Right wing propaganda machine is terrified of Mamdani. They have my coworkers complaining about him everyday. A mayor of a city they never plan to visit let alone ever move there.
No, Trump still has his base. Fetterman's base used to be progressives, who obviously have higher standards for their guy. He also still has the (D) next to his name, and he's not charming or interesting when he goes on Fox, so he's not gaining a large following there.
Fetterman only won his election because he campaigned as though he was waaayyy further left than he turned out to be. I bet he gets primaried when he's up for re-election.
Adam Bates, as in, former policy analyst for Cato Institute? 90% of the people attacking Abdul on Piker are Republicans, and the Democratic caucus is fucking furious with Fetterman, and Bates likely knows that but would rather breed intraparty conflict. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/09/04/fetterman-wsj-democrats-criticize
Bates has never denied being a Libertarian, has never shied away from criticizing other Libertarians (whom he realized were primarily motivated by racism) has consistently opposed the actions of MAGA/Trump and Republicans.
not badm republicans just want to stay republican but not be associated with 'bad' republicans. and fettermen is vindicating for them to use as an anchor point as an I told you so that is absolutely not even remotely close to being localized to just Pennsylvania but instead to people sticking up for or are republicans.
Exactly. The democrat party is being reminded that they could actually help ordinary people if they wanted to... and the party elites aren't liking that so much. The status quo is being challenged for the first time, and the centrist trash are afraid.
To understand this, you should understand that Dem leadership is not trying to "win elections," it is trying to "appeal to voters just enough to win elections while giving up as little moneyed interest as possible." This means, to the party's establishment leadership, a +70 is a waste of billionaire goodwill and a -50 is fine if the R candidate is at -51. And, for general elections, they are correct. This is why PRIMARIES ARE SO IMPORTANT. That is where non-billionaires get value from +70.
I haven't been a voter for long. Today was my first time voting in a primary. I'm used to picking not-so-ideal candidates as harm reduction. Who can do the most good while also doing the least harm. Today I got to vote for candidates I actually want to see in office. The magical unicorn Medicare-for-all socialist type. Even if they don't win, I'll have lost nothing and can still vote for the other guy who did win later. It's a surprisingly good feeling.
When people say "both sides," what they really mean is "I don't know how the electoral system in the US works." Understanding the electoral college is the equivalent of understanding long division which, congrats, but that's not understanding math. Learn how candidates get on the ballot. Learn how many opportunities there are before the general election to move the party in a direction that serves you. Because billionaires have, and they are literally killing you with that knowledge.
Robert Reich points out correctly that the Democrat Party sold out to Corporations at the peak of their political power. Watched one of his vids on the subject on Facebook the other day, didn't know that, but it fucking explains so goddamn much.
Don't know the specific video, but I agree with Reich on this (and many other things). One important caveat is that the Democratic Party is a collection of titles and logistics, not an agent with intent. The people holding those titles - and making decisions - sold out to corporations and built a moat to protect their access to those titles. But they can be replaced. In other words, "the party" can't do shit, the people in charge of it use it to do shit. Replace them. In primaries.
Or: primary season starts in 4-6 months, and primary season for the '26 midterms, in terms of getting candidates on the ballot, ended late last year. People have 4-6 months, starting now, to learn their county party's and state party's bylaws, maybe even get some volunteering practice in. A couple weeks of learning, spread over 4-6 months, to be in time for '28. I'm encouraging people to stop thinking like voters in a democracy and start thinking like participants.
The ideal voter, according to the DNC’s actions over the last ~20 years, is:
The registered Republican who might think about contemplating the idea of considering maybe mulling over the possibility of voting for a Democrat… before voting straight-ticket red for the 9th straight election.
The DNC tries hardest to appeal to that demographic, at the expense of all others.
A centrist/right voter will stand by their vote regardless of what that person does.
A leftist will demand their candidate pass every possible purity test and then protest and try and recall them the second they fail one, and it's impossible to please two leftists at the same time.
Stop attacking Dems instead of working with them, and MAYBE they will listen. (Obama changed his immigration policy, and Walz switched views on abortion. Reps never change.)
