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getyourfruitoffmeyoudamndirtygrapes
Honestly though, I never use the earbuds and I rarely if ever use the charger, once you get a wireless charger it's the best and it lasts
probablyobvious
I have never understood why people support things that are not in their best interest. Weather it be companies, or politics.
LittlePinkAnimal
I have never used the included headphones for any of my phones and I have way more chargers than I need a this point. But no headphone jack,
LittlePinkAnimal
no deal. And yes, I have 4 pairs of good wireless and true wireless headphones. I still want the damn jack as an option.
ThisIsMyUsernameThereAreManyLikeIt
In fairness, so long as the chargers are just standard usb cables, I got no problem with this
gimmeadollar
Raise the price and give you less value. The American Way.
InTheBeginningWasTheNerd
I'll be honest, I haven't used the earphones that came with any of my phones, so...
Lastmohican7
Next iPhone comes without a phone, they assumed you kept the old one
JollyJokzr
Wasn't Apple's problem that the new phone only had fast charging with a new Apple charger so you couldn't use your old one?
etherbunny41
They're companies. the only loyalty they have is to the money in your wallet.
seenunseen
Samsung uses a universal charger..i haven't had my original for years..the grocery store sells all types cheap..
Arcygenical
S20 (and likely 21) has a different requirement for fast charging, I believe. Still NBD, fast charging is awful for battery anyways.
tpanyS
The majority of common USB3 cables are capable of it, it's the end providing source that needs to be fast-charge supportive usually (1/?)
tpanyS
which is really nothing more than a slightly higher amp output. Specifically anything 1.5 up to currently 5 I believe. (2/2)
Arcygenical
Quick and fast charging negotiates a higher voltage as well, 6v for G1, and 9v for G2. That's all I know, as QC2.0 is the most I have.
mynamespaul
I recently scanned the market and found myself buying Apple because it was by far most cost effective for my needs. Samsung done fucked up
STGxDante
Isn't it because of tech waste laws or some bs? They'll give you one at request.
TheBrickumentarian
And they're getting rid of the Micro SD card.
Username383
The thing is: galaxy usb cables are around everywhere. The apple ones are way rarer
thorlMoonCreator
Only if you dont buy apple products. In our household they are everywhere
SmokyDoggg
Called it months ago. FYI there are already rumors that the next iPhone may not have a charging port (Magsafe only) so, just so you know lol
Level13
Tbf, samsung haven't switched the charging port since like '05
thorlMoonCreator
Apple changed theirs in 2011
AnythingMuchShorter
Not saying it's ok, but at least they don't use some proprietary shit so you can get a charger that works for $4.
Jbelkin
Guess you don’t mind if the double wide catches fire?
AnythingMuchShorter
Have they actually got you believing that to be safe to use a 5V wall adapter has to cost $19?
Arcygenical
USBPD is a cool spec and one I don't want negotiated w/ a 4$ charger. https://www.androidauthority.com/fast-charging-explained-889780/
AnythingMuchShorter
I don't care about the no headphones, I've never used the headphones that came with any of my phones.
Anfalicious
I just got my first non Apple smartphone. Headphone jack! Oh how I missed thee!
tuxedobob
I mean, that’s what I did with my iPhone...
drkduckla360
Okay for clarification, does not come with wall adapter, still includes cable so you can charge from a pc but it is a USB c one.
Ifixtrains
Pretty sure it's also a move to promote wireless charging and reduce waste.
frozensoul94
Anyone else have like 5 usb-c chargers in their house and doesn't care?
Kingaby
TO BE FAIR Samsung don't regularly change the charging port so backwards compatibility makes this far less deplorable.
FisterMantastic
yOuR cHaRgEr IsNt ThE rIgHt OnE aNd We CaN tElL sO nOw We ChArGe SlOwEr BeCaUsE pRoPiEtArY bUlLsHiT
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
Then you realize the old brick you have doesn't support the fast charging feature that your new phone has & paid for.
Wor3q
PD bricks are around for some time, and most phones support it. One charger for everything at last!
TheBrickumentarian
TOOO BEEEE FAAAIIIIRRRRR
UnnecessaryCensorship
To be Faaiiirrrrrrrrrrr
hellG89
iPhone has been using the same lightning cable port for nearly 10 years?
Kingaby
Yeah but when did they last include a free high speed charger?
