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lanthanidehighway
golly is dat sumone willing to admit that the UAE are just as big of ratfuck bastards as the chinese?
unremarkableasterisk
Audiopatch
YeahBu0y
That woman has more backbone and moral character than all of us combined.
dwa60x5
That woman is my hero.
LifeConfessionguy1
I have no idea what is true and what is false.
ElectricGreenApple
That's the entire point of propaganda. Bomb so much info, that in the end you feel the need to anchor yourself, and then they step in.
When EVERYTHING becomes questionable, people start picking their own truths. Because 'they might as well'.
thisiskissel
Falling in a room of well-paid deaf ears.
updootyourpootsnoot
man that dude running the conference is one Moriartyesque mofo, he knows what he's actually doin
storebrandproductmascot
I get a horrible feeling just looking at that guy. If I was a religious person, I'd probably call him a demon. Fuck it, I'm doing it anyway.
tyrsfavoritesword
That's the natural reaction to a sociopath, it's uncomfortable to see someone without empathy in real life.
VonLiptonSchtein
Yeah. Like he didn't even turn to look at her. That's a twisted reaction
Bizarkly
Always upvote Medea Benjamin -- she annoys the *fuck* out of the Establishment...
GreatOdinsTaint
The Biden admin has sabotaged or half assed stimulus checks, 50k student loan forgiveness, and the $15 min wage, and now MBS gets a pass...
...Im starting to think that this "progressive" administration is just here to reestablish the status quo...
parisforce
Very good, very brave.
4charactersorlongerwasalreadytaken
I would never do this.
Rosfmmmhzdrozzley
Lol that was the most well thought out speech I've ever heard for such a chaotic situation. Fighting off guards while making perfect sense
Forscalebananas
She is 100 percent correct. Fuck the military industrial complex.
ClimateChangeIsAlreadyKillingUs
I seriously hope Europe won't support USA here anymore... I doubt it, but I keep hope and protest.
Fedotia
USA will heavily sanction any bank proceeding transactions with Iran. An European cannot even buy a carpet from there.
69Banano420
look at that fucking ghoul sitting there
psychologisttheologist
As a total aside to considering the validity of her points, those guards are rubbish.
ZeBri0n
She wasn't supposed to be there and she was interrupting to preach, but it's not like she was attacking people- no need to hurt her.
Oh, of course not hurt her. Non violent intervention is a thing, though, and it's not particularly hard. They didn't do much of anything.
This is mostly what that looks like.Use any more force and you risk hurting them- despite the hype, people are fragile,and accidents happen
I've used NVI for about a decade in various contexts. This is rubbish. They are doing little more than patting her in the second video
HashMaster9k
Well, she's tiny, scrappy, and rather eloquent for being manhandled like that. They were probably scared of her.
EdwardEH
The usa bombs the people that the corporations want bombed.
baldm0mma
The government of Saudi Arabia is asshole.
bfiGamer
That's what education does. It makes you feel responsible.
LespritDeLescalier22
damimicena
She's a hero
Watchadave
Manufacuring consent
bandabears
Biden just bombed Syria too right?
VibratingNipples
This happened during the trump era
So Biden didn't just bomb Syria?
ExcuseMe2
I think his point is that they both bombed Syria.
Miller16of16
And she has something to say about that too. https://popularresistance.org/bidens-reckless-syria-bombing-is-not-the-diplomacy-he-promised/
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Yes he did.
LychFinderGeneral
Correct
Mokelzwerg
Iran is far from innocent but Saudi Arabia is a fucking cancer down there. But why would the Western world sanction them if they’re ok with
Didn't USA basically make Iran what it is today?
LampLighterN7
We tortured them for over 50 years yes.
Chinese concentration camps?
It's about the oil which *literally* fuels the first world; this is why we need to wean ourselves off of it, so we can tell SA to fuck off.
The USA is self sufficient concerning oil now. This is more about influence in the Middle East.
AlpacaScreampilot
do your part and upvote this.
WorkerBey
I was going to but then the video told me to swipe left so I did
better luck next time fella
Front page.
PrPlump
I'm impressed by how articulate she stays while being muscled out of the room.
Prob she is not real.
ThankYouForYourTime
I know right? Her voice carried well, her words were clear, kept on point, unemotional. She used her rights and used them well.
IsendDickPicsIfYouAskNicely
To make a great point too. Fuck the Saudi government
Tumescentpie
I'm surprised they can carry her, with those giant balls she's got.
DracKing
Not the first time I think. Respect.
taitati
so brave!!!, she is also right
SkamanSam
This is most likely not her first rodeo.
youbetterwork
Her name is Medea Benjamin from Code Pink. She's done this hundreds of times.
She's had a shit-ton of experience.
bouzi3
U get like that just when ur passed the point of being angry
CidColetti
Yes. I was thinking the same thing.
Tnightwalk3r
The balls thing or how well articulated she was? ...
1998wasthepinnacleofexistance
I am a good sized woman who has carried my short but stout father. I am amazed that they didnt just pick her up and truck her off.
ironsonic
https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w
AlkeneThiol
Thank you now I understand the comment above.