2/ The overwhelming majority of Dems are career politicians.
If one group will let them keep their jobs, while the other will split the vote to 3rd party because they disagree on any single point and cost them their career, which group do you expect them to reach out to?
We are getting better, as many have learned that we have to work together or we let Nazis win, but traditionally, the left eats its own, while the right stands united.
I have had that second one furiously typed at me more times than I can count, ON THIS SITE! I've even had people 100% seriously accuse me, with a straight fucking face, of being more responsible for fascism than the actual fascist and fascist enablers IN CONGRESS & THE FUCKING SENATE! I wish I was joking.
Looking at your comment history, seems like you consider any politician to the right of Bernie Sanders to be fascist. This includes all the presidents in the last 50 years, as well as all the republicans and most of the democrats in congress. If your stance is "I'm not going to vote because both sides did bad things; we need a revolution and nothing less", you're as useless as the "oh, I don't follow politics" people and far louder about it.
Firstly, Sanders is a centrist, he's only left wing in America, and secondly yes, I view the leaders of a fascist empire as fascist, because America is a fascist empire and has been since 1776. Now if any of those leaders did anything to lead us away from fascism then I would applaud them, but instead they further entrenched the fascism. Dems like Clinton, Obama, and Biden did it quietly and politely, while Reps like Reagan, Bush SR. Bush jr. and Trump did/ are doing it loudly.
So yes, you do consider everyone right of Sanders to be fascist. Your ideal presidential candidate is someone who will denounce all of his predecessors, weaken US diplomatic and economic power globally, will pick a fight w/ every significant economic and political group domestically at the same time, and you won't settle for anything less. I'll be generous and assume that you've done some good volunteering or organizing at the local level, but in elections nobody has any incentive to court you.
Yeah, I've had arguments with him as well. He did the usual shitlib thing where I would ask a question and then he would just dance around it, never actually answer it, and then call me a fascist.
andwings2go
Right wing propaganda machine is terrified of Mamdani. They have my coworkers complaining about him everyday.
A mayor of a city they never plan to visit let alone ever move there.
titoitoi
Ol' Fetty could have woken up from his brain injury talking something useful like, I dunno, Portuguese. Instead we get this.
veronicablood
since his name came up
SavageDrums
We throwing shade at that Skeletor cosplayer Carville? Fuck that idiot.
SwiftyGuy
“Most unpopular politician”? I thought for sure that’s Trump?
18booma
No, Trump still has his base. Fetterman's base used to be progressives, who obviously have higher standards for their guy. He also still has the (D) next to his name, and he's not charming or interesting when he goes on Fox, so he's not gaining a large following there.
madmax17
The Bridge troll.
WillCorrectInaccuraciesForFood
Fetterman only won his election because he campaigned as though he was waaayyy further left than he turned out to be. I bet he gets primaried when he's up for re-election.
GreatOdinsTaint
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jwillywill
QuantumInc
It is a conspiracy theory to say "Democrats are paid to lose" but they are certainly paid. Before Trump both parties were solidly "neoliberal
Cookiesnm1lk
geez. being more unpopular that trump? that is honestly impressive.
jwillywill
RetrogradeLlama
No, that's NOT what centrist Democrats want, Mike from PA.
You and the rest of these hosers can fuck right with your ignorant nonsense.
The Republicans send their thanks.
18booma
Then what exactly do centrist Democrats want?
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
RetrogradeLlama
Thanks for proving my point.
SilverStarPine
You are the enemy of True Americans.
Daliena06
Also term limits because the dude was so goddamn popular that politicians panicked that they'd never get him out of office alive otherwise.
Incidentally, one reason I dislike term limits. Shitty politicians are a dime a dozen, the good ones are a lot harder to replace.
TheOvy
Adam Bates, as in, former policy analyst for Cato Institute? 90% of the people attacking Abdul on Piker are Republicans, and the Democratic caucus is fucking furious with Fetterman, and Bates likely knows that but would rather breed intraparty conflict. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/09/04/fetterman-wsj-democrats-criticize
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Bates has never denied being a Libertarian, has never shied away from criticizing other Libertarians (whom he realized were primarily motivated by racism) has consistently opposed the actions of MAGA/Trump and Republicans.
