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https://www.kcra.com/amp/article/california-ab-935-no-tobacco-sales-born-after-2006/43049994
Reidsb
Won't older folks just start selling it to younger folks? Congrats you've recreated the concept of dealers.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Coming soon, tobacco cartels
Nalianna
Should have happened 6 years ago... 1999 vs 2000 is easy on ID's
BobHubert
On one hand, good, on the other, I would still like to buy cigars and pipe tobacco. Good thing I’m born after 2007
CoqRoq
Do you mean before 2007?
BobHubert
I did yeah lol
Admithetruth
Oh good the youth will smoke out of sheer spite now.... ugh
FuryFuryMon
Fast google search here 600+ chemicals, when burned creat 7000+ chemicals. 69+ known to cause cancer. literal 0 health benefits. Nov 17 2022
FuryFuryMon
Why would anyone want to create more generations of smokers when its literal poison and self caused addiction. literally burning your money
FuryFuryMon
The answer is becuase someone benefits from it. Also when the population has less money they get more disperate to take shittier jobs. cycle
TI99Kitty
But I wouldn't want to disappoint all those tobacco companies that spent all that money to convince me smoking is cool and good for me.
ThomasThundersword
because this worked so well for pot, and alcohol, and everything else that’s been ban. i’m a for banning smoking in public places, and >
ThomasThundersword
laws about second hand smoke around minors even at home. but a blanket ban on tobacco is a bad idea, it’s wrong, and it should not have any>
ThomasThundersword
better image in the public eye than a ban on pot or on alcohol. it’s an adult’s right to poison themselves if they want.
VInTheSkyWithElephants
Yeah I don’t see how this is different than the war on drugs, which everyone now calls to legalize and tax
LehmanParty
Banning vice is a slippery slope. This should be up to the individual and not the government. Beer, soda, corn syrup, meat...
zFUBARz
I mean... use of Corn syrup should probably be regulated much more heavily especially in commercial products.
kingdomdokha
Seems like a good way to usher in a generation of republican voters…
JiffyGee
Isn’t Australia or New Zealand doing this already?
shawnmilo
They have already done this in New Zealand.
doobiedoobop
Pfft tobacco companies won't give a shit. Vapes are their preferred nicotine delivery system now - and the kids are all over that shit.
Baelnorn
How do the indigenous feel about this?
MightyZephyr
If this were Arkansas, I would just assume they're trying to do away with the child labor smoking breaks.
fadingtheory
Ah yes, who could possibly support the elimination of tax funding from the sale of... poison.
Sticklebrickk
If it's literally just tobacco and water, like American spirits or Winston, fine. But we don't need 34 flavors of Marlboro.
crasshtack
Also, how would we fund health programs to fix the problems that said poison created? Do they know the benefits of revolving door programs?
Btch128
Because, at least in the south, any budget issues were fixed by raising nicotine taxes
bamcobra
Oh, I thought they fixed the budget by eliminating education.
1nonlyS
Fuck tobacco, we got weed
wndjjcjrndjzjenenruxueb
This is a tough one, on one hand I hate the smell and ruined dinner nights from second hand smoke, but at the same time I enjoy alcohol and
wndjjcjrndjzjenenruxueb
I know there is nothing good about it for me. So it’s hard to support this and know how don’t want alcohol or other drugs banned
GuestChrist
They're doing something like that in NZ. Smoking is bad but I don't know what to think of laws like that.
monkeyshines
It's extremely effective. Teen smoking has halved in just a few years, and there isn't much of a black market in NZ.
pullingsixty
It's not something like that, it's exactly that. Before California.
GuestChrist
Well I didn't know the particulars.
pullingsixty
No worries. just think NZ should get full credit for legislation
Mewmus
Cigarettes are quite literally money up in smoke
lxix
Its amazing that most here won't judge someone for their chosen pronouns, sexual pref. or abortion stance but when it comes to smoking......
Mewmus
Smoking hurts everyone
Mewmus
a couple of butthurt smokers
jetah
food is literally money is shit. drink is literally money in piss.
jetah
fuck.. mistyped the first in as is...
DougTheLlama
Except for the whole creating energy and allowing you to... y'know... live
charlie2979
The obvious difference really is you'll die if you don't eat or drink. That's what the money is for, not dying.
Tygerion
You, sir, are not just a clown; you are the entire circus. If you do not drink, you die. If you do not eat, you die. Not so for smoking.
seakoos
Because making things illegal has worked well in the past. S/ please see prohibition. also the war on drugs
DigYourselfBaby
Yeah, look at all the illegal trade in asbestos and lead paint.
poochyena
So your argument is we should have no laws because making things illegal does nothing? This isn't prohibition or the war on drugs. It bans
DildoMussolini
OH SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY SHOULD GIVE BABIES THE DEATH PENALTY UNLESS THEY SMOKE??? BUH BUH BUH?! You hysterical big government dope.
poochyena
the sale, not the possession.
