Jun 14, 2017 7:47 PM
BukakeNoHeroAcademia
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WillyWonk
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PhoenixMelee
Well Wyrmball Z just doesn't have the same ring to it...
KingJulian911
Agreed
eddytor
This shit again ?... Fantastic creature are called however the creator wanted to call them.
funnyflywheel
What, is this another repost?
CocktailGaming
SHUT THE FUCK UP. Dragons can be whatever the author wants them to be.
MrSexbang
This guy gets it
DarksteelPenguin
This doesn't take account of many other myths, and didn't factor in intelligence. I call bullshit on that.
Dagordae
Amazing. They have enough knowledge of fantasy to make arbitrary categories but not enough to realize that the categories are meaningless
Seriously: DnD does not dictate all of fantasy. Especially not historical mythology. They don't even follow those rules.
Arawhon
They still got D&D taxonomy of dragons wrong anyway. They are all considered, except the obvious lizards, to be dragons.
mattbl
"I'm here to clarify the taxonomy of these mythical creatures that humans made up."
cobra29935
The last 2 are real though ????
anarkhiya
Yeah, but it's another universe and reality. It's a dragon there.
wackywoohoopizzaman
THE WYVERNBORN! Sounds much more fantasy than Dragonborn. Ooh, Mother of Wyverns, too
lintwizard
Macho Man Randy Savage wyverns!
Ad3506
I like how the bearded dragon doesn't have a 'real' tag.
YUNoDie
Two of the most popular series involving dragons, Game of Thrones and Tolkien's legendarium, don't fit this. Because its arbitrary + stupid.
Make that three, Skyrim's dragons have two legs and two wings as well.
Tyrannotron
Wouldn't that mean bearded dragons should be called bearded drakes?
HCMEliteReaper
Gaping dragon - 6 legs, 2 wings an a whole load of nope
BhawbTheMagnificent
I sunbro'd the shit out of that boss. Low level Faith character with sunbro lightning, could kill it in a few bolts.
NoLongerFoamingWolffo
And a tiny head
asimplecrusader
MagnusTheRedCyclops
\`[-|-] /
Zobaken
Well, it depends...
zalan26
Don't forget it's wiggly fucking head that just asks to be hit.
TheStaffmaster
Zombie dragon: Various, fucks your shit, Fire is sadly ineffective, despite undeath. Can resurrect if the DM rolls a nat 20 on saving throw.
Easiest boss ever
Trogdoooooooor
Too bad he's so damn easy summoning others to help actually makes the fight more difficult
reverseblumpkin
Steel Dragon - beating off with aluminum foil wrapped around your dick
AAAAALLLLUNIMUMMM FOOOOOIL! I Never Settle for less! Ya'know that wrap is just the best! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk
mottledbear
Forget that noise.
StarkeRealm
At least the Hellkite Drake knows its place. Setting fire to fucking everyone.
Derpstixindustries
Hellkite Drake ain't got no time for anyone's shit.
Hellkite Drake didn't order no fried dead guy pizza, go back under the bridge and deliver it to the rats, like you were supposed to.
Does it set fire to the countryside? How about all the peasants? And what about them thatched roof cottages? DOES IT BURNINATE?
Pyrosiege
2 wings, 2 legs, 1 beefy arm out of the back of it's neck, and consumate "Vs" = Trogdor
It's Lordran, there's not much unhollowed peasantry left to burninate.
Shame.
It really is. The dude should find some new digs, where weirdos don't keep shootin' off his tail, but, you know...
Lifepack1
hellkite "drake" is a wyvern
Sauroctonus
Hellkite Drake don't care. Hellkite Drake wants BBQ.
Yeah, it has identity issues. Also halitosis, come to think of it. Flaming, murderous, halitosis.
NeynasGhost
Drake is often used to denote gender, like swans. I never knew 'drake' meant anything other than male dragon until this chart.
I thought it was just ducks, swans, geese, and (probably) other water fowl. Not dragons.
MachineInterface
Those are fake animals, u can't tell me how to call them.
thatguy1943
willowhoot
bluepopsicles
The world serpent, he says he wants to help us.
QotU
This is...terrifying, actually.
armoredbore
"If I peed my pants, would you pretend I just got wet from the rain? ...it's not raining? Oh..."
untakenusername20
Man I thought this was a scene from a movie at first then I remembered E3
Chrissweg
Looks like the Yeet Dinosaur
Chemeli
Or the nope dinosaur
SickOfThisCessPool
I hope Benedict Cumberbatch voices that serpent.
Fizzledrizzle69
You mean Battlefield Counterstrike?