TheOvy
That's good, but his tweet here is still demonstrably false, and is either cultivated by being in the terminally online bubble, or catering to it.
sitenickname
How bad does it have to be in Pennsylvania for Fetterman to have a higher approval rating with Republicans over the GOP senator of that state?

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/state/pennsylvania/pittsburgh/2026/08/28/fetterman-voters-pa-republican-congressman-mccormick-poll/91505251007/
NootyJooty
Fetterman leave and go be a republican, lol. Wolf in sheeps clothing, amiright?
xizar
Worked for krystn sinema.
viva93
not badm republicans just want to stay republican but not be associated with 'bad' republicans. and fettermen is vindicating for them to use as an anchor point as an I told you so that is absolutely not even remotely close to being localized to just Pennsylvania but instead to people sticking up for or are republicans.
69Voltage
Pretty sure dems didn’t want Sen Brain Dead to side with the republicans when it came to voting
cheeriossuckbecause7
Exactly. The democrat party is being reminded that they could actually help ordinary people if they wanted to... and the party elites aren't liking that so much. The status quo is being challenged for the first time, and the centrist trash are afraid.
swofromtherock
For the first time in living memory! We've been here before, and we won then.
Camelspotting
"Democrat party"
cheeriossuckbecause7
It's sad, how far they've fallen into the rightwing shit.
Camelspotting
LitterBoxKing
Fetterman is the most unpopular politician in America? Way to wear your bias and ignorance on your sleeve, Mike.
LitterBoxKing
Really? You downvoters can't think of __any__ politician less popular than Fetterman?
endem1c
He's very orange... and falls asleep a lot.
PennysWorthOfTea
Smells of feces & fast food, has a propensity for sexual assault...
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
Please elaborate
LitterBoxKing
Donald Trump
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
Fair
bril350
Was…that not obvious?
ImJustHereAtThisPoint
Nothing is obvious on the Internet
dynamojoe
If the Democrats take the Senate, I expect him to go independent just to screw it up.
Decitron
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/09/fetterman-video-gop-convention-trump worrse
LurkingSarcasm
Here's hoping for a stroke of luck!
AllBent
What you did there. We saw it.
KileyBarker
I bet he'd love golf.
hairlessOrphan
To understand this, you should understand that Dem leadership is not trying to "win elections," it is trying to "appeal to voters just enough to win elections while giving up as little moneyed interest as possible." This means, to the party's establishment leadership, a +70 is a waste of billionaire goodwill and a -50 is fine if the R candidate is at -51. And, for general elections, they are correct. This is why PRIMARIES ARE SO IMPORTANT. That is where non-billionaires get value from +70.
barstr7
I haven't been a voter for long. Today was my first time voting in a primary. I'm used to picking not-so-ideal candidates as harm reduction. Who can do the most good while also doing the least harm. Today I got to vote for candidates I actually want to see in office. The magical unicorn Medicare-for-all socialist type. Even if they don't win, I'll have lost nothing and can still vote for the other guy who did win later. It's a surprisingly good feeling.
hairlessOrphan
When people say "both sides," what they really mean is "I don't know how the electoral system in the US works." Understanding the electoral college is the equivalent of understanding long division which, congrats, but that's not understanding math. Learn how candidates get on the ballot. Learn how many opportunities there are before the general election to move the party in a direction that serves you. Because billionaires have, and they are literally killing you with that knowledge.
