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Mar 9, 2017 4:58 PM
DanTuker
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ISmellManFlesh
Classic imgur. This was the one post raising awareness of a female issue on IWD, the rest were negative posts, and it has to get "debunked".
happyishturtle
Still think that birth control should be easier to get for people with financial issues.
fatherjokes
It also keeps old men from accidentally rolling out of bed in the middle of the night
SpitefulRed
Birth control is so much cheaper for insurance cos and the gvmt than rampant baby making; it makes no sense NOT to support it.
QuiteQueefy
Yep. Not to mention it prevents unwanted pregnancies, therefore lowering the amount of abortions some people have such a problem with
SecretAgent64
Rite Aid/accounts payable doesn't know & doesn't care what the diagnosis is, only what's on the scrip.
bloatedplutocrat
Some want to ban BC though it is oft prescribed by doctors due to menstrual problems (excessive blood loss is common). Do some research @OP.
BluBoxx
@OP the numbers she cited is DoD spending on it. You're response is mistaken, and doesn't address her argument.
IReplyWithGraphicsInterchangeFormats
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I cannot comment on woman's poster but the response is absolutely wrong.
HowardMoonsHotpants
'Get it out of pocket'. LOL
darthOnion
I usually get off in-pocket
sadpersonissad
Except the religious exemption for providing birth control extends to when it's prescribed for medical reasons. Her argument still stands.
Unicornzebraunderwear
Except the number she's using is for DOD Tricare which also covers BC as well for any reason.
graehall
TLDR; too busy trying to pulverise planned parenthood with my patently perfidious polarised partisan prejudice.
BluBoxx
Holy alliteration batman!
graehall
I definitely hit up thesaurus.com for that comment :P
whatupmyknitters
fuck i don't even care what the pills are for, both viagra/cialis and birth control should be covered regardless. sex isn't a bad thing!!
ISmellManFlesh
That's part of the problem, you should care. Because a lot of the time it's not about sex, it's about PCOS or hormone imbalances or pain 1/2
ISmellManFlesh
Part of the reason why politicians don't endorse the pill is because there's a shit stigma behind it that it's for sluts. Same as abortion.
whatupmyknitters
i said they SHOULD be covered. i wish the stigma didn't exist, that it wasn't an issue if it was for sex or not. my bc is covered (for now)-
whatupmyknitters
--i use it only as birth control, and i want it to stay that way. i don't want access to only exist for people who are able to prove to --
whatupmyknitters
--politicians or w/e that it's not to enable their 'sluttiness'. i wish the weird attitudes our society has around sex didn't exist, and --
WeHaveHeardTheChimesAtMidnight
There is only one case for a pregnancy fathered by god. And that is not even clearly confirmed.
hiyesthisissatan
Yeah and in that story he up and left her to raise the baby with another man.
HoochIsCrazzy
Are you refering to Zeus getting with Alcmene or Zeus and IO or really Zeus and everyone
supermonke
Wong statement.
AlabasterSexington
ohHiMark2000
Thavage
Celebrimbor
More like Wang statement amirite?
supermonke
Wong made statement about wang
CatPresident
Hmmm. Rearry wong indee.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
HAH! IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE'RE RACIST!
Unsafefurball
This just in: condescending mansplainer is wrong, shockingly.
ShuvitpumpkinWrecker
Viagra keeps people alive in our ICU. It's life saving plus score for boners.
Mastabatah187
Her face is giving me limp dick
Slapjudy
madgodrhinoprime
It also helps with depression from what i hear.
IAlwaysUpvoteSexy
I mean, sex is a pretty good antidepressant
WhatDoYouMeanIcantStickmyfingerthere2
Only if you're getting the sex.
KvatchGuard
Lagies and gemtlemen, i found todays fucking dick.
WhatDoYouMeanIcantStickmyfingerthere2
How so? I'm getting a divorce and haven't been laid in three years. But yeah, that makes me a dick.
KvatchGuard
Sorry man, i didnt know.