TheUglyGuy
Tobacco taxes mean the state has a vested interest in supporting tobacco sales.
funone77
Gotta break the cycle
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Except now they have Marijuana taxes to take its place!
TheUglyGuy
Good point, but it's only a problem if they are both trying to reduce use and maintain tax income.
Shaows
How the tables will turn, weed smokers will be free to partake, while tobacco users will have to go to their local dealer for dime bags.
DaveSamsonite
It’s just a bill. It’s not a law, unlikely to be one either. I hate smoke. I would like to see it entirely illegal.
Imalwaysready
We live in strange times.
greenf1sh
Honestly, the weed smokers can fuck off as well, that shit smells worse than the cigarettes.
FunkyFreshPup
The smell doesn’t stick around like tobacco though. Plus, unlike cigarettes, people don’t chain smoke joints (normally)
greenf1sh
It sticks around worse than cigs, and carries further.
SlickWithaLimerick
It's actually NOT that hip to be a square.
VonZinzer
Giant ziploc baggie of cigs from your closest reservation!
xavierjmole
I see you Tanis
pullingsixty
No one who is a legal age smoker will be denied until they die
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
...and then there's always cremation
JesaraB
Except that over time less places will bother to purchase/stock them because it won't be worth it.
JesaraB
But that's over the course of 20-50 years
pullingsixty
Are you sad for smokers or tobacco companies? Lots of things get phased out over time.
Cthulhuonabike
Tobacco isn't going anywhere. It has a huge international market
landbaronness42
A cigarette smoker will light up a dozen times a day. A pot smoker with a job is going to wait for home. Less cigs = less cancer.
phuzz00
I'm 'working' from home, so I can light up when I like :)
rollercostarican
some sure. But plenty of people would/do smoke on the job depending on the position.
Shuckeru
Haaaaaaa
landbaronness42
Plus there’s edibles. I guess the cigarette equivalent is chewing tobacco? Even that is more cancerous.
DeadSchrodinger
As someone who quit smoking last month after 25 years of trying, I support the sentiment. But you're making them cool again by banning them.
Dissipo
I quit 18 years ago. My hatred of smoking is off the charts. I cannot stand the smell. It's such a selfish habit.
nero4ty2
They aren’t shown in movies or shows anymore, nobody glorifies it, it’ll be a niche rebellion that kids can’t afford
misstwosense
This is so crazy naive. Also, bizarre to discount the thousands of older movies that will continue to exist that will eternally glorify it.
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
Stay strong, it will soon get better! First 3-4 weeks were the worst or me, quickly got easier after that.
DeadSchrodinger
The only thing that ever worked was vaping, so that's my full time job now. At least I smell like pineapple
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
Just like Spongebob!
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
It's all about breaking habits. About forbidding will make it cool: the vape stuff does that, too - best to nip it in the bud right now IMO.
PlayingCroquetOnMars
Nah, it's all about vaping these days (in my country at least). Hardly anyone under 25 uses cigarettes.
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
Imagine being a smoker born in 2005, you'll get carded for the rest of your life.? But seriously, IMO it's a fair way to phase out tobacco.
d0n0r
They don't care about fair. They only care about pushing their own agenda.
DexPumpkinGod
Im confused by this on many levels. What is a politicians job, if not to push an “agenda”? They just randomly pick stuff to support?
DexPumpkinGod
You support less regulation of tobacco then?
TI99Kitty
They're responding to the "They don't care about fair. They only care about pushing their own agenda." comment
Heavenissize17socks
Agreed. I don't smoke cigars. But if you take away my right to purchase one we're going to have issues.
ColonelColon
You realize that's not a right? You literally do not have the right to buy whatever you want. It doesn't exist.
3wattbulb
I've never heard something so painfully American
modus0
If you're already old enough to purchase tobacco, this won't affect you.
Winstitutionalized
Who else's agenda would they push?
TI99Kitty
Mine. They should push MY agenda. The one to start training new smokers NOW, by giving them cigarettes while they're still in the womb. /S
Delaeden
Ah, yes. The agenda of protecting future generations from *squints* addiction and lung cancer.
ThisGostakIsHereForTheDoshes
Don't understand the resentment. As an ex smoker, nothing will be lost by not getting new people hooked on this shitty addiction.
TI99Kitty
As a current smoker, nothing will be lost by not getting new people hooked on this shitty addiction.