Many of us have been screaming this for a very loooong time!!! We are shocked by the lack of action! Much like many were when the Nazis grabbed power. More folks are realizing how goddawful T/ they are but changing the direction is a huge job. And the longer the FASCISTS remain in their stolen power, the longer it will take & the harder it wb to UNDO it:(
The same simplistic mentality that lumps all Americans together is the same simplistic mentality found in the bigots who elected the empty headed Cheeto.
There are absolutely exceptions to what this guy is saying, but this message isn't FOR them. It's for the people who need to get up and help the people who ARE protesting.
Listen. If anyone here has a plan on how to do something about that man, they will not be sharing it with you over the internet. That shit is need-to-know basis.
And until someone *enacts* a plan, we can't assume that people are already on it. In the meantime you'd probably be best staying off social media of any kind so you don't have to worry about people bitching at you for not doing anything.
I can arm myself and leroy jenkins myself into an ICE formation. I will be killed and will be forgotten in a week. we really want to do something but we can't do it alone. scheduled protests are absolute nonsense "hey, next weekend when you arent working, come on out and support us!" like its a muscular dystrophy walk. people are so concerned with food, rent, mortgages, tuition that they arent eager to upset the applecart. we are really fucked and it's been decades of planning that put us here
You're not being asked to Leroy Jenkins yourself, you're being asked to act as a collective, like you've recently seen other countries do. It is possible for you to work together. American Individualism makes it a lot harder to think that way, but it is absolutely within the capabilities of your society. The cost of living is on a steep climb. Pretty soon you're not going to have to worry about affording all those things; instead you'll Know that you simply can't. What then? And why not sooner?
You don't need to answer these questions, but I'm still going to ask them.
Where do you live? How big is your neighborhood? How far are you from your state capital? Have you tried asking your neighbors how they feel about all this? Have you asked them if they'd be willing to maybe skip the hypothetical "pilates and soccer practice" to maybe do something more important than that?
I've done all of this and more. I've been involved top to bottom for a decade. People will need to get hungry, really hungry for any kind of change. And thats the point of what is going on. When we are too physically weak to respond, that's the end goal. I'm sorry if I seem bitter but I can't not see what I am seeing.
Especially for people with socially heightened individualism. These messages aren't for the people who are already doing what needs to be done. These messages are for the people who haven't joined the cause yet.
This is victim blaming and this type of rhetoric does nothing to fix the problem. I know people are scared and angry, and I’m sure it makes you feel better to blame everyone else. The horrid behaviors we are seeing happen everywhere and its on all of us to stop it.
The victims are the ones killed, injured, kidnapped, or otherwise directly harmed by the actions of the abuser.
The rest of you are bystanders. It is up to you to collectively step in and protect those who can't protect themselves to prevent there from being MORE victims than there already are.
And you all are going to create some kind of fund so we can afford to eat while we protest or engage in cyber attacks that contribute to the destabilization so we can be successful right? Its a digital world. We don't have to do this alone. But y'all would rather point fingers. We are protesting. And people are dying. The news isn't reporting on it. Its a fucking shit show out there.
An excellent idea! Exchange rates and logistics of how it would all be distributed considering border issues and tariffs and what not complicates things a lot, though. Probably wouldn't be worth it for people outside the country to do it...
... oh hey, why don't YOU do it? Go around to people of your neighborhood and spread the word. People within reach of the problem can help out a whole lot easier than us folks way out here. Good thinking though! Now you have something you can Do!
I have probably done a lot more than the average fucking person and I'm fucking tired of keyboard warriors telling us we are doing nothing. Its not noble or smart to line up to get shot in the street. We need resources and tactics and those things take time to organize. And what part of media blackout don't you understand.
Then you're not the people this message is for. Put down the imgur (it's clearly not good for your psyche), get whatever sleep you can, and keep doing what you can.
Exactly this. Those who aren't rich cannot afford to miss work to join protests. They need to keep their jobs so they can feed and provide the basic care for their family. I agree that we need to collectively join together to protest AND supply support for those who need it during these times.
Those who aren't rich should've been out peacefully protesting when they COULD afford to. The best time to protest was yesterday; second best time to protest is today. Keep waiting and the cost of living will increase until you don't have a choice.
Those who aren't rich have lived scraping by for most of their lives. The system is working as intended to keep us all too close to starvation and homelessness to convince people to stand up for themselves. That and decades of propaganda.
Lack of unions getting fired for trying to start unions fired for talking about unions general mistrust of unions due to 100 years of media campaigns no savings no support no sympathy from neighbors having bill needing to eat needing to feed our kids/pets fear of retaliation fear of imprisonment fear of being shot lack of leadership lack of organization lack of knowledge on how to build leadership sickness And a well armored rouge police thats willing to kill.
Do you honestly think a company can afford to fire its entire work force if they decide to collectively not show up to work? How many of them do you think they can safely get rid of and replace within, oh... let's say a month?
You don't need the black feather. You've always had the power to fly. You just have to realize it.
Very good arguments. And people fought for that to not be the case... Yet here we are again.
It was the same if not worse at the start of last century. Yet people created unions and did all those things. Repercusión free? No, people bled. More will if you don't start organizing now
Exactly this. The whole "Fuck You, I Got Mine" mentality means that most Americans aren't willing to fight for their neighbors. There should have been massive protests YEARS ago, and the fucked up thing is that if you go back far enough you'll see there WERE protests... but they stopped, for some reason. We had a World War II, why not a Million Man March II?
If you're suggesting a coup you might want to think through some of the possible international ramifications, besides how poorly it could go for us. If we have to fully retreat from the world stage to deal with that, what happens in Taiwan? Would Putin go nuclear? We've given netanyahu a long leash but what about no leash? I don't know but it certainly could be very very bad
There isn't going to be a revolution. We're a nation of dopamine addicts that's been spoonfed bullshit from the Right AND Left for generations that we're better than every other country in the world, and that we have this magically self-correcting system of government. Take your Soma and let Someone Else™ deal with the real problems.
This guy's profile claims he's a software guy working at a Danish TV station, but his ENTIRE feed is just shitting on Americans. Really feels like troll farm rage bait.
Buddy, there's no contradiction, the "but" is misplaced. You can totally be a "software guy at a Danish TV station" AND "just shit on Americans". That's because one is a profession and the other an (online) opinion.
I don't think you realize how poorly most of the western world thinks about Americans. Obviously you're not all dicks, but the 'average American' has had a bad reputation for a long time. People like this with passionate disdain aren't uncommon.
Bad news travels fast. I've been to America a few times and everyone i meet was cool and sensible {except a TSA lady at LAX but YMMV) but the media outside America paints a picture of nothing but angry racist old people and a financial disparity that is almost binary. It can't actually be like that, you have stores and wine and boats and beaches but none of that makes good news. But pictures of rioters and billionaires getting upset because the government might tax them... That makes the news..
Except enough of them are angry racist assholes who did elect the main one. So while they are nice in small interactions with you, that doesn't mean that they want a comfortable and equitable America for everyone.
He did win, twice - so there are millions who do support him when he says and does deplorable stuff
Well I'm from a few countries over. We "only" have to worry about NATO falling apart and US big techbros' platforms influencing the political views of our people, but I have an idea about how you feel...
It's not, though. You don't go around assuming that diverse population groups are monolithically composed of their worst members and talking to them as such unless you're stupid fucking asshole.
I mean do yall blame every random Russian for Putin? Is every person in Turkey responsible for Erdogan? I only ever see this "omg you're all fucking trash" stuff about us.
There were Japanese who disagreed with Hirohito, and Germans who despised Hitler. They still bore the repercussions of their leaders actions by having their cities destroyed, and their children and grandchildren wore the scarlet letter of Nazi.
I blame all the people who voted for Trump, all the people who didn't vote against Trump and all the people who helped to legitimize the idea of not voting against Trump.
Also, if you think people are only blaming everyone in America for Trump, then you aren't paying any attention to the threads involving the Palestinian genocide.
Difference is, American influence is much larger than that of Russia or Turkey. The fact that half of em own guns and claim to "defend democracy and freedom" using those guns, yet Americans are gunned down by ICE daily. Home of the brave? Go and deal with the Tyrants, otherwise I'll keep refering to it as Home of the bullies.
I hate to break it to you, but by 2029 there will be such intense deep-seeded hatred of all things American, they'll be hundreds of millions of people all over the World that's not going to bother making the distinction between 'voted for Trump', 'voted for Harris', or even 'immigrated to their country before Trump was even elected the first time'.
Yes, as everyone in a tyranny, that isn't actively resisting, is guilty. Just like in Nazi Germany, genocidal Israel or Trumpistan. If you don't resist, you are part of the problem.
He threatened to cause a nuclear cascade event if anyone interfered in his illegal war of extermination. Something that would, without question, end humanity.
Anyone who hears that, and WOULDN'T attack him on sight is a traitor to all mankind, putting their bullshit above the survival of the human race. THEY heard it, and didn't care. So yes. As far as I'm concerned, anyone there who isn't rebelling is a lost cause.
Sure it's extreme, but we're talking about THE CONTINUED SURVIVAL OF HUMANITY.
Sounds like you should get on that, being part of humanity and all.
I really don't think Putin goes to see his public, anyway. Nobody would ever get the chance. A random Muscovite on the street has the same odds of going after Putin as you do.
The overwhelming majority of Russians are either entirely on board with the quest to "restore" a Russian empire against the will of the people of other nations, or don't care in the slightest and stay passive like they've always done.
Maybe it’s because you were always #1 and we kinda all looked up to you, but now the cats out of the bag. When you let profit and growth control everything, while denying free education and healthcare, you essentially put a paywall on critical thinking. By treating education as a luxury rather than a right, you’ve created a population that doesn't know any better. That systemic failure is exactly how you breed ignorance and end up with MAGA.
You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know, man. I hate all of that shit. What I don’t understand is why so many of you are eager to shit on the handful of us that agree with you.
Yes, especially here on imgur, people do blame every random Russian for putin. I made a post about how having no heat in December in russia is literally lethal and the comments I got were about not caring about Russians because of putin.
And to continue with the pile on... America is going into a downward spiral that is inevitable and can't be stopped, even if you elect Bernie's younger clone in 28
The entire Western world is disengaging from America and determined to not be reliant on such an unreliable partner Whose voters can never be trusted not to elect another Trump like figure
You're losing your scientists and researchers to other countries - goodbye technological edge
Because you guys are doing shit about it. If it was like that, a very opressed and SMALL minority, but its, in the most pesimistic stats, like 20% of the population. You know how much DAMAGE you could deal the orange fuck by just agreeing to stop 20% of people working for a day or a couple of them? He would think twice on doing ANY of the shit he is doing since it actually starts hitting his wallet.
This is so, so dumb. You think billionaires, with a b, can't withstand one single day or two of some people not working? Do you know the weekend exists?
As an openly trans woman who left the US with my wife and our kids, what exactly AM I supposed to go do? Fly in and get arrested immediately at the airport because my passport gender marker was changed but my name wasn't because Texas is a gigantic trump nut sucking shit hole and I can't change my name legally there?
It's one thing to ask your friends not to go into work in the EU where you aren't held as a wage slave. In the US they'll fire you on the spot and bam... Now you're double fucked.
Yeah everyone loves pointing this out but what exactly do you want me to do? Just call up everyone I know and tell them not to go to work? If I do that the only thing that will happen is a bunch of people will stop talking to me. I’m as frustrated as you are but I genuinely just don’t know what it is you think I should be doing.
