Btw my friend is wondering for what political reasons denounciation of genocide seems to be sometimes considered as terrorism in the UK depending on who's children are starving to death
Unpopular Opinion here: And now it's all about privilege not genocide. Sorry, but no, I cannot support Palestine Action, not least because it's now all about them and not about calling Bibi to account for the genocide he's committing in Gaza Frankly I'm disgusted that Israel and the Jewish faith has allowed itself to do the things it has struggled so long against. Hamas, funded by Russia and Iran, must free the hostages (taken on Putin's birthday) and Bibi must be called to account.
If that tiny (I bet completely unarmed) old woman is terrorizing you, that seems like a you problem. Can we start a arresting total cowards for being terrorized by tiny old women, instead of the old women?
She was protesting the proscription of Palestine Action (which now carries the potential for 14 years jail time) and the government involvement in genocide
yeah, nothing new, England has been doing this shit for a long time, if you have an opinion that goes against the allowed one, straight to jail... First time I hear it hitting someone left leaning though...
I'm not a fan of how we are becoming more moronically absurd with dangerous outcomes for those fighting their corner across the pond here. America sneezes and we catch the cold
So truly disappointed/peeved/unbelieving of with Starmer who along with Sadiq Khan forgets that they're LABOUR Party members who act insipidly towards the poor and disenfranchised in the UK. Grow a pair Mr Starmer defend us and Mr Khan stop crucifying drivers trying to get from A to B in and around London! Abolish zero hours contracts and pay decent wages whilst trying to understand how it REALLY is in the UK today. Don't want it to be the same shit, different fly now do we?
The very first thing Labour did when they got in was take the winter fuel allowance away from 10 million elderly people. A few years before the election an internal Labour report estimated that would kill 4000 people a year, but that was when they claimed the Tories were thinking of doing it.
Remember that being an MP now is just considered a savvy career move and tough shite if you don't have much to start with because the day to day they decide on will just grind you down via their petty mean "ideals". The tories would never have cut the winter fuel allowance because those house-owning well-off older people (woopies) are their bread and butter who usually have very set ideas on law and order and what makes this country 'great'
UK police have their own secure mobile network so these are the phones they all have. The fire service and ambulances use them as well. IIRC they can use them as phone or use them like walky talkies and talk to multiple nearby units. The old analog radios could be listened to with a cheap scanner and criminals often did this when doing a job. Cops sometimes transmitted fake traffic reporting UFO landings, and waited for people to turn up!
This is the problem with laws that overreach. This is clearly not the intent, yet the woolly excessively powerful laws oblige the police to arrest people like this, as they have broken a law from a democratic government. But at the same time it feels like we're more happy with ranting about it on the Internet than engaging with the legislation as it gets created.
99% of laws don't _oblige_ an individual LEO to do anything.
If a cop feels he/she has no discretion about how/where/when they enforce law X, it's because somebody up their chain of command (possibly at the political level) has made a _policy_ choice on how the law is enforced.
We can hope that the cops knew what they were doing.... That it was malicious compliance (arrest the protestors!) to make the Powers That Be look like shite.
She's being arrested for violation of the Terrorism Act of 2000. I don't know what the exact legal charge is but it seems pretty cut and dry that the government is claiming that she is a terrorist by arresting her under the provisions of the anti-terrorism act.
Is there a source to back up the claims of what’s happening in this photo? A photo by itself can be used to tell a number of stories. I can think of a number of other scenarios that might actually be what’s happening in this photo.
The photo is exactly what it says it is. They arrested 500+ people at a protest. The protest was called a protest to support "Palestine action" that has been labelled a terrorist organisation. The problem is, people are protesting genocide in Israel, supported by a complicit government in the UK. It's difficult to ask for "action on Palestine", without those two words appearing, at which point you can be claimed to be a terrorist sympathiser.
It's not exactly though is it they were not arrested for terrorism as you yourself admit. There are hundreds of thousands of pro Palestinian marches any given week/month that draw great attention to the cause rather than these bucket list middle class 'oh I got arrested so this me as I did something' twats. They won't have heard of PA until recently and now virue signal instead of supporting the marches that, gee golly, maybe aren't linked to founders who lionize the 7th Oct attack like PA did.
Why does colonialism from Britain in this specific instance give imgur a hard on? The region has had a multitude of people groups in it forever, never just one at a time, and saying it should belong to one specific group is bullshit.
