Never trust indicators, always wait for them to be gone. Mum did it once, someone indicating to turn left whilst she was waiting like in this example. She pulled out, guy plowed right into the side of her. He'd just left his indicator on, he had no intentions of turning.
Now she'll wait until the cars are definitely passed or far away enough for her to pull out, it pisses off traffic behind us but better safe than totalled.
even if the green car had a turn signal showing their intention to turn, I WOULD STILL WAIT. there are too many idiots who don't know how to use signals or change their minds and then don't cancel the signal. it's not a race to see who gets to the finish line first. it's a contest to see how often each can get out on the road, do their business and then get home safe.
If you don't have the room to make the safe left, don't go until they're physically turning in. It's always worth waiting the extra 20 seconds to be sure so some dingus doesn't t-bone you because their blinker has been on for the last two miles and they weren't actually going to turn.
If the other cars wants to trick you into an accident that will be entirely your fault, this is the way to go. Always wait, even if they are signaling.
Ya know whats F-up about this? You have ppl that after seeing this, do it on purpose because now you have given them acknowledgement that it irritates you. And we got alot of those lately.
Homie if you would make any turn, in this scenario you need to stop driving. That's an accident waiting to happen. You are way too naive if you think that guy didn't forget his blinker on.
Look, buddies, I'm a millennial. Either I shave a few seconds off my best time, or I die horribly. I'm not really seeing the downside here. Blinkers on, I'm going.
worse: oncoming car's driver has NO IDEA about rules of the road, and stops... motioning you to take your life into your own hands and make an illegal left turn in front of him... welcome to tex-ass
I hate this. Or when there’s a car in front of you that wants to let everyone in even though there’s no car behind you and everyone could be on the road without us coming to a stop and wasting fuel.
Sounds like the type of person who thinks literally everything should be deregulated and privatized, and then gets mad when the town he took over with his friends fills up with garbage and gets overrun by bears.
I never had to teach mine, but I would tell them to treat everyone like their morons. However, they got to see it first hand. Had a car pass another car at 65 which they passed me (one on the right shoulder, the other in the left lane). Someone merged facing me into my lane at a red light to turn left (my right). And that's just what I can remember off hand.
My uncle (Vietnam era chopper pilot) taught me that "every other driver is trying to kill you (e.g., trick you with their blinker to draw you out so they can ram you) so drive accordingly." Best driving advice ever. 40+ years of zero accident but a lot of other drivers proving him right.
I live off a former highway, so people go pretty fast. If the blinker is accompanied by considerable deceleration I will trust it, but it's rare. I swear half the drivers think it's fury fucking road out here.
What about stop signs? People will sit for 5 seconds waiting for me to reach the four way stop, apparently to make sure I’m actually going to stop. So now I have to wait for them the clear the intersection when they could have been gone before I got there.
4 way stops are awful, but only because people never seem to understand who has the right-of-way (ROW). 1) Whoever stops first, has ROW, and goes first. 2) If whoever has ROW goes straight, the opposite side may also go straight, or yield to ROW to turn left 3) Any cars perpendicular to ROW go next, based on who stopped first. Go back to 1). Repeat.
Nope, still waiting even if blinker is on. May change their mind, forgot blinker was on, or decide at the last second it's the wrong street. People can be dumb. Wait the extra 30 seconds.
My wife totalled her first car on thebday she got her license because she trusted a turn signal. Person had left their signal on, she thought they were turning, she pulled out, and they went straight. She was fine, but we've never trusted a signal since. This post is made by a bad driver and likely a roadrager.
I don't go unless they wave or flash their lights to let me go (lots of people do that if traffic is insane and they want to be nice), but I keep in mind who is behind them. Plenty of assholes who will zoom around a car in the other lane.
Good advice. Had a near miss trying to turn left with some dumbass approaching in the opposite left lane with left blinker on but apparently wasn't planning on turning left. just had their blinker on for some reason.
I mean, maybe if they are only 1 second away, but this person’s illustration clearly depicts a scenario where you have plenty of time/space to merge without high risk of an accident, but it would merely inconvenience the advancing driver by causing them to unduly slow down. 2nd driver was trying to be polite, not avoid an accident, and that politeness was shat on because 1st driver couldn’t be bothered to turn on an indicator.
I was taught this when learning to drive, and promptly failed my test. I've gone a different direction and bought a car with an awful lot of torque, which helps cater for getting out of dodge rapidly.