You have my sympathies but unfortunately thats all you have. I warned about this while the election was still going on, I warned about it during Bidens years of doing fuck all to stop what was coming. When you make your internal problems into external ones whether through willful participation or inaction even if its inaction through fear; then you give up all rights to having a say in how the situation is resolved because you've made it someone else's problem. There were no doubt germans who 1/
Ah, yeah, I voted against him every chance I got, protested against him, and advocated to everyone i knew to vote against him, but sure, this is my fault. People like this can actively go fuck themselves with a rusty iron spike
Downvote me all you want, this guy is still a dumbfuck. He's happy to equate the minority that have put Trump in power with the people who have actively opposed and resisted him, and secure and comfortable enough in that ignorance to pre-emptively explain that they're all the same to him. Sounds pretty fucking Republican to me.
He decided on Venezuela by himself. He's supposed to get congress' approval, but instead he informed oil companies. By your logic, if your partner cheats on you, it's your fault
Then this message isn't for you. This message is for people who aren't doing what you're doing.
Please get whatever rest you can, and keep up the good fight. For everyone around you, and for those of us who aren't yet in danger. Thank you, sincerely.
Then keep up the good fight. Why are you taking offense personally at a broad comment on a whole nation? Generalisations will always be wrong on an individual level.
Russians are responsible for Putin. That doesn't mean I blame every Russian I meet for him. Same goes for America.
Ah, so the rest of the world should lie down and bite into the pillow when the US continues to ravage it?
I can't say Europeans are too happy with all the hostile actions against it, the US is an enemy nation now. But by all means, feel offended by generalised comments that get thrown around by Americans all the time.
Ah, so you think Americans are happy about it. We the people no longer have a fucking say. Every decision is up to five people in trumps inner circle and whoever forks over millions of dollars to bribe the corrupt fat fuck.
Because his stance is essentially the same as I was robbed by a black guy therefore all black people are bad. I take personal offense because I didn't rob the guy and he's acting as if I did
Counter argument: we must, as an international community, support each other in our collective struggles against tyranny because this affects all of us eventually. The responsibility is a shared one amongst us all.
Quit thinking in terms of how it's happened in Europe and look at American history. It's going to take one military force breaking ranks with the rest--might not be long before one or more National Guards is pitted against ICE, which would likely suffice--to provide a nucleus around which a rebellion could form.
Well the United States citizens have helped everyone else out in times of need so why not help us out? Y'all talk big until it's your necks on the chopping block
Dear rest of the world. You know how you're all scared of our military? Why do you think we can do more when the military is pointed at us, the civilians? Unless you're going to show up and prove we're "just lazy" shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. I have a pistol and no training. I would last all of one half of one second. I won't be killing myself by marching into that.
Ukrainians took back their government from Russian puppets with nothing but construction helmets, clubs, and their courage to make a stand. If you're not willing to fight for your democracy, than you deserve to lose it.
No difference in disparity from the rest of the dictatorships. It doesn't matter that the US military is by far the biggest, it's comparing civilians to a military regardless. You got here not in one year, not in 10, but far more. Inaction and apathy got you here, and it's killing people in other countries every day. It will kill countless more.
So yeah, we don't care how scared you are. We're scared too. What do you want US to do? Go quietly into the night?
Nah, you're just waiting for the rest of us to die first. Like always. But yeah, enjoy the boot I guess, that seems to be what you want. You want someone else to solve your problems, and reject any idea of what to do. Rather no action than any action, am I right?
And that's why we're trying to be as loud as we can about it. We don't know what it's going to take to move the general US citizenry to act, so we're doing the only thing we CAN do: speaking out.
2 assassination attempts, 2 impeachments, those are pretty much the legal and illegal nuclear options short of open rebellion, which as bad as things may look, I can't see that going well. So unless you have an actual suggestion stfu
General strike. No company can fire its entire work force, let alone a small percentage of it. The only stopping that is American Individualism. "Fuck You, I Got Mine". Too many of you are refusing to act because you think someone else will do it for you, or that your cost of living won't eventually rise high enough enough to leave you without a choice.
Do you think that'd make him step down? Idk and half the country voted for him so they wouldn't walk out and then I really doubt it'd work. Half us walk out, then what? The walkouts lose their jobs, everything is running half capacity and he's still here? I am selfish, I'm not rolling those dice.
You've got guns. Use them. And stop demanding foreigners come over there and show you how it's done. You're the ammosexual murder nation, put 1 and 1 together.
No you're not. Every time someone says this, and suggestions are given, the responses to those suggestions are always some variety of "but that's too haaard!"
Get 500 people on buses and swarm Maralago. Drone strike his convoy. Start by taking out his cabinet. Surround the white house for 10 blocks. Start throwing molotovs at ICE vehicles. Fucking anything at this point.
Try to remember that the president has the largest military and police force protecting him. No other nation in the world has even tried to overthrow our government in the past 250 years. You can't honestly expect people that have never even considered the true reality of a tyrannical government to build a rebellion capable of overthrowing this nightmare in under a year. I think most people are still in shock that it's even happening much less already rallying to action.
Just offer anyone willing to storm the Mars Lago 20% off a TV or air fryer. You would have a mob of tens of thousands breaking through the doors like Walmart on Black Friday.
A country bristling with weapons and trained veterans! You're always ready to defend anything. Stand your ground, open carry, nth amendment, and all that jazz. Now would be the time to actually put all that nonsense to use and defend the land of the free. Instead, you let yourselves be harassed by your ICE Gestapo and watch as your president plunges the World into the next world war and fills his pockets. Dear Americans, you are just loudmouths and when push comes to shove, true cowards.
For longer than I've been alive you people have been bloviating about straightup killing anyone who tried to do a fascism in america. If you people can't figure it out, and that asshole starts a war with us up in canada?
I'm not going to discriminate between friend or foe, because it was your peoples responsibility to fucking stop him ATLEAST ten years ago. It never needed to get this bad, and you are ALL to blame.
American spineless, fecklessness has reached a tipping point. I'm done with it.
You convince the GOP that he is a liability and not an asset. Not saying it’s easy. The goal isn't to change their minds; it's to change their math. Make the pain of keeping him greater than the fear of his base.
1: Oranize. Form the well regulated militia your 2nd amendment holds so dear 2: Fight.
It's as simple as that. Yes, this would mean a war, and people will perish. But your grandfathers and great grandfathers were willing to make this sacrifice back in the 40's. Now it's your turn. Prove tonthe world that we can trust you. If not, you cannot complain.
There is no bunker at Mar-a-Lago. He kept classified docs in the bathroom. Get a few thousand people down there and hang him at a gas station. I hear Chevron has a thing for him.
As justified as that might be, it wouldn't be that simple and, even if it were successful, it wouldn't solve the problem. All 3 branches have fallen and Trump would be replaced immediately by a smarter fascist with similar ambitions.
Vance (or whoever took Trump's place) would probably not command the same loyalty from the extremist base, but they wouldn't need to. Trump has already concentrated so much power into the presidency that they would really only need the oligarchs and sycophants support to hold onto power, and Trump's assassination would give them the justification and support they'd need to solidify that power.
That is a fair statement tbh. It still would be a test of fire. Just like the next presidential elections will be when he inevitably goes for a 3rd term.
America is the most difficult country in the world to take over and you're expecting a few thousand civilians to handle it. As if they won't mow us down and call us terrorists. There's not a single target we could take out that would stop them.
Honestly, if you're all so scared just get together and attack us yourselves. The combined might of several countries has to be better than a few dudes with rifles, right?
Or take a plane ride over here and handle things personally since it's so easy.
Fucking organize a multiple-day country wide general strike. Like I've been suggesting since the orange moron was elected. To us Europeans is BAFFLING how chill you are as that guy literally strips naked your democracy. You literally do your day to day like nothing is happening instead of properly organizing. Its kinda chilling to see happen in real time tbh.
And what would that do? Most of us will be out of money (starving and homeless) before anything happens as a result. And where has a general strike of the populace forced a leader to resign?
Most of you will be out of money starving and homeless either way after they're done with you. Us citizens that were poorer and in a more dire situation a hundred years ago have done what I'm suggesting. It really isn't as good of an excuse you think it is.
The vast majority of us live a distance of multiple European countries away from the Orange twat. So marching to the capital to strike is nearly impossible. And even if we all just decided to stop working tomorrow, striking in our individual cities and towns, there’s a frightening number of people who actively want him to keep doing what he’s doing, many of whom would actively obstruct those of us trying to stop these horrors. Not to mention the fear of law enforcement killing us.
Many say that. It's the problem, the capital is irrelevant. Big numbers and multitudes are great for news coverage. You aren't aiming at that. Neither were Americans a century ago, and they were in a way worse situation than the average today.
You do it because it's the only thing the assholes that are hurting you care about
A huge chunk of Americans (double digit %) get together to literally stay at home one or two days, and the the economy suffers in the billions. Remember covid? Like that
What do you think would happen? Trump would resign? You think the Republicans would impeach him? I think it would just make life shittier for those who already have the shittiest lives until they have to die or work
Definitely not, of course. And they are already doing the making shitty part already so... No changes there.
You are putting pressure on their government. You are making people that are undecided to take sides, and you are forcing g the moneybags to actually have to do something about it.
Doing fuckall like that, or get a couple thousand people here and there randomly everytime something bad happens... Does nothing but exactly what they want and expect of you
They still have internet. That's the lynchpin. They can be priced out of everything, be stuck homeless, starving and sick, and still be content enough to do nothing. You can take away their porn. They don't care, because they can still get on twitter and youtube.
That makes no sense. Look what a strike is, because I think you are thinking about people on the streets, which yes, but its about a massive percent of the population refusing to work to give a massive hit to the economy so the leaders (and people with money) shit their pants a bit.
You could literally contribute to it by staying at home (although ideally, you don't)
The minute you do that, you galvanize his base and create an even greater monster. Look at Kirk, he had 1/10 the pull and influence this orange shitbag has. People wanted to build shrines to the dickhead...
you're really not gonna like if the rest of the world gets together to fix your problem, a lot more civilians gonna die if you let it get to WW3, civil war 2 would just be a drop in that bucket
I politely disagree. I think the "getting there" part is very much the million dollar question. How does one depose a tyrant who controls the world's most powerful (and apparently, quite willing) military, and has the populace trapped in a brutal police state.
When gaddafi was cornered, and his bunker couldn't take any more hammering, he tried to flee the country in a military convoy. His victims grouped up in such large numbers, that the convoy couldn't even bowl through them. He was ripped out of his vehicle, torn literally limb from limb, and violated with a broom handle before death.
As a canadian, whose nation is at risk of being dragged into war? FUCK 'getting there the right way'. He is a threat to the world and it's AMERICAS JOB to stop him.
Yeah, the military being that willing was kind of a surprise for me too.. And he's not the real problem. He's the orange face of it. The entire system needs reform. The 2nd amendment could come in handy but the crazy guys with the guns are on his side too.. But from Europe i really really hope you guys can turn it around. You landed on the moon, you can overthrow this buffoon
Italy is a fucking ant compared to the US in terms of geographic size, and the motherfucker has private planes, military escorts, and secret service details in the modern age of digital spying and data collection..... Not exactly analogous to Mussolini.....
He realllllly didn't though, he was captured after trying to run to the border in disguise as a common soldier. No plane, no NSA surveillance, small geographic area for citizens to cover. Hitler is truly the best analog for Trump.