SuperTacticalSandwich
Feminists don't acknowledge facts because those are of the patriarchy
MintMission
You are about as bad the the rest of them.
SuperTacticalSandwich
Translated "you think for yourself instead of buying into what someone else tells you". Got it. thanks!
MintMission
I meant you are as bad as the feminazies. And no, if you frequent imgur and this is your opinion, you're just as brainwashed as tumblr crap.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
What if I told you that everything about the reply post is factually incorrect?
ItTastesLikePurple
Pretty sure it's a jab at how birth control can help with ovarian conditions but has a lot of issues regarding insurance coverage.
emkev
Well, I think it used to. And now it will be, again.
zephyrbell
I get cysts. I need birth control. If they take it away i will personally shit on each of their lawns.
ItTastesLikePurple
I can send over some bran muffins if you ever need help.
zephyrbell
I love bran muffins. They help me poop. <3
AnonBear
Yup. My sister has an ovarian cyst and all the docs tell her she needs the pill.
zhiana
Can attest that I was on Yasmin for almost a decade for PCOS and it basically solved everything.
Sereh
I had one that bled into my stomach. I'd rather be called a slut for taking birth control than vomiting uncontrollably every month.
zhiana
Wait is the pill not easily available (re; insurance) in the states?
Fluffyleopard
Ignore them, birth control is like $9 a month for the pill. If you do the other ones it can cost more
allisonisrad
Mine is $15 with private insurance coverage.
cattywumpus
With the ACA is is. Before, and potentially soon, you often have to pay out of pocket. Some brands cost hundreds a month.
tootscootinboogie
I still have to pay out of pocket :( Blue Cross in TX won't totally cover the low hormone pill I'm on.
cattywumpus
You'd think a hundred dollars/month would be cheaper than medicaid for a baby.
FrecklesIRL
Companies can deny coverage of it for their employees if birth control is against their (the employER's) religion.
edestlin
I work for one of these.
FrecklesIRL
My deepest sympathies, friend.
ihadtochangemyusernamebecauseIdrawpornasaliving
Yeah. Until ACA, I couldn't get it, and I needed it as a basic hormonal treatment due to a brain tumor.
annalushSL
My insurance covers mine 100%.
maravirocnroll
So much wrong here. Sildenafil isn't a blood thinner (it's also used for PAH). That number is from DoD, not Medicare/Medicaid, and is right
JarethCutestory
Huh? Don't you mean Mycoxafloppin?
maravirocnroll
Source: http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/benefits/health-care/2015/02/13/defense-department-troops-erectile-dysfunction/23350711/
GreaterDog
I don't know how someone could repost this from the FP just yesterday and not even read the comments debunking the reply. Memes and
GreaterDog
headlines are the junk food of politics.
QuiteQueefy
Birth control can be beneficial for a lot more than just preventing pregnancy, but I don't see that getting covered
misterskeItaI
My periods were so bad I had to call out sick once a month due to cramps and vomiting. BC and now I just ruin underwear.
IridescentPearlescentIncandescent
True that. Helped with my mood disorder so much.
Andilee
BC has helped me with my mood, cramps, and bleeding for months at a time. I was 16 when it started bled for a year straight till my 1/2
Andilee
Mom found out and said screw this you're going on BC. It was a God send and I was able to live normally and wasn't fatigued.
momijicat
Birth control helped me when I was having a period for 7 months.
TheLastSouthernGentleman
Covered by the DoD which is where this number is from
QuiteQueefy
Correct! But the sign's point is it's hypocritical to be ok with spending gov't $$ on viagra but not with spending it on BC and abortions
QuiteQueefy
She's pointing out how people are fine with gov't funds being used for viagra but protest it being used for abortions and birth control
TheLastSouthernGentleman
The number she is using is specifically what the DoD spends on viagra. She conveniently didn't include what they spend on BC
TheLastSouthernGentleman
Tricare covers BC. And plan B. They do cover viagra to the tune of 6 pills per month. Source: I worked in a DoD pharmacy for 10 months
QuiteQueefy
I think you are missing her point. The sign isn't saying "why doesn't the DoD cover birth control".
