It hurts

Apr 24, 2024 5:46 AM

fatman1683

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Screaming into the void with this one, feel free to ignore.

My wife and I were a match made in hell. We'd both been previously married and figured we knew what we were doing the second time around.

She was a CSA survivor and had a really screwed up relationship with sex and intimacy, abandonment issues, history of abusive partners, severe depression and mood disorders. I am mildly autistic, have a history of being bullied and emotionally abused, have a strong caretaker drive and zero self-esteem.

She asked me to promise her that I wouldn't let her run away, because she had a pattern of abandoning people before they can abandon her. She spent our entire marriage telling me she wanted a divorce every time we argued.

She said at the beginning that she was poly but that she was willing to be monogamous to be with me, because she loved me and would never want to hurt me that way. That promise lasted about three months.

She cheated on me off and on throughout our 8-year relationship, every time I'd catch her she would claim her mental illness was pushing her to make bad choices and I would be the good devoted husband and stay with her to try and fix things.

I got her into therapy, we did couples therapy, got her on meds, even tried bringing other women into our relationship (she's bi), but none of it stopped her from cheating or threatening to leave.

Finally about a year ago, we were arguing and she grabbed me, I pushed her away, she called the cops and I got arrested. She filed for divorce that night while I was in jail. We were no-contact for 3 months due to an automatic TRO, but she found ways to get messages to me and when the TRO ended, I moved back home and we started living together as a couple again. She still wanted to leave, but we would sign a post-nup so that we could stay married and she would have health insurance.

She moved out in January, and in that time we've had an unusual relationship. Our sex life came and went depending on her mood, but I wanted us to stay married on paper as long as possible so she could get healthcare, otherwise she would have to go to the exchange.

Tonight, we met for me to give her some stuff from the house, and she told me she's filing to finalize our divorce and she no longer wants to interact with me. She's going to start dating someone, and she doesn't want me in her life at all anymore.

I know this is a necessary step, but it still hurts. It feels like I'm being replaced now that she has someone else, and since I don't have any friends of my own I'm now completely alone. On top of which, she still doesn't have a good option for health insurance, but she's willing to give that up in order to have me out of her life.

I feel like I've failed, because she's going to suffer from something that I could easily fix. I feel like I must be a horrible person if she's willing to sacrifice her health to be rid of me. I feel worthless because as soon as she found someone else she liked she was ready to be done with me.

I don't really want to post this, but my therapist tells me it's important to verbalize what I'm feeling. I'm too good at suppressing my emotions and never actually processing them, so I guess this is just me exposing myself in a way that I can't ignore. I won't see my therapist until next Monday and by then I'll definitely have suppressed all of this.

So, as I said, feel free to ignore. I just needed to put this somewhere.

This is what people call closure.
Sur it's hell. Sure it hurts. But it's also a phase you go through.
Once more for the people in the back.
IT'S A PHASE YOU GO THROUGH.
This means it will end and you will be better for it.
Just hang in there for a little while. It will get better. Waaaay better.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

" I moved back home and we started living together as a couple again" mate. you're gonna end up in prison. File a restraining order and run away

2 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

You aren't alone my friend, you are free. Use that care-taker drive on someone that deserves it. Yourself. Much luck to you.

2 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

And if you feel like it is hard to apply it to yourself, find an animal to save and take care for. What about a dog?
OP, you deserve a healthy live with a lot of happiness :) and stimming or.playing with a dog or cat can be so healing :)

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Being alone is pleasurable compared to the noise and drama brought by whatever toxic personality is living with you at the time.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Take 3 years to recover...take those 3 years to work on your self.. don't date, don't get into a relationship, workout, try to stay active and get out do stuff, learn to dance, ride a motorcycle, do art, go sing karaoke, stay away from drugs and try read books to help you stay sane.. yes it sucks but the feeling will pass .. cherish the relationship with true friends and family

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

All of this

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

“She’s going to suffer from something I could easily fix”. I’m sorry you’re hurting but this is not something for you to fix. Sounds like she set you up from the start to not let her leave. She did every shitty thing she could think of and got you to beg her to stay. This isn’t healthy. You know it’s not healthy. Her pain and suffering is not for you to fix if she doesn’t want it fixed. I hope you find peace.