It doesn't matter how, it just has to get done. I only meant the public hanging part, but i dont care how he dies. I want his grave to become the #1 unisex bathroom.
Sprawling domestic surveillance network, jackboot thugs that ship residents to camps, zealot cult followers, large and industrialized military, and relatively vast expanse of land with which citizens would have to cover to get to him, and yet he had the logistical ability to evade any attempts by land, air, or sea.
Please remember other countries that are saying "just go get him," our police force, that has hundreds of cops in every city in the country, are better equipped than most countries' militaries. We have police departments that have literally tanks, armored vehicles, machine guns, drones, and explosives.
Of the 300 million, about 70 million are children, 70-80 million support trump, 1 million of them are police officers, 2-4 million are in the US military, 70 million couldn't be bothered to even vote let alone revolt, and the remaining 70 million are spread out across 4 million square miles of country
And? So, you are OK with it. Got it. This doesn't come as a surprise. It seems that Majority of americans are OK with this, murdering innocent etc.. It is what americans wanted.
So your suggestion is that I, a single citizen, get in my car with the $27 that is in my bank account, and drive the 4297 kilometers across the country, running out of gas and money along the way and what? Assassinate a few hundred people? You're a fucking moron.
You're likely to get shot by a cop in the US whether you do anything about your president or not. Might as well take someone with you when you go, since you'll go either way.
It sounds to me like a swift and decisive operation means the people have literal tanks, armoures vehicles, machine guns, drones and explosives. And I am assuming not all cops are pro Orange cheeto. There are more of the people than there are of the police. It might be scary, but I don't think the landing on Omaha was just a nice walk on the beach. You've tried being nice. Now try the othr way?
Even in a city with a large police force like Chicago, cops are outnumbered by citizens 200 to 1. You have the most civilian-owned guns in the world and 2A. Maybe its still early to go in shooting, but you still have time to prepare and organize. Also, civil disobedience can take many forms. Ghandi's people stopped paying taxes and boycotted businesses that supported the government, among other things.
Let's not forget that they only chose nonviolent resistance simply because they didn't have the numbers to fight back. Ghandi simply pushed for the logical choice- if they had enough manpower, he wouldn't have gone full pacifist.
FYI things started non-violent, but Ghandi's supporters absolutely went to town shortly after Ghandi and his crew were arrested by the British for inciting civil disobedience. They rioted for weeks and burned down thousands of rail stations, police stations, and post offices.
Makes sense. I just like to point out that ghandi was by no means a staunch pacifist like people think. He made a pragmatic decision. People always use him as an example when telling people to leave their abusers/oppressors/killers alone, and I'd rather nip that in the bud whenever I can.
It really is telling how few of you are scrappers of any kind. If you're letting them set up battle lines before something is done, you're doing it wrong.
Deploy the national guard. That will then give a structured, trained and resourced core for the (heavily armed) civilians to rally around and reinforce.
I am german. And literally for decades Americans bragged in front of me about how they would have handled Hitler aso. („Dead within two weeks“ was the most popular „solution“ btw.)
You put up barricades and set fire to police cars. He'll, the French do it when they try to raise the retirement age and you guys can't do it too stop ww3
People did that shit in 2020. It didn't move the needle an inch. In fact, it would have resulted in a massacre if it weren't for heroes like Gen. Milley who pushed back on Trump's desire to murder protesters. Those heroes are gone. The actions you prescribe will absolutely result in a slaughter if not a full-on pogrom on protesters and dissidents across the entire U.S.
It's absolutely ludicrous to compare French police (or any other police force) with the American police. French police are
BLM became a global movement. In Australia it brought the issue of deaths in custody to the fore again and resulted in changes to police procedures. It's cultural impact is well shown of you watch how tv like law and order completely changed their vibe. Did it stop police brutality? No. Did it wake up many white people? Absolutely. Would it result in slaughter? Probably. Do you get your country back without that anyway? Probably not.
Oh yeah, US Police do not think like that. They think: "we're here to stop the bad guys, and that's anyone that doesn't agree with and listen to us. We gotta make people behave!"
Unfortunately for them the longer they wait the more likely it becomes "go kill yourself". This is why you need to be doing the peaceful protesting *PRO*-actively, not *RE*-actively.
You haven't even tried nonviolent actions. But all Americans can think of are murder. American exceptionalism is keeping you so far under the boot.
Where's the general strike? Where are the nationwide protests shutting everything down? The riots, the political action and organisation?
That's right, nobody cares enough. "We can't or we get fired!". You think people that protested in other countries had it kushty when they did it? What a fucking joke
Then people are like "but we cannot afford to do strikes, shutdowns, and protests. Joe Shmoe is struggling to get by". If Africans and Ecuadorians and Venezuelans could do it at the worst of their economy, surely you can.
The problem is bread & circuses. Americans have it too good, they are fed, cared for, and entertained. But they're at the same time pushed down enough that they think political action won't do anything.
No. Its another "Americans, please fix your country, because you're making the rest if the world unsafe" post. I love the american dream, but this isn't it.
More accurately, it's a "Dear americans, you do realize we canadians are notorious for creating whole new war crimes when we're forced to fight, right? Stop this crap before we're dragged into open conflict" post.
It's especially notable because you all are to blame if it gets that bad.
Nobody is killing you yet, but this post irritates me enough that a small part of me hopes that maybe you fuckers posting that nobody did anything and lumping is on with MAGA get yours.
100%, I remember it clear as day, I also remember when the worm turned and Americans began cheering every Russian death because "they're all complicit".
Oh fuck off with that. This is a "Dear Americans, you have shit your pants so violently that it is beginning to spray onto neighbors. You need to literally get your shit together."
Then in that case, if you wont do something about it, shut the fuck up and live with the fascism you're enabling with your pacivity. Get fucked, sincerely the restvif the world.
Thanks, I'll let my little boy know that mommy is going to go get arrested/killed on the streets because some stranger on the internet said i should. Thank you.
In the US we call this "armchair quarterbacking." It's when some guy safe and cozy on his couch thinks he could do better than the guys on the field actually in the midst of it.
Very easy to say stuff like that from far away and without any risk to life, limb, or freedom.
Shat pants or its splatter arent life threatening, self serving false equivalency arguments arent very compelling. Have the nuts to say "yeah, get to bleeding"
Okay, "Dear Americans, your war-mongering government has been murdering people overseas for DECADES. Even your *Nicest* president sent drones to kill people in a war started by their political opponents. You *should've* been peacefully protesting en masse a LONG time ago so as to PREVENT the given situation. The longer you hold out, the more people will die. The longer you hold out, the more your government will take from you. It is your collective inaction that has brought you here."
Yeah true cool, should we also tell the people of the countries that are connected at the hip with our MIC to work on their own collective inaction or are the only ones in need of collective actions?
Your country IS the problem right now. Americans doing that would be heartlessly hypocritical. You can do that when you're done though, if you really want to.
Nah, stay on your high horse while shitting on the people trying to fix it. If I start voting the other way, you guys get to experience what we're going through and misery loves company, bitch ass cunt.
Actually you get to experience what its like to try and invade europe without any allies with the nearest base being an entire ocean away and your command staff being selected entirely based on political allegiance not skill. Takes a lot more than a big budget and some fancy tech to make an army son and as a british officer I cordially invite you to put that theory of yours to the test.
Nah, the solution from international imgur is anything from assassinations to riots in the streets, but without any consideration that if the world's largest economy tanks, they'll have a lot bigger issues than Orange Hitler, who will be gone in a few years one way or another.
So yeah, we're fucking working on it. Shit's fucked, but that's not a reason to burn the house down while we're still inside it.
Oh no. The Economy. The thing they're murdering people to prop up in the first place. Fuck, that would suck so hard if the demon they're sacrificing you to went away.
The people who benefit from The Economy, the ones whose livelihood would be most greatly affected, are the people doing The Bad Stuff. For the rest of us, we'll make due with what we're left with. It will be enough.
Exactly what's happening without the US being in a civil war? Dont know what exactly you're trying to get at there because Trump has outlined how he views the world; spheres of influence, and as far as hes concerned that means China gets Asia, Russia gets europe and he gets the Americas.
It doesnt matter what we'd do, thats an irrelevant attempt at a "gotcha". It isnt happening in our countries, if it does then we'll talk, but until then this is all on you guys and its you, the average american citizen who will bare the consequences whether you act or not.
Consider Dresden, im sure there were people who didnt like Nazism in that city. Im sure there were people who opposed imperialism in Tokyo or Hiroshima. It didnt matter in the end, because their opinions were silent and it 1/
Didnt keep them safe did it?. You know why? Because when a nation fails to handle its internal problems and they become external ones, they surrender any say in how they get resolved. Once you make your problem someone else's business, you may not like how they choose to fix it.
You might get lucky, maybe, but you've got a choice between crossing your fingers and hoping when the bombs fall or taking action now, maybe losing it all, but knowing you did the right thing and spared others the 2/
Pain and suffering being unleashed in the US, or at least trying to. If both roads lead to likely death then isnt the obvious answer to do the right thing and hope something somewhere rewards you for that?.
Im a soldier, its easy for me to say, hard to do, but as trite as it may sound; nothing worth doing is easy and it isnt up to us to hold your hand or try to save you, its up to you to stop us from having to solve your problem for you. 3
The "gotcha" is attempting to point out to you that individual poor Americans don't have power over billionaires, and aggressively blaming them for not somehow fixing an imperialist fascist country themselves is unreasonable. Even you yourself dont have a plan for what we could do, because you clearly haven't put much thought into this.
I dont need to put any thought into it because its not my country. Here's what happens when it becomes "my problem", as an officer in the British army, every American who threatens my home or my allies is a target. I wont ask who you voted for, I wont show you any mercy because we used to be friends, I'll defend my nation if it means killing every single person in yours. Is that clear enough for you?, so dont make it my problem, fix it yourselves.
Hypothetically speaking? I have no clue what I'd be doing. But like, Not Hypothetically speaking? Your country is fucked unless your populace fights back against your government. So regardless of what I or any other non-US citizen "would" or "would not" be doing, you *actual* US citizens need to step the fuck up.
Yeah? Where the fuck would you go if you lived in(pick any state) you gonna drive 30 hours to Minneapolis from and West or East Coast state? The US is fucking massive. You wouldn't do shit because you still have on your head that somehow Americans live around each other.
its more of theres nothing we can do beyond minor things that ultimately do nothing, we're watching and thinking just like everyone else with common sense.
its like that analogy that gets posted every so often, we're just kids in the car while the parents are drunk and fighting driving at high speed, dafuq we suppose to do? we can complain, we'll get beat, we can try to talk, we'll get punished. You going to blame kids in the car for doing nothing to stop a car crash? got it.
I don't agree with the metaphor. If you've resigned yourselves to be as powerless as children in that situation, I don't know what to tell you. Why isn't there a general strike happening right now? It's happening in Iran (the same country that Trump wants to "help"). Are you all not quite ready to do that yet? If not now, when?
That's not where the rest of the world is coming from. We're not judging you, we're saying fucking DO something (anything) b/c the rest of the world is extremely concerned. Unfortunately, whatever y'all do affects us all.
one; fuck this particular dude come live here and go through it. and 2. no shit now go lecture every central, south american, asian and african country run by a drug cartel or warlord or ACUTAL commies ya cunt.
