GiddyKipper
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Security saw what was about to happen and created a different outcome.
Oct 27, 2021 12:09 AM
GiddyKipper
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Security saw what was about to happen and created a different outcome.
GlitteringMisanthrope
I am looking forward to hearing the story behind this clip.
NoIWillNotFixYourComputerWhenIComeOverForDinner
ThanosTheGreat
Love how they gave him back his phone ? ‘here you go buddy. You dropped this and your jaw. Walk it off’.
which1ofuflatfootsstolemylollipop
So was he walking towards him to fight? Is there a vid showing what led up to nap time?
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
Yes, but the release of CCTV footage is actually illegal, even more so if it is evidence in a trial (like Security's Use of Force trial)
broketonystark
Well at least he has a lawsuit to look forward to. How many times do cops shoot and kill POC because they saw a weapon that was never there?
variiation
In the UK where this video is from? Pretty much never.
YouGotThatRight
People all making a lot of assumptions, perhaps a little racism here.
uncas5128
Why did they do that?! It's his phone! Could have killed him.
omgzwtfs
For real. The way his head bounced off the ground in the store and then outside is so bad, looks barely conscious with his body auto-pilot
Bonesy84
There are people in prison for throwing a single punch that ends up killing a guy, violence should be a last resort, because shit happens
DiamondDogLedTasso
What I see by the woman's posture is likely we called security on the guy & he came back. Guessing he made a threat, came back, knocked out
JesusofMethlehem
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10131663/Shocking-moment-Asda-security-guard-KNOCKS-man.html I can't find mention of knife
BallsackHippo
Might have mistaken the phone for a knife given the way he was holding it. One time, I was at a coffee and the cashier flipped out 1/2
BallsackHippo
because she saw a customer going to the bathroom with a gun stuffed in his pants. I saw it too. Turns out, it was a folded cap.
BellsTheorem
Are we assuming the black guy is the aggressor? We have no evidence, yet the post assumes something "was about to happen".
BellsTheorem
And looking at the comments people are taking a lot of glee in this racial bias.
SubzeroAK
Is that one of those sleep centers I hear about on the radio?
TiredSnowball
When I had insomnia due to illness, I would have taken it. No clue how people with regular insomnia survive out there with little sleep.
FullSpecial
Giving out free naps
DudeMcDude
It is now
HoneyBadgersAreBadAsses
Yes, instant cure for insomnia
TheCoachAdair
Waaaaay too many making light of some random black guy getting knocked out by a white guy for apparently walking into a store.
evilandroid
The Mirror article - "It is not known which branch of Asda the video was taken in, or what happened prior to the punch." (1/2)
evilandroid
"Asda told the Mirror it doesn't have any information on the incident and that it believes police are looking into it." (2/2)
genalead2718
If he was holding a knife it would be on the floor. I wish I had context.
BellsTheorem
I'm 90% sure that was his phone. The same one that was handed back to him after he was dragged out. I'm thinking this is just an assault.
BellsTheorem
What was about to happen? All I saw was a guy getting cold-cocked, dragged out and handed his phone.
YouGotThatRight
I saw no weapon, That guard was brutal. I think the guy just said something to him. Guy in white surely has a concussion.
Primexes
if threatened & he is able to carry out the threat, you can act first in self-defense. Sect. 74(4) Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008
LupusLilium
Even if there was a threat, that dude just knocked him out for a few seconds and he fell onto the ground. Dragging him out in such a way
LupusLilium
and leaving him is big ol' flashing sign for 'lawsuit right here'.
HiddenSanity
What threat?
Goatfer
Without audio it's a he said she said situation. until the witnesses speak up it can't be known.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
The best we can do here is say “a man got punched, by what appears to be a security guard, whilst approaching a shop assistant”
DaSauceSeeker
Circosys
trav1350
DaSauceSeeker
notDre
So we've established there's no knife, so this is either two things, dude in white walked up with fighting words, got ktfo, or /1
notDre
security dude is racial profiling where a black man walking towards me = fight. Hoping it's the former. /2
Atlasraven
Just my 2 cents but I saw a woman and the guy with a security guard in between. It looks like they had words. She walked away and he 1/2
Atlasraven
walked toward her with security blocking him. That's really all we know for sure. 2/2
HeadJamistan
Dear @admin why the do you care so much about removing sexy cosplays and art yet have no problem with brutal violence?