QuiteQueefy
The sign asks why those who argue gov't funds shouldn't be used for BC and abortion don't have a problem with it being used for viagra
bluecollarbiochemist
Actually, it is not a "blood thinner" (anti-coagulant), it is a vasodilator.
MeatMechanic86
Yes, thank you. Pulmonary hypertension.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
So you're saying he should do some research as well?
bluecollarbiochemist
Yes. Yes, I am.
AuntieIroh
Pharmacy buddy :D
Hoonshwama
Fun fact: Rogaine is also a vasodilator
CentaurForDiseaseControl
"Do your research"
BisonMooseDuck
why yes it is ;)
adr1an
Yup, they should have done their research, indeed.
Pengarr
I may be misremembering this, but I thought the whole reason it was marketed as an ED drug was it wasn't effective for heart problems...
hawlinrumpz
It works pretty well to reduce pulmonary hypertension and thus pulmonary edema at altitude.
bluecollarbiochemist
That's exactly the reason. The group at Pfizer thought they were going to lose their jobs. Turns out it had another lucrative application!
ShuvitpumpkinWrecker
Pulmonary vasodilator to be exact
bluecollarbiochemist
Mostly penile vasodilator. It is selective for cGMP phosphodiesterase 5, which is found predominantly in penile smooth muscle and the retina
chloramphenicolderivative
Not what it was developed for, but why it stayed on the market.
bluecollarbiochemist
I know a guy on the team at Pfizer that developed it for heart tissue. It didn't work. They thought for sure they were getting fired!
skrimg59
yes i love when knowledgeable people give detailed and concise info. Keep up the good work.
moosolini
I love you. I don't care who you are, I love you.
bluecollarbiochemist
RincewindTVD
So I can get a rock hard retina?
YourEx
Actually, it's not a "anti-coagulant" it's a much more complex system of chemical reaction which is more interesting. the correct term is1/2
Drosophilamelanobastard
He said that it was a vasodilator not an anti-coagulant. re-read the comment.
YourEx
Dickbutt
moosolini
This was very well-played indeed.
slickdickricktherockskippingchampionoftheworld
that was quite unexpected
bluecollarbiochemist
I did not expect the dickbutt. Nor did I expected my phone to keep suggesting duckbill for dickbutt...
APunnyComment
Vasodilator are my favourite dinosaur.
DrGingeBeard
Vasodilator is my favorite Harry Potter spell
bunnyrut
I thought it was a type of vibrator
OpenMindOpenMouth
Thanks. Laughed harder than I should have. Brightened my day. Made me motivated to get off the toilet and go to work.
terrorofthederp
Got to love those huge red bastards!
Arakmyr
And veiny
georgopolis
And their modern descendents, cocks
marcusyoyo
I've heard they can spit creamy goo up to few meters if they get agitated. Nature is beautiful
Pikka
Yeah, don't get that stuff in your eyes.
soulman901
redneckjep
woodenbadger
Also helps combat jet lag in hamsters.
PhooZzy
Us physicists don't take kindly to your type... *spit chewing tobacco*
aPrideofLions
By all means correct me if I'm wrong but the two have a similar effect on the flow of blood don't they? (anti-coagulants and vasodilators)
bluecollarbiochemist
Some overlapping effects, but substantially different mechanisms leading to vastly different side effects.
EBsdabest
1.anticoagulant- affect coag cascade -inhibit clot formation. Vasodilator cause blood vessel to relax. If by flow you mean preload- then no
EBsdabest
2. AC has no affect on preload and Vasodilators decrease it
HoochIsCrazzy
Medicare Part B does cover pumps for ED under durable medical equipment.
supermonke
A guy I knew was in that industry. He made an absolute killing selling penis pumps that insurance paid for.
Iusemyblinker
Did he pump up his numbers?
HoochIsCrazzy
You could say he experienced rapid growth, but the competition was stiff
Iusemyblinker
Sounds like a hard field of sales, full of swollen ego's
Tidusdc
What would the CPT code be for that? Asking for a friend.
