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I genuinely think that over-normalizing and trivializing serious mental health issues is detrimental to the social stigma and view of these disorders. If an individual struggling thinks "oh this is normal, everyone on Facebook/Imgur/Reddit is also incredibly suicidal", less people will seek out the psychiatric help and therapy they desperately need.
lottieteatoddy
To be honest, as someone who genuinely suffers from fairly crippling social anxiety and depression, it really bother me when friends others
lottieteatoddy
Who I know don't actually suffer from these same mental illnesses play them off as a joke. It's become so vogue to have a mental disability.
QueenofFail
Since it has become "normal", I'm no longer ashamed to get the help I need. Dark humor has helped me, more than it has hurt.
MrsMooey
Exactly what I was going to say. A lot of people don't seek the help they need because they feel isolated. This kind of thing stops that.
Clayman8
Helps me tbh... i feel less alone knowing that im not the one having issues and that people are lending an ear or say a kind word or two...
DoublevBomb
http://imgur.com/cOsE4k9
BrockenSpectre
On the contrary it is normal to be depressed and anxious in a society like ours. Sharing it with other people is healthy.
thefrompleman
lots of people seem to have this idea in their heads that if they aren't happy, then they must be depressed
TheGrubinator
If they have a long-standing unhappiness, and find nothing appealing in life? Yes. They are depressed. That's the definition of (1)
TheGrubinator
depression - a persistent mood of sadness and loss of interest. That said, "persistent" is the key word. Being sad for a day doesn't (2)
TheGrubinator
mean you're depressed. But if you're sad for a week straight, with no clear-cut reason why, you may be in a depressive episode.
Brrrrrrp
Clinical psychologist here. To provide hope, message needs to be "mental illness is normal (doesn't mean YOU are bad) AND it can be helped"
RosegoldEverything
I believe OP is more getting at portraying it as something everyone just has and doesn't get help for.
LastoftheLillyCreatures
both effects are there, but I tend to go with "It is normal. It is ok. Get help anyways, because normal doesn't mean good or healthy."
RosegoldEverything
I see what you mean. With that, I'd be inclined to say "common", rather than "normal", as I'd think normal implies it's not an issue.
LastoftheLillyCreatures
That's a point, although I'd think that calling it normal could also mean that it's not an individual but systemic issue - one I'd sign
Hailstormandblizzard
Agreed. After realizing it wasnt normal I thought it stupid I hadn't gone sooner. With medication I can control my bipolar disorder!
GreenFox
Some people need someone to talk to. Letting these posts get to the front page is a bit much, but downvoting to hell isn't good either.
Boobstuff
I think the real solution is don't take memes (of all things) seriously.
eroso
On the contrary actually. According to a research, people get less depressed if they see how others got everything worse than they do. (+)
eroso
(+)This applies to other direction too: If you see how good someone is doing, you'll feel bad about ur sucky life in comparison. This is (+)
eroso
(+) why instagram makes people depressed. People only post their highlights there, and everyone seems to be doing just great.
jamesisnotapenguin
UncageTheSage
So people hearing that lots of others feel how they do will disincentivize them from seeing help?
mkd64
Thanks to those depressed posts, I feel like I'm not alone in feeling this way. Sorry you have to deal with us.
bigpenisesaremessy
No, don't apologize. Your coping mechanism making someone else uncomfortable is not your problem, it's theirs.
SirBrendan
The mental illness rates, particularly depression, have been skyrocketing in the west, particularly America. It is normal,which is the issue
CloakerJosh
+1 for not using a goddamn puffin. Please reply, so I can upvote you again.
MonsterWithTentacles
Hi its me ur op
LePleb
+2 using a pangolin
Gayforbae
Yes! Let's replace the puffins and sad posts with more Polite Pangolins!
Anhabanana
I'd upvote more Polite Pangolins :)
CorgiCircus
zzztgot
Same here.
zombiebatman
I came here to breathe strongly through my nose because I'm browsing at work and people would look if I laughed Not to feel!
frobert
I can't comment on the post but I'll do this. So when I was 10(in 13 now I started to become suicidal and depressed and I went on here 1/?
frobert
And I saw posts on this topic and I got really confused but then I was alright it's normal to feel like this then and I just kept on and 2/?
frobert
I still deal with depression and self harm and suicidal thoughts and I've gotten better I have friend that understand it now 3/3
JoonasD6
Fear not, for aren't puffins only used for messages which are detrimental to mental health anyway?
