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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/proud-boys-traverse-city-republican-gun-b1791310.html
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/proud-boys-traverse-city-republican-gun-b1791310.html
DarkSock
Weak ass MAGAt.
stillnotawake
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
The dumbest timeline.
FinnAndJakesTreeHouse
I wish he would have held up the gun to show how we would have dealt with Proud Boys violence against minorities. However, he’s racist too.
dwude
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Me show rifle. Me am 2A yes
DVSBSTrD
I've been saying this for DECADES!
mrsdowneyjr
"should we be worried that you're part of a group of terrorists?" "Here's my gun" "holy hell!" "Why are you scared? Are you broken?"
mrsdowneyjr
Fuck that guy
GoldenSama
It's really scary and sad to see that Republicans have fully embraced terrorism as their main political philosophy.
TheLastBeerBender
'Jusht like a GOP to bring a rifle to a zhoom pahrty.' (Sean Connery voice).
VaultGirl69
They want clemency for what they're done while continuing to endorse it. Fuck 'em. If you're sorry, act like it. Like adults.
sticksosteel
Maybe I’m an optimist: but I’m pretty sure this guy is just fucking stupid.
BeKindToAll
“Republican official” sounds misleading. I read he was a municipal councillor. Might (likely) be a republican in spirit, but yeah...
ThisGuyFawkes
This is where I’m happy to be Canadian. We had a conservative MP (Rep) recently kicked out of the Conservative party for taking a small 1/?
ThisGuyFawkes
Donation from a white supremacist. Our Governor General (the queens proxy in Canada) also stepped down for suspected bullying. Vastly 2/3
ThisGuyFawkes
Different approach to public accountability and norms. 3/3
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Ya, that works when you have accountability for all parties in government. In america if you are liberal, its be perfect or get trashed. 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
If you're conservative, you can be a nazi, pedophile, dead, or incite twrror attacks and still get a pass. 2/2
Problemwoodchuck
Y'all Qaeda strikes again
NikoTT
Yee hawd!
FlyingMonkeyPoo
Nah, it was antifa
lividlazan
Keru
fucking yeehawdis
bigrubberjohnny
Holler Akbar
TheBobLoblaw
Article said Michigan, that’s Yank Qaeda
JayEnfield
Talibanjo
ISleepAndIKnitThings
Yay, my hometown is in the news! Oh....
BlackWingPhoenix
“If you’re scared of a gun in any context I worry about your mental health” - This guy. Top 10 dumb things I’ve heard today
flarflarf
"Thats a nice gun, but it doesn't really answer my question, Mister Commissioner."
SOSDD01
Whatever happened to keeping a low profile?
tegfdd77
Weak egos can’t take being ignored
StarscreamAndHutch
Never go full republican.
LeftistCoastalElite
Never go full Democrat either. Gotta stay in between.
TheUnstoppableWampas
That's no longer true. It was 10 or so years ago, but now the GOP has gone so far right, being fully democrat puts you in the middle.
ChainmailleAddict
in-between center-right and radical right? No thanks
SnowMongoose
Gutpilegutezeit
Fucking insanity. And in my experience when confronted by themselves, with no firearm, they're as fragile as wet tissue.
BioGoji1989
We should take a cue from George Carlin and just put all of the problem people in one boxed-in state and watch them for entertainment.
klean9
We have a lot of gun toting, bible thumping, misogynistic, self centered, ethnocentric, homophobic, racist, republicans in northern Michigan
normilepreston01
Tautology
thefinpope
No need to repeat yourself.
FlyingButtPliers
Just this summer another commissioner used the n word in a meeting. When confronted he doubled down and did it some more.
PoliticalWanderer
Does this count as a threat of violence in service of ideological goals?
CerisCinderwolf
Very much so.