Chemantha1
She's so scawwy
Clockworkdancerobot
Nazism here, Nazism there.
Bizarkly
"She's a voter -- *that's a threat*."
5f355kfa9510
What’s she gonna do, walk away slowly? https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlaXBvNWdwZmRlMGU4aDlvZmk5ZzV4N2p4a2ZhNDRjamFlcW5wM3pkaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/m06taoyKCZpGU/200w.mp4
delightphil
Bet their parents are proud of them
MeMonty
Btw my friend is wondering for what political reasons denounciation of genocide seems to be sometimes considered as terrorism in the UK depending on who's children are starving to death
Malinut
Unpopular Opinion here:
And now it's all about privilege not genocide.
Sorry, but no, I cannot support Palestine Action, not least because it's now all about them and not about calling Bibi to account for the genocide he's committing in Gaza
Frankly I'm disgusted that Israel and the Jewish faith has allowed itself to do the things it has struggled so long against.
Hamas, funded by Russia and Iran, must free the hostages (taken on Putin's birthday) and Bibi must be called to account.
DropDrop
If that tiny (I bet completely unarmed) old woman is terrorizing you, that seems like a you problem. Can we start a arresting total cowards for being terrorized by tiny old women, instead of the old women?
Raoul97533
Did she make a Meme or something?
JamShady
She was protesting the proscription of Palestine Action (which now carries the potential for 14 years jail time) and the government involvement in genocide
Raoul97533
yeah, nothing new, England has been doing this shit for a long time, if you have an opinion that goes against the allowed one, straight to jail... First time I hear it hitting someone left leaning though...
khaoselement
Oh, look at that. Another Nazi utopia springing up across the pond.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Fuck Keir Starver.
memedrift2410
Ok Europeans. Time to hush up about "why don't Americans do something" you've got your own issues to sort out.
dixxienormus
I remember that and I remember the Epstein files.
cocainemonster
If arresting an 80 year old woman doesn’t wake you up to you being that bad guy, euthanasia might be the only option left
Muffyns
Where is the rest of the story why did they arrest her and what do they claim she did that counts as terrorism and what did she actually do?
cocainemonster
Protested the Israeli genocide in Gaza
WammoJammo
No surprise they are as screwed up as we are .
judithCat
I'm not a fan of how we are becoming more moronically absurd with dangerous outcomes for those fighting their corner across the pond here. America sneezes and we catch the cold
Ayemconfoozed
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJla2ZpaDQ0dHhycHFicXV6M281d214dWR6c3ozZHY3cHBocTgwNGMydSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/RhvdJp3UPoDfi/200w.mp4
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Aren't we glad we finally got the tories out? Here's the new government same as the old government.
gumblemuntz
No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in.
Frogyz
I am frustrated more so because this is a humanitarian issue, and no matter which 'side' I vote for they should care about peoples lives.
judithCat
So truly disappointed/peeved/unbelieving of with Starmer who along with Sadiq Khan forgets that they're LABOUR Party members who act insipidly towards the poor and disenfranchised in the UK. Grow a pair Mr Starmer defend us and Mr Khan stop crucifying drivers trying to get from A to B in and around London! Abolish zero hours contracts and pay decent wages whilst trying to understand how it REALLY is in the UK today. Don't want it to be the same shit, different fly now do we?
CarlBassett
The very first thing Labour did when they got in was take the winter fuel allowance away from 10 million elderly people. A few years before the election an internal Labour report estimated that would kill 4000 people a year, but that was when they claimed the Tories were thinking of doing it.
judithCat
Remember that being an MP now is just considered a savvy career move and tough shite if you don't have much to start with because the day to day they decide on will just grind you down via their petty mean "ideals". The tories would never have cut the winter fuel allowance because those house-owning well-off older people (woopies) are their bread and butter who usually have very set ideas on law and order and what makes this country 'great'
TooRexyForMyShirt
TalkingSnake
It's for my family.
TooRexyForMyShirt
Bunhyung
It's for throwing
itwasababyox
*into my family's mouths
knivesthebrutal
Yeah, at their family, jeez...
Alzeido
Are those Nokias?
CarlBassett
UK police have their own secure mobile network so these are the phones they all have. The fire service and ambulances use them as well. IIRC they can use them as phone or use them like walky talkies and talk to multiple nearby units. The old analog radios could be listened to with a cheap scanner and criminals often did this when doing a job. Cops sometimes transmitted fake traffic reporting UFO landings, and waited for people to turn up!