So sorry! I did mean to say Bristlyfur Cuddlebum.
zamirovski
Boop
JustLookingForFeels
Im so hyped
Buglessdr013
And welcome to my nightmares
AbsoluteMercenary
GrimDarkRealities
I finally understand why she gave it a dolla once, shear intimidation factor...
Murd3rM1tt3nX
Goddammit Jörmungandr, I ain't givin u tree fiddy!
What is this from?!
MyFartsHitMyBalls
What they said!
The new god of war showing at E3. It's Jörmungandr, the world serpent
Efreeti
So, Kratos has traveled to Midgard?
Apparently so
That's sexy
tehzpoon
I fucking KNEW that shit looked like Kratos bait
Humaniak123
I dunno seemed like they may be buddies from the trailer!
TheAdventuresofStealy
Wait... there is Norse mythology in the upcoming God of War reboot?
ohhhhhhello
The whole game is Norse Mythology (and Kratos's son)
Neat. Didn't really pay much attention to E3 outside of Nintendo, but now I'll prob get God of War. Another title I wrote off and now 180'd:
SuperSupply
What about four wings on the bottom and two legs on top? Like upside down dragon
Antigravitodon?
thelazyninja
Repost: An image already seen on the Imgur frontpage.
Yep a repost from some unknown guy I can't remember about a couple of months ago but hey its dragons
Roboholic
So a amphithere is a worm with wings?
onemorepost
BlownByTheMonsignor
So Smaug was a wyvern. And Drogon, Rhaegal & Viserion are all wyverns.
Yes
itxtalone
this has been on the front page once a month, and the comments are always the same. a Dragon is a Dragon if its called a Dragon!
WhimsicalNarwhal
Yeah, it's almost as if different fantasy worlds will have different definitions as to what a dragon is
Zaayl
The only "rule" is flying reptile. People just think the D&D Monster Manual is the end-all be all definitions of monsters.
dnlkiro
This isn't even in keeping with the monster manual.
Not even. J.R.R. Tolkien's first dragon in lore was flightless.
TimeAgain
Big as fuck as well. Morgoth made them smaller and gave them wings.
Disregard that, a quick google reveals that theres an even larger winged dragon called Ancalagon the Black
LaTransDragon
I am passionate to fuck dragons.
*Username checks out*
TheFoxyVixen
Aren't we all.
Radix865
Ireallylovenudes
DO NOT LEWD THE DRAGON LOLI
Love that show, not for lucoa, but I just love that show because it's a good show (is it ok to call anime shows?)
Why wouldn't it be?
I don't know, some people are like "it's not a show, it's an anime!"
Just...ignore those.
icanhazusername
No... this is a drake.
notbrunomars
aboxacaraflatafan
No... this is a drake. https://media.giphy.com/media/tTehnzfXeJmKI/giphy.gif
TooTiredToMasturbate
This is drake dealing you in.... http://imgur.com/lOzkl12
FarNorthFarLeft
Coincidently this is the creature I'm most afraid of. It's high pitched cry will burst your ears & it's mating dance is fucked, too.
Shitposting2017
Y'all remember the "Drake, they type of nigga" jokes that was a thing for awhile?
EZMONEY98
Why did I click on that expecting something else lol
gaidinbdj
http://imgur.com/r7TCnXX ?
DIRIG0
No, this is Becky.
Maybe it's Maybeline.
BlackBiblio
No, that's a little bitch.
BlueMaggot
Seen what happened to Chris Brown?
metaphysicalburrito
HipsterFett
Same thing bro.
thefiresofheaven
what about the dragon of the west? https://media.tenor.com/images/720aca5cb072ffbf361b77f19b27b7f9/tenor.gif
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Two legs, two arms, and a pair of angel wings?
not dead, nor is he an angel. He lives in the spirit world with no physical body
cyberpunxie
4 legs, flightless. Iroh is a drake.
That world also had real dragons, but they followed the chinese style of dragons.
imaginedear
The marvelous thing about imaginary creatures is everyone and anyone gets to make up any and all 'facts' about them.
Woolytop
I used to imagine that Vampire fangs were like two little proboscis that sucked the blood out.
rocketpanda
Did you know that wyrmern's have 1 leg and 1 wing?
Dwerioc
They can't fly, but they can do some pretty sick side flips.
chardmind
What about TROGDOOOOOOR?!!!
DrakeRamorayMD
You called?
AJShepler
Beat me to the comment
TristanVIII
TROGDOR was a man...I mean, he was a dragon-man...Or maybe he was just a dragon...But he was still TROGDOR!
TROGDOOOOOOOR!!!