SPQAAE
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.wh2T9QSWNx-9FiBTRlH01QEsCo&pid=15.1&P=0&w=339&h=191
GenghisKhAnne
Aw thanks! I try to keep meme-integrity.
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notdavidcameron
No need to apologize, imgur link!
tranquilomeng
YeahICanHearYouClemFandango
As someone who actively goes to extensive therapy to fight my severe anxiety, I hate seeing it trivialised on social media, so thank you!!!!
MrPoopyDickButt
But like, why are we taking moral advice from Genghis Khan?
Wrathrunner
All he did was wipe out a vast portion of China because they were ravaging his lovely plains and killed his dad
Wrathrunner
(the Chinese killed his dad)
Choloquarian
You are true hero you glorious being
ArbitraryCommas
Thank you for your care about meme lives.
GandalfTheOctarine
Awesome. I almost started to feel like an outcast for not having any mental disorders.
Danktastic
I just upvoted this from 2999 to 3000
yorribah
I do understand the fact that it may be harmfull but, then again i also think it's kinda out of reach
unownlanguage
Seriously my feelings are a joke to others on here? I thought I was finally a part of the crowd! I am actually more depressed #Suicidemecapn
Fejerro
Oooo, you're gonna get a trophy for this comment too! Double win!
stoler202
More like double dip.
bloodtypeinfinity
Noone fucking cares.
stoler202
I thought Imgur always hated double dipping?
craaaaaaaaaaaaig
Why come?
CanadianFurr
How*
craaaaaaaaaaaaig
Rats! And I would have gotten away with it too... If it werent for you and your meddling username!
Fejerro
Steal Your Thunder is an imgur trophy for getting more points on your reply to the top comment than the top comment got.
craaaaaaaaaaaaig
Noice
CloakerJosh
I'm helping!
cinemeasctha
We need to make mental health normal. It's nothing to be ashamed of. After the recession the Suicide rates are high.
GenghisKhAnne
I'm saying the severity of mental disorders shouldn't be reduced to a constant meme dumps or a generalized joke
A113Disney
Right. I have loved ones who seem even more depressed and socially awkward now because it has become "cool" due to the same recycled memes.
frumpee
I think normalizing mental health issues tells people with such issues that they aren't so weird after all
rocketturttle
also usually creates a bandwagon affect
Corona688
I don't honestly think there's a lot of fakers. There's a small number of fakers who do a lot :/
Showmeyourotters
I don't think people fake so much as they just misdiagnose themselves. They want to find explanations for different things in their lives
Showmeyourotters
but go to the internet instead of a doctor or other pro. So instead of something like "Oh, hormones" they think "Oh, mental illness" just
Showmeyourotters
like the people who look up their cold symptoms and think "Shit, pneumonia". Everyone has the info but not everyone has the understanding.
rocketturttle
there are a huge number of people who are bored and unhappy who have self-diagnosed clinical depression
AphroditesDimples
"Self-diagnosed" being the key term here.
SanshinDojo
Bullshit. Normalizing mental illness helps to remove the stigma that often keeps people from seeking help.
theREALskittlepoop
They help me
WhiterunWarriorProject
A bunch of engineering students were sitting around talking about the funniest ways to die. Winner was gluing hands to the side of your (1)
WhiterunWarriorProject
head as it gets cut off. Funny to think that "HE RIPPED HIS HEAD OFF!" people laughed and felt better.
Angel666Hawk
I have crippling depression and they are my favorite dumps. I can relate...
DoublevBomb
"GIT GUD" http://imgur.com/cOsE4k9
Yeraton
fuck no its my only solace
etherbunny41
But... they're not funny. Like... at all. they're just sad.
Winterfox
that's your opinion
digstermuhooboot
But is that healthy? As someone who has suffered from depression for years, things that feel like your only solace sometimes hold you back.
digstermuhooboot
Vicious cycle / coping instead of treating / reenforcement of beliefs etc etc.
dobbythehouseelf
I had my first major depressive episode in years last April and someone got mad at me for posting on facebook what was going on and why (1)
dobbythehouseelf
I might not be in class or why I was going to disappear from social media. I wasn't whining at all. Some people just want you to shut up 2/2
Corona688
Some people just refuse to sympathize. If you assume depression doesn't exist, it's "whining".
RussellJackman
Completely true. The eternal "suck it up" or "stop moping" comments. Sorry, depression doesn't work that way.
dobbythehouseelf
Yeah it's not like I couldn't get myself to eat anything or couldn't physically get out of bed. I should have just tried harder.
misfitsofscience2
That's mad weak. WTF.