Wor3q
They just changed the other end of the included cable though.
asmallcat
To USB-C. So like, it works with literally any USB-C charger.
Wor3q
Which is not included, and incompatible with any previous apple chargers. That's the whole point.
asmallcat
They are trivially inexpensive and almost everyone has random other chargers. Also, you can use your old charging cable and old charger.
KidParma
Someone who has only bought Apple phones the last few years has no usb c chargers. That's the point
ContinuallySenseless
So buy one. They cost 5-10€, should be something similar in dollarydoos. Not a big deal with a phone that is 700+
asmallcat
But then you can just use your old charger and cable. So what's the problem again?
NotAnAccordion
More upset about the lack of micro SD card expansion
HelpfulCorn
That's getting harder to find. Dealbreaker on the Pixel. Got an LG Velvet recently, had the Moto z2 before that
NotAnAccordion
Yeah I know it's rare, it's just been Samsung's thing in the past
ameranthe
I kind of get it. Why sell a box with a charger in it if someone already has one from the last model? Or cheap headphones no one wants?
ameranthe
But yeah, they also need a package that doesn't cost extra that includes both those things, in case someone wants/needs them.
HairyChairstepper
I want the headphones. The Samsung buds were good quality AKG ones.
chrispydtankPS4
If you wanna sell phone, it's good to provide charger with it maybe
Tig3r4ce
They first will mock apple, and then follow it on their next phone, and not just samsung. They did the same with the headphone jack.
Wikipedo
And Apple mocked Samsung for big screens and now sell big screens. They all copy each other (and Apple copied Braun designs)
paulus1978
I won't be upgrading from my Note 20 Ultra unless the new one has MicroSD. Samsung gave me wireless earbuds so that's thankfully a non-issue
Pikka
Lack of headphone jack was a Nokia 6500 Classic "feature" many years before any iPhone.
wolveten12
I'm pissed about the headphone jack and loss of removable storage.
ChiefSokka
Stop getting the S series then, I got an A50 $600 cheaper than the s20 and has a headphone jack and Microsd slot.
fake40nedeso
As a Mobile QA guy: The differences for consumers are pretty slim, obviously. Like car manufacturing. And all make idiotic decisions 1/2
fake40nedeso
while calling them 'user centric', my arse they are! But it works and most are quite happy.
Arcygenical
I was pissed about the headphone jack as well, but I just got a very nice USB-C DAC in and it's so, so much better than the S10 DAC.
Arcygenical
Cost me like 30$. It's not ideal but it drives every sound system in my house (even the big rackmount one I have) just 100x better.
CyberAkuma
But you could still have that USB-DAC as an option if you wanted if they had headphone jacks anyway, not like they are mutually exclusive.
Arcygenical
True, I'm just saying it was the best phone upgrade I've ever purchased, and I think it was a very worthy use of <30$
CyberAkuma
It's why I currently have an LG phone, MicroSD is a total non-negotiable for me.
darkninja2992
Wait, samsung took away external storage? I just got an s20 fe. I was a little pissed about the liss of the headphone jack but it still >
darkninja2992
KaspersPrincess
Don't forget about the battery either. In old phones you could just pop it out and put a new one in once it started losing charge
BamboozleInsurance
I like having a water resistant phone though
KaspersPrincess
I have my old samsung galaxy s2 that has a jack, you can pop off the back and change the battery and I can still use it in the shower
darkninja2992
Yeah, that still pisses me off. My first samsung was a galaxy express. It was accessible enough to replace a charge port in 15-20 min. Now>
darkninja2992
KaspersPrincess
Exactly! And it makes any repair way more expensive since you can't do the small things yourself anymore
Arcygenical
Thank god the bixby button is still there. /s
hirosjimma
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.bxactions to remap it to WHATEVER you want
Arcygenical
I remapped it to off, already lol. I don't need physical buttons on my phone, except for volume.
CyberAkuma
So you don't want a physical power button?
Arcygenical
I figured that was self explanatory. Hard to have a UI button on a powered down device, aha.
truthsmiles
As a 'trapped' iPhone user, I'm still angry about the stupid headphone jack. I can't charge my phone while using the earbuds. So dumb.
FiveShiftOne
A good bluetooth headset is not exactly expensive. Very much worth the investment if you listen a lot.
truthsmiles
Yeah I’m probably going to have to break down and get a set. My son has a set and loves them.