Dunna-dun-dun, Dunna-dun-duuuun, Dunna Dun DUN Dun, DUN Dun
EveryDayWeStrayFurtherFromGodsLight
What is the source for all this? MTG has several drakes that have wings. The whole thing seems rather subjective.
YeGods
Not subjective; taxonomic. We have these variations, how do we classify them? Well, there are existing names, so lets use them consistently.
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
Fake taxonomy. Fictional fantasy worlds are allowed to be different as long as they are consistent within themselves.
*Real taxonomy about fake things. The post is an intellectual exercise in rigorous thinking and consistent communication.
Also, the wyrms in MTG are often what the drakes are here. And in Dark Souls the drakes are what OP's post describes as wyverns.
CloudberryMoose
Does not account for cultural differences. Norse and English dragons differ, for instance and I never hear about lindwurms having arms.
MrBananaBeak
Here's the thing. Dragons aren't real. So when you call something a "dragon" in a fantasy setting, it's a dragon in that setting.
BuddhaBrudda
So what we're saying here is we need to start an agency that enforces at least some form of industry standardization! Any ideas for names?
Dartimus
By these standards, Smaug is a wyvern in the live action film even though he's called a "fire drake" and is suppose to be a dragon.
He's also called a wyrm in the book. The point being, Tolkien can call whatever he feels like a dragon as long as its a flying snake monster
Oh yeah! forgot the 'Wyrm of dread' part.
flamingflamingo
It is. "Wyrm" is often an all encompassing term for dragons.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Yeah it's pretty fucking stupid to try to claim there's a "right" convention.
FrisianDude
'Drake' is also often used for adolescent dragons. And for male ducks. And it is ENTIRELY subjective. Dragon is what dragon does.
RandomUser69
This screams years of research in the "No Girls Allowed Research Center", aka mom's basement.
VolatileControl
No. You live by this post and you fucking like it!
zeroofshadow
many of them have different language origins but all mean the same thing, they're all (aside from the last few) dragons/drakes/wrym's
Zordicron
Totally dependant on source material. For instance, "How to train your Dragon".
I always thought drake meant male dragon, as it does with male swans, so I think it doesn't REALLY matter.
Might seem subjective, but it's from Tumblr and every time I see a post trying to be informative/educational it's ALWAYS 100% factual, so...
mediaman73
Anyone remember Death and Return of Superman with Max Landis? Vampires, werewol:es, dragons...same rules.
TheLaziestRaccoon
How do you kill a vampire?
SuperBobKing
I doubt that there is any definitive source for most of these that we can point to as the first use of the terms and what they describe. ...
2. Lot's of things just pick a term for dragon-like things seemingly at random, even if it is a major production. I'm pretty sure that in...
3. Dragon's Dogma drakes, wyrms, wyverns, and dragons are all just dragons according to this chart.
Probably one of the D&D monster manuals, if I had to take a guess. Which is of course, its own fantasy world.
infernalspectre
I was gonna say, MTG and DnD are the same company. While that doesn't mean a huge amount, there are some similarities in creatures etc
Pootisborn
No, D&D calls old powerful dragons wyrms. This post was pulled from someone's ass.
Actually, D&D is pretty large about drake morphology. The main difference between Drakes and Dragons in D&D (and MTG) is that dragons 1/2
are intelligent creatures (human-like intelligence, sometimes well above), while drakes are animals (dog-like intelligence).
Your username intrigues me.
It is, completely subjective. They took some of DnD's definitions, mashed them up, and declared them to be objective facts. It's idiotic.
Diyakinos
Same with LOTR definitions of elves and orcs. Because Tolkien was a forefather on that sort of stuff people always say others are copying
mbos14
and if you do them different:"you are ignorant, uncultured or just plain wrong". you cant please poeple.
Orcs didnt really exist before Tolkien, and Elves were depicted as more short tricksters rather than tall, graceful people with pointy ears.
Not subjective; rigorous. So we have a bunch of dragon-types with different characteristics and names. Then ask, "How can we be consistent?"
So to be consistent you make up a bunch of arbitrary distinctions with no basis in mythology and declare it to be factual?
No one's declaring it to be factual, just logical and coherent.
Except it is neither. They are declaring synonyms to actually refer to completely different beasts and saying that everyone else is wrong
Consistency is important when it's the same world. Don't demand all fantasy worlds to be the same.
Firstly, no demands are being made. If that's how it seems, you've misunderstood.
Secondly, the issue is not "fantasy worlds." We're talking about real world communication of fantasy topics; 1/2
That is, actual communication between real people, not fantasy people. 2/2
MobiusTurtle
It is and depends on the rules set in the medium. In Monster Hunter this is a dragon. http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Kirin
astrangehop
"If I says it's a troll, it's a troll. Goblins is always right in Mercadia."