Snooj
Gonna need a *LOT* more context on this one before making any judgements.
six2midnight
I didnt see the knife. I just saw the nap the security guard gave him.
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TheWiseAlaundo
Its the side view of his phone when he gets hit it falls and you see it in its full size.
Bonnedad
It’s his phone
TreasonousCheeto
That’s 100% his phone. It was still in his hand when he’s on the ground. It comes out as he’s dragged and the other guy picks it up.
sambaah05
With this video quality I don't think you'd really see a thin blade all that well.
kriswinters
And down goes Frasier.
Itsmooo
So, was the guard charged???
somethingslightlyclever
Yeah this is assault. Tf is wrong with you OP? Change this title.
Edutittam
Why you always lyyyin? https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-knocked-out-single-punch-25303382
whorrorfied
That isn't security and he doesn't have a knife. He has a phone and a serious concussion.
IBroughtASpareDrainpipe
You are just wrong, moron, and should delete your yap.
PowerToAllThePeople
Omg ahahah what a fuckin moron ?
1stCivDiv1371
even if he is security and had a valid reason, his next action should have been providing aid, not getting rid of the body.
FreeTheTiddy
Yeah. Guy with "security" on his shirt isn't security. Great deduction.
LupusLilium
Then that 'security' should be fired.Just dumping the guy out into the street? Seemingly zero attempt to watch over him & call an ambulance?
inmotherrussia
Lol fuck him.
maststick
It took me about a minute of scrolling before I found the one frame where you can clearly see the point of what appears to be a blade
Kyrorayne
Found the cop
Nize426
It's his phone
zoeelane201
In his right hand?
BDD85
The phone you mean.
OuroborosX
I'm sorry, I don't understand this. I think they dragged him out like that because they knew they fucked up. I see no knife anywhere.
SenseiTheDefender
The knife is in his right hand.
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
Hello officer
Curmudgeoner
That's his phone. You can clearly see, right before he's punched, that is a black rectangle.
beAbetterperson7
The way the other staff is there, and security, I think we need to know what happened first. This looks like the end of a long interaction
StressedOut
I agree with you. This just looks like a random act of violence.
werrywerry
Knife or not, both their stances clearly indicate they finna fight.
OuroborosX
If he came in with a knife and that's security, why wouldn't they call the cops? This is just a guy sucker-punching a guy with a phone.
midgetsaw
how? security guy is already in the fighting stance. sth has already happened to provoke this reaction. without the full story you can't...
midgetsaw
claim anything for sure.
OuroborosX
Don't you think if he was an actual threat, the guard would detain him and call the cops? He dragged him out because he fucked up.
midgetsaw
yeah right.we'd have another george floyd. bouncers don't detain you (they have no authority to detain) they just beat you and throw you out
OuroborosX
So you're saying that the supermarket employs a bouncer? lol
Iloveblackcats217
I'm sorry but looks like he punched him for no good reason. Looks like assault to me.
IBroughtASpareDrainpipe
Look more closely asshole.
Iloveblackcats217
I can see that he's black and carrying a phone.
upsidedownyhead
Also, the source is a British newspaper, so it won't be hard to track down more info...
upsidedownyhead
And they is https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16553379/asda-security-guard-tackled-knifeman/
Iloveblackcats217
Yeah where's the videos from the first two entrances and where the knife? Police are still not commenting so I'll wait for more info.
maststick
There is one frame that shows what appears to be a blade, not easy to see though
somethingslightlyclever
It's his phone. You're seeing the reflection of the screen. It falls from his hand after the punch, it's clearly a phone.
upsidedownyhead
Security in the UK won't act like that unless there is clear threat.
serenityharmony
He was entering the store with purpose. Straight to the "security" guy. His intent was not good. He could be innocent but I doubt it.
msd3k
Actually looked like he was aggressively coming towards the woman and the guard blocked his way.
TielKiri
A person approaching you does not justify- morally or legally- punching them. One can’t just assault someone and claim self-defense just-
TielKiri
because you didn’t like the way they approached you. Like what if he wanted to ask for directions and just looked fierce?