I don't know what world you're living in (an American one obviously, judging by that deluded "commies" comment...) but the people of those countries are *constantly* fighting back
Bro literally all those other places you mentioned exist BECAUSE OF the US. The whole destabilizing/decapitating thing that we just did in Venezuela? Yea, that's kind of our calling card.
Aye aye, europe has its hands in some of that mess too. Specifically africa, asia and the middle east or through their economic benefits of being part of our MIC! Its almost like the us mirriored its ancestors! Lets not be greedy.
We are up against a maniac with a trillion dollar military / radicalized police force full of incompetent psychopaths, a huge geographical area which makes large scale disruption/ organization near impossible, an oppressive system doing its job to keep us isolated and distracted with feeding our families, drowning in medical debts, no safety nets, on top of all that their plan is trying to bait us into violence / disruption so that he can declare martial law and suspend elections indefinitely
Not saying we have given up by any means but I think in a moment like this restraint and careful calculation is what is called for rather than falling for their traps
The thing is, ANY OTHER NATION he attacks will be up against the same, all because you people refuse to act. That puts you firmly on their shitlist. Because it didn't need to get this ridiculously dire.
The world is panicking because we CAN'T act, but Americans CAN and too many of you are refusing to. It's gonna be real fuckin' loud for any US citizen with access to social media and a guilty conscience. I suggest figuring out which one's easier to ditch and doing so.
It's real easy to say this when you can get from your house to the capital of your country on a bicycle. What do you expect poor people in Nebraska to realistically do?
So, there's this thing called Population Density, and it tends to increase the closer you are to Important Stuff. There's also these things called State Capitals which hold the government buildings of your local representatives.
"What do you expect people in Nebraska to do?" is the wrong question. What can the 8,000,000 people of New York do? What can the 4,000,000 people within driving distance of Frankfurt, Kentucky do? And really, what can the 700,000 people in Washington DC do?
That's not really exceptionalism. It simply is a fact that it's harder to effect change the further you are physically from your center of government, and America is a lot bigger than most countries and really shit when it comes to public transportation.
Oh yeah, let's all quit our jobs, leave our elderly and disabled family we're caring for (because we don't have free healthcare) to die, and drive for several days to get to Washington D.C. And let's not worry about the fact that we're all in poverty and can't afford the gas needed to get there, the fact that this convoy would be noticed and the feds would have a fucking week to prepare for us, and the fact that we don't have a supply line and would have to disperse for food after three days.
No, the person above didn't say that we shouldn't have allowed this to happen. I would agree with that statement. What he said was that we aren't doing enough to fix it. That's kind of the problem with a huge country like this. A lot of people live so far away from their leaders (both political and economic) that they literally cannot do anything to actually effect change outside of utilizing the systems set up by the very leaders they're trying to oust. Also, fuck you too.
Nah, you're just too americawashed. This is the whole point of community, unions, organisations. To organise. But you've elected not to. So lie in the bed you've made.
morninggloryshade777
Many of us have been screaming this for a very loooong time!!! We are shocked by the lack of action! Much like many were when the Nazis grabbed power. More folks are realizing how goddawful T/ they are but changing the direction is a huge job. And the longer the FASCISTS remain in their stolen power, the longer it will take & the harder it wb to UNDO it:(
Fauxcused0214
The same simplistic mentality that lumps all Americans together is the same simplistic mentality found in the bigots who elected the empty headed Cheeto.
etherbunny41
There are absolutely exceptions to what this guy is saying, but this message isn't FOR them. It's for the people who need to get up and help the people who ARE protesting.
OfficialTrollInspector
Listen.
If anyone here has a plan on how to do something about that man,
they will not be sharing it with you over the internet.
That shit is need-to-know basis.
FractalShoggoth
For real. Starting to wonder if all these people shouting at the U.S. aren't feds trying to gather intel.
etherbunny41
And until someone *enacts* a plan, we can't assume that people are already on it. In the meantime you'd probably be best staying off social media of any kind so you don't have to worry about people bitching at you for not doing anything.
FractalShoggoth
The bitchers are a distinct minority. They're not important, and never will be.
staceyjorgenson31415
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idrinkcheapbeer
I can arm myself and leroy jenkins myself into an ICE formation. I will be killed and will be forgotten in a week. we really want to do something but we can't do it alone. scheduled protests are absolute nonsense "hey, next weekend when you arent working, come on out and support us!" like its a muscular dystrophy walk. people are so concerned with food, rent, mortgages, tuition that they arent eager to upset the applecart. we are really fucked and it's been decades of planning that put us here
etherbunny41
You're not being asked to Leroy Jenkins yourself, you're being asked to act as a collective, like you've recently seen other countries do. It is possible for you to work together. American Individualism makes it a lot harder to think that way, but it is absolutely within the capabilities of your society. The cost of living is on a steep climb. Pretty soon you're not going to have to worry about affording all those things; instead you'll Know that you simply can't. What then? And why not sooner?
idrinkcheapbeer
If it can be scheduled in-between pilates and soccer practice.
etherbunny41
You don't need to answer these questions, but I'm still going to ask them.
Where do you live? How big is your neighborhood? How far are you from your state capital? Have you tried asking your neighbors how they feel about all this? Have you asked them if they'd be willing to maybe skip the hypothetical "pilates and soccer practice" to maybe do something more important than that?
idrinkcheapbeer
I've done all of this and more. I've been involved top to bottom for a decade. People will need to get hungry, really hungry for any kind of change. And thats the point of what is going on. When we are too physically weak to respond, that's the end goal. I'm sorry if I seem bitter but I can't not see what I am seeing.
etherbunny41
Then you're not the people this message is for. Put down the imgur, get some sleep, and keep doing what you can.
Deadflower394857
Acting as a collective is not exactly a simple task. This requires organization, logistics, administrative work. We are not a hive mind.
etherbunny41
Especially for people with socially heightened individualism. These messages aren't for the people who are already doing what needs to be done. These messages are for the people who haven't joined the cause yet.
tjinme
An attack on one is an attack on all. Invoke article 5.
IHateItH3r3
This is victim blaming and this type of rhetoric does nothing to fix the problem. I know people are scared and angry, and I’m sure it makes you feel better to blame everyone else. The horrid behaviors we are seeing happen everywhere and its on all of us to stop it.
etherbunny41
The victims are the ones killed, injured, kidnapped, or otherwise directly harmed by the actions of the abuser.
The rest of you are bystanders. It is up to you to collectively step in and protect those who can't protect themselves to prevent there from being MORE victims than there already are.
ElleW1988
And you all are going to create some kind of fund so we can afford to eat while we protest or engage in cyber attacks that contribute to the destabilization so we can be successful right? Its a digital world. We don't have to do this alone. But y'all would rather point fingers. We are protesting. And people are dying. The news isn't reporting on it. Its a fucking shit show out there.
etherbunny41
An excellent idea! Exchange rates and logistics of how it would all be distributed considering border issues and tariffs and what not complicates things a lot, though. Probably wouldn't be worth it for people outside the country to do it...
... oh hey, why don't YOU do it? Go around to people of your neighborhood and spread the word. People within reach of the problem can help out a whole lot easier than us folks way out here. Good thinking though! Now you have something you can Do!
ElleW1988
I have probably done a lot more than the average fucking person and I'm fucking tired of keyboard warriors telling us we are doing nothing. Its not noble or smart to line up to get shot in the street. We need resources and tactics and those things take time to organize. And what part of media blackout don't you understand.
etherbunny41
Then you're not the people this message is for. Put down the imgur (it's clearly not good for your psyche), get whatever sleep you can, and keep doing what you can.
ButTheyWereAllBad
Exactly this. Those who aren't rich cannot afford to miss work to join protests. They need to keep their jobs so they can feed and provide the basic care for their family. I agree that we need to collectively join together to protest AND supply support for those who need it during these times.
etherbunny41
Those who aren't rich should've been out peacefully protesting when they COULD afford to. The best time to protest was yesterday; second best time to protest is today. Keep waiting and the cost of living will increase until you don't have a choice.
TheBloodyLady
Those who aren't rich have lived scraping by for most of their lives. The system is working as intended to keep us all too close to starvation and homelessness to convince people to stand up for themselves. That and decades of propaganda.
ClessAurion
Your grandfathers did general strikes 100 years ago when things were way worse than now. What is your excuse exactly?
AllSeeingAvalin
Lack of unions
getting fired for trying to start unions
fired for talking about unions
general mistrust of unions due to 100 years of media campaigns
no savings
no support
no sympathy from neighbors
having bill
needing to eat
needing to feed our kids/pets
fear of retaliation
fear of imprisonment
fear of being shot
lack of leadership
lack of organization
lack of knowledge on how to build leadership
sickness
And a well armored rouge police thats willing to kill.
Just to name a few issues
etherbunny41
Do you honestly think a company can afford to fire its entire work force if they decide to collectively not show up to work? How many of them do you think they can safely get rid of and replace within, oh... let's say a month?
You don't need the black feather. You've always had the power to fly. You just have to realize it.
ClessAurion
Very good arguments. And people fought for that to not be the case... Yet here we are again.
It was the same if not worse at the start of last century. Yet people created unions and did all those things. Repercusión free? No, people bled. More will if you don't start organizing now
Arkandos
People started unions back when they shot union workers. What's your excuse now?
TheLastGreatAudit
We will. Look, Americans always do the right thing... just as soon as we've exhausted all other options.
etherbunny41
Exactly this. The whole "Fuck You, I Got Mine" mentality means that most Americans aren't willing to fight for their neighbors. There should have been massive protests YEARS ago, and the fucked up thing is that if you go back far enough you'll see there WERE protests... but they stopped, for some reason. We had a World War II, why not a Million Man March II?
LaffertyDanie1
If you're suggesting a coup you might want to think through some of the possible international ramifications, besides how poorly it could go for us. If we have to fully retreat from the world stage to deal with that, what happens in Taiwan? Would Putin go nuclear? We've given netanyahu a long leash but what about no leash? I don't know but it certainly could be very very bad
swephisto
stevelepastis
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1djNvdXNnbGhhOGV4MjZhc3lseGF3MXZhd2dxdjZwNHQwdWV3ZXVleiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6cFcUiCG5eONW/200w.webp
Them3OtherGuys
There isn't going to be a revolution. We're a nation of dopamine addicts that's been spoonfed bullshit from the Right AND Left for generations that we're better than every other country in the world, and that we have this magically self-correcting system of government. Take your Soma and let Someone Else™ deal with the real problems.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
From the right and the even further right.
There is no left in America. The voice of the left has been systematically silenced and demonized for decades, almost a century by this point.
InfocalypseRising
This guy's profile claims he's a software guy working at a Danish TV station, but his ENTIRE feed is just shitting on Americans. Really feels like troll farm rage bait.
CptnApplesauce
Maybe Americans should actually do something then jah
Schrefu
Buddy, there's no contradiction, the "but" is misplaced. You can totally be a "software guy at a Danish TV station" AND "just shit on Americans". That's because one is a profession and the other an (online) opinion.
goonislovegoonislife
I don't think you realize how poorly most of the western world thinks about Americans. Obviously you're not all dicks, but the 'average American' has had a bad reputation for a long time. People like this with passionate disdain aren't uncommon.
mycoffeeartjourney
Bad news travels fast. I've been to America a few times and everyone i meet was cool and sensible {except a TSA lady at LAX but YMMV) but the media outside America paints a picture of nothing but angry racist old people and a financial disparity that is almost binary. It can't actually be like that, you have stores and wine and boats and beaches but none of that makes good news. But pictures of rioters and billionaires getting upset because the government might tax them... That makes the news..
justiPumpkinTaker
Except enough of them are angry racist assholes who did elect the main one. So while they are nice in small interactions with you, that doesn't mean that they want a comfortable and equitable America for everyone.