WhatIfTho
Nope. Humour helps.
SerialChillinSpree
It helped me...nail your mom with my hammer. I couldn't stop laughing even after I caulked all cracks.
WhatIfTho
Kys cunt.
Nukeshi
Yo what the fuck
WhatIsThisImgurIHearAbout
Its better to normalize mental illnesses. The stigma of them being weird terrible things that need to be hidden away does a lot more damage
HealyFealy
Yeah, we can do without the policing. If we are gonna start censoring Imgur can we at least start with the trans-hate and the softcore porn?
Cncnorman
Holy shit is this true. Frickin baby boomer parents wouldn't get me psych help as a kid (started being suicidal around 11).
skorve
But it doesn't normalize real mental illness, it just makes it into a common joke.
TK421isAFK
Agreed, but this is about all the idiots complaining about their OCD (they like things kinda neat) and pseudo-depression (having a bad day).
mallywanders
The ideas on the Internet of depression being so widespread actually stopped me from getting help for almost a decade, thinking that I
mallywanders
Didn't have it bad enough to be considered depressed. My somatic symptoms have gotten severe enough that I've been tested for arthritis. I
mallywanders
Had so much physical pain that I couldn't function. My blood panel was all normal and healthy, but thanks to my emotional state the doctor
mallywanders
Was able to tell me before I even got the blood tests that there was a good chance my pain was coming from my depression.
blaisenicoletti101
We should not normalize nor choose to hide them. Some want and will help but only if those struggling w the illness admit it is an illness.
AVoiceOfReason
By definition, it is abnormal. If you want to remove stigma, fine, but call apples apples. Don't pretend that illness is alternative health.
WhatIsThisImgurIHearAbout
Literally no one is.
AVoiceOfReason
Using absolutes so flippantly like that is going to land you in trouble. Many people can and do try to characterize it as "still healthy"(1)
AVoiceOfReason
because they believe it to be a weapon against people who stigmatize it. While it shouldn't be stigmatized, that's the wrong approach. (2)
AVoiceOfReason
It's like people going "I was born gay" when in reality they should say "Yeah, I'm gay, what about it, go fuck yourself." Don't be (3)
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
Depression makes you feel very alone. Finding out that others feel exactly how you is a kind of a revelation that your not totally crazy.
AphroditesDimples
I don't think anyone is saying that being clinically depressed is desirable. But we now know it is more common than we thought.
Sassmachine
Agreed. Normalization doesn't actually remove the stigma from mental illness. Learning you shouldn't be an asshole to people because of /2
Sassmachine
their differences does.
GenghisKhAnne
Normalize may not have been my best word choice. 'Romanticize' is more what I'm getting at here.
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BlanKitt
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ With that attitude, who the fuck gives a shit about what you're saying here?
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BlanKitt
Breathe buddy. Is something wrong? Are you having a bad day? I'm being genuine here. I hope everything works out for you.
Natsumori
I can see both sides. It really depends on the post/meme to me. Usually, I don't think posts concerning depression or anxiety glorify them>
Natsumori
but they can. I don't think suicide should be trivialized, though.
DoublevBomb
This can be a meme, or just a fact: http://imgur.com/cOsE4k9
HealyFealy
Everybody upvoting this garbage needs to review this person's comment history and find out how biased/misinformed s/he is. Don't support it.
MartinD28
"Depression" is too often fetishized on social media sites. Theres a big difference between normal unhappiness and a chemical imbalance.
SerialChillinSpree
I used to say I was in love with my sadness. Not really sure what depression is or if I have it - have had bouts though. Good post.
Madaco
"My melancholy is the most faithful sweetheart I have had — no wonder that I return the love!" - Either/Or (part 1: Either) by Kierkegaard
twofishtails
Hyperemotionalism is a major syndrome of adolescent transition and is often confused/romanticized as mental illness. Very fashionable.
staplesthegreat
Honestly, the memes give me a mostly harmless easy of expressing my item problems, so idk, they're a pretty good coping mechanism
HealyFealy
Sorry that my reality offends you, you selfish judgmental prick.
RheaButt
He means that the people without depression casually talking about it without actually knowing anything about it undermines the struggles-
HealyFealy
I don't think he does mean that. In any case, it's much worse when toolbags like this say people should be censored because he doesn't like
HealyFealy
hearing about it.