DragonBapt
Well Elder Dragon is a term used for any monster that doesn't fit into any other category.
This is true but that's how Monster Hunter does it. It's mostly an example of rules made up the medium used in the games universe.
EnTaroTassadar42
Go ahead. Call Drogon a wyvern and see what happens. Also.. completely ignores Asiatic dragons and probably other cultures' as well
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
At least Drogon makes some anatomical sense. 4 legs and wings=unnecessary limbs and weight.
LiterallyYourMom
Wyverns are almost always depicted with stinger tails. They don't breathe fire so it's their primary weapon along with claws/bites.
WouldIWasShookspear
I always get so riled up about this. Wyverns are a SUBTYPE OF DRAGONS. 4 legs 2 wings? Western dragon. Just another subtype, not the norm.
powersurge2015
Yes well luckily for us they're mostly not real.
Says you. I wanna genetically engineer one and go all Aegon on someone...and die because I forgot a drone/airforce can easily kill a dragon.
Seems all the more pretentious to claim other people are wrong then
Elonth
tell you what. when you win the cultural world dominance war we will care about asiatic dragons. WHICH WERE MENTIONED IN THE POST.
RedLemonadesBadHairDay
a few weirwood arrows and it'll be drogon pie for tea.
Viserion pie maybe. Drogons going to burninate some zombies
dandelionbomb
TROGDOOOOOR!!!!
MarvelousMuggle
Can I just get an ice dragon for the King in the North?! R+L=J get the man a dragon!
azazyel
Also these as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temeraire_(series)
fadingsignals
Almost forgot that
Orion1453
That.. that actually sounds awesome. Are those books as good as it sounds
Yeah, they're really fun
Also Tolkien dragons..
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
Tolkien's dragons were traditional European dragons - 4 limbs + wings
Uh. Glaurung begs to differ
No, Tolkien's dragons were all over the place.
HeckTheHeckOff
Did...did you even read the entry on Wyrms? It specifically mentions Chinese dragons. I know China != all of Asia, but still
tmotheoreo
Is.... Is that JavaScript?
Habit left over from my JS and Advanced Java courses, so yes
Allrighty
It said "can appear AS a Chinese dragon." Also applying the word "wyrm" to actual Chinese dragons is a really weird cultural mismatch.
They are dragons not wyverns. This person doesnt get to just decide that culture was incorrect labelling them
SilverEtchegaray
Technically they didn't call them "dragons" until someone who knew English decided to give them that word. They used a Chinese word. 1\2
Which probably should've been translated as wyrm but they didn't have this handy Tumblr post to explain the difference. :) 2\2
I see what you're trying to say.. but.. its more likely this Tumblr post just isnt correct
Zodka
Iirc I think the word they used was Long, or maybe Lung? Honestly most of my dragon knowledge comes from D&D.
scout29
In the standard romanization it is long, 龙。
Wyrms**
I'm pretty sure they were saying that what we could call a wyrm, the Chinese called a dragon, not saying they were wrong in calling it that
Even still. Doesnt mention African dragons which seem to fit the same bill as Asiatic. So... yeah
I mean the preamble to me makes it pretty clear that there are dragons amd there are things people mistake for dragons.
QuirkyWallace
Every time this gets posted I have to point out entirely fictional creatures are defined subjectively with creative freedom.
Yes, this. There's also a zombie in Left 4 Dead who's called a Witch. Doesn't meet any part of the definition but like, why even care.
I swear some tumblr users read the Dragonology children's book once and seriously thought they were real world experts on dragons.
Kevincatalan
Hahahah I forgot about that book. This post makes a lot of sense. And yea the Tumblr OP was just an annoying fanboy.
I remember finding that book during the middle school book fair.
WillyWonk
PhoenixMelee
Well Wyrmball Z just doesn't have the same ring to it...
KingJulian911
Agreed
eddytor
This shit again ?... Fantastic creature are called however the creator wanted to call them.
funnyflywheel
What, is this another repost?
CocktailGaming
SHUT THE FUCK UP. Dragons can be whatever the author wants them to be.
MrSexbang
This guy gets it
DarksteelPenguin
This doesn't take account of many other myths, and didn't factor in intelligence. I call bullshit on that.
Dagordae
Amazing. They have enough knowledge of fantasy to make arbitrary categories but not enough to realize that the categories are meaningless
Dagordae
Seriously: DnD does not dictate all of fantasy. Especially not historical mythology. They don't even follow those rules.