The only two close calls I've ever had were because of some idiot that had their turn signal on that didn't mean it. I always wait for them to get away from me now
SO TRUE! I work at a lake and people drink and drive often. Never assume; the number one spot where accidents occur here is at a stop sign that enters a road with a very high-speed limit. More often than not someone pulls out too early and they get T boned. So please do not risk it! Stay SAFE.
For real. I’m in my 30s, and I’ve been working with the public my entire career. People can be absolute animals about some shit. Take your time, it’s worth the peace of mind imo.
True, But as a pedestrian. I usually have time to cross in both scenarios. But if their blinker is off I assume they're going to speed up so I do not cross. Then they turn...
Yep. Oftentimes it's just someone who forgot to turn their signal off after changing lanes or something like that - so never trust a signal.
What this means is that turn signals are basically useless - but only for the vehicle in front of you. The main purpose of turn signals is for any car *behind* you, to let them know you're slowing down.
P.S. to follow up - perhaps I was a bit hyperbolic there. From a *legal* standpoint they're generally useless; however it's still a good thing to do from a courtesy standpoint. Even though it's not a good idea to trust turn signals - some people do - and thus it's still a good courtesy to use yours, and that's a good thing. (However don't, under any circumstances, "change your mind" and go straight after using your signal. If you realize you're at the wrong road - turn anyway, and retrace)
I was guilty of this recently and the driver honked and yelled at me as I was turning. However, all the context clues that I was turning were there. I slowed down significantly, pulled to the right side of the lane to execute a turn, and then turned carefully. I think he would have trusted me if I had my blinker on, but I dont trust anyone until they are committed to an action fully. So F that guy.
When I was a teen, I nearly got t-boned trusting someone was going to make the turn they had signaled. I'm really glad it happened, because I learned a valuable lesson without having to get hurt.
Yeah, after some years of experience I also started doing that. However, asshole behind me that are clearly the better judge on when it's safe for me to turn will beep their horns.
I never assume to know what a driver plans to do. So I'll go when I think there's enough time/space that I can do so apparently. But if I see a signal, that means I should have a little more time. I still won't go if I don't think I could gun it to safely avoid getting hit if they turned out to not be turning, though.
If they speed up and clip you, it would be your fault. Be careful, people do this intentionally in my province (and I suspect they do in the US in some capacity as well)
This. I was a passenger in a car where the driver trusted a turn signal in exactly this situation, and we got T-boned by a pickup going around 50 mph. It was less fun than you might imagine.
A 19 year-old in our neighborhood died just two weeks ago to something like ths- the driver trusted a turn signal and got rolled by the signaling vehicle :( -- I think "Assume everyone else on the road can't drive" is sage advice, trusting other drivers with their 3-ton weapons isn't good for your health
Yep I don’t trust anyone behind the wheel. More than once I’ve been in that situation where somebody has a signal on, I pull out, they continue straight and blast their horn at me.
Guy stinting at a stop sign with turn signal on. No one coming. I wait a full minute then honk. He flips me off, rolls down the window and angrily waves me to GO AR9ND. So yea…people are absolutely idiots and in this case I don’t mean me.
Yep. While the post shows one side of the shitty driver coin, the other is the person that starts signaling half a mile before they turn, passing multiple intersections before they do.
So this was as I was waiting at a stop sign at a roomy intersection: The crossing street's curb was angled in toward the intersection, but not enough to make for an actual turning lane. They had their right turn signal on, the front of their car dipped a bit as they slowed, the front wheels started to turn, and THEN they swerved back to keep going straight. That was a close call.
I'm blind in one eye, so I cannot perceive depth properly- I rather wait and not need to than risk anything. Other safe drivers probably do the same. With that said, I think it's worth acknowledging that, unless the road is extraordinarily flat and straight, one will not be able to see an approaching car for a full 30 seconds- that is an insane distance / time on a road. (At 30mph, for example, you're talking about a full quarter mile to work with, or >1300ft)
Fellow pirate! I too get unnecessarily honked at for not risking my life by pulling out in front of oncoming traffic. I pretty much avoid unprotected left hand turns because of it.
You're vastly underestimating how long 30 seconds is. You've basically waited a full light cycle at a T intersection. If you need that long to make a turn, you're never turning, because any car within a quarter mile going 30mph is going to reset the timer.