RheaButt
-of people with actual depression by comparing the them to something much more mild in comparison
DirtyMicrowave
"These people make me uncomfortable. Make them go away." could be an alternate title.
RosegoldEverything
Eh, it seems to me that there is genuine concern, if misguided.
Corona688
THANK YOU. This was bothering me but I couldn't find a way to articulate it.
FoxKeegan
No. What was harmful was the baby boomer generation's approach to dismissing and ignoring it, leading to our terrible mental healthcare
etherbunny41
Well yeah, but... it's just not funny. Like... at all.
popejubal
It's possible for more than one thing to be harmful.
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
No what's harmful is thinking that an entire generation of people screwed everything up when it was really just a few turds in authority.
FoxKeegan
I'd have less of an issue with that if so many of the generation understood the differences between the golden ticket they got (1/2)
FoxKeegan
(2/2) and the shaft every generation after them got. Turds in authority or not, they still benefited from those decisions
HarryPotterReferenceProbably
Have you actually talked to them?
FoxKeegan
In my experience they don't talk TO our generation--they speak AT us.
reduglie
You can point fingers while the ship sinks while we should all just be helping each other.
FoxKeegan
No, you point fingers when a ship sinks. The fucker at the helm? He's supposed to go DOWN with the ship, not be the first on the lifeboat.
GenghisKhAnne
I ABSOLUTELY agree. Hearing so many of that age group saying that mental disorders don't exist is so difficult and frustrating.
nycterelis
Of all the things were parents could be accused, this is thankfully not one. Though, the irony of my dad telling me it was ok to seek 1/x
nycterelis
Therapy while also constantly destroying my self image with the emotional abuse did escape me until much later.
meredithmoderate
As the options for treatment increase, it becomes easier for that next generation to be more open about mental health issues. 1/2
meredithmoderate
As a boomer myself, who takes meds, it was hard to open up about a disease, already stigmatized, when the good meds weren't around yet.
tzxAzrael
that said, also remember that now it's the boomers' kids saying "there's nothing wrong with my perfect little angel, he didn't mean to...
tzxAzrael
shoot a dozen kids at the park. besides, boys will be boys~"
FoxKeegan
Of course it is--dipshits will be riding that entitlement wave on a surfboard of victim complex until this nation burns
FoxKeegan
Doesn't mean those of us with brains can't point out why shit's on fire
tzxAzrael
hell, man... "on fire" was a long time ago. "raging uncontrolled wildfire" is a bit more like what we have now.
frumpee
Yes, unlike every generation in the history of man that preceded the boomers
FoxKeegan
If everyone posts it, and it's normal, it's acceptable and true. We have solidarity. Even if we can't get help, I know I'm not alone.
DoublevBomb
http://imgur.com/cOsE4k9
FoxKeegan
I need this on a t-shirt
FoxKeegan
But then I'd need to start wearing t-shirts...
FoxKeegan
That way when we're the old fuckers ruining the country, at least there's a better chance we'll have health care.
FoxKeegan
What's REALLY hurting this normalization is psychiatrists not having time for ppl who are actually sick because therapy is becoming a (1/
FoxKeegan
past-time for the rich who aren't clinically sick, but want to complain to someone for $400 an hour, and the docs are giving them priority
FoxKeegan
All because now it's acceptable to have issues, because everyone does, and always has. People will find a way to ruin everything...
bigez1988
The baby boomer generation's approach? You mean every generation until now's approach, right?
FoxKeegan
No, I mean the part where science advances to the point where things can be explained and an entire generation ignores it anyway
FoxKeegan
A generation who decides pills solve everything and kick everyone out of mental health facilities
FoxKeegan
A generation who decided they didn't need public mental health, because it was expensive, so they kicked everyone out and shut them down
FoxKeegan
Then, when the people who needed help snapped, society was pissed at them again on an individual level, and had them arrested
bigez1988
So people who suffer from depression need to be in psychiatric hospitals? Not trying to be a smartass just askibg
FoxKeegan
I was referring to mental health in general, but even for those with depression actually HAVING facilities is better than prison.
Zokalwe
For people on the verge to snap, that may be necessary. Also note that mental health is about WAY more than depression.
Crosswise
I hope you know the next generations after us are gonna be saying this kind of stuff about *us* in 30-50 years. "MILLENNIALS SCREWED US ALL"
scuba7jb
Nope. I'm not having kids. The cycle of ignorance and stupidity ends with me... vasectomy at age 27 for the win!
