Rabbi sues Florida against abortion law

Jul 3, 2022 9:45 AM

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Your move Supreme Court. Do you deny his first amendment rights or do you create a national exodus from Christianity to Judaism?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rabbi-fighting-floridas-anti-abortion-law-is-on-a-mission-to-help-religious-groups-challenge-theocratic-tyranny/ar-AAYYj7d

Good man, pray for his success.

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"You can't have a religious exemption for murder" - SCOTUS

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I was hoping this would happen, Satanists organizations are suing elsewhere in the country as well. Sending so much support to everyone <3

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Silly Jew, 1st Amendment right only apply to certain Goyim.... I wish that was sarcasm.

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They will deny him because he is not christian and therefore not worthy of consideration.

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This is where they rule that the freedom of religion means the freedom to practice any form of christianity you want.

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Do you think we got to this point because of people in power respecting religions and beliefs other than their own?

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welp. time to convert to judaism

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Are you asking about the court dominated by christian religious fundamentalists?

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The Supreme Court only removed the Federal assurance to the right to abortion. The individual states' legislatures drafted the laws making

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abortion legal or illegal state-wide. This lawsuit will go to Florida's courts, so we'll have to see how that goes.

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They'll just declare that there are "reasonable limits" to what religious practices are acceptable using honor killings as an example of bar

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another fine reason for the totalitarian christianism to put jews in camps. Wake the fuck up, people.

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"It's the height of chutzpah for people to tell the Jewish people what the Bible means and lecture the Jewish people on the sanctity of life

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There is no separation between OUR church and OUR state.

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OUR church and YOUR state.

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Can you clarify what you mean with this?

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I think they're saying christofacists mean "NOT YOURS, so you should gfy." Should be fun when the internecine conflicts begin.

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They think catholics and fundie evangelicals can share a theocracy, lol.

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Only the superstition of the MAGAs counts and they think the state / USA belongs to them also.

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Gotcha, thanks!

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The constitution exists when it suits their argument, when it doesn't meet what they want they ignore it, a lot.

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I think they're trying to kill off low income, d votes since covid ravaged r votes & are trying to level the playing field a bit.

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As wealthy people will have access to the option to live and everyone else will not

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Good bless the Jews. All non-christians and atheists are rooting for you on this. Go get em!

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God Speed Rabbi.

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I am reminded of Dan Simmons's book Hyperion and how he discussed the decline of Christianity. I think it may be accelerated->

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to decline sharply before we develop interstellar travel

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I have a list of people I would like to invite the Shrike to visit, in the meantime.

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Too bad it cannot be so easily summoned. The Shrike is a mystery beyond the comprehension of humans.

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Real talk, I read those from the library when I was like 13. Don't remember much, but even then I was real frickin' confused by the shrike.

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Just... everything about it and how it functioned. The memory of that confusion has stuck with me. Also the cool pointy metal mental images.

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Who had a Rabbi challenging reproductive laws for June or July 2022?

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This could set national precedent. You want to play the religion card? Let's get'em, Rab-bois!

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Works for me...

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False. “Precedent” as a concept went out the window when they overturned Roe. Court rulings are just another political football now.

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Not sure, but definitely incorporating 'rab-bois' into my convos

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We've seen how much SCOTUS cares about precedents

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SCROTUS

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Exactly. We need laws not precedent...

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"Stari decisis"is for suckers! Why be bound to previous decisions,even though there's no major changes in law/society? Aka:Rules4Thee,Not4Me

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Aka: I'll impose my will upon you, without regard for fairness, or law, using any metrics I can. Aka: fascism!

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They're definitely going to deny his First Amendment rights. It's not like they actually respect Jews, considering how many Nazis they have.

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"NOT discriminating minorities is not deeply rooted in history and tradition of the Unites States."

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You are correct. Reynolds vs US is case law

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The only reason they even tolerate Jews is GQP's belief that Israel is necessary to kick off the literal Biblical Apocalypse.