N0SF3RATU
Haliburton, Raytheon, Boeing, and [enter your military contractor here] security sure are nicer than cops in Louisiana
sc363
They must not be very strong or she's ripped, she looks like she's basically letting them do it...
siccoyote
She's not even had a succulent Chinese meal beforehand.
I love you.
cfbshank36
I don’t understand your reference, care to share?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebF2cgmFmU
leeempire
Totally. She was speaking loudly but was screaming incoherently which helped.
JCBalance
I went and upvoted a bunch of your shit to make up some of the difference. Typos are a bicht
You rock! Thank you!
NayaTaylor
You couldn’t understand what she was saying? Dang might wanna get those ear balls looked at
PataRican
Pretty sure he meant wasn't. Otherwise the statement wouldn't make sense.
It’s true! That is exactly what I did. Unfortunate mistake. I deserve some hate though for what it potentially implied on the first read.
It happens man. You don't deserve it because it's pretty obvious it was a typo, but this is the internet.
arghthisissohard
Did you mean to say ‘wasn’t’ instead of ‘was’?
Yes! The context is totally there but not overly obvious. Worst typo ever. I deserve the down votes Hahaha
I meant “wasn’t screaming” which is why I ended the sentence “which helped”. That typo was horrible. I deserve these downvotes hahaha
joinusjoinusjoinus
I think you’re agreeing with the comment you replied to and misspoke—hoping “screaming incoherently” wasn’t your intended phrasing
You are correct! The context is there but not obvious. I deserve the hate! Hahaha
I think ppl just enjoy dog piling, you don’t deserve it ? I’ll go upvote two of your other comments. Congrats on not being a shitbag
High fives for not being shit bags!!!
CivilizedUndead
Just on a side note: Syria is the fault of Assad, not the US. All Assad had to do was resign and call elections, he refused.
If US, Turkey, SA had not paid, trained, equiped, imported upward of 60k foreign Wahabbi mercs it wouldn't have lasted a year.
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Wait. Hold on. Are you implying that the US intentionally created, trained, and funded ISIS? I’m all ears to hear this rambling conspiracy
AlQaeda affiliates a go-go, and knew much of the hardware was finding its way to ISIS. Short memories, "Timber Sycamore"
I’m quite familiar with Timber Sycamore, which covered the south. Under the MOC support, neither Jabhat al Nusra nor ISIS were relevant 1/2
Actors in the area covered by that operation. The support played a more positive role in eliminating space for radical groups. Other 2/3
If that happened in the USA would you want other countries bombing us, destroying infrastructure, and causing collateral damage, deaths?
The US didn't go on a massive air campaign in Syria, the destruction in Syria is mainly due to the civil war and Russian bombings.
Oh, just a little bombing!
The targets were mainly ISIS, and chemical weapons sites.
Pharmakon01
Umm what about Iraq war victims, , Pakistan?
abu ghareeb jail did you hear about it!!!
Different issues, the US is 100% guilty of those. I'm simply pointing out the Syria issue. Disclosure: I'm from Pakistan.
/2 Does the USA really have a moral high ground, or moral motives to bomb there?
I don't agree with bombing, but I think intervention is important, since Assad is a regime and has been bombing his own ppl too
But that's not why USA is there. That's just the excuse. And when have these interventions EVER turned out well in ME?
What's the real reason then? And they haven't b/c they have been like this. We need different intervention to protect Syrians and others
If you're talking about the recent bombing, Iranian backed militias killed a US contractor, and injured US soldiers. Biden had to respond.
We could not occupy Iraq. Like the American and Iraqi people want.
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Khatapillah
Preach!
Mack1986
Yeah let's forget serbia committing mass genocide while all of Europe stood by and wagged their fingers
Fuck off. The entire area had in fighting like Israel and Palestine for centuries. NATO just picked a side
Ahh so you support the genocide. Got it.
CtTraceur
I am not caught up enough with current events to know how to properly react to this.
BSwann
Lol current events it's been going on for 7 years.
Frozenspokes
It's been going on since the '90s. I was in Dahran and we had to evacuate diplomats from Sana because of civil "unrest".
JimmySmits
Now that you know that, you should do some research on your own and remedy it. Then form an opinion, and maybe even act on it.
I agree
pastramionrye
She’s highlighting the feckless grifting the American leadership and media are doing to the American people about why we need to bomb ppl.
leeloumultipass
Basically everyone let’s Saudi Arabia get away with everything even though they’re the biggest contributor to destruction in the Middle East
9/11 hijackers were Saudi, they funded ISIS + other terror cells, they’re bombing the shit out of Yemen, they sent a hit squad to Toronto
Vaars
Saudi Arabia is killing civilians in Yemen. Iran has stuff to answer for too, but much less. The former gets a pass, the latter doesn't.
tyrpestdeath
Imagine your roommate tells you to clean the dishes or you'll get kicked out. You clean the dishes, he moves out, your next roommate is 1/?
is like, "clean the dishes or get kicked out!"... But you did. And he files for eviction anyway. You're on your third roommate and could 2/?
give a fuck less about the dishes anymore because they're just hellbent on kicking you out. That's basically Iran and the US right now. 3/3
Dilehk
It's like the al Qaeda and the US in Afghanistan except the US did not need a big contrey to help in a proxy war
NomadicPaladin
Sat right next to her group in a briefing once. Sometimes they get it and other times their protesting is way off the mark, but hey,....