Arawhon
They still got D&D taxonomy of dragons wrong anyway. They are all considered, except the obvious lizards, to be dragons.
mattbl
"I'm here to clarify the taxonomy of these mythical creatures that humans made up."
cobra29935
The last 2 are real though ????
anarkhiya
Yeah, but it's another universe and reality. It's a dragon there.
wackywoohoopizzaman
THE WYVERNBORN! Sounds much more fantasy than Dragonborn. Ooh, Mother of Wyverns, too
lintwizard
Macho Man Randy Savage wyverns!
Ad3506
I like how the bearded dragon doesn't have a 'real' tag.
YUNoDie
Two of the most popular series involving dragons, Game of Thrones and Tolkien's legendarium, don't fit this. Because its arbitrary + stupid.
YUNoDie
Make that three, Skyrim's dragons have two legs and two wings as well.
Tyrannotron
Wouldn't that mean bearded dragons should be called bearded drakes?
HCMEliteReaper
Gaping dragon - 6 legs, 2 wings an a whole load of nope
BhawbTheMagnificent
I sunbro'd the shit out of that boss. Low level Faith character with sunbro lightning, could kill it in a few bolts.
NoLongerFoamingWolffo
And a tiny head
asimplecrusader
MagnusTheRedCyclops
\`[-|-] /
Zobaken
Well, it depends...
zalan26
Don't forget it's wiggly fucking head that just asks to be hit.
TheStaffmaster
Zombie dragon: Various, fucks your shit, Fire is sadly ineffective, despite undeath. Can resurrect if the DM rolls a nat 20 on saving throw.
cobra29935
Easiest boss ever
Trogdoooooooor
Too bad he's so damn easy summoning others to help actually makes the fight more difficult
reverseblumpkin
Steel Dragon - beating off with aluminum foil wrapped around your dick
TheStaffmaster
AAAAALLLLUNIMUMMM FOOOOOIL! I Never Settle for less! Ya'know that wrap is just the best! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk
mottledbear
reverseblumpkin
Forget that noise.
StarkeRealm
At least the Hellkite Drake knows its place. Setting fire to fucking everyone.
Derpstixindustries
Hellkite Drake ain't got no time for anyone's shit.
StarkeRealm
Hellkite Drake didn't order no fried dead guy pizza, go back under the bridge and deliver it to the rats, like you were supposed to.
TheStaffmaster
Does it set fire to the countryside? How about all the peasants? And what about them thatched roof cottages? DOES IT BURNINATE?
Pyrosiege
2 wings, 2 legs, 1 beefy arm out of the back of it's neck, and consumate "Vs" = Trogdor
StarkeRealm
It's Lordran, there's not much unhollowed peasantry left to burninate.
TheStaffmaster
Shame.
StarkeRealm
It really is. The dude should find some new digs, where weirdos don't keep shootin' off his tail, but, you know...
Lifepack1
hellkite "drake" is a wyvern
Sauroctonus
Hellkite Drake don't care. Hellkite Drake wants BBQ.
StarkeRealm
Yeah, it has identity issues. Also halitosis, come to think of it. Flaming, murderous, halitosis.
NeynasGhost
Drake is often used to denote gender, like swans. I never knew 'drake' meant anything other than male dragon until this chart.
StarkeRealm
I thought it was just ducks, swans, geese, and (probably) other water fowl. Not dragons.
MachineInterface
Those are fake animals, u can't tell me how to call them.
thatguy1943
willowhoot
bluepopsicles
The world serpent, he says he wants to help us.
QotU
This is...terrifying, actually.
armoredbore
"If I peed my pants, would you pretend I just got wet from the rain? ...it's not raining? Oh..."
untakenusername20
Man I thought this was a scene from a movie at first then I remembered E3
Chrissweg
Looks like the Yeet Dinosaur
Chemeli
Or the nope dinosaur
SickOfThisCessPool
I hope Benedict Cumberbatch voices that serpent.
Fizzledrizzle69
You mean Battlefield Counterstrike?
SickOfThisCessPool
So sorry! I did mean to say Bristlyfur Cuddlebum.
zamirovski
Boop
JustLookingForFeels
Im so hyped
Buglessdr013
And welcome to my nightmares
AbsoluteMercenary
GrimDarkRealities
I finally understand why she gave it a dolla once, shear intimidation factor...
Murd3rM1tt3nX
Goddammit Jörmungandr, I ain't givin u tree fiddy!
Fizzledrizzle69
What is this from?!
MyFartsHitMyBalls
What they said!
Murd3rM1tt3nX
The new god of war showing at E3. It's Jörmungandr, the world serpent
Efreeti
So, Kratos has traveled to Midgard?