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The gop is America's nazi party at this point. Unfortunately the bulk of their followers are too stupid to understand this.

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Or possibly (but hopefully not) don't mind the parallels

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There are a lot of them that understand the parallels, like everyone that went to unite the right. Also most of the talking heads understand

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I think they like the parallels

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I heard about this days after the Roe drop. Reproductive laws being challenged by The Satanic Temple AND a Rabbi.

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I usually support TST but am disappointed by their case. Much more interested in the Rabbi both bc I think it will gain more public sympathy

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& because when if fails (which I believe it will) I think there's a chance Jews will start to abandon the Rep party.

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There are republican Jews?

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There are, not many but they do exist. My grandma is one

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Of course. Religious zealots mainly but still not a tiny number. I mean, there are LGBT Republicans, too, so it's no surprise.

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*Cases. The Wisconsin one is weak, but the Texas one goes right to the religious rights nards.

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Please tell me I'm wrong but here are my thoughts:

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Please tell me I'm wrong but here are my thoughts:

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Please don’t post like this again. It’s painful to read.

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I don't understand how people can think that will work. Have you not noticed how often the right wing contradicts itself? They don't care.

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The temple of Satan has a similar suit and will likely merge with this subsequent lawsuit.

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I'm totally backing this guy but we shouldn't have to base our abortion rights on religion. If he wins, what about all non-jews?

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Check out the Satanic Temple

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...and their continuing quest to lose every lawsuit they bring of this nature.

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In the article, he says it’s laying the groundwork for other religions or atheist groups. It’s using the framework to fight it

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This is what I wish anti-religious Imgurians understood. Religion isn't for everyone, but this as a groundwork could be helpful for others.

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Well what’s fucked up is the that SCOTUS it’s not forced to review all cases, they can just ignore most of them.

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They need a lower court to rule in their favor first.

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If they refuse to take it, then it's effectively upheld in the lower court. Still a win.

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So you're saying we need to get the Satanic Temple to flood them with lawsuits against EVERY SINGLE STATE?

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Yes....flood the system

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The next great flood

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Exodus to Israel. Reasons vary, but they want all the Jews out.

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OK, but what if this prompts a surge in conversions to Judaism or other faiths?

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Won't change anything. Remember that these people do not believe in democracy. They are okay with minority rule if the minority is them.

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Their stubbornness will never stop me from repeatedly maintaining that the world has progressed since the 1600s, and they are a dying breed.

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It's not for them, but for anyone listening. You fight lies with the truth, and never give up.

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Just a reminder that Jewish abortion rights are nothing to do with choice, but to do with life. The fetus is classed as a “pursuer”, which 1

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Relates to the “Rodef” law, which relates to a murderer and a victim. The extrapolations of this extend into areas of morality such as 2/

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Self-defence, mercy for criminals (or not), and a mother who’s life is threatened by their fetus. In this case, the baby must be killed. 3/

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In turn this has refined into an argument whereby mental and physical risks to the pregnant woman (and future child) are taken into account

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Thus allowing an interpretation of Jewish law that permits abortion. TL;DR It’s not about pro-choice, but about the value of existing life.

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Which is somewhat ironic, given that this is the Pro-Life argument for abortion that most of liberal society can see as patently obvious

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Many on the right are convinced Jews are the enemy so of course the response will be to squash their rights.

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I’ve seen this one

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The very antisemetic blood libel conspiracy theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

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Yikes

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Yep. It's been around for centuries. I'd say about 90% of the criticism of Israel is just modernized iterations. "They're killing babies!"

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I would disagree on that. What Israel is doing to the Palestinians is objectively criminal.

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Thank you for demonstrating my point. I'd argue about it, but I really don't need to deal with another person oblivious to the entirety of>

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the history of the situation, pretending that the Palestinian Authority doesn't exist, and accusing the Israelis of "genocide."

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