TheUglyGuy
Don't trust that oncoming car until I actually see them start to turn. And even then there may be some doubt.
bobbsr
Green car is probably a BMW..
baals
Oh I'll flip them off for this. And it's right in there face so they know, a long with the 'whqt the fuck are you doing" palm up gesture
TyrannusEquus
Never trust a turn signal
Commander5AM
Never trust indicators, always wait for them to be gone. Mum did it once, someone indicating to turn left whilst she was waiting like in this example. She pulled out, guy plowed right into the side of her. He'd just left his indicator on, he had no intentions of turning.
Now she'll wait until the cars are definitely passed or far away enough for her to pull out, it pisses off traffic behind us but better safe than totalled.
FreshOutTheBox
On junctions, i'm waiting to see them turn but in the UK this happens on roundabouts and it's infuriating.
psmith00
even if the green car had a turn signal showing their intention to turn, I WOULD STILL WAIT. there are too many idiots who don't know how to use signals or change their minds and then don't cancel the signal. it's not a race to see who gets to the finish line first. it's a contest to see how often each can get out on the road, do their business and then get home safe.
Calicoastin818
People that do this, I have and will continue to flip them off
SubTrout
If you don't have the room to make the safe left, don't go until they're physically turning in. It's always worth waiting the extra 20 seconds to be sure so some dingus doesn't t-bone you because their blinker has been on for the last two miles and they weren't actually going to turn.
bittenicht39
If the other cars wants to trick you into an accident that will be entirely your fault, this is the way to go. Always wait, even if they are signaling.
Comadus
Ya know whats F-up about this? You have ppl that after seeing this, do it on purpose because now you have given them acknowledgement that it irritates you. And we got alot of those lately.
Vamp13
Homie if you would make any turn, in this scenario you need to stop driving. That's an accident waiting to happen. You are way too naive if you think that guy didn't forget his blinker on.
IOftenDeleteCommentsCauseISuckAtTyping
Look, buddies, I'm a millennial. Either I shave a few seconds off my best time, or I die horribly. I'm not really seeing the downside here. Blinkers on, I'm going.
purgruv
Yeah ok but why are you waiting in a nipple?
Echo18
I can think of worse places to wait.
purgruv
Not wrong.
nightookami
Love me a good ol classic "FFFFUUUUUUU"
Wuz314159
I spent 20 minutes trying to get through a traffic light yesterday. Got hit twice in the process. I hate people.
Becker37
Don't trust people. Wait no matter what
LackadasicalGoblin
As a bus driver I dont even trust a turn signal. I wont budge till they start turning.
dank69
1 of a thousand inconsiderate things I see drivers do every single day. The drivers' education and DL testing in this country is woefully inadequate.
DeamgonDork
Yeee frick them
DreamingOfDistantShores
Remember, everyone on the road is a moron trying to kill you. Including yourself, sometimes.
Dreadric
If you ever think your job is pointless just know someone installs turnsignals at the BMW factory
omfglmfao
worse: oncoming car's driver has NO IDEA about rules of the road, and stops... motioning you to take your life into your own hands and make an illegal left turn in front of him... welcome to tex-ass
qwertdeep
I hate this. Or when there’s a car in front of you that wants to let everyone in even though there’s no car behind you and everyone could be on the road without us coming to a stop and wasting fuel.
FredGarvinMaleProstitute
pulling out, based on your mistaken belief that the turn signal and their intent to turn are related, is foolish.
Mazzy94
I'll use my indicators. All I need from you is about $3.50
thesunisgettingreallow
GET OUTTA HERE YOU GODDAMN LOCH NESS MONSTA
Mazzy94
Oh come on now; how about just $2.50?
FellaWithUmbrella
WackyTicTacCasualty
It's not just beemer drivers....
notyoubizness
No, but it INCLUDES beemer owners...
RubbleTrouser
Please add Mercedes, porches, Lexus and pickup truck owners
redtruck
Sounds like you may be the problem, buddy.
CoffeeDaemon
And specifically Vauxhall Insignias. Not 100% sure why but DAMN dude. Stop trying to kill us both.
FermentTheRich3000
These are jeep owners now.
thatsbadmmkay
Tesla too
sirwolfyy
Jeep, BMW, Audi, lifted truck, and for some reason around me: Kia Telluride drivers.
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
Jeeps and Nissans, it's like they only come with permanent high beam headlights and a binary gas pedal.