He did win, twice - so there are millions who do support him when he says and does deplorable stuff
Baconlovesyoutoo
It's an interesting approach to insult every American and then demand we take action for his benefit. Kinda Trumpish TBH.
MeMonty
It is your responsibility though
TheRedBaron8
Yea, but he is not wrong!
kInADress
Gee I wonder why a person from Denmark would have negative feelings towards the US in 2026...
waznewz
Yeah as a Danish guy i think i understand...
kInADress
Well I'm from a few countries over. We "only" have to worry about NATO falling apart and US big techbros' platforms influencing the political views of our people, but I have an idea about how you feel...
neddyhill
Or maybe he just really doesn't like Americans. Which is understandable.
Deadflower394857
Understandable, yet dumb and pathetic
Blud4BludGod
It's not, though. You don't go around assuming that diverse population groups are monolithically composed of their worst members and talking to them as such unless you're stupid fucking asshole.
lickwidghost
MAGA and Fox would like a word...
InfocalypseRising
I mean do yall blame every random Russian for Putin? Is every person in Turkey responsible for Erdogan? I only ever see this "omg you're all fucking trash" stuff about us.
Zyankali
Yes
BreakingHeadlines
There were Japanese who disagreed with Hirohito, and Germans who despised Hitler. They still bore the repercussions of their leaders actions by having their cities destroyed, and their children and grandchildren wore the scarlet letter of Nazi.
c0i9z
I blame all the people who voted for Trump, all the people who didn't vote against Trump and all the people who helped to legitimize the idea of not voting against Trump.
InfocalypseRising
Okay, well, I didn’t do any of those things but this comment thread is still happy to heap all the blame on me personally
EroticZombiePants
Also, if you think people are only blaming everyone in America for Trump, then you aren't paying any attention to the threads involving the Palestinian genocide.
EhhSpoofy
Difference is, American influence is much larger than that of Russia or Turkey. The fact that half of em own guns and claim to "defend democracy and freedom" using those guns, yet Americans are gunned down by ICE daily. Home of the brave? Go and deal with the Tyrants, otherwise I'll keep refering to it as Home of the bullies.
EroticZombiePants
I hate to break it to you, but by 2029 there will be such intense deep-seeded hatred of all things American, they'll be hundreds of millions of people all over the World that's not going to bother making the distinction between 'voted for Trump', 'voted for Harris', or even 'immigrated to their country before Trump was even elected the first time'.
If you don't think that's going to happen ... https://news.rakwa.com/2025/08/07/islamophobia-in-america-2025-are-muslims-still-facing-racism/
SlaaneshiRightsFront
I mean, it's not like Americans were well regarded before this. And then you elected this douchenozzle. And then you fucking did it AGAIN.
PolitiCat
Yes, as everyone in a tyranny, that isn't actively resisting, is guilty. Just like in Nazi Germany, genocidal Israel or Trumpistan.
If you don't resist, you are part of the problem.
NonstopRampage
He threatened to cause a nuclear cascade event if anyone interfered in his illegal war of extermination. Something that would, without question, end humanity.
Anyone who hears that, and WOULDN'T attack him on sight is a traitor to all mankind, putting their bullshit above the survival of the human race. THEY heard it, and didn't care. So yes. As far as I'm concerned, anyone there who isn't rebelling is a lost cause.
Sure it's extreme, but we're talking about THE CONTINUED SURVIVAL OF HUMANITY.
DukeDarkwood
Sounds like you should get on that, being part of humanity and all.
I really don't think Putin goes to see his public, anyway. Nobody would ever get the chance. A random Muscovite on the street has the same odds of going after Putin as you do.
DrunkGermanGuy
The overwhelming majority of Russians are either entirely on board with the quest to "restore" a Russian empire against the will of the people of other nations, or don't care in the slightest and stay passive like they've always done.
georgeousviking89
Maybe it’s because you were always #1 and we kinda all looked up to you, but now the cats out of the bag. When you let profit and growth control everything, while denying free education and healthcare, you essentially put a paywall on critical thinking. By treating education as a luxury rather than a right, you’ve created a population that doesn't know any better. That systemic failure is exactly how you breed ignorance and end up with MAGA.
InfocalypseRising
You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know, man. I hate all of that shit. What I don’t understand is why so many of you are eager to shit on the handful of us that agree with you.
georgeousviking89
Yeah that is lame to do, its not your fault
Pandabear71
Putin elects himself. Trump was voted in by a majority.
Huge difference
SuperfluousMeh
Yes, especially here on imgur, people do blame every random Russian for putin. I made a post about how having no heat in December in russia is literally lethal and the comments I got were about not caring about Russians because of putin.
casbott
And to continue with the pile on...

America is going into a downward spiral that is inevitable and can't be stopped, even if you elect Bernie's younger clone in 28
The entire Western world is disengaging from America and determined to not be reliant on such an unreliable partner
Whose voters can never be trusted not to elect another Trump like figure
You're losing your scientists and researchers to other countries - goodbye technological edge
ClessAurion
Because you guys are doing shit about it. If it was like that, a very opressed and SMALL minority, but its, in the most pesimistic stats, like 20% of the population. You know how much DAMAGE you could deal the orange fuck by just agreeing to stop 20% of people working for a day or a couple of them?
He would think twice on doing ANY of the shit he is doing since it actually starts hitting his wallet.
Deadflower394857
This is so, so dumb. You think billionaires, with a b, can't withstand one single day or two of some people not working? Do you know the weekend exists?
TrumpRapesChildren
As an openly trans woman who left the US with my wife and our kids, what exactly AM I supposed to go do? Fly in and get arrested immediately at the airport because my passport gender marker was changed but my name wasn't because Texas is a gigantic trump nut sucking shit hole and I can't change my name legally there?
It's one thing to ask your friends not to go into work in the EU where you aren't held as a wage slave. In the US they'll fire you on the spot and bam... Now you're double fucked.
ClessAurion
I mean... I'd argue my comment excludes most if not all people that aren't in the US.
But yeah, we agree on that.
InfocalypseRising
Yeah everyone loves pointing this out but what exactly do you want me to do? Just call up everyone I know and tell them not to go to work? If I do that the only thing that will happen is a bunch of people will stop talking to me. I’m as frustrated as you are but I genuinely just don’t know what it is you think I should be doing.
FrancsTireur
You have my sympathies but unfortunately thats all you have. I warned about this while the election was still going on, I warned about it during Bidens years of doing fuck all to stop what was coming. When you make your internal problems into external ones whether through willful participation or inaction even if its inaction through fear; then you give up all rights to having a say in how the situation is resolved because you've made it someone else's problem. There were no doubt germans who 1/
nlky
I mean, calling up people you know is a pretty good idea.
NonstopRampage
Standing up to evil en masse always starts with one person.
iamdeathnote
Ah, yeah, I voted against him every chance I got, protested against him, and advocated to everyone i knew to vote against him, but sure, this is my fault. People like this can actively go fuck themselves with a rusty iron spike
Blud4BludGod
I generally assume that if people saying shit like this lived in the US, they'd be Republicans.
Blud4BludGod
Downvote me all you want, this guy is still a dumbfuck. He's happy to equate the minority that have put Trump in power with the people who have actively opposed and resisted him, and secure and comfortable enough in that ignorance to pre-emptively explain that they're all the same to him. Sounds pretty fucking Republican to me.
NonstopRampage
If he starts a war with his neighbors, clearly none of you did enough. You all will be to blame, and those he attacks will take exception to that.
iamdeathnote
He decided on Venezuela by himself. He's supposed to get congress' approval, but instead he informed oil companies. By your logic, if your partner cheats on you, it's your fault
etherbunny41
Then this message isn't for you. This message is for people who aren't doing what you're doing.
Please get whatever rest you can, and keep up the good fight. For everyone around you, and for those of us who aren't yet in danger. Thank you, sincerely.
Deadflower394857
This Lykke guy is not in our side, stop defending him. He's an idiot troll spreading ignorant hate.
Arkandos
Then keep up the good fight. Why are you taking offense personally at a broad comment on a whole nation? Generalisations will always be wrong on an individual level.
Russians are responsible for Putin. That doesn't mean I blame every Russian I meet for him. Same goes for America.
iamdeathnote
If you can't understand how it's offensive, I would personally suggest some therapy
Arkandos
Ah, so the rest of the world should lie down and bite into the pillow when the US continues to ravage it?
I can't say Europeans are too happy with all the hostile actions against it, the US is an enemy nation now. But by all means, feel offended by generalised comments that get thrown around by Americans all the time.
iamdeathnote
Ah, so you think Americans are happy about it. We the people no longer have a fucking say. Every decision is up to five people in trumps inner circle and whoever forks over millions of dollars to bribe the corrupt fat fuck.
Arkandos
Then start organising against it. The best time was yesterday, the second best time is today.
ChodeChodington
Because his stance is essentially the same as I was robbed by a black guy therefore all black people are bad. I take personal offense because I didn't rob the guy and he's acting as if I did
Deadflower394857
Counter argument: we must, as an international community, support each other in our collective struggles against tyranny because this affects all of us eventually. The responsibility is a shared one amongst us all.
slightlybrokenegg
I wander if anyone ever told a Jew this in 1930s Germany
maday1br
Quit thinking in terms of how it's happened in Europe and look at American history. It's going to take one military force breaking ranks with the rest--might not be long before one or more National Guards is pitted against ICE, which would likely suffice--to provide a nucleus around which a rebellion could form.
Becker37
Well the United States citizens have helped everyone else out in times of need so why not help us out? Y'all talk big until it's your necks on the chopping block
Donaldbain
You do know you can stuff a couple penguins in a trench coat and let them get kidnapped instead? Trump won't know the difference.
Nanananahatman
So send your special forces to fucking assassinate him already. They'd have a better shot at it than we would
SolarJoel
I'm open to suggestions for methods and technique.
HappyTimeHollis
General strike. Protests that don't stop until there is a regime change.
Deadflower394857
Short answer: mutual aid. Long answer: send me a DM I'll explain more.
somebackup
That guy gets it. The fact he isn't dead yet is a clear sign that America has collapsed
khaoselement
Dear rest of the world. You know how you're all scared of our military? Why do you think we can do more when the military is pointed at us, the civilians? Unless you're going to show up and prove we're "just lazy" shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. I have a pistol and no training. I would last all of one half of one second. I won't be killing myself by marching into that.
TheWarHymn
Ukrainians took back their government from Russian puppets with nothing but construction helmets, clubs, and their courage to make a stand. If you're not willing to fight for your democracy, than you deserve to lose it.
Arkandos
No difference in disparity from the rest of the dictatorships. It doesn't matter that the US military is by far the biggest, it's comparing civilians to a military regardless. You got here not in one year, not in 10, but far more. Inaction and apathy got you here, and it's killing people in other countries every day. It will kill countless more.
So yeah, we don't care how scared you are. We're scared too. What do you want US to do? Go quietly into the night?
khaoselement
Oh man, thanks for backing up my point. Whole lot of you sitting on your ass doing nothing but asking us to kill ourselves. Go fuck yourself.
etherbunny41
You're gonna get fucked way before any of us are, whether or not you fight.