RoyalWithChz
While I see your point, someone can definitely appear threatening enough to defend yourself with how they approach.
serenityharmony
Security person took 2 steps back in anticipation of an attack. He did not step back twice without a reason. Watch it again.
makeSX
We dont know what happened before this. Something was definately going on as the store employee in the front was also focused on them.
CanadianEngineer
Well personally, I’d need more context to say one way or another. But sure go ahead and make a massive jump to that conclusion.
serenityharmony
Retired cop. Not sure what he was going to do but his intent clearly is not friendly
bardock
No wonder cops murder everyone in sight when youre this suspicious and this scared of people
serenityharmony
The security guy took 2 steps back to avoid the confrontation. What was the point if he was the aggressor? It appears he defended himself.
CanadianEngineer
Sure, but was it necessarily violent in nature? How about leading up to it? Did the guy just throw a rock at him? I don’t know, nor do you.
serenityharmony
He wasnt coming to shake the guy's hand. He might not have intended to start a fight but he approached fast enough to be a threat, obviously
Iloveblackcats217
George Zimmerman is that you?
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
He likely was removed from the store, then came back verbally threatening. The security entered a fighting stance
PerpetuityPhoto
This. Stepping up on a guard at that speed is a bad idea. Especially when you've already been a nuisance before.
PerpetuityPhoto
This is a pretty clear-cut fuck-around-and-find-out situation
ABillionDucks
Clear cut if you're biased. "Well it had to be this way. It conforms to my preconceived notions"
Ponderpoo
Let's speculate wildly! Without further evidence, all I see is a man being assaulted.
speedislife
why do so many people think he has a knife? https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-knocked-out-single-punch-25303382
TheMayorOfTittyCity
That link provides zero information, its just the video and a description any of us could have written. Its a security guard obviously.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
He is doing some security shit. The video has like 18 pixels so no, no one can see what he has. Probly up to no good by the looks of it.
LoudBirb
You can see him drop it on the punch, then you can see a dude try to give it back when outside. It's very clearly a phone.
TwoWolvesHighfiving
No
ThisIsWhyIDontTrustPeople
I'm not sure I can trust a news source that refers to a person as a bloke. That's much too informal for a news outlet.
GruncleDandy
Oh sure but the sun is top notch...
HamishOakenshard
"a man in black attire."... Literally says SECURITY on his back...
TessierSendai
Security guards in the UK have to wear an armband with their SIA license visible inside it. He's not wearing one = he's not store security.
SirChadwellHeath
Daily Mirror " ...an Asda store in Essex - it is unclear where the incident took place". Later: " the Shoeburyness branch in Essex."
speedislife
I think they updated it and left the previous line in, I'm sure there was no ASDA statement when I read it last night.
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LoudBirb
That's definitely a phone. The other dude even gives it back to him at the end. Or... well... tries to.
imnotsureaboutthat
I mean, we never see him drop anything, he could have lost the phone earlier or while being dragged too.
Thorinori
You can see the phone falling to the left right after he gets hit and starts to fall.
KismetCrew
Couple frames later show it to be black and rectangular, so yeah, phone.
makeSX
Honestly you cant say anything for sure from that, too blurry, but you can see from the body language at the start of the clip that there ->
makeSX
Was something going on before the insident, as the security guard took back steps before hitting while they other person kept coming closer.
GalacticLord
It’s his phone you racist dumb shit
TwoWolvesHighfiving
No
grandestoptimist
Who said anything about race?
zafner
Am I the only person who can't see a knife? It just looks like he's randomly being punched
thatlamer
The knife thing is bullshit and people snitching on themselves.
drunkhistorian
Right. I was shocked to see this on the front page. Didn't even think dude was armed until I saw the comments. But then the phone shows up.
KlausKringle
'Good morning Sir, where can I find the kitchen u..'*BAM* ... 'he was going for a knife!'
iquestioneverything
Not very random, he's walking directly at the security guy who is clearly in a fighting stance.
heckingoodboi56
He should have complied /s
Lulabel73
Another comment posts a link with sound. It’s 2 people rewatching the video(in store) and one says something about “threatening to stab”
blackmetalcoyote
Looks like a phone, article says nothing about a knife or why he got punched in the 1st place, definitely his phone next to him outside.
totallyOC
What article?
upsidedownyhead
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16553379/asda-security-guard-tackled-knifeman/
blackmetalcoyote
There's a link in one of the comments
FurtiveGlancer
He's black - hence the white security guard is "justified"
Zenshien
I downloaded the video and scrubbed frame by frame, there's a couple of frames where it does appear to be a knife (links in next comment)
Zenshien
hyjukilo
And other frames where it appears to be a phone?
