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brickius
Pffft you think they read that thing?
ipvicus
Bible also has stuff about paying debts, but forgiving the unpaid balance after 7 years. How about we just do that.
FrankTheWallaby
If dems make something a law obviously basing on the Bible text, wouldn't that let gop make 1000 shitty Bible laws in response on precedent?
Vesane
That could lead to dangerous territory re "You may charge a foreigner interest, but you may not charge your brother interest" Deut 23:19
qyrriqat
I'm still waiting for the GQP to introduce bills criminalizing adultery and coveting.
Azazellosarmour
Anyone know that passage?
kublaikhan
Yeah, because they totally abide by that "Thou Shalt Not Kill" commandment as they cheer on the death penalty.
smooshiebanana
The word used is murder. It is only used in examples of premeditated killing with malice
the12thletter
The hypocrisy is a feature.
RealityIsOftenDisappointing
Not to harvest the edge of their fields so the poor would always have food to eat, was one of my favorites. Charity with dignity.
glamdamnit
This logic is decently sound. The Bible says Christians should not charge a fellow Christian interest. And if we are a “Christian” nation.
whitey211
It's cute that people think Republicans give a shit about hypocrisy.
Arcanum3000
Playing rhetorical gotcha games with fascists is a waste of time. They only respond to power in the form of violence (or the threat thereof)
011100000110100101100101
https://youtu.be/wmVkJvieaOA this is a good video about exactly why gotcha doesn't work against the fascists
oldguyexlurker
Sadly true. Which is why I believe the US is headed toward a division of states that may or moy not lead to actual civil war.
StereoOstrich
There are no student loans in the Bible…… see where I’m going with this
rouzuki
Like the GOP actually gives a shit, they just cherry pick and alter what they want. You can't make them see the "error of their ways" as --
rouzuki
-- they're either too dumb or already know it's wrong and don't care because they benefit from the misinfo.
paulwall117350
It's not worth the try because that's Jewish stuff, not Christian, and they will make the distinction clear. Also even in Judaism that only
paulwall117350
applies during the jubilee which is only when Moshiach comes and rebuilds the temple, which is something they disagree with also.
paulwall117350
Just for further reference, Moshiach in Judaism is explicitly not Jesus and this is why they don't like the Jews.
ageek3000
Dems about to bring a bible to a bible fight. About fucking time.
socraticmeathead
And all loans are forgiven after 7 years.
EatPieLander
Hmm ... glad that you pointed that out!
EatPieLander
Accurate ref, AND worked in Mr. Pointy!
ChewbaccaRocka
The bible also states every seven years they forgive all debts!!
TrueNorthernLights
Nice try, but the GQP would just say, "Don't be silly, we all know THAT part is wrong." And go skipping merrily off>
TrueNorthernLights
RealFakeUsername
Fun fact, this is where the Jewish banker stereotype comes from. Christians couldn't do it (sin of usury) so Jewish communities did.
cyanideslushie
They’re just be like, you’re right the government can’t then privatize things even more
SterlingArcherSecretAgent
They already found ways around the no-interest thing: fees. The end result is identical, but technically there was no interest charged.
UnattendedDeviant
Why would any lender loan money if they made nothing doing it. They'd be hiring people to manage lending products buy make nothing from it.
UnattendedDeviant
In essence taking a loss. Loans would stop. You'd need cash to buy your car., house, no credit cards..just debit. The economy would crash.
UnattendedDeviant
No interest on loans sounds great but no one give you $30k of their money to pay back in 5 years if you're paying back just what they lent.
searching4somewhere
They will just say it doesnt apply to that soecific part of the bible. Cherry picking is what they do
MagicalHamFlaps
we can go further, no student loan interest, no mortgage interest, no credit card interest
TrowelAndError
Every seven years all debt is wiped out.
MeatraffleJackpot
You know who Jesus is on record for hating? The moneylenders. Royally fucked up their merch stands.
AawesomeAardvaark
Then we wouldn't have loans anymore at all. Companies need to make money in order to exist.
MagicalHamFlaps
i have zero problem with a company making money, just the debt industry is predatory about it and keep people impoverished
Ionami
Im sure we can use our imagination and find better ways to do things, but people over profits should always be #1 priority
AawesomeAardvaark
I'd love to hear something better than mortgages for home-buying. I can't think of a better way to manage that. Same with student loans tbh
FuckmotheringxVampire
That would be a great idea if they actually cared about the things they say they care about and weren't just using those things to justify
FuckmotheringxVampire
Bigotry, dominion over women and generally facist beliefs.
putcleverusernamehere
We circle jerk ourselves here (I do it too) that we'll be able to come up with an argument that's logically strong enough that ...1/2...
putcleverusernamehere
...2/2...the cult will be persuaded, forgetting that they didn't arrive at any of their positions logically
CraftyGiant
The point is exposing their hypocrisy as much as possibly so you can later throw it back in their face.