...the 1st Amendment rocks for a reason and it's people like her who put it to good work.
lucky13kenny
I'm sure the armchair journalists of Imgur will fill you in
AtlasMorrow
THIS COMMENT IS THE BEST. It cannot be understated how valuable acknowledgement of our own knowledge gaps is-I DONT KNOW is a GOOD response!
Short version → Saudi despot keeps enough $ pouring into US politics so their enemies are US enemies.
The Gray Zone is a trash source. It’s like the equivalent of Breitbart but backed by authoritarian regimes.
For context, even Wikipedia banned them as a source due to poor reliability https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources
SexySexyChicken
Oh cool! It’s like Vice news but obviously backed by authoritarian governments in Russia China and Syria! Wow!
Teawrecks66
More or less she's not wrong.
I feel like 'peace' isn't an option since it would help the regime but sanctions aren't good/useful either. But I also know little too so ?
haggerton
The US "regime" has much more to answer for than the Iranian one.
MantisTobagganMD
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Iran is still no fucking saint...but yea, we should not, in any way shape or form, be allied woth SA. They are an evil regime.
ImAFoxButNotReally
Cradle of terrorists.
SpitMatt
The entire world sees it the same way she does, but the US Media Loom spins it as if Yemen is somehow Iran's fault...
HijabiHomegirl
Because a big chunk of it is,though not entirety.
superdupertrooper
They're funding & training Houthi rebels, so...Yes, the Saudis are awful, using cluster munitions & causing famine, but Iran is at fault too
montyman185
Yeah, just leave the area, the US really shouldn't be involved
With fracking & small intn'l trade, the US is already withdrawing from key regions worldwide. War & famine will fill the Pax Americana void
If you're into geopolitics, check out Peter Zeihan's latest book "Disunuted Nations" about the fall of global order. Well written if grim
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Not sure anyone is claiming Iran is a paradise state and undeserving of censure.
Pretty much how Iraq was 9/11's (top hint it wasn't it was Saudi Arabia's but fuck facts)
pareidoliaperson
Bin Laden is pretty Saudi Arabian. So yeah...
IIRC all of the pilots were Saudi born in the terrorist attacks.
BenjaminMu
And Al’Queda was funded by Saudi Arabia too. So... if you pay for something, and you’re the one to do it, must be Iraq’s fault!
15 out of 19 of the perpetrators, so not all, but a notably high ratio.
What the Saudis are doing in Yemen is reprehensible but the Iranians are also very much involved and heavily supporting the Houthi side.
SergiousMaximus
Good on you lady, as futile as it is.
OverMyDadBody
Good people make a difference!
RetiredLineCook
Let’s help it not be futile
troiski
Amen!
Lledargo
"you can make a speech outside" okay, but the people who need to listen are in that room...
sliveroflight
KoalaOnTheJuice
The powerful love protest. They do. Ideally 1 person, "peaceful" (they get to define that), with no one to hear them, safe in a locked room.
harambedaycare
Only futile because we watch rhen complicitly go back to work shrugging, "not my problem".
threenotch23
If we could stand up and help her it would not be futile, it would be inevitable
catholiccolor117
Make love not war. I never understood meaness or hate for we all one human race
worldling
I wish I was in that room. I would clap and cheer for her
Man I woulda charged up there and help her stand up and let her continue speaking.
Imnormal
No she did good. She will go to jail but all in all was pretty peaceful
ukalliq
A petite middle-aged white lady will NOT go to jail for this.
She should atleast spend the night. She has a record so I doubt they let her off with a warning.
I feel like you misunderstood 'futile', it means that it isn't going to change anything even if it was good that she did it
We are talking about it aren't we? Going to war takes a vote. We can influence that vote if aware of what's going on.
SneakEFoxxe
I don’t think it does? At the very least if the populous had any influence Vietnam wouldn’t have happened
I argue, the rhetoric is close to the same that is currently being tried now. Except globalization has helped close the information gap. 1/
Althox00
An officially declared war is an act of congress, but the president has the power to send troops into combat without the declaration.
someonesdissapointment
Fuck yes. I was happy to see the recent administration leave however, that doesn't mean an angel team sits there now.Sanctions hurt the poor
IveGotRedOnMe
Is it just me or is that a 2018 timestamp in the top left corner at the beginning? How old is this?
ridetheshoopuf
And no sanctions hurt activists. Those thugs they send to kill peaceful protesters are paid from the money now the government is short on.
DarkAngelWarlord
well what can we do? political assassinations of iranian leaders would just trigger a war
Mr21782Man
They do. The problem is that regimes will use humanitarian aid for weapons that harm even more. At some point the people have to take charge
DuxNautarum
That's the point. Sanctions cause the people to petition their government for change.
Tell that to the mom who can't feed her starving children?
Let her tell it to her government.
She does. And they ignore her. They are accused of being "libtards" when they do because they want basic human needs equally distributed
leechdemon
I don't disagree, but so do wars. What's the middle ground?
1) Give waivers for sanctions so they can sell oil again instead of pirating iranian ships so they have a reason to get back into compliance
with JCPOA 2) Use JCPOA as a base for another treaty to have them limit support to Hezbollah and missile tests 3) Stop this near-war
situation and treat them like a normal country.