FiveShiftOne
I have the Samsung U Flex, which is a little expensive but comfortable and has a good, functioning mic. And big enough you won't lose it.
Pikka
Come on, you can just use a giant unwieldy, nasty looking dongle-splitty thing!
DrFunkinstein
I mean I’ve had my iPhone 11 for half a year and so far that has not been a problem once. I charge at night never have to during the day.
truthsmiles
This is a screenshot from a random recent “Recent Calls” entry... I’m on the phone a LOT haha
DrFunkinstein
Damn. That is a valid issue then lol. I have made maybe 30 calls with this phone and they were almost all for cabs.
truthsmiles
I think my record is 13 hours? Haha. I suppose I should consider myself lucky that someone would want to talk to me that long ;)
cowboymanjoe
Wait they're up to that many galaxies?
jungleofthesenses
FeChefImgur
Yeah, I was confused too (until I read one of the other replies to your question - its the year)
Lurker4815162342
I think they are still in only one galaxy. Rest is marketing.
shano510
They jumped from 10 right to 20
MaxIn
Apple skipped 9 so they could use X
ATerribleArtist
They, like Apple, Call of Duty, and others discovered that people start expecting more "wow" when you go up 1 # at a time.
punitivepeak13
Oh man, almost made me realize how long it has been since i stopped caring about samsung and apple.
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
They decided to rename it based on the year the product was released. Starting with year of the pandemic, 2020 = Galaxy S20
DonaldFuck
It was weird, I went from Galaxy s7 to Galaxy s20. Knew I had the phone a long time, but not that long.
Vonmonj
Yea they went from 10 to 20
vengul
Numbers don't work the normal way in technology these days. They hit 10 and skipped to 20. Like when windows went from 8.1 to 10
neverborne
They made a 9, they just didn't release it
drenix
I was surprised when I missed like 10
Toiletseatpolio
Like Covid-19
ForceAwakenWasLame
So, Samsung = disease. Got it.
Nandabun
Glad I went with Blu. Love my G90 Pro.
DrSleepyPhZzz
More like Covid-21
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
They always make fun of what Apple does but then copy Apple's business strategy the following year.
danielsjennifer3211
And the world becomes a little worse of a place
SkiFreeCK
Ironic, because Apple was always copying Samsung's tech idea, and marketing it as their own
zaqx
Like what?
paulus1978
"haha Samsung, why you make such a huge phone like Note? Nobody wants big phone screens like Phablet sized!" (releases iphone 6+) "NEW IDEA"
jharasym
Apple were the last large company to make a large phone because Jobs had to die before they would do it. (literally)
jharasym
He was famous for saying a phone shouldn't be larger than 5", which is why they had iPad Mini.
soyouwanttobeapirate
tbh, I think it's ok - I've got oodles of chargers and headphones - the working life of those is longer than that of the devices anyway...
NaughtButOne
It'd be fine if the price came down, but it won't. I have never in my life used the charger or headphones that come in the box.
aFadingMemory
The headphones that came with my S8 were pretty great for freebees. I kept them in my glovebox for when I forgot my good ones.
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
to be fair, it's the S series. pen support is new anyways. now, if the note drops this year without anything in the box Samsung can eat a d.
poets
The chargers and headphones aren't a problem. I want a headphone socket, though.
IntergalacticNoodles
and vice versa.
kukaz00
Well at the time they did sell it that way. Apple discontinued chargers for all phones in manufacturing, Samsung just got rid of them for 21
CyberAkuma
A big reason I don't buy Samsung phones, they are like the iPhones of Android phones, latest one has no MicroSD and no headphone jack.
aFadingMemory
My Pixel doesn't have a headphone jack but I bought a dozen USB to 3.5 converters on Amazon for ~$20 and scattered them around.
litelbrown
My pixel does have a headphone jack. But I can't remember the last time I used it
aFadingMemory
I don't miss it as much as I thought I would, but it is less convenient for sure.
Wikipedo
Remember Apple mocking big screen phones by showing iPhones could be used with one hand? Then they made big ones
Evangeli
It's weird because Apple follows other companies in terms of technology & features, but other companies follow Apple's marketing strategies.