HoochIsCrazzy
Semi-rigid non-inflatable 54400. Inflatable self-contained 54401. (1/2)
HoochIsCrazzy
Inflatable mult-component 54405
Tidusdc
stevetehpirate
The most surprising part is that those pumps actually work and can be prescribed by a doctor...
TheMayorOfTittyCity
They are surgical pumps implanted into the penis with a pump in the scrotum. Not the "swedish penis enlarger" style pumps.
stevetehpirate
Oh those! For some reason I had the most amusing doctor visit in my head.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
http://imgur.com/CUeB7Ni
TheMayorOfTittyCity
http://imgur.com/DFsZByh voila!
strviking
TIL I did not need to know that this was real
DuckMom
...but where do the balls go?
TheMayorOfTittyCity
That is a good question and I am not sure. I believe the pump goes in front the testicles but I would need a urologist to confirm.
MintMission
I don't understand the hate that birth control has. The same people who will take medications for diseases are against birth control. Why?
FirstEdition
If we make it universally available, it should be done through a separate system. But health insurance has been bastardized for a long time
FirstEdition
The issue I see is that BC is a regular cost, which is not really the purpose of insurance. e.g. auto insurance doesn't pay for oil change
MintMission
That's totally not true. Healthy insurance is supposed to pay for yearly checkups, blood tests, flu shot, dentist cleaning 1/2
MintMission
*I meant to say birth control is cheap. Yearly checkups probably are more expensive than birth control, although I need to double check.
MintMission
2/2 all together is a dime compared to cost insurances pay for pregnancy checkups/birth/etc. Insurance WIN BIG on birth control, not lose.
FirstEdition
The point of insurance is for unexpected situations. Otherwise why are we paying the middle man (insurance company)?
HoochIsCrazzy
Then why does insurance pay for yearly checkups, gym memberships, new glassses every 2 years, contacts, prescriptions for chronic conditions
QuiteQueefy
If it's only for unexpected situations, why does it cover vaccines, regular cancer screenings, physicals, and other preventative medicine?
FirstEdition
Yeah, health insurance shouldn't cover those things. Its not like insurance will reduce the cost of a known regular payment anyways
MintMission
The point of health insurance is to cover for health expenses... Sure, it also should cover unexpected costs, but what is truly expected or
HoochIsCrazzy
The insurance underwriters would tell you they would rather pay for those regular preventative things instead of unexpected expensive things
HoochIsCrazzy
Not against BC personally, but I think the arguments against covering it break down into 2 very broad categories 1) It'a against God's (1/2)
HoochIsCrazzy
law (see the Catholic Church) & 2) It is not medically neccesary so they don't want to subsidize someone else's sex life.
myronblayze
But for some people, it IS medically necessary
HoochIsCrazzy
Not disagreeing, I'm just saying that is what the arguments come down to
MintMission
Yeah, it's just weird that they think taking pain killers and diabetic ISN'T against God's will. Just die, you know?
HoochIsCrazzy
Ack, ok trying (poorly) to explain someone else's philisophical belief in 140 character nuggets....I'm sure there are multiple (1/?)
HoochIsCrazzy
theological arguments, but a big one for the Catholic Church (and pre-1930 Protestants) is Genesis 38:9–10. Onan.."... spilled his (1/2)
HoochIsCrazzy
On another theological argument is that the person of God's creation (life) is the contuation of life, so pain killers, diabetic meds, (1/?)
HoochIsCrazzy
etc work to continue and further life. Contraceptions by their nature prevent the continuation of life. So from that perspective, (2/3)
HoochIsCrazzy
purpose, not person, not sure what happened when I was typing that out.
Papabehhr
Good sign, bad sign, what's it matter? Women should have the right to choose in a secular society.
hardytardigrade
Can't women have the right to birth control AND we have good signs?
maravirocnroll
The sign is arguing that choice should be subsidized. Which is a good idea, fiscally, but "right to choose" isn't the issue here.