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braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Nice "bOtH SiDeS" attempt shitsucker.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
First, nazis and proud boys are the same thing. Second, no. It doesn't unless you still somehow "think" beyond all proven evidence that 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
1. Antifa exists as some monolithic organization with next to any planning beyond small groups. 2. That BLM is the same thing i just said2/2
SyrupAndSpaghetti
Also, antifa means anti-fascist. Americans who fought in ww2 were antifa. So I'm not really sure what has all happened here in America.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Well you see. America largely supported the war because of a very charismatic and well liked president. Not because they didn't like nazis.
aFadingMemory
Fun fact, Domestic Terrorism is the one thing the FBI can investigate you for but not charge you for, because there is no law against it 1/2
aFadingMemory
There are other crimes in connection with it they may get you for, but even though it is defined, and bad, we have nothing on the books.
greentights
How did we manage to not include that? We have definitions for traitors
aFadingMemory
There's a lot of talk about fixing that now, will be interesting to see the logic pretzel anyone opposed uses to justify it.
Chalybos
“It’s un-American, because I’ll lose voters.”
Narfwak
That's not even remotely true. It's in the PATRIOT Act already. Do not advocate for further increases to the police state.
Narfwak
Also, to be clear, yes these people are terrorists. Yes they should be charged. We do not need more laws to do that, though.
aFadingMemory
Well I got that information from an interview with Frank Figliuzzi, the former assistant director for counterintelligence at the FBI. Can
aFadingMemory
you show me where the law is that allows charging someone with the crime of domestic terrorism. And don't just say "The PATRIOT act"
aFadingMemory
Section 802 of the patriot act changes the definition of domestic terrorism but does not make it a crime.
Narfwak
It doesn't need to BE a crime. That's the point. The label unlocks added investigation powers, but there's ALREADY a crime underneath.
Narfwak
The existing statute is already insanely overbroad. https://www.aclu.org/other/how-usa-patriot-act-redefines-domestic-terrorism
CityYeti
Just remember this, the Proud Boys are Nazis that claim they fight against communism. This is the same tactic made by pro-Nazi groups in
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
To claim a nearly nonexistant opponent is an easy way to gain power. The only hard part is once you eliminate the real ones, you have to 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Manufacture fake examples such as what happened with mccarthyism. 2/2
CityYeti
American history, like for example, the Silver Shirts, who were pro-fascist
catsandcoke
Isn’t that considered brandishing a weapon? Can’t help be charged?
Bukkhockey
Ona video call? The rules for that haven't been written in to law yet so I doubt it. This situation could be the precedent if it goes trial
aFadingMemory
There may be some of that coming up anyway with regard to kids getting suspended/expelled for stuff in zoom school sessions.
TheNLK
I think it was an online video meeting. Not sure if it's possible to charge him for brandishing, and I doubt he could be charged for 1/2
TheNLK
threatening, unless he said words to go along with it. Just a dickhead move and should probably lose his job.
iTotallyDidntFckTheChickenBreast
Didn't that one kid get suspended from school for having a bb gun in the background of his OWN ROOM during his online class?
TheNLK
Yep. That was stupid, but also up to the discretion of the school not the courts.
lietotheelderly
You can lose your LTC for doing that bullshit. That's intimidation and that person is an asshole for doing that.
BootsDusty
SerialChickenLover
I won’t
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
They're not an organization. It's just an identifier for those who are sympathetic to domestic terrorism.
WarpHype
GOP*
WwwhyYouNoLikeMe
Always has been.jpeg
LeftistCoastalElite
So is Antifa.
Shigbeard
Antifa is a terrorist organization by title alone. In reality its a peaceful activist organization that gets false flagged by bad actors.
WarpHype
All Americans should be anti-fascists. We fought against it together.
jennym123
OMG you really are a troll account.
MrCroupAndMrVandemar
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
I see you like down votes and misinformation...There you go dummy
FistfulOfAssholes
Gaslighting fuck “I think if a person sees a gun and regardless of context feels intimidated, I would be concerned for their mental health.”
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Especially when the context was very threatening.
ForseHucker
Bet hed shit his pants if I pointed one at his face. Hypocritical assholes.
battlepants
I view them as dangerous tools to be handled carefully, much like cars. And, like cars, I get nervous when they are handled by idiots.