Evangeli
It's an odd mutually-cyclical, almost parasitic relationship.
unkiereamus
Unpopular opinion: I hate them, but Apple consistently leads the pack. They deleted the floppy drive, huge outcry, 3 years later no one(1/?)
unkiereamus
had one. They went to USB, 4 years later, no one had PS/2. They deleted the headphone jack, 3 years later (almost) no one had one. (2/2)
nitroghost
I'm still salty by the removal of the headphone jack from phones. I can't use my preferred headphones without investing in an 1/
nitroghost
an adapter thah would be easily lost because they're so small 2/2
aFadingMemory
They're really cheap though. I bought a bag of 12 of them for about $20
unkiereamus
I understand, although I wound up using BT with the Bose QuiteComfort 35s, and they're better than anything I had before.
DrKonrad
"We sell both at no extra cost" wtf's that supposed to mean
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
This was an old ad mocking Apple. You need a 3.5mm jack, buy a dongle. You need a charging brick, sorry it's sold separately.
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
Note 20 has a 3.5mm headphone jack and the box have a charging brick included. Hence the line they don't sell them separately..
ameranthe
Probably if you want them, they'll just give them to you. Rather than give you more stuff for the junk drawer or something.
DrKonrad
The they don't "sell" it to you
ameranthe
I honestly have no idea. That was my best guess. For all I know they chuck em at your head as you try to hide under a table.
TheRealFireFrenzy
Either this or "the priveledge of being allowed to buy them costs 0 money"
PonyMadness
Their marketers make fun while their investors see how much Apple makes by selling things separately and tells them to copy them.
Gaboom
that's nintendo business plan! buy a wii for 200$ and after that pay 800$ for all the accessories!
danielsjennifer3211
New samsung x30 screen sold separate
ThisIsYourLifeNow
The new samsung x30 buttons. Get them while on stock. New! with even more plastic! Comes in 3 flavors. shit, shittier and slightly bearable
thelaaaaaw
also, everything is now controlled through Bixby
WeekendWarriorMark
I have like 8 usb chargers in my house. Not including one is indeed a good thing for environmental reasons. Pricing on the other hand...
Warune
And when they change the plugs so your old chargers dont work?
WeekendWarriorMark
iPhone 12 still uses lightning (maybe for wired accessories?) so if you have a old wired charger you can use the old cable. QI also works.
WeekendWarriorMark
If you also have an ipad or a SO w/ android you also have at least one usb-c charger.
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
For the asking price, they should give a charging brick free if customer requests for one. Give a discount for those that prefer not to.
KaraokeLemur
They're not going to want any less profits, so they'd also bump the price up and hope people won't bother/remember to ask for the discount.
AlfonsetheChinchilla
For the price of the phone I'm all for this. The hardware in that thing is incredible
greenking13
$800 for the phone, just to not include a charger? Seriously?
ElbowDeepInAPig
I mean the s20 last year started at $999
Arcygenical
I'm just happy it's going to push the price of the S20, or be launched at, less than the cost for an S20, last week. I need a new phone.
AlfonsetheChinchilla
No offense man but I don't thing you really know tech. The flagship phone is almost 200$ or 100£ cheaper than the S20. The are also giving
AlfonsetheChinchilla
pre-order buyers a 200$ credit which more than makes up for the loss of a 25w charger and stupid AKG headphones. These people arentidiots.
greenking13
I understand that it's technically cheaper than its' predecessor, but the fact remains that the phone is priced far far above the parts 1/?
greenking13
cost. And yes, I'm aware that that's how manufacturing works, you mark the finished product above the sum of it's parts, but in the case 2/?
AlfonsetheChinchilla
Flagship means these Ultra line. 1400 vs 1200
LaunchpadMc
I don’t mind this, less trash for the land fills
JeanLucPicard
I kind of agree actually. Enough people use QI chargers now that charging cables are almost becoming obsolete.
nerdyvet
In this instance I disagree. The phone needs to be charged. By making people buy the charger separately, it's an ADDITIONAL package--
nerdyvet
I suppose the counter would be that if the new Samsung is truly compatible with all chargers, the old ones can be reused. If this is--
nerdyvet
The idea, then yah I'm for that. But I doubt that's the thinking here, and I'm sure ThisCharger is "better" 9_9
JustSomePersonThere
Is that... an eye roll emoticon? STOLE’t.
nerdyvet
lol yes. I'm amazed how many people have remarked on it too xD Not on imgur per se, just in general. Maybe it's a 90s-kid ingenuity :P
MeekrabJones
Even if the charger is of similar quality, I have yet to meet a person that would say no to an additional charger in perfect working 1/
MeekrabJones
Order. Everyone could use a backup, whether it be kept in their car or stored in the closet until their primary charger one breaks.
always1haveparis
USB-C hasn't been out for long snd my flat is full of them. I don't want more
wolas
To be honest how many chargers do you have? Do you need 1 more?