TheBurritoConfederacy
Out of curiosity, how much did that vasectomy take out of your wallet?
scuba7jb
[USA] I got chopped in 2009 and I only had to cover the pre-op copay.... so getting my nuts cut only cost me $35 :-D
FoxKeegan
What he said--childfree here. And we're already fkn jaded. The next generation will look like the current youth of Russia.
scuba7jb
Every single person wears a black & white tracksuit and has a dash cam in their car??
FoxKeegan
I guess it could be worse
Firefluff
It is not just social media... my parents always told me that "you have no reason to be depressed" and "it's just a phase" even friends 1/2
Firefluff
Would tell me "everyone feels like that". If I had more people over the past 20 years telling me otherwise I would have seeked help sooner
Corona688
It's difficult to sympathize with things they've never felt...
Nukeshi
I think empathizing might be hard for them, but if they don't have any sympathy what-so-ever, that's kinda shitty
Firefluff
Well, more I meant that I was assured depression and suicidal thoughts was normal from such a young age. Had no idea for such a long time.
ICanHasJava
To be honest, though, I think it helps a lot of people too. Being miserable AND alone is the worst.
princessswan
And it might help some be less ashamed of going out and seeking professional help.
GuestChrist
Yeah? Well I'm miserable and alone, so maybe someone can explain how whining to strangers online will make me less so. I'm with OP.
Waidonut
Knowing others are fighting anxiety alongside with me helps tremendously. The thought of facing it alone is too much.
BelaLughosti
And I feel it helps normalize. Me at least, I don't feel like I'm an outlier
Sinisfun
I think being miserable,alone and severely constipated is the worst. Speaking for a friend.
urgotobekiddingme
Misery loves company
astrakko
Find serious help and dont beg here. Not the right thing to do.
Name0fUser
Eh. I have a combination of anxiety and bi-polar disorders, and as you can guess, depression. I get ridiculed as a hipster if I tell people.
CondescendingCunt
Bitch, please. Being alone is delightful. Being surrounded by repugnant, obnoxious gitsーhoweverー is not.
ICanHasJava
I love being physically alone. But feeling as though I'm the only one in the world with a particular problem is the pits.
KnightNeo
They're still alone though because they're not actually communing with the people that share the same pain.
squirrelfury
Knowing that someone else is out there can be enough. Suicide hotline workers are trained to find even the smallest thing to keep someone>
squirrelfury
>going. A colleague once told me that he talked one guy down by making him realize he wasn't sure who would feed his goldfish. Someone>
squirrelfury
>across the world is still more than no one.
CiderChugginBitch
It made me feel not alone but since I've been getting help the memes have been doing a ton of harm. It's hurtful for those of us healing.
CiderChugginBitch
I need to force myself to thought stop and create positive things about myself. It's super hard when you're surrounded by depression.
ICanHasJava
How so?
CiderChugginBitch
Sorry I replied to me instead. Read that for the answer lol.
GrandmaSlappy
This for me...
Tanerat
But being miserable and seeing that everyone else is too, can be the last straw for some.
Tanerat
Hope is a fleeting thing.
Mossatron
I think that is BS.. I struggle enough without needing to see it on here. I come here for some humor, some relief from a harsh reality.
jbjba12345
Can confirm, I'm miserable and alone, which just makes me more miserable
banananamz
That's true! but I've met some who try too hard to normalize it and it ends up sounding like "why you complaining? it's not a big deal"
banananamz
Then I feel bad for opening up about it and think that it's a trivial matter I shouldn't bother them with.
JoshsCompany
I know! I cant wait t o die :\
nycterelis
I never understood this. Not being alone in how I feel about things has never made the pain easier for me. Glad it helps some though
CottonCandiJenni
I find it easier to talk to friends who have been as low as me, than even to talk to family.
Thedevilofsnowflakes
Not easier but some people feel less like an alien then.
wisswee
It's about connecting with others and knowing that we all feel the same feelings. This can lead to helping others
nycterelis
That's cool and all, but i don't really care about people enough to connect with them.
PedestrianElectrobastard
I'm a little envious of people who can manage to bond over nothing but shared anxieties. I'm not even convinced you *do* feel what I feel.
nycterelis
Yeah, i feel this, too. It affects everyone differently.
FuddGubbler
agreed.
petrie911
Not everyone needs the same advice http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/09/all-debates-are-bravery-debates/
ICanHasJava
Thank you for this, I really enjoyed the read.