Higure
"Where I'm going is none of your business" is a reason I've heard for not using the blinker.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
"Where they're going" is going to be under some semi's rear axle and the idiot won't take anyone with them if we're lucky.
llortamai
Sounds like the type of person who thinks vaccines have micro chips in them.
sturmhauke
Sounds like the type of person who thinks literally everything should be deregulated and privatized, and then gets mad when the town he took over with his friends fills up with garbage and gets overrun by bears.
Anonaru
Holy crap are you talking about Grafton? What a god damn mess!
sturmhauke
Yeah, that's the place.
thelazyninja
My grandpa only ever had one useful piece of advice: never trust a turn signal.
ChronicEd
I never had to teach mine, but I would tell them to treat everyone like their morons. However, they got to see it first hand. Had a car pass another car at 65 which they passed me (one on the right shoulder, the other in the left lane). Someone merged facing me into my lane at a red light to turn left (my right). And that's just what I can remember off hand.
ColdestOne
ChronicEd
ChronicEd
Exactly as I said.
ItAintAllitsCrackedUpToBe
My uncle (Vietnam era chopper pilot) taught me that "every other driver is trying to kill you (e.g., trick you with their blinker to draw you out so they can ram you) so drive accordingly." Best driving advice ever. 40+ years of zero accident but a lot of other drivers proving him right.
thesunisgettingreallow
I live off a former highway, so people go pretty fast. If the blinker is accompanied by considerable deceleration I will trust it, but it's rare. I swear half the drivers think it's fury fucking road out here.
Iwouldbenick
Fart*
thelazyninja
Nah. Dude had a colostomy bag. He could fart all he wanted.
shehaseyes
Look under parked cars before you pass them.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
What about stop signs? People will sit for 5 seconds waiting for me to reach the four way stop, apparently to make sure I’m actually going to stop. So now I have to wait for them the clear the intersection when they could have been gone before I got there.
thelazyninja
4 way stops are awful, but only because people never seem to understand who has the right-of-way (ROW).
1) Whoever stops first, has ROW, and goes first.
2) If whoever has ROW goes straight, the opposite side may also go straight, or yield to ROW to turn left
3) Any cars perpendicular to ROW go next, based on who stopped first. Go back to 1). Repeat.
HowMuchWoodCouldAWoodDuckDuckIfAWoodDuckCouldDuckWood
My dad said if you see someone with a turn signal on the only thing that tells you is their turn signal works
astrangehop
"Always expect the other driver to do the wrong thing. Because eventually they will."
oaberbyamd
Drive defensive. Always
astrangehop
I've probably avoided 20 bad wrecks in my life because I was an extra 50 feet away from stupid things happening.
Snarkophilus
Your grandpa got it right.
PorneliusHubertII
My dad's best advice regarding driving, "Everyone is an idiot actively trying to kill you."
Bluekitten03
They really are. They have no idea the consequences of their selfish "manovers" to get a head or go just a bit faster.
BklynPunisher
Mine had his “Never trust a fart”
CommentsThisTimeLastYear
Nope, still waiting even if blinker is on. May change their mind, forgot blinker was on, or decide at the last second it's the wrong street. People can be dumb. Wait the extra 30 seconds.
ThatShiftyMonkey
My wife totalled her first car on thebday she got her license because she trusted a turn signal. Person had left their signal on, she thought they were turning, she pulled out, and they went straight. She was fine, but we've never trusted a signal since.
This post is made by a bad driver and likely a roadrager.
mfcrogue
Yup had this happen to me they left their indicator on glad I waited
nuxi7
Or they might be turning into the next driveway.
There is a busy spot where i live where i don't use my turn signal because of this.
MissChickle
I don't go unless they wave or flash their lights to let me go (lots of people do that if traffic is insane and they want to be nice), but I keep in mind who is behind them. Plenty of assholes who will zoom around a car in the other lane.
staceyjorgenson31415
Until I’m at the sticks of a Leopard 2, I’ll wait for a few minutes :)
decoyyy
Good advice. Had a near miss trying to turn left with some dumbass approaching in the opposite left lane with left blinker on but apparently wasn't planning on turning left. just had their blinker on for some reason.
dirtyketchup
I mean, maybe if they are only 1 second away, but this person’s illustration clearly depicts a scenario where you have plenty of time/space to merge without high risk of an accident, but it would merely inconvenience the advancing driver by causing them to unduly slow down. 2nd driver was trying to be polite, not avoid an accident, and that politeness was shat on because 1st driver couldn’t be bothered to turn on an indicator.