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tappersparty3
....smh....
shanyoncanyon
Definitely, huh?
BellsTheorem
Is that why they handed him a free phone after dragging him out of the store? It was obviously a phone.
DaxxTirend
All I see is about 3 pixels
Bonnedad
It’s his phone
sylkysmooth
No it's not. His right hand, you can see it after about a second in, focus on his right hand. You don't make a fist with your phone and >
sylkysmooth
> your phone doesn't stick out of that fist like a knife, not only that it's very much pen/knife sized and shaped.
hypermarv123
Same object in the top right corner at 10 seconds?
Alixzander
Thought the same at first watch a couple times look at the width not a phone that prob just dropped from a pocket
somethingslightlyclever
You're seeing the reflection of the screen. Not not a knife.
Alixzander
I'll watch again
Alixzander
Damm think you are right because it's in his hand when he falls right
wumpyweah
You gotta drag the meter thing so you can see it - I didn’t know what to look for till I saw your comment and slowed the video down to see
treeclimbernick
Yeah I’m not seeing it
Skiles2070
Was that not his cellphone, the other dude tried to give it back outside...
mstrmrvn
Looks like his hand does the regular flip-knife motion to me...
BDD85
Nah it's the phpne. Syncs up with where it drops and where the dude picks it up and hands it back.
zafner
Man I can't see shit. Maybe I'm just too old
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zafner
I'm sorry, I still can't see anything. Appreciate it though. Very decent of you. I'm sure it's just me
Op19
That seems like the same hand his phone falls from
ZebAsiz
I can't see anything in that shot. And the hand that's visible [right hand] was open and empty just frames earlier.
ThereAreOtherWorldsThanThese
That's his phone. The person near the end of the clip is handing it back to him. If he had a weapon the security guard wouldn't have just-
ThereAreOtherWorldsThanThese
left him outside and walked away. He would have detained him until police arrived.
fenomas
It's incredibly creepy how many giddy "ooohhh handing out naps" comments there are on this video of apparently random assault.
inmotherrussia
...... Violence is a part of every day life. Yes some people take too much joy in it. But some people are too squeemish also.
justadudewholovescats
or better one:" he fucked up and found out" not sure what he fucked.
gaenaralhonk
Being black in public. That's on him.
upsidedownyhead
Look up the source, lazy arse... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16553379/asda-security-guard-tackled-knifeman/
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I mean, he is the bouncer at a store. Most ppl probably assume he's not just randomly punching out customers. No context, but its his job.
1stCivDiv1371
no it's not, I've worked security you are a paid observer and visual deterrent.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
If I was at a store getting robbed and there was security just standing there observing and being visible Id be thoroughly unimpressed
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I dont know what goes into a British security guard contract but I hope somewhere in there is the ability to remove someone from the store
jjw9
There’s something in his hand here, but can’t say for sure what it is …
Primexes
about 30-29 second transition, you can see it's his phone - as he moves it in his hand it seems triangular, but it's just his phone.
Zenshien
Aardvarksneedlove
Well I put it in Davinci Resolve and changed the guy to be white and the security guard to black and now it tells a different story...
BDD85
It's a phone. It droppes from his hand as he is being dragged out, and you can see where the dude picks it up before handing it to him.
KismetCrew
Next frames show it to be black and rectangular, like the phone handed to him after being dragged outside:
Deadlynitro
He's still holding on to the item when dragged outside, his phones dropped but his fist remains clenched as he stands up.
PowerToAllThePeople
No hes not. It's in his right hand, drops it when he is flat out. Dragged under his foot and you see it picked up and given back on 2nd cam
Deadlynitro
Ok
PowerToAllThePeople
You also see him put both hands flat on the floor trying to get up at the end
popsd19233000
I see the blade right before the punch
BDD85
The phone you mean.
MrNardtastic
Think the phone is in his left hand. Knife in his right
BDD85
Nah. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-knocked-out-single-punch-25303382
popsd19233000
Yep- see it now, the thin phone between his fingers…
BDD85
yeah https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-knocked-out-single-punch-25303382