Illthinkofausernamelater
The problem is it also romanticizes them. Everyone knows that one attention whore whos convinced they have the latest media mentioned ail.
MessiahOfRats
I'd rather have depression and be alone in having it than knowing millions of other suffer from the same thing, and even worse.
BlanKitt
To each their own, but as someone with a lot of stuff wrong, I like knowing I'm not alone. ¯\_(o_o)_/¯
MrPredator
You learn to live with it, kind of like being born with a hole in your heart.
SickRanchez
Most of the shit on imgur is ppl self-diagnosing their own sadness as "crippling depression" tho which is definitely harmful
fencingmaster
"oh I have clinical depression so it's totally out of my control even though I'm just lazy."
johnvictor
Which is why I hate using the word "sad" when discussing with my doctor my feelings and such. Not to mention it's so goddamn vague!
squirrelfury
I've always felt like the sadness is secondary. Anybody would be dealing with depression long term.
derock789
Yes but being proud of your depression is even worse. You have to accept that it's a problem and work towards a solution. Not romanticize it
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ScaryScarab
This - many are talking like it's a drug you can just get help for and quit, and if that were the case, everyone would be free of it.
P0k5
Exactly, sometimes reading that others have it tough makes it suck less, thinking that you are not the only one feeling like shit all the ti
inga504
Not trying to be confrontational but no one I've ever known that's been clinically depressed would even know how to romanticize, anything.
busdriverdan
Depression and happiness are often not simply states of being you can become through effort. You will never be "happy" permanently.
LordRytyr
Romanticizing happiness is worse. Making people feel like they have to fake happiness or invalidate their emotions is seriously unhealthy.
GBspiral
This comment is top tier
Corona688
Sometimes depression is a symptom of living in a crappy situation. Sometimes its not.
Illthinkofausernamelater
To some who aren't clinically depressed its a self diagnosis to excuse toxic and self destructive behavior.
Illthinkofausernamelater
Romanticizing and excusing all actions by those with "mental illness" in that regards is actually super harmful.
Corona688
Good thing that's not actually happening...
Illthinkofausernamelater
It is. I've seen a lot of people that aren't actually ill praised for manipulative and toxic behaviour under the guise of illness.
GenghisKhAnne
I can completely agree with that, and having someone relate to you and what you feel is super important however I disagree in that (1/?)
BleachItsWhatsForDinner
I'm sorry Genghis, I see your side of it, but I do agree with Java. It's bad enough to feel like this and it personally helps me cope.
TimurKl
Physciatric isn't cheap, by the way.
GenghisKhAnne
Someone with severe critical passive suicidal tendencies for an extended period of time is not really relatable to someone that (2/?)
GenghisKhAnne
Doesn't like their job or situation and is down about it. Having a period of depression versus clinical MDD are incredibly different.
investigation27
I'm uncertain what memes you're referring to. It seems like there must be some I'm not seeing, or our interpretations vary. Example?
vennthrax
wrong. memes helped me find help. memes 1 you 0
Mechlai
I don't know much about stuff, but even though my life is in a shit spot, I feel like my friends irl and people online have depression 1/?
Mechlai
far worse than I have. Sure, I've considered suicide before, but who hasn't? A buddy of mine killed himself and my only real irl 2/?
Bellamortis
It's not so much about relating to the specific person who posted the meme as it is a general feeling of not being alone
Meowskimeowmeow
That can also feel like everyone feels as bad as you and you're the only one not managing life regardless of it.
FoxKeegan
They are, but what's that got to do with posting memes about feeling bad and being able to relate about feeling bad together?
BlondieSayWhat
Kids (and a sad number of adults) don't know the difference?
GenghisKhAnne
It being normalized like that leads to less people seeking treatment.
Wrathrunner
Because people should be aware they dont have to put up with or their whole life
trinxter
What about all those gender mixing is mental illness? Do we less of those posts too...?
trinxter
*need
CloakerJosh
Please.
Lezbedevious
I don't seek help because I can't afford it. I found solace knowing other prior as fucked as I am. I'm not alone. *shrugs
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JohnnyTitelips
LGBT. It's LGBT. Don't add every flavor of the week.
VBot
Same. Looked for months for free and low cost options. Huge huge barriers. Nothing yet.
RobertNAdams
I don't need help 'cause most of the things that make me sad could be solved by hitting the lotto. Can't really do much about it otherwise.
srdalyssa
Same here.
cfcannon
Got refferal. They wanted $300/session & even if you cancelled 47hours before your appt you get charged full fee. Also not in network. Nope.