Fanner50
And they wonder why people flip them off
iamthegoonsquad
I was on my motorcycle and forgot my blinker was on. Damn near got killed in this exact scenario.
oaberbyamd
Drive defensive. Always.
BEARD3DBEANIEE
I just start to turn when I've 100% noticed they've slowed down. I don't trust blinkers when they can hit me.
NKato
This, exactly.
dashers
I was taught this when learning to drive, and promptly failed my test. I've gone a different direction and bought a car with an awful lot of torque, which helps cater for getting out of dodge rapidly.
DJWienerSoup
The only two close calls I've ever had were because of some idiot that had their turn signal on that didn't mean it. I always wait for them to get away from me now
JockoV
I'm so happy to see the backlash of comments here. TRUST NO ONE ON THE ROAD!
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I'd rather wait a minute to save hours on insurance, repair shops, or new car shopping.
turbovespa
this
RarestXenonAlso
SO TRUE! I work at a lake and people drink and drive often. Never assume; the number one spot where accidents occur here is at a stop sign that enters a road with a very high-speed limit. More often than not someone pulls out too early and they get T boned. So please do not risk it! Stay SAFE.
SirMarcsalot
Never trust a blinker.
WackyTicTacCasualty
Yup. Always assume that everyone else on the road is out to get you.
onecowboytoo
HubicPairs
For real. I’m in my 30s, and I’ve been working with the public my entire career. People can be absolute animals about some shit. Take your time, it’s worth the peace of mind imo.
bushmuncher
This is the way!!! Ive seen mofo leave their blinkers on for miles. Hell no, i make sure you turn before i make a move
JustDontCare
True, But as a pedestrian. I usually have time to cross in both scenarios. But if their blinker is off I assume they're going to speed up so I do not cross. Then they turn...
nefroye
Yep. Oftentimes it's just someone who forgot to turn their signal off after changing lanes or something like that - so never trust a signal.
What this means is that turn signals are basically useless - but only for the vehicle in front of you. The main purpose of turn signals is for any car *behind* you, to let them know you're slowing down.
tgeliot
Exactly
nefroye
P.S. to follow up - perhaps I was a bit hyperbolic there. From a *legal* standpoint they're generally useless; however it's still a good thing to do from a courtesy standpoint. Even though it's not a good idea to trust turn signals - some people do - and thus it's still a good courtesy to use yours, and that's a good thing. (However don't, under any circumstances, "change your mind" and go straight after using your signal. If you realize you're at the wrong road - turn anyway, and retrace)
RitzBitz25
This. I decided to wait for someone turning right, and they went straight. I would have been hit.
acuteavocado7
"you have to get lucky every time. we only have to get lucky once."
don't take the chance
rusrsdude
Got unlucky once, maybe?
Fuzzynubz
This
RichardPicture
I was guilty of this recently and the driver honked and yelled at me as I was turning. However, all the context clues that I was turning were there. I slowed down significantly, pulled to the right side of the lane to execute a turn, and then turned carefully. I think he would have trusted me if I had my blinker on, but I dont trust anyone until they are committed to an action fully. So F that guy.
pgdave
When I was a teen, I nearly got t-boned trusting someone was going to make the turn they had signaled. I'm really glad it happened, because I learned a valuable lesson without having to get hurt.
worhan666
Yeah, after some years of experience I also started doing that. However, asshole behind me that are clearly the better judge on when it's safe for me to turn will beep their horns.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Yeah. I made that mistake once. Luckily they were fast on the break.
A close-call is enough to learn that lesson.
Akurei00
I never assume to know what a driver plans to do. So I'll go when I think there's enough time/space that I can do so apparently. But if I see a signal, that means I should have a little more time. I still won't go if I don't think I could gun it to safely avoid getting hit if they turned out to not be turning, though.
Akurei00
*do so safely
yelesuo
This☝️
IAmTheBadW01f
Blinker and visibly slowing down is when I'll go.
I'll go without a blinker if they've slowed down enough that I'm convinced they're turning, but I'm a Masshole
Anonaru
If they speed up and clip you, it would be your fault. Be careful, people do this intentionally in my province (and I suspect they do in the US in some capacity as well)
IAmTheBadW01f
So it's a race then, bring it on
Anonaru
sharkiesharkie
Never believe the blink.
