To be fair. IMO, All religions/organization are guilty of this. Everyone seems to gather together to see how far they came get away with violating someone else's Civil and Human Rights; while being Self Righteous. This world sucks!
The problem is these fake Christians are all obsessed with the old testament, which isn’t even the right book. Jesus literally called himself a new testament.
You know, if there is no god, they will just live their full life thinking they're right. No higher instance will put them back in their shoes, they will just have done what was right according to them, including worshiping a pedophile.
I just put this here because I often see "Ha they will see what they truely are and how wrong they were!", but let's face it, it can totally never happen too.
This is literally a passage in the Bible. Matthew 25:31-45. The Bible is quite clear on how the whole "I said I was a Christian all my life and I did my best to make sure that those I look down on suffered" ends, and it's not good if you believe it. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and thinks they can hate the downtrodden and cheer for cruelty has failed the open-book exam :/
The book is available, and the person is allowed to use it in the examination. Thus, it is an open-book exam. The fact that the participants are not availing themselves of the available resources just makes them dumb....er..
It shouldn't come as a surprise that a lot of religious people really want their scripture to be true because it means they get to look down on everyone they hate while they burn for eternity.
Depends on the version. Some require repentance and have nasty things to say about false believers. There's even a bit in the New Testament where two people, Ananias and Sapphira, refuse to share their wealth with other Christians and lied about how much they had donated to the Church. God smote both of them for their wickedness. (Acts 5:1-11)
No. Not really. Jesus was really clear. 1 Love God to a fare-thee-well. 2. Love your neighbor as yourself. In Aramaic, "Neighbor" means person who is next to you who is Not like you. Then the capper 3. Know ye are a Christian by the fruit ye bear. So its was never about just repentance. Its about atonement. If you dont practice 1 and 2 you haven't really repented
This dipshit I used to know literally said he can do anything he wants & ignore Christ's teaching as long as he accepted that Jesus was the Son of God. That's it. He insisted it was the "One Rule." He had 4 kids from 4 different women he didn't pay for. He said liberalism was "cancer" yet all his kids were on welfare. He was also in the Army Reserves & the biggest pussy you ever met. He would literally talk shit then beg for mercy if it got physical. Hey Rick Bates, go fuck yourself.
The whole idea of deathbed repentance is "hollywood christianity". It's nonsense. It's hypothetically possible to realize how much of a shithead you've been and truly, honestly repent right before you die but there's near-0 chance of that happening, and anyone waiting until they're dying to try and sneak it in is running a fool's gambit. If you believe that God is real, then he knows your every thought, /including your plans to trick him into letting you into heaven/. The only way deathbed
Then why does he make you accept Jesus died for all of humanity as the last sacrificial 'lamb' of God? Why does organized prayer exist? Going to church? He seems to like tokens.
In order, 1. Because God values free will per the Bible. If you don't accept the gift, then He won't force it on you. 2. How many conversations a day do you have where you already know pretty much what the other person is going to say? Dialog exists not only to communicate information, but also to establish relationships. Also the same as answer 3. 3. Because the intent is supposed to be learning and growing in understanding, not just walking into a room, singing, zoning out, and checking a card
Yeah, a LOT of the "big" christian organizations emphasize token gestures, pray aloud at every meal just to hear yourself pray, go to church every week to check it off your list, etc. But those things are openly antithetical to what the Bible teachers. There aren't really any token gestures prescribed in the Bible, everything has a purpose.
repentance works is if God is simultaneously powerful enough to be the God of the Bible AND foolish enough to be easily deceived by a tactic a toddler would come up with.
Problem is, deathbed repentance isn't what these people believe in, these are "through faith, not by works" christians. If you actively believe that some lady eating a pomegranate damns you to hell just as much as punting a puppy into a volcano, and the only way out is faith, that's the natural outcome of that belief.
I mean it's a natural consequence of faith-based salvation. Based on their own understanding of salvation there's absolutely nothing preventing an evangelical from accepting salvation on their deathbed and getting into heaven. You could maybe argue that planning to do so might somehow indicate that the person isn't sincere in their conversion, but the fact that it's on their deathbed is irrelevant.
It's a natural consequence of pride and a belief that god is a little genie that gives you access to heaven if you say some magic words more like it. It has nothing to do with "faith-based" or "works-based" salvation or any of that. Fundamentally the idea of deathbed repentance boils down to "I know better than anyone else how to live my life, so I'm going to live it how I want to, and then, when I near death, I'll say the magic words to get into heaven". That's incompatible with any actual
Bible-based belief system for like a dozen reasons. This isn't a "faith-based" or "works-based" distinction, it's a "do you think you or God are smarter?" distinction. Sadly, a huge chunk of people who call themselves "christians" fall squarely in the "I'm smarter!" bucket, and so believe that living their lives how they want and sprinkling on a few magic words/actions to get God to give them access to heaven is the best answer. But the Bible is very clear that that's not how any of this works.