NKato
Robert Reich points out correctly that the Democrat Party sold out to Corporations at the peak of their political power. Watched one of his vids on the subject on Facebook the other day, didn't know that, but it fucking explains so goddamn much.
hairlessOrphan
Don't know the specific video, but I agree with Reich on this (and many other things). One important caveat is that the Democratic Party is a collection of titles and logistics, not an agent with intent. The people holding those titles - and making decisions - sold out to corporations and built a moat to protect their access to those titles. But they can be replaced. In other words, "the party" can't do shit, the people in charge of it use it to do shit. Replace them. In primaries.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Alot of them are party officials who hold no elected office. Its a whole career path
NKato
Correct. But primary season is just about over, and the progressives have made significant gains, but not enough to fully unseat the corpos.
hairlessOrphan
Or: primary season starts in 4-6 months, and primary season for the '26 midterms, in terms of getting candidates on the ballot, ended late last year. People have 4-6 months, starting now, to learn their county party's and state party's bylaws, maybe even get some volunteering practice in. A couple weeks of learning, spread over 4-6 months, to be in time for '28. I'm encouraging people to stop thinking like voters in a democracy and start thinking like participants.
NKato
I'm not going to assume 2028 is going to happen. I'm viewing the midterms right now as our last real shot at putting a check on Trump's dipshittery.
MikeRInternetTraveler
The ideal voter, according to the DNC’s actions over the last ~20 years, is:
The registered Republican who might think about contemplating the idea of considering maybe mulling over the possibility of voting for a Democrat… before voting straight-ticket red for the 9th straight election.
The DNC tries hardest to appeal to that demographic, at the expense of all others.
jasondeslin
A centrist/right voter will stand by their vote regardless of what that person does.
A leftist will demand their candidate pass every possible purity test and then protest and try and recall them the second they fail one, and it's impossible to please two leftists at the same time.
Stop attacking Dems instead of working with them, and MAYBE they will listen. (Obama changed his immigration policy, and Walz switched views on abortion. Reps never change.)
Not Fetterman, fuck fake Dems. 1/
jasondeslin
2/ The overwhelming majority of Dems are career politicians.
If one group will let them keep their jobs, while the other will split the vote to 3rd party because they disagree on any single point and cost them their career, which group do you expect them to reach out to?
We are getting better, as many have learned that we have to work together or we let Nazis win, but traditionally, the left eats its own, while the right stands united.
Push for better during Primaries.
jwillywill
MikeRInternetTraveler
Accurate
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
I have had that second one furiously typed at me more times than I can count, ON THIS SITE! I've even had people 100% seriously accuse me, with a straight fucking face, of being more responsible for fascism than the actual fascist and fascist enablers IN CONGRESS & THE FUCKING SENATE! I wish I was joking.
jwillywill
unsneakyLurker
Looking at your comment history, seems like you consider any politician to the right of Bernie Sanders to be fascist. This includes all the presidents in the last 50 years, as well as all the republicans and most of the democrats in congress. If your stance is "I'm not going to vote because both sides did bad things; we need a revolution and nothing less", you're as useless as the "oh, I don't follow politics" people and far louder about it.
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
Firstly, Sanders is a centrist, he's only left wing in America, and secondly yes, I view the leaders of a fascist empire as fascist, because America is a fascist empire and has been since 1776. Now if any of those leaders did anything to lead us away from fascism then I would applaud them, but instead they further entrenched the fascism. Dems like Clinton, Obama, and Biden did it quietly and politely, while Reps like Reagan, Bush SR. Bush jr. and Trump did/ are doing it loudly.
unsneakyLurker
So yes, you do consider everyone right of Sanders to be fascist. Your ideal presidential candidate is someone who will denounce all of his predecessors, weaken US diplomatic and economic power globally, will pick a fight w/ every significant economic and political group domestically at the same time, and you won't settle for anything less. I'll be generous and assume that you've done some good volunteering or organizing at the local level, but in elections nobody has any incentive to court you.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Sisyphusrolling will probably crap some similar filth here if he notices someone trash talking his beloved corporate democrats
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
The very mention of that name gives a throbbing headache. Rarely have I seen such a blind simp for the Democrats.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Here's one of the other usual suspects. If anyone dares hope for a better world and reject the status quo, he comes out guns blazing in the comments
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
Yeah, I've had arguments with him as well. He did the usual shitlib thing where I would ask a question and then he would just dance around it, never actually answer it, and then call me a fascist.