2 years ago | Likes 289 Dislikes 1

It's damn hard to change yourself. It's completely impossible to change someone else. It's one thing to support someone while they put effort into making change, and weathering the ups and downs that come with that - but it's another thing entirely to simply enable their poor behaviour indefinitely ESPECIALLY when you bear the brunt of it. I hope OP can get some clarity and put themselves first.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

100% this.

2 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

Cut off her health benefits.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

"I feel like I've failed, because she's going to suffer from something that I could easily fix." Her issues cannot be fixed by you in any way. She must choose to want to be better. And you must make that choice as well.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Jesus! Screw that, you're better off alone, never go back. Get that divorce too. Also you haven't failed, she failed you within the first 3months.

2 years ago | Likes 238 Dislikes 3

I second this. You are a victim, not an abuser. The fault always lies with the abuser. No. Matter. What.

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

Oh yea definitely

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

you're finally free.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You need to think about you and why you are continuing to be used and abused ! Cut all ties work on yourself .

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Dude, she used you as a punching bag your whole relationship. You don't deserve to be treated like that. You are a human being that deserve better! She is a scumbag that dont want a healthy relationship. Be glad that she finally left and go nc to her.

2 years ago | Likes 615 Dislikes 5

FUCK. THAT. BITCH!!!

2 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

So you're saying they should get back together?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah I mean she has zero inpulse control left and unless you're a brain doctor you can't fix that. It is somewhat true it is her mental illness but that's no excuse. Don't feel bad that the health system you helped pay for is kinda scammy not geared toward fixing anything, just collecting money. That's not your fault.

2 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 0

Her mental health is not an excuse to abuse you.

2 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

… god damn! This guy gets it.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Focus all of your caretaker energy on YOURSELF for a while, then after some time, you will begin to see the light and realise this was the best thing that could've happened.
Good luck.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You're obviously right, but it's hard for caretakers to just focus on themselves. People need to feel loved, but if you can't love yourself, you do whatever you can for another person in the hopes they can give you the love and validation you crave. That's sadly why so many end up with people who will abuse them, a healthy person rightfully pushes abusers away, a caretaker is dependent on feeling needed and valuable to someone, often being taught from early childhood that love is conditional. ->

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shitty parents will condition you to think that this is what love feels like, transactional, and the smallest imagined failure on your part means you don't deserve being treated well by yourself or others. You just keep trying your hardest, wearing yourself out, while abusers will find every excuse possible to justify hurting you. Eventually they leave, and you're hollowed out, too weak and in your mind undeserving to care of yourself. It's brutally difficult to break out of this cycle/mindset.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If people tell or show you long enough that you're a failure and undeserving of basic kindness and decency, you will eventually believe it, and you will adapt the ways they speak to you into how you speak to yourself. "You're stupid, you're a failure, you don't deserve good things". I'm glad OP is in therapy, but it will take years and years to learn to love yourself, no doubt. It's so important to have people in your life who show you kindness, and they said they're all alone. Breaks my heart.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your better of without that abusive POS

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

what's her onlyfans channel called. I'll log in and give her a scathing critique.

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 4

You're bringing this type of energy and I'm here for it.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

what film is this?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Silicone Valley, HBO TV show

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Try joining a social club a hiking group or get a dog (for life). All immensely more rewarding that being the punching bag of a crap person.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

She's BPD, probably lied about anything that happened in her past & gaslit the crap out of you to make you feel guilt for how she treats you

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

This video is a great wrap-up on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W50-F65tbBE and I can almost guarantee that everything in this video will sound incredibly familiar to you.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Get out ASAP, end things FOREVER, change your address, change your number, change your email, and forget her.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Let me be perfectly clear, @op: YOU could not fix her no matter what, she doesn't want to be fixed.

Time to do things for YOU and only you! As a neurodivergent (very single) adult female: you got this! It's not too bad, the freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want is fucking amazing! 😁

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Dude, my wife had borderline personality, and I never realized how miserable and broken and messed up I was until she left me. it took me years to see how badly distorted my self-esteem had gotten. I remember telling my friends that she left me, and she was out of my life and I wasn't going to take her back. And yet, four years later, she asked to come back to me, I was lamenting to my friends how much I feared going back to that life.They reminded me that I had told them I wouldn't. p1…

2 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

It was weird. The prospect of saying "no" when she asked to come back never occurred to me, and my friends had to remind me of what I said. I said no, and I could tell she was surprised, but never argued it. I'm married again and my life isn't perfect, but it's not toxic like it was with her. i'm still shocked at what I accepted as normal. My point is, her leaving is good. You have healing to do, but a good future ahead of you. Promise you won't go back, however bad your self esteem is damaged.