Jimthebutler
If an 80 year old woman is a "threat", you are likely in the wrong
LaffertyDanie1
Ummm no, not at all saying that's what's going on here but Trump, David Duke, Al Zawahiri, Ahmed Yassin, The Blind Sheikh....
germican12
Bullshit. Do you know how many 80 year old nazi supporting aholes are out there? Age doesn't stop you from either being a threat.
dashers
This is the problem with laws that overreach. This is clearly not the intent, yet the woolly excessively powerful laws oblige the police to arrest people like this, as they have broken a law from a democratic government. But at the same time it feels like we're more happy with ranting about it on the Internet than engaging with the legislation as it gets created.
trasneoir
99% of laws don't _oblige_ an individual LEO to do anything.
If a cop feels he/she has no discretion about how/where/when they enforce law X, it's because somebody up their chain of command (possibly at the political level) has made a _policy_ choice on how the law is enforced.
Sooner70
We can hope that the cops knew what they were doing.... That it was malicious compliance (arrest the protestors!) to make the Powers That Be look like shite.
tonehoundsmoser9
I'm glad you can still cling to optimism. My jaded ass just sees yet another vase of "just following orders" cowardice
tonehoundsmoser9
*case
fishbicyclerepairman
Kid Starver is going to collapse the government.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
LaffertyDanie1
Any source? I don't have a hard time believing an 80 yo was arrested but terrorism charges sound a bit ridiculous
LostCaterpillar
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8de6rq37v5o
She's being arrested for violation of the Terrorism Act of 2000. I don't know what the exact legal charge is but it seems pretty cut and dry that the government is claiming that she is a terrorist by arresting her under the provisions of the anti-terrorism act.
LaffertyDanie1
Thanks
amyamazeballs
So disappointed in the UK right now
just4thelolz
TheChunguskaEvent
BerryButcher
Fucking maniac, he's going to murder millions with that cake.
Daliena06
At least he's not that omnicidal maniac who picked up a can of soup for his family while he was out.
pfrazier21044
HumansArePrettyNeat
Is this the yellow cake I've heard about in Tom Clancy books?
FuzzyX
Let them eat cake.
MerryXMan
Is there a source to back up the claims of what’s happening in this photo? A photo by itself can be used to tell a number of stories. I can think of a number of other scenarios that might actually be what’s happening in this photo.
hullabanana
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqjyyzlwk2go
- The average age of those arrested was 54, and the most arrests - 147 of them - were of people aged between 60 and 69
Evi1Gav
The photo is exactly what it says it is. They arrested 500+ people at a protest. The protest was called a protest to support "Palestine action" that has been labelled a terrorist organisation. The problem is, people are protesting genocide in Israel, supported by a complicit government in the UK. It's difficult to ask for "action on Palestine", without those two words appearing, at which point you can be claimed to be a terrorist sympathiser.
raptorlight3000
It's not exactly though is it they were not arrested for terrorism as you yourself admit. There are hundreds of thousands of pro Palestinian marches any given week/month that draw great attention to the cause rather than these bucket list middle class 'oh I got arrested so this me as I did something' twats. They won't have heard of PA until recently and now virue signal instead of supporting the marches that, gee golly, maybe aren't linked to founders who lionize the 7th Oct attack like PA did.
Seethreepeeoh
This woman is older than Israel
PimpinKen
That hit home to me.
FuzzyX
She won by about 3 years.
DropDrop
Oof! Too true.
anobviousthrowawayaccountduh
Modern Israel, sure, but the region has been alternatively Israel, variations of Palestine, and parts of other countries for thousands of years.
JiffyPopPhantom
Go kick rocks. Probably be good for you to see daylight dipshit
OffTheGrid99
You said nothing of value
ninjafartball
Chilichunks
Hush.
POTUSBrown
Earth has been here for about 5 billion years. What's your point?
anobviousthrowawayaccountduh
Why does colonialism from Britain in this specific instance give imgur a hard on? The region has had a multitude of people groups in it forever, never just one at a time, and saying it should belong to one specific group is bullshit.
StewedTomaters
I don't really give a fuck who calls it what, ultimately, when the main Q on the table is "if this is indeed genocide, then why are we funding it?"
StewedTomaters
Apartheid is apartheid is apartheid.