Arkandos
Nah, you're just waiting for the rest of us to die first. Like always. But yeah, enjoy the boot I guess, that seems to be what you want. You want someone else to solve your problems, and reject any idea of what to do. Rather no action than any action, am I right?
youreathing
They'll protest and the opposition will make strongly worded statements on social media. Aside from that, they'll let him run amok.
etherbunny41
And that's why we're trying to be as loud as we can about it. We don't know what it's going to take to move the general US citizenry to act, so we're doing the only thing we CAN do: speaking out.
jackal696
Then you need new leaders, make a new party if you have to
LaffertyDanie1
2 assassination attempts, 2 impeachments, those are pretty much the legal and illegal nuclear options short of open rebellion, which as bad as things may look, I can't see that going well. So unless you have an actual suggestion stfu
etherbunny41
General strike. No company can fire its entire work force, let alone a small percentage of it. The only stopping that is American Individualism. "Fuck You, I Got Mine". Too many of you are refusing to act because you think someone else will do it for you, or that your cost of living won't eventually rise high enough enough to leave you without a choice.
LaffertyDanie1
Do you think that'd make him step down? Idk and half the country voted for him so they wouldn't walk out and then I really doubt it'd work. Half us walk out, then what? The walkouts lose their jobs, everything is running half capacity and he's still here? I am selfish, I'm not rolling those dice.
rubypilgrim
This Greenlander is right. We have to earn trust.
andexer
We're taking suggestions
TwiceK
Be a hero.
NicronusPrime
You've got guns. Use them. And stop demanding foreigners come over there and show you how it's done. You're the ammosexual murder nation, put 1 and 1 together.
keroko
No you're not. Every time someone says this, and suggestions are given, the responses to those suggestions are always some variety of "but that's too haaard!"
onepinksheep
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MXZ2c253em95aWdlNmdveTZobXcxMWxybzdsM3QwOW1pejVvazYwZCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/12gxeCI1BGKAj6/200w.webp
Cbouch4rd
Get 500 people on buses and swarm Maralago. Drone strike his convoy. Start by taking out his cabinet. Surround the white house for 10 blocks. Start throwing molotovs at ICE vehicles. Fucking anything at this point.
frosss
Try to remember that the president has the largest military and police force protecting him. No other nation in the world has even tried to overthrow our government in the past 250 years. You can't honestly expect people that have never even considered the true reality of a tyrannical government to build a rebellion capable of overthrowing this nightmare in under a year. I think most people are still in shock that it's even happening much less already rallying to action.
TheWarHymn
Just offer anyone willing to storm the Mars Lago 20% off a TV or air fryer. You would have a mob of tens of thousands breaking through the doors like Walmart on Black Friday.
qcernie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnE15v4Gets
weissse
A country bristling with weapons and trained veterans! You're always ready to defend anything. Stand your ground, open carry, nth amendment, and all that jazz. Now would be the time to actually put all that nonsense to use and defend the land of the free. Instead, you let yourselves be harassed by your ICE Gestapo and watch as your president plunges the World into the next world war and fills his pockets. Dear Americans, you are just loudmouths and when push comes to shove, true cowards.
dogmatix
Do You Not Have Guns?
Bundalicious
You know what needs to be done. Power in numbers.
Defcon2
NonstopRampage
For longer than I've been alive you people have been bloviating about straightup killing anyone who tried to do a fascism in america. If you people can't figure it out, and that asshole starts a war with us up in canada?
I'm not going to discriminate between friend or foe, because it was your peoples responsibility to fucking stop him ATLEAST ten years ago. It never needed to get this bad, and you are ALL to blame.
American spineless, fecklessness has reached a tipping point. I'm done with it.
AtmaDarkwolf
*Gestures to history and the end of every other fascist* Take a fucking pick and STAND THE FUCK UP Already!
Dyamonde
"Euromaidan 2013", there's your suggestion
TheWarHymn
JimJim11
I mean, do you see what Iran is doing? Or does your lord not allow you to see that stuff?
tyllathine
It's called a general strike. Stockpile supplies for a month, then grind the economy to a halt.
SavageDrums
There are more guns than people in America.
This is exactly the reason you guys always gave for that.
rzlprnft
Start with a French haircut
smittyatyou
Bullet.
NonstopRampage
RagtimeBetty
See: Civil War (2024),
Bundalicious
Exactly!!!! He completely deserves the ending to that.
MmmYesShallowAndPedantic
eathotdog
But what abkut my 401k?
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
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TsubakiTragic
Every government and authority on this planet fears one thing and one thing only. The Lone Wolf... especially when there are many of them.
Dracology
Honestly pretty sure the Danish PM has a lot more options to solve things than most of us do.
doctorId
BananaForScaIe
I mean, taking suggestions and acting on them are different.
JasonFndrbrkr
Where is Anonymous ?
NonstopRampage
Nobody knows- they're anonymous.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
You convince the GOP that he is a liability and not an asset. Not saying it’s easy. The goal isn't to change their minds; it's to change their math. Make the pain of keeping him greater than the fear of his base.
SnarfyMcSnarferson
M1 garrand
bigtitsbutnotthesexykind
Here is the suggestion.
1: Oranize. Form the well regulated militia your 2nd amendment holds so dear
2: Fight.
It's as simple as that. Yes, this would mean a war, and people will perish. But your grandfathers and great grandfathers were willing to make this sacrifice back in the 40's. Now it's your turn. Prove tonthe world that we can trust you. If not, you cannot complain.
jaggcomputing5
Bullets are fashionable and make a statement.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
Are you? Because frankly the suggestion was vote for Kamala, and you guys didn't take the fucking hint.
And now the rest of the world has to deal with his psychotic whims.
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
Gaddafi.
METROlD
You can start by printing a couple posters and stickers and posting them in hour neighborhood. /gallery/ice-streets-citizens-under-sheets-52Q3U22#/user/metrold/favorites
zuurg
into a mulcher feet first
Cid2
Google Stauffenberg and learn from his mistakes
anobviousthrowawayaccountduh
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/heres-what-happened-people-who-were-executed-having-molten-gold-poured-down-their-throat-180951695/
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Bullets are good for removing a fascist infestation
NameChecksOut87
I mean you were 5cm to the left or right to be done with this asshole but i fear someone even worse would take his place if the shooter had a spotter
tachyx
There is no bunker at Mar-a-Lago. He kept classified docs in the bathroom. Get a few thousand people down there and hang him at a gas station. I hear Chevron has a thing for him.
loedout
As justified as that might be, it wouldn't be that simple and, even if it were successful, it wouldn't solve the problem. All 3 branches have fallen and Trump would be replaced immediately by a smarter fascist with similar ambitions.
ClessAurion
He has a personality cult, and there is no favorite child that can replace him now.
loedout
Vance (or whoever took Trump's place) would probably not command the same loyalty from the extremist base, but they wouldn't need to. Trump has already concentrated so much power into the presidency that they would really only need the oligarchs and sycophants support to hold onto power, and Trump's assassination would give them the justification and support they'd need to solidify that power.
ClessAurion
That is a fair statement tbh.
It still would be a test of fire. Just like the next presidential elections will be when he inevitably goes for a 3rd term.
AloneWithMyThoughts
Nah you are right, best to do nothing i guess /s
Prom7766
America is the most difficult country in the world to take over and you're expecting a few thousand civilians to handle it. As if they won't mow us down and call us terrorists.
There's not a single target we could take out that would stop them.
Honestly, if you're all so scared just get together and attack us yourselves. The combined might of several countries has to be better than a few dudes with rifles, right?
Or take a plane ride over here and handle things personally since it's so easy.
Willowofwisp
This is literally what you have the second amendment for.
NonstopRampage
A few hundred nearly pulled off a coup.
CerisCinderwolf
Got a pretty tall sign too. Perfect podium for a display.
softsuit
Water levels to high. He needs to be publicly evaluated.
ClessAurion
Fucking organize a multiple-day country wide general strike. Like I've been suggesting since the orange moron was elected.
To us Europeans is BAFFLING how chill you are as that guy literally strips naked your democracy.
You literally do your day to day like nothing is happening instead of properly organizing. Its kinda chilling to see happen in real time tbh.
andexer
And what would that do? Most of us will be out of money (starving and homeless) before anything happens as a result. And where has a general strike of the populace forced a leader to resign?
ClessAurion
Most of you will be out of money starving and homeless either way after they're done with you.
Us citizens that were poorer and in a more dire situation a hundred years ago have done what I'm suggesting. It really isn't as good of an excuse you think it is.
JMassHysteria
The vast majority of us live a distance of multiple European countries away from the Orange twat. So marching to the capital to strike is nearly impossible. And even if we all just decided to stop working tomorrow, striking in our individual cities and towns, there’s a frightening number of people who actively want him to keep doing what he’s doing, many of whom would actively obstruct those of us trying to stop these horrors. Not to mention the fear of law enforcement killing us.
ClessAurion
Many say that. It's the problem, the capital is irrelevant. Big numbers and multitudes are great for news coverage. You aren't aiming at that. Neither were Americans a century ago, and they were in a way worse situation than the average today.
You do it because it's the only thing the assholes that are hurting you care about
A huge chunk of Americans (double digit %) get together to literally stay at home one or two days, and the the economy suffers in the billions. Remember covid? Like that
Callipygius
What do you think would happen? Trump would resign? You think the Republicans would impeach him? I think it would just make life shittier for those who already have the shittiest lives until they have to die or work
ClessAurion
Definitely not, of course. And they are already doing the making shitty part already so... No changes there.
You are putting pressure on their government. You are making people that are undecided to take sides, and you are forcing g the moneybags to actually have to do something about it.
Doing fuckall like that, or get a couple thousand people here and there randomly everytime something bad happens... Does nothing but exactly what they want and expect of you
NonstopRampage
They still have internet. That's the lynchpin. They can be priced out of everything, be stuck homeless, starving and sick, and still be content enough to do nothing. You can take away their porn. They don't care, because they can still get on twitter and youtube.
billmike019000
Do you know how big the us is ? It’s easy for you europeans to say …strike…just about all of Europe would fit in one or two of our states …
ClessAurion
That makes no sense. Look what a strike is, because I think you are thinking about people on the streets, which yes, but its about a massive percent of the population refusing to work to give a massive hit to the economy so the leaders (and people with money) shit their pants a bit.
You could literally contribute to it by staying at home (although ideally, you don't)
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RamenAthlete
The minute you do that, you galvanize his base and create an even greater monster. Look at Kirk, he had 1/10 the pull and influence this orange shitbag has. People wanted to build shrines to the dickhead...
andexer
How?
OhIfIMust
Ever heard of OpSec?
TheOldSchoolisBack
Tried that and missed. Its gotten harder now.
SavageDrums
Nobody tried that. It was an obvious fake
TheOldSchoolisBack
Or, we’ve gotten as bad as the conservatives with conspiracy theories
vibur
Yeah? Just like that?
Deadflower394857
This would accomplish nothing. Instant gratification is not strategy.
SavageDrums
When that fat fuck dies, his entire movement erupts in civil war.
Deadflower394857
Interesting analysis, but I'm not sure I see the evidence for it.
cousteau
Yeah that's a start.
BeaverOnFire
Corrodias
Are you going to tie him to a chair for us?
ananfro
He’s your problem America, figure your own shit our first.
Corrodias
Not just our problem. 🙄 But if you want to stick your head in the sand, go on. You'll hear a knock at your door eventually.
akafluffy
you're really not gonna like if the rest of the world gets together to fix your problem, a lot more civilians gonna die if you let it get to WW3, civil war 2 would just be a drop in that bucket
badgerwedontneednostinkingbadgers
You lot elected the P.O.S. how is it not on you lot to fix it?