Assuming the question is legitimate, the sanctions are actually the middle ground. The extremes are war and leaving the theocrats alone.
GigglesMaster
As an Iranian, yes!!! People can’t afford bread.
parkerh17
Yeah we've been committing war crimes against Iran and ppl still act like Iran is somehow the bad guy. Makes me sick.
An embargo is not a war crime. And they are the bad guy.
We blocked them from receiving medical supplies which is a war crime. We broke international law to prevent them ppe in the middle of a 1/
Pandemic. 2/2
Don’t get me wrong, the Iranian government is terrible and criminals too!! But in end, people keep suffering from both ends
physcistwithbiceps
As an African, you guys have bread??!
TheFastpaws
I'd help you but I barely get around myself.
jogthejewelsquickly
This is dark AF and also accurate
Hey that's racist!
poscduke
So what's the solution
venomlash
Legitimize comparative moderates like Rouhani by engaging with them and reaching fair compromise. Show that rapprochement is good for the
economy, that they can give up nukes without becoming a vassal state, and that it'll make them prosper. That establishes a foundation for
further engagement on other issues (e.g. regional politics). Unfortunately, it relies on mutual trust, and Trump torpedoing the deal kinda
ruined a lot of hard work to establish trust. Right now both sides are posturing, seeing where the goalposts are going to be set.
TheFoxCouncil
The Iran Nuclear Deal was a pretty good one. But that bridge has burned.
yoozernaiym
Something like the Iran nuclear deal was ideal, but a certain someone likely ruined that opportunity
parpy
Yeah, good luck getting Iran back on board to comply with ANY agreement offered by the U.S. now that we've proven to reneg on a whim.
Rejoin the JCPOA as written, lift the sanctions, continue verification regimen before hardliners force the issue by making a nuke.
Well how did we deal with the IRA? Address legitimate grievances. America doesn’t see them as human, so they don’t care what happens to them
stereomiljac8888
Fuck off trying to be world police.
totallyOC
TheOkayCaptain
Okay, but wouldn't it be kinda bad if Iran had nuclear weapons? Do we need an even stronger North Korea?
AMoldyStump
colour me ignorant but who gives a fuck, no country is ever going to fire a nuke unless they are absolutely backed into a corner 1/?
the shear number of nukes out there means no one wins so no government will ever use them. and as long as the US and Russia have the most 2/
IDK, and for sure that are some serious questions. I just dont get USA need/urge to go arround world and meddle.
TheWhiteBarry
It's bad that they exist at all but Pandora's box is open now. Who are we to dictate who can and can't have them?
Maybe it's objectively true that a murderous dictatorship that constantly threatens to incinerate its neighbor shouldn't have the most
nickwinters
Bernie.
What is his proposal then?
LuminoZero
Ah yes, one word answers everything.
It's a strong start
Name me three legislative accomplishments tied to Bernie Sanders in his 50 years in Congress.
itsjustafatkid
After seeing the last shit stains in office, fuck it. What do we have to lose? I’ll keep voting when I can for the guy.
PaintedSlate
Every election will shift towards better or worse to a small or large degree. So we can always do worse... and we can always do better.
So no, we have a ton to lose. Sanders has been a great candidate never quite popular enough with the ridiculously broad left coalition.
Goldensands
Yes phrase it as if you’re somehow taking a chance by voting for the one guy with sensible policies. It’s proven to work ffs, healthcare is
Not some gamble, nor are basic unions gonna steal your cookie crumbs
LiteralDude
Well the prior administration, as bad as it was, at least deviated from the war mongering mantra of mainstream Repubs and Dems
I applaud Trump for withdrawing troops and no new wars, but he sure wasn't hesitant to help obliterate Yemeni citizens at the Saudi's behest
That’s true
Did you miss the part where Trump blew up an Iranian general during a visit to Iraq, thereby inciting issues with BOTH countries?
That instance was nothing compared to the past five presidents
Assassinating officials in an undeclared war = good. Air support for revolutionaries against a terroristic despot = bad. Got it.
The Obama admin pursued diplomatic solutions. The Trump admin had a schizophrenic policy of isolationism + incitement.
It may be news to you, but Trump not only expanded the use of airstrikes but also rolled back Obama-era transparency rules on them.
lanthanidehighway
golly is dat sumone willing to admit that the UAE are just as big of ratfuck bastards as the chinese?
unremarkableasterisk
Audiopatch
YeahBu0y
That woman has more backbone and moral character than all of us combined.
dwa60x5
That woman is my hero.
LifeConfessionguy1
I have no idea what is true and what is false.
ElectricGreenApple
That's the entire point of propaganda. Bomb so much info, that in the end you feel the need to anchor yourself, and then they step in.
ElectricGreenApple
When EVERYTHING becomes questionable, people start picking their own truths. Because 'they might as well'.
thisiskissel
Falling in a room of well-paid deaf ears.
updootyourpootsnoot
man that dude running the conference is one Moriartyesque mofo, he knows what he's actually doin
storebrandproductmascot
I get a horrible feeling just looking at that guy. If I was a religious person, I'd probably call him a demon. Fuck it, I'm doing it anyway.
tyrsfavoritesword
That's the natural reaction to a sociopath, it's uncomfortable to see someone without empathy in real life.