Bathroomboy
A tool specifically made to kill, aha mhm yes. Just like cars! I get your point.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
If only more Americans shared that view i might be less convinced we need stringent gun laws. Sadly I would say you are the minority.
lykwo
And we all know how criminals obey laws!
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Ya since criminals don't obey laws lets just not have any since they might be abused.
AMRIV
I think a lot of the problems with gun laws is one side doesn't know how they work, and the other opposes any and all regulation of them-
AMRIV
- on top of also mostly not knowing how they work.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
I would say democrats do understand how gun laws work. Republicans think a basic law about not having mentally ill people with guns means1/2
wheelerws2718
Second Amendment is for white people only
lowerider777
Well duh, how else will we oppress minorities?! /s
voltanton
Bullshit. Try telling Colion Noir that.
TrumpSuxIvankastoeslikechillidogs
Ask Reagan
ScrotusMcgoatus
Found the fragile white guy. Colion Noir is a simp for the NRA, who is a lobby for gun manufacturers.
voltanton
Found the moron. He renounced the NRA ages ago, much like I did.
ScrotusMcgoatus
https://youtu.be/6DG94K-XCHk ok, shown me one where he has renounced the NRA.
ScrotusMcgoatus
But even he has acknowledged on video that being Black is a detriment to gun ownership.
flarflarf
virtually ever gun control law in america was designed to make sure guns were kept out of the hands of black people.
BigTex1
Bingo, it’s about power and control.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
*passed by conservatives* is a big thing to include really. See reagan and co instantly passing one because of black panthers. But a law 1/2
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
That stops people who have pre-established mental issues from owning firearms? No republican supports that. Most democrats do. 2/2
keillrandor
The States should have the power to do that, obviously, but the extremists don't even want that.
flarflarf
the AWB of the 90's immediately followed that Clinton "superpredator" bullshit, so no, it's not just "passed by conservatives." Unless you
flarflarf
want to count Clinton as a conservative in which case I am listening.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
I *try* to use conservative and liberal as their actual words meaning, so yes Clinton is largely a conservative as are most democrats. 1/2
BrazilianThunderPanda
Thankfully Socialist Rifle Association & John Brown Gun Club are here to encourage arming minorities.
xgingavitisx
NAAGA also.
FinnAndJakesTreeHouse
Is it really called that?
xgingavitisx
It is. I was skeptical that I, a white male, could but a NAAGA card lol, but it is truly the National African American Gun Association.
FinnAndJakesTreeHouse
Sheesh
BrazilianThunderPanda
NAAGA please..
FinnAndJakesTreeHouse
I’m innocently confused by this comment. Am I missing something?
VodkaReindeer
Some black student got punished for having an airsoft gun in his room during class or something.
Ehilgy
https://youtu.be/jf5TEoo-EY0 they didn’t arrest him but the response is WAY different in the US
uptaco
This. It doesn't happen everywhere, but it happens even till this day.
Dagordae
History. For a vast majority of the history of the USA black people weren't allowed to own guns. And when they technically were, they in
Dagordae
reality were not due abuse of power from those in charge. And then you get the gun control movement which was, historically, depressingly
Dagordae
often spurred by black people owning guns and acting like white people. And finally you get the fun of unequal enforcement of laws. You can
Dagordae
guess which group tends to be targeted and which gets a pass.
Ehilgy
California’s gun laws were first implemented by Reagan after Black Panthers peacefully demonstrated. And a multitude of recent...
VresiBerba
CA was before, then and still is extremely anti-gun and the legislation had precisely not one damned thing to do with BP protesting.
Ehilgy
Police shootings of legal black gun owners.
sDsnAlien
Also killed a young boy with a toy gun. See kyle rittenhouse. I forget the black kids name.
WolfRexV3
Tamir Rice
Ughffs
That was also when and why the NRA was formed, to propose that legislation.
BigTex1
The NRA was formed in like 1870.
BigTex1
And it’s lobbying arms (the NRA-ILA) wasn’t established until like 1975.