyaccountback
I'll keep wearing a mask even after your toddlers are vaccinated
Marsupialmessiah
Yup. Exactly this, the maga crowd can die off for all i care but kids have no option.
toastfrancaise
And people who can't safely get the vaccine like immune compromised or allergic people
maximilianfragglebottom
same. 2 year olds aren't getting vaccinated any time soon.
MegPintDear
I read somewhere that two year olds might be eligible by the end of this year.
chewieismylandlord
Yeah but there are millions of year old kids out there, what about them?
MegPintDear
There are studies looking at the Covid vaccines for babies too. And others trying to determine if we will need boosters. It’s a process.
Lemmingofdarkestnight
Yup.
Unicron89
FYI the antibodies are transfered through breast milk if any of your kids are still breast feeding. Up to 80 days after vaccination
MegPintDear
I got my vax in Jan/Feb and I am due with my second kid in September. I am happy that he is at least protected for now. It’s a scary time.
DevilDolly
Good to know, thank you ❤ my baby is coming into the world in 3mo and I fear for her, but if me being vaxxed can transfer to her, yaaaay
cheeka987
Where I live they're giving pregnant women the vaccine at the end just like the whooping cough shot because it also transfers to baby
Illpostcheese
I haven't gotten a flu, cold, or bug in some time. Just saying...
skellyten
I haven't gotten sick in years. Just exercise take vitamins and eat right, if everyone did this covid would only be an issue for the
skellyten
predispositioned
Illpostcheese
As someone who works with people and does what you just said, you sir, are full of shit. Which is odd for bone people...
skellyten
How am I full of shit if it works
BritaThePurifier
I just now recovered from the first flu that I've had in more than a year. Mom went maskless at church, she passed it to me. Masks work.
YouHaveNoodsAndIHaveAnInbox
Me either. I worry what that means for the next few cold and flu seasons.
leaderofthedamned
My allergies are finally under control too. I've had 1 sinus infection in almost 2 years, normally I would have had 4-6.
eddy3000
Not so much as a sore throat in the last year and a half
sDsnAlien
/clap
DrKriegersClone
Pretty sure the clap is worse than a sore throat...
Falguran
Doesn't matter, had sex.
FattyMacD
Not saying is not masks, but everywhere is sanitizing the shit out of everything. I'm thinking it's that that's preventing alot of spread
rowanblaze
It's all of the protocols. But yes, masking is a huge part of the drop in common illnesses we're seeing.
DynamaxAgumon
I have kids in elementary school so I have gotten a cold and a couple of stomach bugs this year. Each time I thought it was CoVid lol.
mckenna310
Haven't been sick a day since Jan 2020. Though pollen is kicking my ass right now.
astrumptsasstrumpet
Wish I could say the same. I've had to live in a state of fatalistic resignation and it's been pretty tough to ride the dissonance.
sleepinggreenidea
First year of my adult life that I didn't get the flu...
noxdracoria
my 2yo twins have never been sick, and my husband and I have also not been sick in 2 years - its been pretty amazing and I like it that way
Rektastic
The only sickness I've gotten in over a year, was after a new cat was brought into the house (who was at the shelter for a few months maybe)
thisappisajoke
In Japan where masks are normal, they had just 3k deaths to flu in 2019 where US had 30k the same year.
Cowmayihelpu
yea, I miss Japan
Lostchild12
Japan has a little over 1/3rd of our population. Still that's less than 1/3rd the death rate of the US.
ColdSquirrel
And the comparation when you add in population density?
Lostchild12
Very true. Being a small volcanic island does limit Western style housing & towns. Their public transportation is far more crowded than ours
BustyInnocent
Especially if you consider that Tokyo is the world's densest city
mikeatike
I get it, they are trying to reverse psychology people into getting vaccinated, but it aint gonna fuckin work.
LifeIsHardAsOneThirdOfASmore
I actually know a few people who got vaccinated yesterday because of it- sad they waited this long, but at least they’re doing it
BubblesTheFish
I watched a video on what Biden said about this and the comments were basically, yeah I'm not gonna get vaxxed and also not wearing mask.
TalaayaCosplay
Maybe they're not aiming for the lost causes but rather the people hesitating.
Mrdaihatsu
^ This.
eathotdog
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
No they're just gonna lie about being vaccinated. There have people people caught with fraudulent vaccination cards already.
TA2019
They really should've set an app for this so they couldn't have faked it like that.
DoorbyTheHouseShelf
I mean there isn't even a verification check on the card. We do it for the $5, but you couldn't spring for a watermark at least? Lazy
AfterMidknight
They’d find a way. They always find a way
ScorpionSage
No it’s not. What’s going to happen is they won’t wear masks or get the vaccine. Someone hire a fucking psychologist FFS!
1lightlyfriedfishfillet
Either way they’re going to do neither but they may get a few they were hesitant to go ahead say fuck it.
mikeatike
Exactly They should have actual psychologists running the pr campaign not doctors, viorologists, and epidemiologists.
ScorpionSage
Absolutely
netutoring
My comments exactly.