Papabehhr
Of course it is, they are trying to change the supreme Court to do just that. This just happens to be a current battlefield in this old war.
RWebb00000
they do and will. but they might have to pay for it.
Papabehhr
Which is fine
RWebb00000
yep. but i still get downvoted.
Papabehhr
Well, the issue is contentious so what did your expect? Personally, I don't care either way but paying for it does help poor folk
RWebb00000
i dont care much either, but it seems like a state issue to me. since they foot the bill of unwanted babies. i think.
TheFinalDoctor
Fine, IF AND ONLY IF men ALSO have the right to choose (whether or not they want to be a parent...this includes financially with the
TheFinalDoctor
understand that if they choose not to be involved, then they are giving up ALL parental rights)
Papabehhr
Which sounds fine but isn't it the reverse that's the issue? Forcing the woman to have it because the man says to? I'm no lawyer but that's
Papabehhr
... The issue, no?
TheFinalDoctor
Why would that be an issue if the statement is as follows "A person has the right to choose not to be a parent". He can't force her to have
hardytardigrade
Women should only have the right to abort if men have the right to knock women up and then take off? Those don't seem equivalent.
TheFinalDoctor
My scenario allows both sides to skip out on unwanted parental responsibilities. Currently only women can make that choice after pregnancy
hardytardigrade
Yes, and that's really the only level on which both sides are equivalent. Overall however, they are not nearly the same thing.
TheFinalDoctor
it sounds like your statement boils down to "Women and men are different biologically", which is obviously true. Just irrelevant
sprbwlshuffler
And a company should be able to choose whether or not they cover/pay for it.
Papabehhr
I disagree, but not necessary with this. Just idea that companies get to choose what they cover in general. Offer health insurance or don't.
sprbwlshuffler
I do think companies should provide some health benefits. But BC doesn't have anything to do with health. No woman has ever died (1)
philosofox
you might not know but BC is used to treat a bunch of medical issues. women have died of PCOS which BC treats.
sprbwlshuffler
I'm aware that it treats multiple issues.
sprbwlshuffler
due to lack of birth control. I'm all for birth control and having access to it, but you should be paying for it yourself. (2)
AnnieBahde
Meds, finger surgery etc all these are covered and no one ever died from a crooked finger. It's medical treatment prescribed by a doctor
AnnieBahde
Pregnancy is dangerous and can and does kill women. Since when is the line for medical coverage: will directly kill you? Acne meds, roseacea
Papabehhr
There are issues with a woman cycle that the pill helps. It's not just to avoid pregnancy. Not being a doc or woman I can't really say more
Angrywanker
Can the US really be considered a secular Society?
Papabehhr
How is it not? The religious have input but don't run the joint.
ProbablyNotAnActualElephant
On paper. In practice, conservatives make a habit of pandering heavily to the religious majority for votes.
Papabehhr
Of course they do, they would run out of people if they could lie about how much they loved god... Still just numbers and votes
ProbablyNotAnActualElephant
Numbers and votes and bad policy that sets bad precedents that damage the separation of church and state.* FTFY
WhitePhoenix
Government was intended to be secular. Some founding principles have some Christian influence to it, but Constitution deems it secular.
sadpersonissad
It's government is intended to be secular. Religious ideals aren't supposed to dictate government.
Papabehhr
They don't dictate, they just get a vote... This is exactly why voting is always important.
ProbablyNotAnActualElephant
That's not the way it works out in practice, unfortunately. Religion gets votes, so conservatives sign it into laws all the time.
ICantBelieveItsNotGanjaPlanta
Wrong.
Trexel
Yeah but deciding when a life becomes a life isn't a religious question. It can be, that question is the whole reason for debate
Trexel
Most likely agree that after the first trimester is too late. Why then? There's a heartbeat long before then, but it's still not really
Trexel
In human form yet. I just feel like if everyone could agree on that one question, it wouldn't be a debate. People ignore the fact that thats
Trexel
Most people agree**