Interestingly, there is virtually no "organic" citric acid. Back when it was extracted from citrus it would have qualified because it was from a farmed product (citrus fruit), but now it's almost all bacteria / yeast / mold fermented. I believe if you use a certified base such as organic molasses, and don't use GMO bacteria/yeast/mold you can be "organic compliant" allowing it to be used in organic foods as long they are aren't marketed as "100% certified organic"
There isn't anything about "organic" foods that make them any healthier for people than other food. They're produced in a way that's healthier for the planet, with no use of industrially produced pesticides and fertilizers. They also can't be GMO, but GMO food isn't actually bad for you. The real problem with certain GMO foods is that they can be trademarked and monopolized. This makes it so farmers always need to buy more seeds from the supplier, rather than just replanting some of the harvest.
I would agree in the wider world, but in the US where more than half of the food in the supermarket has high fructose corn syrup (which obviously voids the organic label), I would say organic is an easy way to eat healthier assuming you are eating the same foods
"assuming you are eating the same foods" is the key bit here. I think it's pretty clear that people who want to "eat healthier" would be far better off health wise swapping out even a few of their highly processed foods each day for plain old "inorganic" veggies and fruits, than swapping their entire diet to organic without changing the type of foods they eat.
Organic food can still contain cane sugar though, and HFCS isn't significantly different from cane sugar in terms of health, despite what grifters and misguided people may say. Both are a combination of fructose and sucrose, and both are unhealthy when eaten in excess.
incorrect. There is a clinically tested higher incidence of inflammation with HFCS compared to sugar, as measured by CRP blood test. I have personally noticed my own CRP levels go down when I stopped using it in favor of cane sugar.
Hard to say what Americans feel, but as a European who moved to the US, I find cane sugar to be much more satisfying, so I tend to consume less of the sweet thing (not to mention the massive taste difference). Additional anecdotal evidence is that I just don't feel well consuming HFCS, especially those with much higher fructose. Maybe that's just a quirk of my liver or having grown up without it for 2/3rds of my life.
I wonder if it's something else commonly used in the same type of processed foods, or the amount of it your are eating? Fructose is fruit sugar, and is found in almost all fruit. Some like grapes, cherries, blueberries, blackberries, and figs have almost nothing but fructose (meaning no sucrose, glucose etc) - do you ever feel the same after eating a lot of fruit?
No problem eating fruit, and I eat plenty of blackberries and figs. I don't buy things with HFCS, so I can't say what other ingredients the things may share, but I have felt it from quite a range of things, like chocolate truffles, hot dogs, sauces, and all kinds of random stuff, and in my quite quick investigations, at friends houses or events, the common ingredient that stood out to me was HFCS, it's also something I can often pick out from flavor alone, so that likely bolsters my assumptions
futhor
My very favorite flavors lack carbon-hydrogen bonds
duktayp
Not much electrolytes
OregonComputerGuy
There are some organic flavors I choose not to taste
Chooseausernameandyoureallset
And not inorganic flavor like minerals, but organic flavor like beaver butt extract making fake strawberry and vanilla taste better.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Yummy!
duoplicity
They do have meaning even if it seems obscure (it beats the E## system in Europe):
https://trilogyflavors.com/what-does-organic-natural-flavors-mean/
lifeisadadjoke
At least it's not "orgasmic flavor"
PorkFriedSquirrel
I mean, debatable?
thepicklebucket
THIS TASTES LIKE ORGANS
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
I'm gonna wait for the one that has organic sea salt, organic lactic acid, and organic citric acid, none of this weaselly halfway shit /
SmashySashimi
Technically most citric acid is pretty organic. It don’t get more organic than made from mold.
BIOSOIB
Interestingly, there is virtually no "organic" citric acid. Back when it was extracted from citrus it would have qualified because it was from a farmed product (citrus fruit), but now it's almost all bacteria / yeast / mold fermented. I believe if you use a certified base such as organic molasses, and don't use GMO bacteria/yeast/mold you can be "organic compliant" allowing it to be used in organic foods as long they are aren't marketed as "100% certified organic"
HillOfBeans
Earwax
REOJackwagon
It's the flavor of an organ. Could be a musical organ, maybe a flute
DocNitro
Flavor produced by an organ......so, semen?
REOJackwagon
Could be, only they know for sure
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
There isn't anything about "organic" foods that make them any healthier for people than other food. They're produced in a way that's healthier for the planet, with no use of industrially produced pesticides and fertilizers. They also can't be GMO, but GMO food isn't actually bad for you. The real problem with certain GMO foods is that they can be trademarked and monopolized. This makes it so farmers always need to buy more seeds from the supplier, rather than just replanting some of the harvest.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
I would agree in the wider world, but in the US where more than half of the food in the supermarket has high fructose corn syrup (which obviously voids the organic label), I would say organic is an easy way to eat healthier assuming you are eating the same foods
BIOSOIB
"assuming you are eating the same foods" is the key bit here. I think it's pretty clear that people who want to "eat healthier" would be far better off health wise swapping out even a few of their highly processed foods each day for plain old "inorganic" veggies and fruits, than swapping their entire diet to organic without changing the type of foods they eat.
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
Organic food can still contain cane sugar though, and HFCS isn't significantly different from cane sugar in terms of health, despite what grifters and misguided people may say. Both are a combination of fructose and sucrose, and both are unhealthy when eaten in excess.
ME2BNS12
incorrect. There is a clinically tested higher incidence of inflammation with HFCS compared to sugar, as measured by CRP blood test. I have personally noticed my own CRP levels go down when I stopped using it in favor of cane sugar.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Hard to say what Americans feel, but as a European who moved to the US, I find cane sugar to be much more satisfying, so I tend to consume less of the sweet thing (not to mention the massive taste difference). Additional anecdotal evidence is that I just don't feel well consuming HFCS, especially those with much higher fructose. Maybe that's just a quirk of my liver or having grown up without it for 2/3rds of my life.
BIOSOIB
I wonder if it's something else commonly used in the same type of processed foods, or the amount of it your are eating? Fructose is fruit sugar, and is found in almost all fruit. Some like grapes, cherries, blueberries, blackberries, and figs have almost nothing but fructose (meaning no sucrose, glucose etc) - do you ever feel the same after eating a lot of fruit?
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
No problem eating fruit, and I eat plenty of blackberries and figs. I don't buy things with HFCS, so I can't say what other ingredients the things may share, but I have felt it from quite a range of things, like chocolate truffles, hot dogs, sauces, and all kinds of random stuff, and in my quite quick investigations, at friends houses or events, the common ingredient that stood out to me was HFCS, it's also something I can often pick out from flavor alone, so that likely bolsters my assumptions