JanetVanDyne
Istarted uaing blahtherapy . Com. It's been so helpful.
10tacles
Try meditation. It is not easy but there are techniques that you can do by yourself so they are effectively free.
Lezbedevious
I used to do massage therapy and this was great, being a healer, and taking time to heal myself. It didn't pay the bills so I got a desk job
Lezbedevious
that I'm less than happy about. I think if I could let it go and do things like meditate and all that again it'd help. But then apathy hits.
JamesWPerareikaleipa
Others have the same problems. Everyone is better than me. Ergo, I'm fucked.
EmeraldLight
Yuuup. The free counseling is crap, actual shrinkers are like $100 an hour...
TheClayKnight
My brain read the end as *drugs*
dinobots56
There are some apps that are $32 a week and you get to talk to a licenced person! It is texting but it can help.
VBot
That is hugely expensive for me. Not sure for anyone else.
dinobots56
Oh I agree when I first saw it I was shocked. But compared to other prices it is actually cheap (sadly)
dinobots56
I just found this site called 7cupsoftea it is supposed to be free therapy and what not. I haven't tried it yet but maybe it could help!
therealpoodleofdeath
It's so fucked up you guys have to pay for therapy :(
hersbad
it's nothing new..
therealpoodleofdeath
I know it's not but it's easy to forget when here in Germany I get all my therapy and clinic stays paid and my wages when I can't work..
hersbad
it's the American dream thing, you can make as much or as little as you want, therapists and drs. included.????
superwasabi
I dont seek help cause I dont want to be on meds, and have come to realize this is who I am.
SueZeeKew
Also, if you need someone to listen, shoot me a message. And that goes for anyone having a tough time that comes across this.
AprilBlartMallCop
Not everyone who needs help needs meds. Talk therapy can be just as effective for some
Purplegill10
You don't have to be on meds. Many people can find help through therapy or other sources too.
ParaBailarLaBamba
I didn´t! I got recommended a mild anxiety med, but thankfully, never needed. But it was nice to know I had a safety net just in case.
Purplegill10
Good on ya
SueZeeKew
I suffered from depression for 17 years and felt it was who I was as well. Once I sought the help I needed & was put on to the medication
superwasabi
Its been about 19 years for me, I am an artist and am afraid that meds will take the fire in me to create.
SueZeeKew
Don't be. I'm still able to feel a huge range of emotions, but I'm also able to deal with them now rather than letting them consume me.
SueZeeKew
Imagine the beautiful things you could create when you're free from it. I don't mean to come off med preachy, but I honestly feel like I've
BlanKitt
Everyone gets inspiration differently. I'd say "try meds", but it's your life and I'm a random on the internet. I wish you hope regardless!
superwasabi
thank you, I wish the best for you
SueZeeKew
I'm on now, I could not believe how I used to live. It was like I had woken up from a crippling nightmare. My med is once and a day and no
SueZeeKew
side effects. Talking to my doctor was honestly the best thing I've ever done (besides my kid) and to this day I believe she saved my life.
Lezbedevious
what did they put you on, i know everyone reacts to everything different. I just see what it did to my sister and I worry.
catsaregroundowls
Wait you did your kid?!!
GenghisKhAnne
There are multiple free therapy resources in most locations. Even if you can't afford prescriptions a therapist can be free and helpful
concaveUsurper
I tried that, they told me they were too full and I had to be suicidal to get in now.
Arichann
You'd be surprised. As many as there are in my city, the majority of them are out of network, too far, or don't accept my insurance.
PitaAwesome
It's not easy at all. Especially, tried to find in my network, it actually took me months to find. I wish it were easy as going to a clinic
NodIfYouCanHearMe
Not on my area. And trust me, I've looked. The cheapest I could find was 100 bucks an hour. Though I also live in a very poor state.
sharkhugs
Psychology students at colleges give free sessions for the experience
steponabich
No they don't they charge money
nycterelis
Your username seems relevant. I suffered through depression for 17 years before finally finding meds that help. I've been in and out of 1/x
nycterelis
Therapy for 7 years. I can't say I necessarily know what I'm talking about, but if you need an ear and occasional advice drop me a 2/x
nycterelis
Message. And i know a lot of people say that and it's hollow. I never took people up on it because how good is talking about it to 3/x
GenghisKhAnne
Where do you live if you don't mind me asking?