UnattendedDeviant
More realistically they would use it to successfully throw Dems our by saying Dem policy would end all loans. Buying a car/house....
UnattendedDeviant
...would take full payment in cash because no one would loan money.
idiotcube
How much more hypocrisy can we expose? The people who need convincing will just ignore it.
FuckmotheringxVampire
Which, again, would be great if they cared about their own hypocrisy
hadtochangemyusernamecauseIgotdivorced
Yeah exactly. The orange man literally contradicted his hypocrisy every day. You think anyone in the GQP cared?
UnattendedDeviant
Tbf it would kill the economy. There would be no reason for any lender to manage and pay for infrastructure to loan money and track it.
FuckmotheringxVampire
Dude, literally one bad news day "kills the economy" so you will have to forgive me for thinking that excuse is bs...
UnattendedDeviant
We're equating "kill the economy" differently if you're seeing a "bad news day" as the same as only cash purchases for cars, homes, etc.
FuckmotheringxVampire
You are just underestimating the ability of "the economy" to adjust to changes as it has literally done regularly throughout history
UnattendedDeviant
Naah, only buying a car or home with cash....no credit cards, no loans, etc; is much different than "a bad news day" on economy
NessTheCat
Fuck it. Im up for that. Bye bye economy
UnattendedDeviant
Lol....You first....throw all your money away now. Leave the internet because you can't pay your bill. etc. Don't wait for the rest of us.
NessTheCat
Deal, you next.
UnattendedDeviant
Lol...Naah. Not me. You're the one wanting see the economy crash. So show us how you deal without it. So burn that cash and leave the 'net.
UnattendedDeviant
You still on? Haven't trashed your account yet?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They will argue that way, then argue a different way when it suits them. Outing them as hypocrites means nothing.
GarmBlack
Shit why just student loans? No interest on mortgage loans either.
Molochi819
We should be like, it is against my religion to pay interest on anything. Would it not be a religious right?
llandy
But how are the billionaires going to pay for their 4th mansion? Wont anyone think of the billionaires?
Xiphodin
Credit cards
wellladeedaa
And it's not "wait for the Dems", it's us. We need to litigate. Dems as a political party are still capitalists
DarkwingDuc
Those are private loans. Government can’t alter a private contract. But federal students loans, they can.
JiffyGee
Credit cards are a type of loan too.
KillingTlme
Then how will the rich stay rich? They have no actual skills, just the ability to loan money out.
req4adream99
Student loans are largely financed by the gov, so it would b more@in line for jst them
samanthadlcruz
the federal reserve will have to lower it's interest rate to banks to 0 as well.
samanthadlcruz
it would destroy the economy but i think that's exactly the point,... following the teachings of a death cult is a bad idea.
LurkerOfDarkness
Do it as separate laws so they have to argue it several times.
ProppaGanda
And every 50 years just completely cancel ALL debts
IconicM
Enjoy saving up the full cost of a house before you can buy one.
UnattendedDeviant
And a car.
ShamelesslyDrunkOldTimeyDoctor
Ban all personal interest. It should only be for corporations. Loan sharking the poor is pure evil.
UnattendedDeviant
So lenders would do personal loans out of kindness? I agree high interest is loan sharking but no interest means no loans.
lostlittletimeonthis
You have the default on the debt
UnattendedDeviant
Why would any lender pay for the infrastructure around loaning money and tracking it. Loans would stop. You'd need cash to buy a house
UnattendedDeviant
The economy would plumet and even Dems would toss Dems our if no one could get a car or personal loan because no lenders.
FlyingButtPliers
Lookup Muslim loans. They don't allow interest. This is already a thing in other countries.
Toastfrog
In new New Zealand student loans are interest free. Its great.
UnattendedDeviant
Sure. Student loans. I can't see all loans though. Like cat loans.
Toastfrog
Yeah or house loans..imagine how good that would be.. we have paid more in interest then paying off the house so far. Succks.
Toastfrog
Cat loans lol ..
rastilin
The government could lend that cash for buying houses, just like they make 1% loans to banks now.
UnattendedDeviant
You want the government (you) to take on the risk of people not paying back $300k loans? A government loans to buy cars too?
rastilin
There only practical difference between the government lending to banks and lending to people directly is the mark-up for profitability. 1/
rastilin
If the banks can lend money and make a profit, the government should be able to at least break even. 2/
UnattendedDeviant
And do it for free?
onlyawfulnamesleft
Sure, why not? Our taxes already bailed out wall street and big banks when they bundled high-risk. Why not just cut out the middle-man?