Murd3rM1tt3nX
Apparently so
Fizzledrizzle69
That's sexy
tehzpoon
I fucking KNEW that shit looked like Kratos bait
Humaniak123
I dunno seemed like they may be buddies from the trailer!
TheAdventuresofStealy
Wait... there is Norse mythology in the upcoming God of War reboot?
ohhhhhhello
The whole game is Norse Mythology (and Kratos's son)
TheAdventuresofStealy
Neat. Didn't really pay much attention to E3 outside of Nintendo, but now I'll prob get God of War. Another title I wrote off and now 180'd:
SuperSupply
What about four wings on the bottom and two legs on top? Like upside down dragon
lintwizard
Antigravitodon?
thelazyninja
Repost: An image already seen on the Imgur frontpage.
BukakeNoHeroAcademia
Yep a repost from some unknown guy I can't remember about a couple of months ago but hey its dragons
Roboholic
So a amphithere is a worm with wings?
onemorepost
BlownByTheMonsignor
So Smaug was a wyvern. And Drogon, Rhaegal & Viserion are all wyverns.
Fizzledrizzle69
Yes
itxtalone
this has been on the front page once a month, and the comments are always the same. a Dragon is a Dragon if its called a Dragon!
WhimsicalNarwhal
Yeah, it's almost as if different fantasy worlds will have different definitions as to what a dragon is
Zaayl
The only "rule" is flying reptile. People just think the D&D Monster Manual is the end-all be all definitions of monsters.
dnlkiro
This isn't even in keeping with the monster manual.
CocktailGaming
Not even. J.R.R. Tolkien's first dragon in lore was flightless.
TimeAgain
Big as fuck as well. Morgoth made them smaller and gave them wings.
TimeAgain
Disregard that, a quick google reveals that theres an even larger winged dragon called Ancalagon the Black
LaTransDragon
I am passionate to fuck dragons.
BukakeNoHeroAcademia
*Username checks out*
TheFoxyVixen
Aren't we all.
Radix865
Ireallylovenudes
DO NOT LEWD THE DRAGON LOLI
LaTransDragon
Love that show, not for lucoa, but I just love that show because it's a good show (is it ok to call anime shows?)
Radix865
Why wouldn't it be?
LaTransDragon
I don't know, some people are like "it's not a show, it's an anime!"
Radix865
Just...ignore those.
icanhazusername
No... this is a drake.
notbrunomars
aboxacaraflatafan
No... this is a drake. https://media.giphy.com/media/tTehnzfXeJmKI/giphy.gif
TooTiredToMasturbate
This is drake dealing you in.... http://imgur.com/lOzkl12
FarNorthFarLeft
Coincidently this is the creature I'm most afraid of. It's high pitched cry will burst your ears & it's mating dance is fucked, too.
Shitposting2017
Y'all remember the "Drake, they type of nigga" jokes that was a thing for awhile?
EZMONEY98
Why did I click on that expecting something else lol
gaidinbdj
http://imgur.com/r7TCnXX ?
DIRIG0
icanhazusername
No, this is Becky.
MagnusTheRedCyclops
Maybe it's Maybeline.
BlackBiblio
No, that's a little bitch.
BlueMaggot
Seen what happened to Chris Brown?
metaphysicalburrito
HipsterFett
Same thing bro.
thefiresofheaven
what about the dragon of the west? https://media.tenor.com/images/720aca5cb072ffbf361b77f19b27b7f9/tenor.gif
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Two legs, two arms, and a pair of angel wings?
Ireallylovenudes
not dead, nor is he an angel. He lives in the spirit world with no physical body
cyberpunxie
4 legs, flightless. Iroh is a drake.
Radix865
That world also had real dragons, but they followed the chinese style of dragons.
imaginedear
The marvelous thing about imaginary creatures is everyone and anyone gets to make up any and all 'facts' about them.
Woolytop
I used to imagine that Vampire fangs were like two little proboscis that sucked the blood out.
rocketpanda
Did you know that wyrmern's have 1 leg and 1 wing?
Dwerioc
They can't fly, but they can do some pretty sick side flips.
chardmind
What about TROGDOOOOOOR?!!!
DrakeRamorayMD
You called?
AJShepler
Beat me to the comment
TristanVIII
TROGDOR was a man...I mean, he was a dragon-man...Or maybe he was just a dragon...But he was still TROGDOR!
Ireallylovenudes
TROGDOOOOOOOR!!!
TheStaffmaster
Dunna-dun-dun, Dunna-dun-duuuun, Dunna Dun DUN Dun, DUN Dun
EveryDayWeStrayFurtherFromGodsLight
What is the source for all this? MTG has several drakes that have wings. The whole thing seems rather subjective.