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
I like how they handled mussolini in Italy
cousteau
You misspelled "hanged" :)
hyperchondriac
Ok, just as soon as the the last of the American military defense is defeated by the *checks notes* ... American military. Got it.
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
I suppose not all Americans are on the fascist side but I only meant the hanging part, doesn't matter how we get there
hyperchondriac
I politely disagree. I think the "getting there" part is very much the million dollar question. How does one depose a tyrant who controls the world's most powerful (and apparently, quite willing) military, and has the populace trapped in a brutal police state.
NonstopRampage
When gaddafi was cornered, and his bunker couldn't take any more hammering, he tried to flee the country in a military convoy. His victims grouped up in such large numbers, that the convoy couldn't even bowl through them. He was ripped out of his vehicle, torn literally limb from limb, and violated with a broom handle before death.
As a canadian, whose nation is at risk of being dragged into war? FUCK 'getting there the right way'. He is a threat to the world and it's AMERICAS JOB to stop him.
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
Yeah, the military being that willing was kind of a surprise for me too..
And he's not the real problem. He's the orange face of it. The entire system needs reform.
The 2nd amendment could come in handy but the crazy guys with the guns are on his side too..
But from Europe i really really hope you guys can turn it around.
You landed on the moon, you can overthrow this buffoon
Sonicschilidogs
Italy is a fucking ant compared to the US in terms of geographic size, and the motherfucker has private planes, military escorts, and secret service details in the modern age of digital spying and data collection..... Not exactly analogous to Mussolini.....
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
Mussolini had the equivalent of that in his time..
You have a better suggestion?
Sonicschilidogs
He realllllly didn't though, he was captured after trying to run to the border in disguise as a common soldier. No plane, no NSA surveillance, small geographic area for citizens to cover. Hitler is truly the best analog for Trump.
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
It doesn't matter how, it just has to get done.
I only meant the public hanging part, but i dont care how he dies. I want his grave to become the #1 unisex bathroom.
Sonicschilidogs
Sprawling domestic surveillance network, jackboot thugs that ship residents to camps, zealot cult followers, large and industrialized military, and relatively vast expanse of land with which citizens would have to cover to get to him, and yet he had the logistical ability to evade any attempts by land, air, or sea.
jayman0123
Please remember other countries that are saying "just go get him," our police force, that has hundreds of cops in every city in the country, are better equipped than most countries' militaries. We have police departments that have literally tanks, armored vehicles, machine guns, drones, and explosives.
So yes we are taking suggestions.
SergeyPrkl
you have 300 million people. They can't kill EVERYONE?
jayman0123
Of the 300 million, about 70 million are children, 70-80 million support trump, 1 million of them are police officers, 2-4 million are in the US military, 70 million couldn't be bothered to even vote let alone revolt, and the remaining 70 million are spread out across 4 million square miles of country
SergeyPrkl
And? So, you are OK with it. Got it. This doesn't come as a surprise. It seems that Majority of americans are OK with this, murdering innocent etc.. It is what americans wanted.
jayman0123
So your suggestion is that I, a single citizen, get in my car with the $27 that is in my bank account, and drive the 4297 kilometers across the country, running out of gas and money along the way and what? Assassinate a few hundred people? You're a fucking moron.
personwhoisaperson
You're likely to get shot by a cop in the US whether you do anything about your president or not. Might as well take someone with you when you go, since you'll go either way.
bigtitsbutnotthesexykind
It sounds to me like a swift and decisive operation means the people have literal tanks, armoures vehicles, machine guns, drones and explosives. And I am assuming not all cops are pro Orange cheeto. There are more of the people than there are of the police. It might be scary, but I don't think the landing on Omaha was just a nice walk on the beach. You've tried being nice. Now try the othr way?
TheFastpaws
You act like the people in the Arab Spring, Hong Kong, Syria and more didn't face militaries trying to kill them.
TheWarHymn
Even in a city with a large police force like Chicago, cops are outnumbered by citizens 200 to 1. You have the most civilian-owned guns in the world and 2A. Maybe its still early to go in shooting, but you still have time to prepare and organize. Also, civil disobedience can take many forms. Ghandi's people stopped paying taxes and boycotted businesses that supported the government, among other things.
NonstopRampage
Let's not forget that they only chose nonviolent resistance simply because they didn't have the numbers to fight back. Ghandi simply pushed for the logical choice- if they had enough manpower, he wouldn't have gone full pacifist.
TheWarHymn
FYI things started non-violent, but Ghandi's supporters absolutely went to town shortly after Ghandi and his crew were arrested by the British for inciting civil disobedience. They rioted for weeks and burned down thousands of rail stations, police stations, and post offices.
NonstopRampage
Makes sense. I just like to point out that ghandi was by no means a staunch pacifist like people think. He made a pragmatic decision. People always use him as an example when telling people to leave their abusers/oppressors/killers alone, and I'd rather nip that in the bud whenever I can.
tyllathine
It's called a general strike. Stockpile supplies for a month, then grind the economy to a halt.
NonstopRampage
It really is telling how few of you are scrappers of any kind. If you're letting them set up battle lines before something is done, you're doing it wrong.
dogmatix
Deploy the national guard. That will then give a structured, trained and resourced core for the (heavily armed) civilians to rally around and reinforce.
IReallyDontKnowWhatImDoingHere
I am german. And literally for decades Americans bragged in front of me about how they would have handled Hitler aso. („Dead within two weeks“ was the most popular „solution“ btw.)
And now you need suggestions? Really?
Can I say, that I am a little disappointed?
johnblood616
Those dumbasses ARE the Trumpers
FractalShoggoth
My dude, the ones bragging about handling Hitler are likely the same ones supporting the current regime.
If the country consisted of people like the ones interacting with you on Imgur, we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.
But yes, be disappointed. As you should be. As we are. Just not because of that.
boumboum34
LOL. Yes, Americans were overconfident. So were Germans during the Weimar Republic. We helped you then, you could help our Resistance now.
Anfalicious
You put up barricades and set fire to police cars. He'll, the French do it when they try to raise the retirement age and you guys can't do it too stop ww3
CreatureFromtheBlackLegume
Killing him won't stop WWIII. There are others in line to take his place
walnutbreath
People did that shit in 2020. It didn't move the needle an inch. In fact, it would have resulted in a massacre if it weren't for heroes like Gen. Milley who pushed back on Trump's desire to murder protesters. Those heroes are gone. The actions you prescribe will absolutely result in a slaughter if not a full-on pogrom on protesters and dissidents across the entire U.S.
It's absolutely ludicrous to compare French police (or any other police force) with the American police. French police are
Anfalicious
BLM became a global movement. In Australia it brought the issue of deaths in custody to the fore again and resulted in changes to police procedures. It's cultural impact is well shown of you watch how tv like law and order completely changed their vibe. Did it stop police brutality? No. Did it wake up many white people? Absolutely. Would it result in slaughter? Probably. Do you get your country back without that anyway? Probably not.
walnutbreath
Far less militarized and, more importantly, view themselves as members of their communities.
andexer
Oh yeah, US Police do not think like that. They think: "we're here to stop the bad guys, and that's anyone that doesn't agree with and listen to us. We gotta make people behave!"
medimr
Oh look, another "Dear Americans, go kill yourselves" post. They sure are heartwarming.
badgerwedontneednostinkingbadgers
It's not go kill yourself it's fix the fucking problem you created before it escalates to WW3
etherbunny41
Unfortunately for them the longer they wait the more likely it becomes "go kill yourself". This is why you need to be doing the peaceful protesting *PRO*-actively, not *RE*-actively.
Arkandos
You haven't even tried nonviolent actions. But all Americans can think of are murder. American exceptionalism is keeping you so far under the boot.
Where's the general strike? Where are the nationwide protests shutting everything down? The riots, the political action and organisation?
That's right, nobody cares enough. "We can't or we get fired!". You think people that protested in other countries had it kushty when they did it? What a fucking joke
Schrefu
Then people are like "but we cannot afford to do strikes, shutdowns, and protests. Joe Shmoe is struggling to get by". If Africans and Ecuadorians and Venezuelans could do it at the worst of their economy, surely you can.
Arkandos
The problem is bread & circuses. Americans have it too good, they are fed, cared for, and entertained. But they're at the same time pushed down enough that they think political action won't do anything.
tyllathine
It's called a general strike. Stockpile supplies for a month, then grind the economy to a halt.
SouthOfRubick
Yes, the world has basically turned on you..
paynoattentiontousernames
No. Its another "Americans, please fix your country, because you're making the rest if the world unsafe" post. I love the american dream, but this isn't it.
NonstopRampage
More accurately, it's a "Dear americans, you do realize we canadians are notorious for creating whole new war crimes when we're forced to fight, right? Stop this crap before we're dragged into open conflict" post.
It's especially notable because you all are to blame if it gets that bad.
Blimjoe
Dear America, DIE, you deserve everything coming to you and you did your best to earn it
awkungen42
Yep, fuck @OP and the guy in the post.
Lombax369
More like "Dear Americans, stop killing us"
awkungen42
Nobody is killing you yet, but this post irritates me enough that a small part of me hopes that maybe you fuckers posting that nobody did anything and lumping is on with MAGA get yours.
Lombax369
Thank you for proving my point
sundaymondayhippyday
“Killing themselves” Renee Good
medimr
None of the shits posting like this from the safety of their other countries are being killed by Americans.
Arkandos
Oh how high and mighty.
etherbunny41
Not *yet*.
Arbitrarynamehere
Remember when Russia invaded Ukraine and everyone was like "Russians should do something about Putin"
Just wondering if you recall
Deadflower394857
Yeah, I recall. That logic was dumb then and it's dumb now. Try critical thinking
Arbitrarynamehere
What part was dumb
medimr
No, actually. I don't remember anyone demanding that Russian civilians go kill themselves attempting to overthrow a dictator.
Arkandos
Then you have some sort of amnesia
Arbitrarynamehere
I remember it. We were right then, and they are right now about us.
FrancsTireur
100%, I remember it clear as day, I also remember when the worm turned and Americans began cheering every Russian death because "they're all complicit".
The wheel turns does it not.
Arbitrarynamehere
I'll understand when we get there too
fastlaserjockey
Oh fuck off with that.
This is a "Dear Americans, you have shit your pants so violently that it is beginning to spray onto neighbors. You need to literally get your shit together."
Dalael
Then in that case, if you wont do something about it, shut the fuck up and live with the fascism you're enabling with your pacivity. Get fucked, sincerely the restvif the world.
PunchaYaBuns
Thanks, I'll let my little boy know that mommy is going to go get arrested/killed on the streets because some stranger on the internet said i should. Thank you.
rossimus
In the US we call this "armchair quarterbacking." It's when some guy safe and cozy on his couch thinks he could do better than the guys on the field actually in the midst of it.
Very easy to say stuff like that from far away and without any risk to life, limb, or freedom.
datphone777365
Shat pants or its splatter arent life threatening, self serving false equivalency arguments arent very compelling. Have the nuts to say "yeah, get to bleeding"
etherbunny41
Okay, "Dear Americans, your war-mongering government has been murdering people overseas for DECADES. Even your *Nicest* president sent drones to kill people in a war started by their political opponents. You *should've* been peacefully protesting en masse a LONG time ago so as to PREVENT the given situation. The longer you hold out, the more people will die. The longer you hold out, the more your government will take from you. It is your collective inaction that has brought you here."
datphone777365
Yeah true cool, should we also tell the people of the countries that are connected at the hip with our MIC to work on their own collective inaction or are the only ones in need of collective actions?