The blink is a lie.
AsidRayne1245
Yea I wait for people to get into their turn lane or start turning if there isn't a turn lane.. not taking any chances on idiots.
Snarkophilus
This. I was a passenger in a car where the driver trusted a turn signal in exactly this situation, and we got T-boned by a pickup going around 50 mph. It was less fun than you might imagine.
MasterMookie
I thought this was stupid until I spent 5 years in America. People are crazy in TN.
Anonaru
A 19 year-old in our neighborhood died just two weeks ago to something like ths- the driver trusted a turn signal and got rolled by the signaling vehicle :( -- I think "Assume everyone else on the road can't drive" is sage advice, trusting other drivers with their 3-ton weapons isn't good for your health
BooneDocs9
We got t boned in this exact situation
vystral
Yep I don’t trust anyone behind the wheel. More than once I’ve been in that situation where somebody has a signal on, I pull out, they continue straight and blast their horn at me.
Higure
If it would take them a full half minute to reach the intersection, you're in the clear, just go.
MrglBrglGrgl
Maybe they're driving onea them futurama slowmobiles
patforget
I agree with you. But if you get the blinker and you see the car slowing down... also if you can see if the person sees you...
thinkybrainpains
Guy stinting at a stop sign with turn signal on. No one coming. I wait a full minute then honk. He flips me off, rolls down the window and angrily waves me to GO AR9ND. So yea…people are absolutely idiots and in this case I don’t mean me.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Almost had someone front-end me just yesterday. I was turning left and they must not have seen me, because they turned right, almost head on into me.
Vertron
30 seconds is ample time to go
llortamai
Yep. While the post shows one side of the shitty driver coin, the other is the person that starts signaling half a mile before they turn, passing multiple intersections before they do.
moonweasel
Watch for the indicator, but believe the wheels
AndroidSoul
The first rule of the road is to never trust anyone else on the road. Bastards, the lot of em
noway10
Lololol “bastards, the lot of them!”
Zeterai
ToonamiT0M
MaximusUltima
Reminds me of that old idiom, “half the people who die in accidents had the right-of-way.” Never take legality as a guarantee of safety.
IHaveAGuyForEverything
This. I trust no one. Blinker does equal consent. Until I see that mofo slowing and actually turning, I assume they aren’t.
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iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
I had one yesterday morning, driving 10km below the speed limit, no headlights on and an interior light on.
EternallyIgnorant
doesnt*
funkystay
*intent
The701
So this was as I was waiting at a stop sign at a roomy intersection: The crossing street's curb was angled in toward the intersection, but not enough to make for an actual turning lane. They had their right turn signal on, the front of their car dipped a bit as they slowed, the front wheels started to turn, and THEN they swerved back to keep going straight. That was a close call.
L1ttl3J1m
If you're waiting 30 seconds for a car to go past your entrance to an intersection, you probably could have made it.
Anonaru
I'm blind in one eye, so I cannot perceive depth properly- I rather wait and not need to than risk anything. Other safe drivers probably do the same. With that said, I think it's worth acknowledging that, unless the road is extraordinarily flat and straight, one will not be able to see an approaching car for a full 30 seconds- that is an insane distance / time on a road. (At 30mph, for example, you're talking about a full quarter mile to work with, or >1300ft)
TheGammaRae
Fellow pirate! I too get unnecessarily honked at for not risking my life by pulling out in front of oncoming traffic. I pretty much avoid unprotected left hand turns because of it.
Anonaru
19216801
Is 30 aec that much of a burden for certainty? Will it alter your arrival time in any significant fashion?
JCBalance
You're vastly underestimating how long 30 seconds is. You've basically waited a full light cycle at a T intersection. If you need that long to make a turn, you're never turning, because any car within a quarter mile going 30mph is going to reset the timer.
kaarbaakimgr
Found the guy that freezes up at a 4-way intersection and then waves others through when it’s not their turn.
ThePastmaster
How can you forget that it's on? Or is the loudass click-clack not a universal feature?
BranDohCalrissian
At least once a week I find myself behind someone who is utterly unaware that their turn signal is on.
ChromaticAberrations
People play music so loudly in their cars you can hear it in your own car, with both your and their windows all up.
ThePastmaster
That'd do it.