YeGods
Not subjective; taxonomic. We have these variations, how do we classify them? Well, there are existing names, so lets use them consistently.
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
Fake taxonomy. Fictional fantasy worlds are allowed to be different as long as they are consistent within themselves.
YeGods
*Real taxonomy about fake things. The post is an intellectual exercise in rigorous thinking and consistent communication.
Radix865
Also, the wyrms in MTG are often what the drakes are here. And in Dark Souls the drakes are what OP's post describes as wyverns.
CloudberryMoose
Does not account for cultural differences. Norse and English dragons differ, for instance and I never hear about lindwurms having arms.
MrBananaBeak
Here's the thing. Dragons aren't real. So when you call something a "dragon" in a fantasy setting, it's a dragon in that setting.
BuddhaBrudda
So what we're saying here is we need to start an agency that enforces at least some form of industry standardization! Any ideas for names?
Dartimus
By these standards, Smaug is a wyvern in the live action film even though he's called a "fire drake" and is suppose to be a dragon.
YUNoDie
He's also called a wyrm in the book. The point being, Tolkien can call whatever he feels like a dragon as long as its a flying snake monster
Dartimus
Oh yeah! forgot the 'Wyrm of dread' part.
flamingflamingo
It is. "Wyrm" is often an all encompassing term for dragons.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Yeah it's pretty fucking stupid to try to claim there's a "right" convention.
FrisianDude
'Drake' is also often used for adolescent dragons. And for male ducks. And it is ENTIRELY subjective. Dragon is what dragon does.
RandomUser69
This screams years of research in the "No Girls Allowed Research Center", aka mom's basement.
VolatileControl
No. You live by this post and you fucking like it!
zeroofshadow
many of them have different language origins but all mean the same thing, they're all (aside from the last few) dragons/drakes/wrym's
Zordicron
Totally dependant on source material. For instance, "How to train your Dragon".
NeynasGhost
I always thought drake meant male dragon, as it does with male swans, so I think it doesn't REALLY matter.
TheAdventuresofStealy
Might seem subjective, but it's from Tumblr and every time I see a post trying to be informative/educational it's ALWAYS 100% factual, so...
mediaman73
Anyone remember Death and Return of Superman with Max Landis? Vampires, werewol:es, dragons...same rules.
TheLaziestRaccoon
How do you kill a vampire?
SuperBobKing
I doubt that there is any definitive source for most of these that we can point to as the first use of the terms and what they describe. ...
SuperBobKing
2. Lot's of things just pick a term for dragon-like things seemingly at random, even if it is a major production. I'm pretty sure that in...
SuperBobKing
3. Dragon's Dogma drakes, wyrms, wyverns, and dragons are all just dragons according to this chart.
Zaayl
Probably one of the D&D monster manuals, if I had to take a guess. Which is of course, its own fantasy world.
infernalspectre
I was gonna say, MTG and DnD are the same company. While that doesn't mean a huge amount, there are some similarities in creatures etc
Pootisborn
No, D&D calls old powerful dragons wyrms. This post was pulled from someone's ass.
DarksteelPenguin
Actually, D&D is pretty large about drake morphology. The main difference between Drakes and Dragons in D&D (and MTG) is that dragons 1/2
DarksteelPenguin
are intelligent creatures (human-like intelligence, sometimes well above), while drakes are animals (dog-like intelligence).
EveryDayWeStrayFurtherFromGodsLight
Your username intrigues me.
Dagordae
It is, completely subjective. They took some of DnD's definitions, mashed them up, and declared them to be objective facts. It's idiotic.
Diyakinos
Same with LOTR definitions of elves and orcs. Because Tolkien was a forefather on that sort of stuff people always say others are copying
mbos14
and if you do them different:"you are ignorant, uncultured or just plain wrong". you cant please poeple.
TimeAgain
Orcs didnt really exist before Tolkien, and Elves were depicted as more short tricksters rather than tall, graceful people with pointy ears.
YeGods
Not subjective; rigorous. So we have a bunch of dragon-types with different characteristics and names. Then ask, "How can we be consistent?"
Dagordae
So to be consistent you make up a bunch of arbitrary distinctions with no basis in mythology and declare it to be factual?
YeGods
No one's declaring it to be factual, just logical and coherent.
Dagordae
Except it is neither. They are declaring synonyms to actually refer to completely different beasts and saying that everyone else is wrong
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
Consistency is important when it's the same world. Don't demand all fantasy worlds to be the same.
YeGods
Firstly, no demands are being made. If that's how it seems, you've misunderstood.