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NodIfYouCanHearMe
Ha, IT actually, but I'd argue I spend as much time listening to people's problems.
NodIfYouCanHearMe
Mississippi. We have a critically underfunded mental health system unfortunately, especially in rural areas.
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mrmartini
There's also that issue of making too much for Medicaid and not enough to afford a plan that covers proper mental health treatment. (1)
mrmartini
(2) that is if you live in a state that even bothered to expand Medicaid.
BigJewishWoman
Actually as someone who is pursuing a PHD in Psychology, with a specialization on behavioral cognitive therapy, you can't cure depression.
Corona688
Sometimes depression is a symptom of living in a crappy situation.
xmaneds
no, you're an idiot
wrackspurts
Go fuck yourself
LD2GJ
You are getting a downvote because you are wrong. @TheBaroness5500 has it right.
GenghisKhAnne
As a med student...we're all aware that psychology is not real science. Psychiatry? Yes. Psychology? Not at all.
hencethequeef
Psychiatry is hardly scientific. Diagnoses are based on vague symptoms, not medical causes, and treatment is trial-and-error at best.
TheBaroness5500
Shit man, someone ought to let all those people benefiting from psychology and psychological research know to cut that out right away.
BigJewishWoman
You're so wrong there buddy
HealyFealy
Wow. How much more misinformed can you get. Waste of a human right here.
criablelurst
Hi OP. Please read this website:http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a-little-knowledge-is-a-dangerous-thing.html
TheBaroness5500
As a psychotherapist, & former sufferer, that's an incredibly damaging sweeping generalisation to make, and also unethical to lead with.
TheBaroness5500
And if a medical professional said that to me in any of my crisis periods, that could have led to me giving up on any hope of a normal life.
BigJewishWoman
Current research is changing. Dbt is relatively new but for the majority of the patients my sponsor sees there is no emphasis on curing them
TheBaroness5500
I see the value of DBT, especially the emphasis on mindfulness, but just like CBT before it it is not for everyone.
BigJewishWoman
Dbt can help everyone. Mindfulness is a tool we all need. Understand your triggers and emotions is critical to healthy relationships
TheBaroness5500
I believe that DBT can be helpful people who respond to that structure. I personally responded much better to Person-Centred Therapy.
BigJewishWoman
But we never go about saying "you won't be cured" it's more like a "you be able to live as healthy a life as anyone" but there is always
BigJewishWoman
The urge or tendency to revert back to damaging behaviors, especially when people think that 4 months of therapy is all it takes to be cured
TheBaroness5500
I find that is often based on poor communication between the client and therapist, or by the referring physician.
TheBaroness5500
So I'm interested in why you felt the need to say what you said in a public forum where a lot of people with mental health issues gather?
BigJewishWoman
Because we need to change the climate of mental health? Focus less of "curing these people " and letting them know they're not alone and
BigJewishWoman
And most people use these memes as a coping mechanism, and sometimes coping is all you can do,especially those with borderline personality
xmaneds
no, you're an idiot
theholliellama
Hey that's me! With the borderline personality and all. The memes really do help. I feel less alien because of them.
BigJewishWoman
Exactly! It's nice to see something you struggle with in an almost comedic sense.youre not alone and recognizing your strengths and weakness
BigJewishWoman
Helps immensenly. Keep on keeping on dear :)
BigJewishWoman
Which has no cure, but rather we teach tools for those to cure such negative behavior,and if making memes and feeling a sense of community
BigJewishWoman
And solidarity having these thoughts can help them to control their impulses. Self destructive behavior should be talked about and memed
BigJewishWoman
Not only does this create dialogue for people who would otherwise not understand what they were feeling, but it helps them to realize their
GenghisKhAnne
It should be proactively discussed, not romanticized as common helplessness. Also, ECT has a high success rate for treating BPD.
BigJewishWoman
Thoughts about suicide and depression are really just thoughts and unimportant or even hilarious impulses and feelings
TheBelleOfTheBrawl
Hey yo fellow phd candidate! I'm doing clinical forensic psych. I made a fb group where my friends and I share existential horror memes 1/
TheBelleOfTheBrawl
About graduate school and all of our dying will to live.
BigJewishWoman
What that sounds so fucking cool. I love all of the different branches of psych and everyone is so brilliant
TheBelleOfTheBrawl
Yeah it's a good time. Right now I do evals for family court, and therapy groups in jails for times a week for prac. I love it
xmaneds
except anyone who has an opinion