VonLiptonSchtein
Yeah. Like he didn't even turn to look at her. That's a twisted reaction
Bizarkly
Always upvote Medea Benjamin -- she annoys the *fuck* out of the Establishment...
GreatOdinsTaint
The Biden admin has sabotaged or half assed stimulus checks, 50k student loan forgiveness, and the $15 min wage, and now MBS gets a pass...
GreatOdinsTaint
...Im starting to think that this "progressive" administration is just here to reestablish the status quo...
parisforce
Very good, very brave.
4charactersorlongerwasalreadytaken
I would never do this.
Rosfmmmhzdrozzley
Lol that was the most well thought out speech I've ever heard for such a chaotic situation. Fighting off guards while making perfect sense
Forscalebananas
She is 100 percent correct. Fuck the military industrial complex.
ClimateChangeIsAlreadyKillingUs
I seriously hope Europe won't support USA here anymore... I doubt it, but I keep hope and protest.
Fedotia
USA will heavily sanction any bank proceeding transactions with Iran. An European cannot even buy a carpet from there.
69Banano420
look at that fucking ghoul sitting there
psychologisttheologist
As a total aside to considering the validity of her points, those guards are rubbish.
ZeBri0n
She wasn't supposed to be there and she was interrupting to preach, but it's not like she was attacking people- no need to hurt her.
psychologisttheologist
Oh, of course not hurt her. Non violent intervention is a thing, though, and it's not particularly hard. They didn't do much of anything.
ZeBri0n
This is mostly what that looks like.Use any more force and you risk hurting them- despite the hype, people are fragile,and accidents happen
psychologisttheologist
I've used NVI for about a decade in various contexts. This is rubbish. They are doing little more than patting her in the second video
HashMaster9k
Well, she's tiny, scrappy, and rather eloquent for being manhandled like that. They were probably scared of her.
EdwardEH
The usa bombs the people that the corporations want bombed.
baldm0mma
The government of Saudi Arabia is asshole.
bfiGamer
That's what education does. It makes you feel responsible.
LespritDeLescalier22
damimicena
She's a hero
Watchadave
Manufacuring consent
bandabears
Biden just bombed Syria too right?
VibratingNipples
This happened during the trump era
bandabears
So Biden didn't just bomb Syria?
ExcuseMe2
I think his point is that they both bombed Syria.
Miller16of16
And she has something to say about that too. https://popularresistance.org/bidens-reckless-syria-bombing-is-not-the-diplomacy-he-promised/
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Yes he did.
LychFinderGeneral
Correct
Mokelzwerg
Iran is far from innocent but Saudi Arabia is a fucking cancer down there. But why would the Western world sanction them if they’re ok with
Chimichanga007
Didn't USA basically make Iran what it is today?
LampLighterN7
We tortured them for over 50 years yes.
Mokelzwerg
Chinese concentration camps?
Bizarkly
It's about the oil which *literally* fuels the first world; this is why we need to wean ourselves off of it, so we can tell SA to fuck off.
Mokelzwerg
The USA is self sufficient concerning oil now. This is more about influence in the Middle East.
AlpacaScreampilot
do your part and upvote this.
WorkerBey
I was going to but then the video told me to swipe left so I did
AlpacaScreampilot
better luck next time fella
AlpacaScreampilot
Front page.
PrPlump
I'm impressed by how articulate she stays while being muscled out of the room.
4charactersorlongerwasalreadytaken
Prob she is not real.
ThankYouForYourTime
I know right? Her voice carried well, her words were clear, kept on point, unemotional. She used her rights and used them well.
IsendDickPicsIfYouAskNicely
To make a great point too. Fuck the Saudi government
Tumescentpie
I'm surprised they can carry her, with those giant balls she's got.
DracKing
Not the first time I think. Respect.
taitati
so brave!!!, she is also right
SkamanSam
This is most likely not her first rodeo.
youbetterwork
Her name is Medea Benjamin from Code Pink. She's done this hundreds of times.
Miller16of16
She's had a shit-ton of experience.
bouzi3
U get like that just when ur passed the point of being angry
CidColetti
Yes. I was thinking the same thing.
Tnightwalk3r
The balls thing or how well articulated she was? ...
1998wasthepinnacleofexistance
I am a good sized woman who has carried my short but stout father. I am amazed that they didnt just pick her up and truck her off.
ironsonic
https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w
AlkeneThiol
Thank you now I understand the comment above.
N0SF3RATU
Haliburton, Raytheon, Boeing, and [enter your military contractor here] security sure are nicer than cops in Louisiana
sc363
They must not be very strong or she's ripped, she looks like she's basically letting them do it...
siccoyote
She's not even had a succulent Chinese meal beforehand.
1998wasthepinnacleofexistance
I love you.
cfbshank36
I don’t understand your reference, care to share?
siccoyote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebF2cgmFmU
leeempire
Totally. She was speaking loudly but was screaming incoherently which helped.
JCBalance
I went and upvoted a bunch of your shit to make up some of the difference. Typos are a bicht
leeempire
You rock! Thank you!