2 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

I know your experience isn't mine. But if my message to you could be anything, it would be to stand up for yourself. Believe in yourself. Rebuild your life. Never go back to that kind of missery, through her or anyone similar. It will take time, but it can be so, so worth it. Peace, and know that more people are rooting for you than you can imagine.

2 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Commenting here because it’s the right place to, but I hope OP sees it. So many of us have been victims of a BPD partner. And we’re all reading your post and going, “Yep… Yep… YEP!” to everything you’re saying, OP. When you come out on the other end of this the relief will be palpable. As for this new person, you need to understand that OF COURSE you were thrown away for them. They’re unaware of all the damage she brings with her and you’re not. They’re just a fresh canvas for her.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I feel all of this. It’s terrible this has happened to so many people.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Listen to me: I have tried to save everyone I have ever loved, and out of everyone I have tried to save, I only succeeded twice. Sometimes when people need help, they don't want it, and even when they want help, sometimes they only want it from a handful of people, and you aren't always one of them. If someone doesn't want help from you, there isn't anything you can do. You didn't fail, she did. She wasn't willing to let you help. That is her fault, not yours.

2 years ago | Likes 156 Dislikes 2

^This. You put in a good effort (more than most would say was ever necessary) and she still stabbed you in the back and refused your help and kindness. Better alone then with someone like this, but there's still plenty of decent people in the world, so your loneliness doesn't have to be forever (though it's probably a good idea to cool off from any relationships for a bit and get your head straightened out, cause this kind of toxicity leaves scars and takes time to figure out).

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Right now, the best thing to do is tend to yourself. You had plenty of baggage from the first relationship, and it sounds like you're still dealing with it. Adding on this one, and the best thing you can do is figure out what's going on in your head, and whether you want it to stay that way.

2 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

That wasn't a relationship. You were the nanny of an irresponsible (and probably BPD) child. That child knew there were ZERO boundaries, and you allowed that to be true, resulting in abuse for you and zero consequences for the child.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

good for you!

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Rule number 1. People can't fix other people. They can guide and support, but people fix themselves.
Rule number 2. If you find yourself thinking you can fix someone, see rule number 1.

2 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

You left out rule 3. The person accepting the guidance and support has to want to change, AND demonstrate the ability to change and 4. Their actions are their responsibility alone. Never ever yours.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Rule number 3. When reading a one sided account on social media you shouldn't take sides nor pass judgement.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

This is an anonymous social media site. Story could be real or fake (though I'm leaning towards being more real than fake). So youre saying we should ignore this person who is seemingly pouring their heart out because we don't (and won't ever) know both sides? Thats a bit cold, don't you think? OP is making a bid for connection to a community he feels he belongs to, I see no reason to abstain from supporting him because we don't have both sides of a story and never will.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Well at the very least he used healthcare insurance to try and keep her, so in his own words we know he has used unhealthy manipulation techniques in a relationship with someone he claims to love. So we either don't take sides, or at least point out that he is not in the right here. So no, I don't think it's a bit cold to not support someone who clearly isn't innocent.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The ex cheated multiple times, was emotionally abusive, and strung him along by making him promise not to let her push him away. I'd say he was the one being manipulated so she could keep health insurance until she found another person to leave him for.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He also got out in prison for 'pushing' her. Yes, he's being manipulated, and not you. I've known a lot of abusive people, and they all love to play the victim. It's the same egotistical need that makes them be controlling and violent.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As someone who has been there before: you can do better, you deserve better.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

By all means, you should count this as a win but I know how bad it can feel when you love with all your heart, and watch it shatter and there is nothing you can do to stop it..
There is nothing any internet stranger can say that will help... many have been there, and all handle it in their own way.. The feelings take forever to fade. Many things you once found enjoyable may not capture your interest anymore, or you may just feel like "Whats the use." 1/2

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It may not seem like it will ever get better, but it will.
Days will turn to weeks, and then to months. Things will start to feel normal and good again, hobbies may come back again, and you may even find new ones to think about doing. Pain fades, not entirely, but it fades..
You didn't lose a life not worth living, my friend. You gained your freedom! 2/2

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0