Except, again, nowhere is this said in the Bible itself, in fact the opposite is stated. It's almost like the people in power noticed this religion of the poor was expanding quickly and they came in and made sure that it would benefit them. Then when the peasants decided that tithes were bullshit, they started pushing the idea that you'd get into heaven just for saying you believe, and therefore you don't have to follow any of the teachings and just do what we tell you
guitarfourtysix
copingcabana
A Christian is someone who has read the bible. A "radical liberal socialist" is someone who understood the bible.
KoalaOnTheJuice
That's right. All the way down.
Macetheace50
To be fair.
IMO, All religions/organization are guilty of this.
Everyone seems to gather together to see how far they came get away with violating someone else's Civil and Human Rights; while being Self Righteous.
This world sucks!
RooGryphon
the last words said to a maga/nazi as they die should be.. "go to hell....take the express and hurry the fuck up"
Sqeezytzatziki
Beautiful !! Sin, Confess Sin, commit more sin ! Quite the racket.
7qd26tttv7
Don't forget to donate 10% of your earnings
TomBrokaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djVzMyh__c4
TheMurderousCricket
Access denied. Even IDCLIP won't help.
dracklen
That’s my friend Will! Highly recommend checking Will out for stand up if you get the chance!
idiotsonfire
Thank god none of that shit is real.
mothmam
The problem is these fake Christians are all obsessed with the old testament, which isn’t even the right book. Jesus literally called himself a new testament.
IUsedToHaveARealUsername
You know, if there is no god, they will just live their full life thinking they're right. No higher instance will put them back in their shoes, they will just have done what was right according to them, including worshiping a pedophile.
idiotsonfire
I don't know if there's no god, but I do know the Christian god isn't real. There is no possible way a it can be omnibenevolent/omniscient-
idiotsonfire
As well as omnipotent and omnipresent, and then order Numbers 31 to happen. Or Psalm 137:9.
IUsedToHaveARealUsername
I just put this here because I often see "Ha they will see what they truely are and how wrong they were!", but let's face it, it can totally never happen too.
MKaiser
there should be a couple million other idiotic red caps behind the first one
Jarjarthejedi
This is literally a passage in the Bible. Matthew 25:31-45. The Bible is quite clear on how the whole "I said I was a Christian all my life and I did my best to make sure that those I look down on suffered" ends, and it's not good if you believe it. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and thinks they can hate the downtrodden and cheer for cruelty has failed the open-book exam :/
RockTheBackblast
American evangelicals reject Jesus and his teachings, but still have the audacity to call themselves Christian. It's an absolute disgrace.
Ghlargh
Is it really an open book exam when you refuse to read the book?
DukeDarkwood
The book is available, and the person is allowed to use it in the examination. Thus, it is an open-book exam. The fact that the participants are not availing themselves of the available resources just makes them dumb....er..
Jerad665
Worse. Someone else tells them what it says and means.
Bundalicious
Don't forget he most likely raped children or at least tried to.
cabalin
Hey, Christians gotta be Christians
ps238principal
It shouldn't come as a surprise that a lot of religious people really want their scripture to be true because it means they get to look down on everyone they hate while they burn for eternity.
They want "vengeance" for "sins" in others.
SunShyNeuhH
No. It's ALWAYS and ONLY about JUSTICE. What we need. What we want. And what's we seeking for.
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
But repentance for sins of their own...
LurkingSarcasm
"But Christianity does say you're welcome because you accepted Jesus as your savior and repented your sins right there at the end, so come on in!"
Rockafella83
QuartzPoker
Depends on the version. Some require repentance and have nasty things to say about false believers. There's even a bit in the New Testament where two people, Ananias and Sapphira, refuse to share their wealth with other Christians and lied about how much they had donated to the Church. God smote both of them for their wickedness. (Acts 5:1-11)
jetact12
No. Not really. Jesus was really clear. 1 Love God to a fare-thee-well. 2. Love your neighbor as yourself. In Aramaic, "Neighbor" means person who is next to you who is Not like you. Then the capper
3. Know ye are a Christian by the fruit ye bear. So its was never about just repentance. Its about atonement. If you dont practice 1 and 2 you haven't really repented
tolgabrotha
Sounds like an offer Satan would make.
davebarton315101
Men co-opting godly authority say that.
johnblood616
This dipshit I used to know literally said he can do anything he wants & ignore Christ's teaching as long as he accepted that Jesus was the Son of God. That's it. He insisted it was the "One Rule." He had 4 kids from 4 different women he didn't pay for. He said liberalism was "cancer" yet all his kids were on welfare. He was also in the Army Reserves & the biggest pussy you ever met. He would literally talk shit then beg for mercy if it got physical. Hey Rick Bates, go fuck yourself.