NayaTaylor
You couldn’t understand what she was saying? Dang might wanna get those ear balls looked at
PataRican
Pretty sure he meant wasn't. Otherwise the statement wouldn't make sense.
leeempire
It’s true! That is exactly what I did. Unfortunate mistake. I deserve some hate though for what it potentially implied on the first read.
PataRican
It happens man. You don't deserve it because it's pretty obvious it was a typo, but this is the internet.
arghthisissohard
Did you mean to say ‘wasn’t’ instead of ‘was’?
leeempire
Yes! The context is totally there but not overly obvious. Worst typo ever. I deserve the down votes Hahaha
leeempire
I meant “wasn’t screaming” which is why I ended the sentence “which helped”. That typo was horrible. I deserve these downvotes hahaha
joinusjoinusjoinus
I think you’re agreeing with the comment you replied to and misspoke—hoping “screaming incoherently” wasn’t your intended phrasing
leeempire
You are correct! The context is there but not obvious. I deserve the hate! Hahaha
joinusjoinusjoinus
I think ppl just enjoy dog piling, you don’t deserve it ? I’ll go upvote two of your other comments. Congrats on not being a shitbag
leeempire
High fives for not being shit bags!!!
CivilizedUndead
Just on a side note: Syria is the fault of Assad, not the US. All Assad had to do was resign and call elections, he refused.
Miller16of16
If US, Turkey, SA had not paid, trained, equiped, imported upward of 60k foreign Wahabbi mercs it wouldn't have lasted a year.
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Wait. Hold on. Are you implying that the US intentionally created, trained, and funded ISIS? I’m all ears to hear this rambling conspiracy
Miller16of16
AlQaeda affiliates a go-go, and knew much of the hardware was finding its way to ISIS. Short memories, "Timber Sycamore"
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
I’m quite familiar with Timber Sycamore, which covered the south. Under the MOC support, neither Jabhat al Nusra nor ISIS were relevant 1/2
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Actors in the area covered by that operation. The support played a more positive role in eliminating space for radical groups. Other 2/3
Chimichanga007
If that happened in the USA would you want other countries bombing us, destroying infrastructure, and causing collateral damage, deaths?
CivilizedUndead
The US didn't go on a massive air campaign in Syria, the destruction in Syria is mainly due to the civil war and Russian bombings.
Chimichanga007
Oh, just a little bombing!
CivilizedUndead
The targets were mainly ISIS, and chemical weapons sites.
Pharmakon01
Umm what about Iraq war victims, , Pakistan?
Pharmakon01
abu ghareeb jail did you hear about it!!!
CivilizedUndead
Different issues, the US is 100% guilty of those. I'm simply pointing out the Syria issue. Disclosure: I'm from Pakistan.
Chimichanga007
/2 Does the USA really have a moral high ground, or moral motives to bomb there?
VonLiptonSchtein
I don't agree with bombing, but I think intervention is important, since Assad is a regime and has been bombing his own ppl too
Chimichanga007
But that's not why USA is there. That's just the excuse. And when have these interventions EVER turned out well in ME?
VonLiptonSchtein
What's the real reason then? And they haven't b/c they have been like this. We need different intervention to protect Syrians and others
CivilizedUndead
If you're talking about the recent bombing, Iranian backed militias killed a US contractor, and injured US soldiers. Biden had to respond.
Chimichanga007
We could not occupy Iraq. Like the American and Iraqi people want.
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Khatapillah
Preach!
Mack1986
Yeah let's forget serbia committing mass genocide while all of Europe stood by and wagged their fingers
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Khatapillah
Fuck off. The entire area had in fighting like Israel and Palestine for centuries. NATO just picked a side
Mack1986
Ahh so you support the genocide. Got it.
CtTraceur
I am not caught up enough with current events to know how to properly react to this.
BSwann
Lol current events it's been going on for 7 years.
Frozenspokes
It's been going on since the '90s. I was in Dahran and we had to evacuate diplomats from Sana because of civil "unrest".
JimmySmits
Now that you know that, you should do some research on your own and remedy it. Then form an opinion, and maybe even act on it.
CtTraceur
I agree
pastramionrye
She’s highlighting the feckless grifting the American leadership and media are doing to the American people about why we need to bomb ppl.
leeloumultipass
Basically everyone let’s Saudi Arabia get away with everything even though they’re the biggest contributor to destruction in the Middle East
leeloumultipass
9/11 hijackers were Saudi, they funded ISIS + other terror cells, they’re bombing the shit out of Yemen, they sent a hit squad to Toronto
Vaars
Saudi Arabia is killing civilians in Yemen. Iran has stuff to answer for too, but much less. The former gets a pass, the latter doesn't.
tyrpestdeath
Imagine your roommate tells you to clean the dishes or you'll get kicked out. You clean the dishes, he moves out, your next roommate is 1/?
tyrpestdeath
is like, "clean the dishes or get kicked out!"... But you did. And he files for eviction anyway. You're on your third roommate and could 2/?
tyrpestdeath
give a fuck less about the dishes anymore because they're just hellbent on kicking you out. That's basically Iran and the US right now. 3/3
Dilehk
It's like the al Qaeda and the US in Afghanistan except the US did not need a big contrey to help in a proxy war
NomadicPaladin
Sat right next to her group in a briefing once. Sometimes they get it and other times their protesting is way off the mark, but hey,....