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PirateRubberDuck
Fast charging keeps improving over the 2 years between my phone upgrades. Also I use my old ones too
Khatvogel
I dont need more chargers I need more cables
whatbuttondoipush
I have 3 and use all 3
mcmachack
Yes, because I never have enough chargers, don't fucking judge me
dumpdagrump45
Great way to destroy your battery. That's why they don't recommend third party chargers. They often damage your devices battery
Mithi
The old charger is sold (or donated) with the old phone.
BamboozleInsurance
People sell their old phones? I have a old phone drawer.
drenix
I still have my 3 previous phones, most retired mainly due to the battery dying.
IamLewAshby
Yes, I for one prefer money over storing garbage
BamboozleInsurance
I like having old phones I can root and use for other projects.
Dasnekones
I use and abuse my charger and Samsung chargers are not quality goods. Keeping it longer is a fire hazard.
Whiskers7
I've got the oppo find x2 pro. Went from vooc, to supervooc, to supervooc 2.0, and every iteration is so much faster charging.
paulus1978
I use the old 2A charger overnight from my Note 9, it's kinder to the battery than the new 3A superfast charger my Note 20 Ultra came with
ihateimgurffs
Yes if the old one was lower power and they are selling a new phone that allows faster charging.
japh
Never understood this. Why do people charge their phones faster? Just burns out the battery faster.
ihateimgurffs
Then you replace the battery. And having my phone charge up in a hour and then last 1 week is really liberating.
akshually
Of course Samsung does this. They see how it works for Apple and if the blowback is minimal, Samsung copies.
TeaSippingLurker
To be fair, most wall sockets and extension leads now come with options of having a USB power... No USB plug anymore. This is the way...
Icecoldfunk
Is it still usb-c? Because I have like 10 of them around the house, whereas the apple plug is proprietary, isn't it?
asmallcat
No, any standard USB charger will work. The lightning end is different, but the phone comes with that.
asmallcat
Because they are RIGHT. Most people buying a phone already have one, and therefore have a charger! It IS wasteful.
scJazz
Exactly I have like 5 chargers right now and just 2 usb cables that work.
MrNom
It goes all ways in the tech industry, Like the Chinese brands and their massive batteries.
GeeeButtersnaps
Atleast samsung dropped the price though
Sauroctonus
And let Apple take all the flak... I can see where they're coming from.
HonestCommentFarmer
Samsung, unfortunately, does not have a captive ecosystem. It's incredibly easy for someone to switch to a different Android phone.
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YourgoodoldfriendLuci
Unfortunately they are going in this direction. Still running android 10 on my 7t pro. Dont know what to get next in case of an accident ?
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
Honestly, I kinda prefer LG. It looks way better than anything samsung flings out.
SpecialProjectY
I would love to have easy access to Motorola, their Moto Mods were very innovative and very overlooked.
illtrytocomeupwithsomethingwittylater
Do the petty moves of big companies still upset you? The are not known for their scruples.
viva93
what sucks is how much this works period. Tesla does Apple like practices like selling a car with a feature but charging you to activate it
greenmenfrommars
Sounds more like EA than Apple.
DanFlorentONE
Damn, selling car DLCs
LaronX
Well it's US style consumerism.
viva93
just consumerism period, what apple does isn't new or exclusive to them. capitalism historically had aspects like this.
LaronX
Not quite. There is a distinct difference. The US consumerism is crazy about things seeming like they are easier to do or use. Marketing 1/2
LaronX
There often focuses on simplicity or making a task easier. Extra features are second to that. 2/2
viva93
its in the car already but you pay again to unlock it. it works and other car makers are doing it now too like German marques
MacThunderfart
What? Which german car manufacturers do this?
Kashija
Audi is investigating this iirc. Basically build fully featured cars and you can unlock it like DLC.
khele
Wonder when car features will be unlocked through loot boxes :P
Snabelsatan
Wonder if that would increase resale value. But what features would that include? Cars are registered with details, you cant just unlock hps
Toderdj
Gotta be a way to hack it, no?
Pikka
That's triple A game industry practices there.
SecondSince
Jailbreaking cars is gonna be a booming business!