Myballzzich
A lot of Protestants believe this. It’s part of their once saved always saved even though that is not in the bible.
awkungen42
I've always found it asinine that people think someone else can forgive you for something you did to someone else.
Jarjarthejedi
The whole idea of deathbed repentance is "hollywood christianity". It's nonsense. It's hypothetically possible to realize how much of a shithead you've been and truly, honestly repent right before you die but there's near-0 chance of that happening, and anyone waiting until they're dying to try and sneak it in is running a fool's gambit. If you believe that God is real, then he knows your every thought, /including your plans to trick him into letting you into heaven/. The only way deathbed
LurkingSarcasm
Then why does he make you accept Jesus died for all of humanity as the last sacrificial 'lamb' of God? Why does organized prayer exist? Going to church? He seems to like tokens.
Jarjarthejedi
In order, 1. Because God values free will per the Bible. If you don't accept the gift, then He won't force it on you. 2. How many conversations a day do you have where you already know pretty much what the other person is going to say? Dialog exists not only to communicate information, but also to establish relationships. Also the same as answer 3. 3. Because the intent is supposed to be learning and growing in understanding, not just walking into a room, singing, zoning out, and checking a card
Jarjarthejedi
Yeah, a LOT of the "big" christian organizations emphasize token gestures, pray aloud at every meal just to hear yourself pray, go to church every week to check it off your list, etc. But those things are openly antithetical to what the Bible teachers. There aren't really any token gestures prescribed in the Bible, everything has a purpose.
Jarjarthejedi
repentance works is if God is simultaneously powerful enough to be the God of the Bible AND foolish enough to be easily deceived by a tactic a toddler would come up with.
Hackwitch
Problem is, deathbed repentance isn't what these people believe in, these are "through faith, not by works" christians. If you actively believe that some lady eating a pomegranate damns you to hell just as much as punting a puppy into a volcano, and the only way out is faith, that's the natural outcome of that belief.
maddeninglemon
I mean it's a natural consequence of faith-based salvation. Based on their own understanding of salvation there's absolutely nothing preventing an evangelical from accepting salvation on their deathbed and getting into heaven. You could maybe argue that planning to do so might somehow indicate that the person isn't sincere in their conversion, but the fact that it's on their deathbed is irrelevant.
Jarjarthejedi
It's a natural consequence of pride and a belief that god is a little genie that gives you access to heaven if you say some magic words more like it. It has nothing to do with "faith-based" or "works-based" salvation or any of that. Fundamentally the idea of deathbed repentance boils down to "I know better than anyone else how to live my life, so I'm going to live it how I want to, and then, when I near death, I'll say the magic words to get into heaven". That's incompatible with any actual
Jarjarthejedi
Bible-based belief system for like a dozen reasons. This isn't a "faith-based" or "works-based" distinction, it's a "do you think you or God are smarter?" distinction. Sadly, a huge chunk of people who call themselves "christians" fall squarely in the "I'm smarter!" bucket, and so believe that living their lives how they want and sprinkling on a few magic words/actions to get God to give them access to heaven is the best answer. But the Bible is very clear that that's not how any of this works.
PileOfWalthers
Nope! That’s literally only American evangelicals!
awkungen42
That's not how it works when it's part of the base religion.
TomBrokaw
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Well, there are other evangelicals who believe it, but you are on the right track.
mrsdowneyjr
I dunno, a lot of European rich people throughout history "repented" with large donations to get in
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Martin Luther has entered the chat...
TallynNyntyg
Right, you gotta pay your way into Heaven with ever-increasing tithes.
notreallyaclevername
Except, again, nowhere is this said in the Bible itself, in fact the opposite is stated. It's almost like the people in power noticed this religion of the poor was expanding quickly and they came in and made sure that it would benefit them. Then when the peasants decided that tithes were bullshit, they started pushing the idea that you'd get into heaven just for saying you believe, and therefore you don't have to follow any of the teachings and just do what we tell you
TallynNyntyg
I know, I was prodding at one of the 95 reasons Protestantism became a thing.