NomadicPaladin
...the 1st Amendment rocks for a reason and it's people like her who put it to good work.
lucky13kenny
I'm sure the armchair journalists of Imgur will fill you in
AtlasMorrow
THIS COMMENT IS THE BEST. It cannot be understated how valuable acknowledgement of our own knowledge gaps is-I DONT KNOW is a GOOD response!
Fedotia
Short version → Saudi despot keeps enough $ pouring into US politics so their enemies are US enemies.
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itsthebarrelbombdotcom
The Gray Zone is a trash source. It’s like the equivalent of Breitbart but backed by authoritarian regimes.
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
For context, even Wikipedia banned them as a source due to poor reliability https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources
SexySexyChicken
Oh cool! It’s like Vice news but obviously backed by authoritarian governments in Russia China and Syria! Wow!
Teawrecks66
More or less she's not wrong.
VonLiptonSchtein
I feel like 'peace' isn't an option since it would help the regime but sanctions aren't good/useful either. But I also know little too so ?
haggerton
The US "regime" has much more to answer for than the Iranian one.
MantisTobagganMD
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
MantisTobagganMD
Iran is still no fucking saint...but yea, we should not, in any way shape or form, be allied woth SA. They are an evil regime.
ImAFoxButNotReally
Cradle of terrorists.
SpitMatt
The entire world sees it the same way she does, but the US Media Loom spins it as if Yemen is somehow Iran's fault...
HijabiHomegirl
Because a big chunk of it is,though not entirety.
superdupertrooper
They're funding & training Houthi rebels, so...Yes, the Saudis are awful, using cluster munitions & causing famine, but Iran is at fault too
montyman185
Yeah, just leave the area, the US really shouldn't be involved
superdupertrooper
With fracking & small intn'l trade, the US is already withdrawing from key regions worldwide. War & famine will fill the Pax Americana void
superdupertrooper
If you're into geopolitics, check out Peter Zeihan's latest book "Disunuted Nations" about the fall of global order. Well written if grim
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Not sure anyone is claiming Iran is a paradise state and undeserving of censure.
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
Pretty much how Iraq was 9/11's (top hint it wasn't it was Saudi Arabia's but fuck facts)
pareidoliaperson
Bin Laden is pretty Saudi Arabian. So yeah...
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
IIRC all of the pilots were Saudi born in the terrorist attacks.
BenjaminMu
And Al’Queda was funded by Saudi Arabia too. So... if you pay for something, and you’re the one to do it, must be Iraq’s fault!
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
15 out of 19 of the perpetrators, so not all, but a notably high ratio.
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
What the Saudis are doing in Yemen is reprehensible but the Iranians are also very much involved and heavily supporting the Houthi side.
SergiousMaximus
Good on you lady, as futile as it is.
OverMyDadBody
Good people make a difference!
RetiredLineCook
Let’s help it not be futile
troiski
Amen!
Lledargo
"you can make a speech outside" okay, but the people who need to listen are in that room...
sliveroflight
KoalaOnTheJuice
The powerful love protest. They do. Ideally 1 person, "peaceful" (they get to define that), with no one to hear them, safe in a locked room.
harambedaycare
Only futile because we watch rhen complicitly go back to work shrugging, "not my problem".
threenotch23
If we could stand up and help her it would not be futile, it would be inevitable
catholiccolor117
Make love not war. I never understood meaness or hate for we all one human race
worldling
I wish I was in that room. I would clap and cheer for her
RetiredLineCook
Man I woulda charged up there and help her stand up and let her continue speaking.
Imnormal
No she did good. She will go to jail but all in all was pretty peaceful
ukalliq
A petite middle-aged white lady will NOT go to jail for this.
Imnormal
She should atleast spend the night. She has a record so I doubt they let her off with a warning.
VonLiptonSchtein
I feel like you misunderstood 'futile', it means that it isn't going to change anything even if it was good that she did it
Imnormal
We are talking about it aren't we? Going to war takes a vote. We can influence that vote if aware of what's going on.
SneakEFoxxe
I don’t think it does? At the very least if the populous had any influence Vietnam wouldn’t have happened
Imnormal
I argue, the rhetoric is close to the same that is currently being tried now. Except globalization has helped close the information gap. 1/
Althox00
An officially declared war is an act of congress, but the president has the power to send troops into combat without the declaration.
someonesdissapointment
Fuck yes. I was happy to see the recent administration leave however, that doesn't mean an angel team sits there now.Sanctions hurt the poor
IveGotRedOnMe
Is it just me or is that a 2018 timestamp in the top left corner at the beginning? How old is this?
ridetheshoopuf
And no sanctions hurt activists. Those thugs they send to kill peaceful protesters are paid from the money now the government is short on.
DarkAngelWarlord
well what can we do? political assassinations of iranian leaders would just trigger a war
Mr21782Man
They do. The problem is that regimes will use humanitarian aid for weapons that harm even more. At some point the people have to take charge
DuxNautarum
That's the point. Sanctions cause the people to petition their government for change.
Chimichanga007
Tell that to the mom who can't feed her starving children?
DuxNautarum
Let her tell it to her government.