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etherbunny41
Your country IS the problem right now. Americans doing that would be heartlessly hypocritical. You can do that when you're done though, if you really want to.
awkungen42
Nah, stay on your high horse while shitting on the people trying to fix it. If I start voting the other way, you guys get to experience what we're going through and misery loves company, bitch ass cunt.
FrancsTireur
Actually you get to experience what its like to try and invade europe without any allies with the nearest base being an entire ocean away and your command staff being selected entirely based on political allegiance not skill. Takes a lot more than a big budget and some fancy tech to make an army son and as a british officer I cordially invite you to put that theory of yours to the test.
awkungen42
You'd get fucked, plain and simple.
FrancsTireur
Lol, we've survived far worse and far more competent people than you. Go for it, vote for them, see if I care. We'll kill you all if we have to.
rowzdowr
Nah, the solution from international imgur is anything from assassinations to riots in the streets, but without any consideration that if the world's largest economy tanks, they'll have a lot bigger issues than Orange Hitler, who will be gone in a few years one way or another.
So yeah, we're fucking working on it. Shit's fucked, but that's not a reason to burn the house down while we're still inside it.
etherbunny41
Oh no. The Economy. The thing they're murdering people to prop up in the first place. Fuck, that would suck so hard if the demon they're sacrificing you to went away.
rowzdowr
Yes, because the economy is a nebulous, evil force, not millions of actual people's interconnected livelihoods.
I believe you're conflating it with capitalism in general, but if you rub those two braincells together any harder, you're liable to start a fire.
etherbunny41
The people who benefit from The Economy, the ones whose livelihood would be most greatly affected, are the people doing The Bad Stuff. For the rest of us, we'll make due with what we're left with. It will be enough.
LaffertyDanie1
If America plunged into civil war what do you think would happen in Ukraine or Taiwan?
etherbunny41
That would suck. you should probably try to prevent that.
FrancsTireur
Exactly what's happening without the US being in a civil war? Dont know what exactly you're trying to get at there because Trump has outlined how he views the world; spheres of influence, and as far as hes concerned that means China gets Asia, Russia gets europe and he gets the Americas.
FaeVikingPrincess
If you lived in America right now, what would you be doing? Nothing? That's right.
FrancsTireur
It doesnt matter what we'd do, thats an irrelevant attempt at a "gotcha". It isnt happening in our countries, if it does then we'll talk, but until then this is all on you guys and its you, the average american citizen who will bare the consequences whether you act or not.
Consider Dresden, im sure there were people who didnt like Nazism in that city. Im sure there were people who opposed imperialism in Tokyo or Hiroshima. It didnt matter in the end, because their opinions were silent and it 1/
FrancsTireur
Didnt keep them safe did it?. You know why? Because when a nation fails to handle its internal problems and they become external ones, they surrender any say in how they get resolved. Once you make your problem someone else's business, you may not like how they choose to fix it.
You might get lucky, maybe, but you've got a choice between crossing your fingers and hoping when the bombs fall or taking action now, maybe losing it all, but knowing you did the right thing and spared others the 2/
FrancsTireur
Pain and suffering being unleashed in the US, or at least trying to. If both roads lead to likely death then isnt the obvious answer to do the right thing and hope something somewhere rewards you for that?.
Im a soldier, its easy for me to say, hard to do, but as trite as it may sound; nothing worth doing is easy and it isnt up to us to hold your hand or try to save you, its up to you to stop us from having to solve your problem for you. 3
Deadflower394857
The "gotcha" is attempting to point out to you that individual poor Americans don't have power over billionaires, and aggressively blaming them for not somehow fixing an imperialist fascist country themselves is unreasonable. Even you yourself dont have a plan for what we could do, because you clearly haven't put much thought into this.
FrancsTireur
I dont need to put any thought into it because its not my country. Here's what happens when it becomes "my problem", as an officer in the British army, every American who threatens my home or my allies is a target. I wont ask who you voted for, I wont show you any mercy because we used to be friends, I'll defend my nation if it means killing every single person in yours. Is that clear enough for you?, so dont make it my problem, fix it yourselves.
Oh and theres not a single person in uniform 1/
etherbunny41
Hypothetically speaking? I have no clue what I'd be doing. But like, Not Hypothetically speaking? Your country is fucked unless your populace fights back against your government. So regardless of what I or any other non-US citizen "would" or "would not" be doing, you *actual* US citizens need to step the fuck up.
awkungen42
Yeah? Where the fuck would you go if you lived in(pick any state) you gonna drive 30 hours to Minneapolis from and West or East Coast state? The US is fucking massive. You wouldn't do shit because you still have on your head that somehow Americans live around each other.
etherbunny41
... you don't understand how hypotheticals work, do you? You're not IN a hypothetical. You're in reality. What are YOU doing?
youreathing
Right, so that makes doing nothing ok. Got it.
Yorghe
its more of theres nothing we can do beyond minor things that ultimately do nothing, we're watching and thinking just like everyone else with common sense.
its like that analogy that gets posted every so often, we're just kids in the car while the parents are drunk and fighting driving at high speed, dafuq we suppose to do? we can complain, we'll get beat, we can try to talk, we'll get punished. You going to blame kids in the car for doing nothing to stop a car crash? got it.
youreathing
I don't agree with the metaphor. If you've resigned yourselves to be as powerless as children in that situation, I don't know what to tell you. Why isn't there a general strike happening right now? It's happening in Iran (the same country that Trump wants to "help"). Are you all not quite ready to do that yet? If not now, when?
notyourtypicalmatch
More of a 'get off your high horse' deal.
youreathing
That's not where the rest of the world is coming from. We're not judging you, we're saying fucking DO something (anything) b/c the rest of the world is extremely concerned. Unfortunately, whatever y'all do affects us all.
lanthanidehighway
one; fuck this particular dude come live here and go through it. and 2. no shit now go lecture every central, south american, asian and african country run by a drug cartel or warlord or ACUTAL commies ya cunt.
datphone777365
Agreed with everything up the the actual commies bit. Aint no commie states now or before.
Lombax369
I don't know what world you're living in (an American one obviously, judging by that deluded "commies" comment...) but the people of those countries are *constantly* fighting back
VitaminJay
My guy, if you're any more racist in your screed I'm going to assume you're part of ICE.
datphone777365
Ehhh gona give em half a point for the warlord bit.
VitaminJay
I won't, African instability is actively stirred up by American and European interests doing resource extraction.
Xanducalrizian
Bro literally all those other places you mentioned exist BECAUSE OF the US. The whole destabilizing/decapitating thing that we just did in Venezuela? Yea, that's kind of our calling card.
datphone777365
Aye aye, europe has its hands in some of that mess too. Specifically africa, asia and the middle east or through their economic benefits of being part of our MIC! Its almost like the us mirriored its ancestors! Lets not be greedy.
Arkandos
They aren't actively working to kill most of us
datphone777365
Ehhhh. China and north korea def have their hands in that bowl...
HiddenSanity
In some fairness, those other countries aren't making threats about invading his country, so he's a bit more concerned with the one that is.
ganjj
We are up against a maniac with a trillion dollar military / radicalized police force full of incompetent psychopaths, a huge geographical area which makes large scale disruption/ organization near impossible, an oppressive system doing its job to keep us isolated and distracted with feeding our families, drowning in medical debts, no safety nets, on top of all that their plan is trying to bait us into violence / disruption so that he can declare martial law and suspend elections indefinitely
ganjj
Not saying we have given up by any means but I think in a moment like this restraint and careful calculation is what is called for rather than falling for their traps
Deadflower394857
You have a good analysis! Have you worked out the solution yet?
jackal696
Remember all those soldiers mostly come from poor families and they don't want to kill us citizens but do start stock piling what you can.
NonstopRampage
The thing is, ANY OTHER NATION he attacks will be up against the same, all because you people refuse to act. That puts you firmly on their shitlist. Because it didn't need to get this ridiculously dire.
etherbunny41
The world is panicking because we CAN'T act, but Americans CAN and too many of you are refusing to. It's gonna be real fuckin' loud for any US citizen with access to social media and a guilty conscience. I suggest figuring out which one's easier to ditch and doing so.
Deadflower394857
Actually you can act. Support American mutual aid efforts.
etherbunny41
I'm already on Canadian disability due to mental health issues. I don't have enough to give.
2074red2074
It's real easy to say this when you can get from your house to the capital of your country on a bicycle. What do you expect poor people in Nebraska to realistically do?
7qd26tttv7
Learn to ride a bike (and read)
2074red2074
Ride a bike 2000 km to go storm the Capitol?
Deadflower394857
The actual answer of what to do is mutual aid, support your local community. Support each other, build strength for the coming fight.
2074red2074
So nothing as far as what OP is saying. OP is saying we need to stop Trump, not survive him.
etherbunny41
So, there's this thing called Population Density, and it tends to increase the closer you are to Important Stuff. There's also these things called State Capitals which hold the government buildings of your local representatives.
"What do you expect people in Nebraska to do?" is the wrong question. What can the 8,000,000 people of New York do? What can the 4,000,000 people within driving distance of Frankfurt, Kentucky do? And really, what can the 700,000 people in Washington DC do?
A lot.
Eidodk
Whatever they can. That's the whole effing point.
2074red2074
And what can they?
Eidodk
You should ask them. Sitting back and crying about being poor isn't helping anyone.
2074red2074
No, you're asserting that they can do something, so you tell me what that is.
Arkandos
American exceptionalism at work once more I see
FractalShoggoth
That's not what that term means.
2074red2074
That's not really exceptionalism. It simply is a fact that it's harder to effect change the further you are physically from your center of government, and America is a lot bigger than most countries and really shit when it comes to public transportation.
Arkandos
Then organise. Work together. Help one another. You have more cars than people.
2074red2074
Oh yeah, let's all quit our jobs, leave our elderly and disabled family we're caring for (because we don't have free healthcare) to die, and drive for several days to get to Washington D.C. And let's not worry about the fact that we're all in poverty and can't afford the gas needed to get there, the fact that this convoy would be noticed and the feds would have a fucking week to prepare for us, and the fact that we don't have a supply line and would have to disperse for food after three days.
Arkandos
Making up scenarios nobody mentioned, good as always.
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Shut the country down in a general strike. Unless nebraska is in some kind of alternate corn dimension and not in the us, that’s what you can do.
Arkandos
The alternate corn dimension, I like that
Arkandos
Not let it get to this point. You've had clear signs for decades.
Now you're here, and it's time to dig deep to get out of the shithole.
Also, fuck you for talking down on other countries.
2074red2074
No, the person above didn't say that we shouldn't have allowed this to happen. I would agree with that statement. What he said was that we aren't doing enough to fix it. That's kind of the problem with a huge country like this. A lot of people live so far away from their leaders (both political and economic) that they literally cannot do anything to actually effect change outside of utilizing the systems set up by the very leaders they're trying to oust. Also, fuck you too.
Arkandos
Nah, you're just too americawashed. This is the whole point of community, unions, organisations. To organise. But you've elected not to. So lie in the bed you've made.
2074red2074
Again, you're criticizing the choices that led to this situation. I don't disagree with that.
jackal696
Start growing food like potatoes and stuff, it will help feed your poor while they fight the good fight