YeGods
Secondly, the issue is not "fantasy worlds." We're talking about real world communication of fantasy topics; 1/2
YeGods
That is, actual communication between real people, not fantasy people. 2/2
MobiusTurtle
It is and depends on the rules set in the medium. In Monster Hunter this is a dragon. http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Kirin
astrangehop
"If I says it's a troll, it's a troll. Goblins is always right in Mercadia."
DragonBapt
Well Elder Dragon is a term used for any monster that doesn't fit into any other category.
MobiusTurtle
This is true but that's how Monster Hunter does it. It's mostly an example of rules made up the medium used in the games universe.
EnTaroTassadar42
Go ahead. Call Drogon a wyvern and see what happens. Also.. completely ignores Asiatic dragons and probably other cultures' as well
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
At least Drogon makes some anatomical sense. 4 legs and wings=unnecessary limbs and weight.
LiterallyYourMom
Wyverns are almost always depicted with stinger tails. They don't breathe fire so it's their primary weapon along with claws/bites.
WouldIWasShookspear
I always get so riled up about this. Wyverns are a SUBTYPE OF DRAGONS. 4 legs 2 wings? Western dragon. Just another subtype, not the norm.
powersurge2015
Yes well luckily for us they're mostly not real.
GodEmperorLetoAtreidesII
Says you. I wanna genetically engineer one and go all Aegon on someone...and die because I forgot a drone/airforce can easily kill a dragon.
EnTaroTassadar42
Seems all the more pretentious to claim other people are wrong then
Elonth
tell you what. when you win the cultural world dominance war we will care about asiatic dragons. WHICH WERE MENTIONED IN THE POST.
RedLemonadesBadHairDay
a few weirwood arrows and it'll be drogon pie for tea.
EnTaroTassadar42
Viserion pie maybe. Drogons going to burninate some zombies
dandelionbomb
TROGDOOOOOR!!!!
MarvelousMuggle
Can I just get an ice dragon for the King in the North?! R+L=J get the man a dragon!
azazyel
Also these as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temeraire_(series)
fadingsignals
Almost forgot that
Orion1453
That.. that actually sounds awesome. Are those books as good as it sounds
azazyel
Yeah, they're really fun
EnTaroTassadar42
Also Tolkien dragons..
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
Tolkien's dragons were traditional European dragons - 4 limbs + wings
EnTaroTassadar42
Uh. Glaurung begs to differ
Dagordae
No, Tolkien's dragons were all over the place.
HeckTheHeckOff
Did...did you even read the entry on Wyrms? It specifically mentions Chinese dragons. I know China != all of Asia, but still
tmotheoreo
Is.... Is that JavaScript?
HeckTheHeckOff
Habit left over from my JS and Advanced Java courses, so yes
Allrighty
It said "can appear AS a Chinese dragon." Also applying the word "wyrm" to actual Chinese dragons is a really weird cultural mismatch.
EnTaroTassadar42
They are dragons not wyverns. This person doesnt get to just decide that culture was incorrect labelling them
SilverEtchegaray
Technically they didn't call them "dragons" until someone who knew English decided to give them that word. They used a Chinese word. 1\2
SilverEtchegaray
Which probably should've been translated as wyrm but they didn't have this handy Tumblr post to explain the difference. :) 2\2
EnTaroTassadar42
I see what you're trying to say.. but.. its more likely this Tumblr post just isnt correct
Zodka
Iirc I think the word they used was Long, or maybe Lung? Honestly most of my dragon knowledge comes from D&D.
scout29
In the standard romanization it is long, 龙。
EnTaroTassadar42
Wyrms**
HeckTheHeckOff
I'm pretty sure they were saying that what we could call a wyrm, the Chinese called a dragon, not saying they were wrong in calling it that
EnTaroTassadar42
Even still. Doesnt mention African dragons which seem to fit the same bill as Asiatic. So... yeah
EnTaroTassadar42
I mean the preamble to me makes it pretty clear that there are dragons amd there are things people mistake for dragons.
QuirkyWallace
Every time this gets posted I have to point out entirely fictional creatures are defined subjectively with creative freedom.
cyberpunxie
Yes, this. There's also a zombie in Left 4 Dead who's called a Witch. Doesn't meet any part of the definition but like, why even care.
QuirkyWallace
I swear some tumblr users read the Dragonology children's book once and seriously thought they were real world experts on dragons.
Kevincatalan
Hahahah I forgot about that book. This post makes a lot of sense. And yea the Tumblr OP was just an annoying fanboy.
QuirkyWallace
I remember finding that book during the middle school book fair.