Chimichanga007
someonesdissapointment
She does. And they ignore her. They are accused of being "libtards" when they do because they want basic human needs equally distributed
leechdemon
I don't disagree, but so do wars. What's the middle ground?
Fedotia
1) Give waivers for sanctions so they can sell oil again instead of pirating iranian ships so they have a reason to get back into compliance
Fedotia
with JCPOA 2) Use JCPOA as a base for another treaty to have them limit support to Hezbollah and missile tests 3) Stop this near-war
Fedotia
situation and treat them like a normal country.
ridetheshoopuf
Assuming the question is legitimate, the sanctions are actually the middle ground. The extremes are war and leaving the theocrats alone.
GigglesMaster
As an Iranian, yes!!! People can’t afford bread.
parkerh17
Yeah we've been committing war crimes against Iran and ppl still act like Iran is somehow the bad guy. Makes me sick.
DuxNautarum
An embargo is not a war crime. And they are the bad guy.
parkerh17
We blocked them from receiving medical supplies which is a war crime. We broke international law to prevent them ppe in the middle of a 1/
parkerh17
Pandemic. 2/2
GigglesMaster
Don’t get me wrong, the Iranian government is terrible and criminals too!! But in end, people keep suffering from both ends
physcistwithbiceps
As an African, you guys have bread??!
TheFastpaws
I'd help you but I barely get around myself.
jogthejewelsquickly
This is dark AF and also accurate
physcistwithbiceps
Hey that's racist!
physcistwithbiceps
poscduke
So what's the solution
venomlash
Legitimize comparative moderates like Rouhani by engaging with them and reaching fair compromise. Show that rapprochement is good for the
venomlash
economy, that they can give up nukes without becoming a vassal state, and that it'll make them prosper. That establishes a foundation for
venomlash
further engagement on other issues (e.g. regional politics). Unfortunately, it relies on mutual trust, and Trump torpedoing the deal kinda
venomlash
ruined a lot of hard work to establish trust. Right now both sides are posturing, seeing where the goalposts are going to be set.
TheFoxCouncil
The Iran Nuclear Deal was a pretty good one. But that bridge has burned.
yoozernaiym
Something like the Iran nuclear deal was ideal, but a certain someone likely ruined that opportunity
parpy
Yeah, good luck getting Iran back on board to comply with ANY agreement offered by the U.S. now that we've proven to reneg on a whim.
Miller16of16
Rejoin the JCPOA as written, lift the sanctions, continue verification regimen before hardliners force the issue by making a nuke.
LampLighterN7
Well how did we deal with the IRA? Address legitimate grievances. America doesn’t see them as human, so they don’t care what happens to them
stereomiljac8888
Fuck off trying to be world police.
totallyOC
TheOkayCaptain
Okay, but wouldn't it be kinda bad if Iran had nuclear weapons? Do we need an even stronger North Korea?
AMoldyStump
colour me ignorant but who gives a fuck, no country is ever going to fire a nuke unless they are absolutely backed into a corner 1/?
AMoldyStump
the shear number of nukes out there means no one wins so no government will ever use them. and as long as the US and Russia have the most 2/
stereomiljac8888
IDK, and for sure that are some serious questions. I just dont get USA need/urge to go arround world and meddle.
TheWhiteBarry
It's bad that they exist at all but Pandora's box is open now. Who are we to dictate who can and can't have them?
venomlash
Maybe it's objectively true that a murderous dictatorship that constantly threatens to incinerate its neighbor shouldn't have the most
nickwinters
Bernie.
poscduke
What is his proposal then?
LuminoZero
Ah yes, one word answers everything.
nickwinters
It's a strong start
LuminoZero
Name me three legislative accomplishments tied to Bernie Sanders in his 50 years in Congress.
itsjustafatkid
After seeing the last shit stains in office, fuck it. What do we have to lose? I’ll keep voting when I can for the guy.
PaintedSlate
Every election will shift towards better or worse to a small or large degree. So we can always do worse... and we can always do better.
PaintedSlate
So no, we have a ton to lose. Sanders has been a great candidate never quite popular enough with the ridiculously broad left coalition.
Goldensands
Yes phrase it as if you’re somehow taking a chance by voting for the one guy with sensible policies. It’s proven to work ffs, healthcare is
Goldensands
Not some gamble, nor are basic unions gonna steal your cookie crumbs
LiteralDude
Well the prior administration, as bad as it was, at least deviated from the war mongering mantra of mainstream Repubs and Dems
parpy
I applaud Trump for withdrawing troops and no new wars, but he sure wasn't hesitant to help obliterate Yemeni citizens at the Saudi's behest
LiteralDude
That’s true
venomlash
Did you miss the part where Trump blew up an Iranian general during a visit to Iraq, thereby inciting issues with BOTH countries?
LiteralDude
That instance was nothing compared to the past five presidents
venomlash
Assassinating officials in an undeclared war = good. Air support for revolutionaries against a terroristic despot = bad. Got it.
venomlash
The Obama admin pursued diplomatic solutions. The Trump admin had a schizophrenic policy of isolationism + incitement.
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venomlash
It may be news to you, but Trump not only expanded the use of airstrikes but also rolled back Obama-era transparency rules on them.