Apr 3, 2018 8:59 PM
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Cryolith
Even a healthy person can get cancer or have an accident. The point is that the system is there for when it’s needed.
Nottherealslimshadyjusthisbodydouble
That's what the taxes on alcohol and tobacco are for. Only affects the people who buy those things. Not the rest
sassybeckalicious
Smoker maybe? But Obese may be an issue fixed with insurance - we just don't have proper care channels
drnathaniel
Sure. Proportional to total health costs. Since the die sooner, they should pay LESS.
Germhole
I agree with the Obese paying more into medicare, smokers just get discriminated and denied employment
Disagree all you like, but our local hospitals employ the obese, but deny employment to anyone who has nicotine in their system. Cheers!!
ThePartyLeader
I don't think you understand how insurance works.
minkuschild
Smokers do pay higher taxes... on smokes..... like 1 dollar increase every 2 years... so.... huh?
thickfeelings
assinine
HeHeHebieJeebies
yeah - screw that single mother of 2 who just worked double shifts and never received basic home ec courses due to school funding cuts.
accordingtotheDM
nothing wrong with any of that, just don't smoke.
FreedomWaffles
fatties need love too. they just gotta pay.
NoPostsOnlyComments
Epinephilim
I pay taxes for a healthcare system that gets other people to work and stops plagues, not just to wipe my nose when I need it.
DraconianMarshmallowPoink
Smokers and obese people are less likely to live long enough to need Medicare, though.
MTVMovieAwardBestKisswinnerTobeyMaguire
This is a simple answer for a very complicated situation.
jeandolly
But they don't get old. Old people are the most expensive, healthwise.
PuckersMcColon
And drinkers, drug users, athletes, adrenalin junkies, people who chose to live in poluted places or drive unsafe vehicles.
sharkwhistle29
Yeah them too
HellooooNurse81
& people born into places that are heavily polluted or who had parents that forced them into sports/drug use? Childhood env affects longterm
Yeah, just not enough room to list all people that should. You get the idea though.
TheBigCheese93
They do. Health insurance plans through employers have tax incentives for non-smokers and those within normal BMI ranges.
imaginedear
How about an added tax on sugar, fast, processed food.
CamelbackJack
They do, in the health plan I have.
braccus69
You make 30,000$$ a year.. should they go on Atkins or join a gym ... I know plenty of people working 16plus hours that make nothing
Olands
I agree, however with the smoking prices "The average Canadian province receives 2% of it\s tax revenues from tobacco sales
The average Canadian smoker pays $1,294 a year in tobacco taxes. Which is arguably fair considering the amount of free health care that is
being used my sick smokers. Maybe they should tax soda like they do smokes
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
I dont see how one of those are related to the other
sebastianbernardvolvo
You clearly have no idea how money flows in govt. Want to save on tax spending? Stop voting for the ultra rich to get tax breaks. Idiot.
plakiaty
Health insurance companies already do this
TruthIsOffensive
$10 a month. Wow. I think op is talking about a federal and state level. Not turning in receipts from a handful of accepted gyms.
asmasm
I think you replied to the wrong comment bud
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
What about fat rich people who smoke?
AvJeo
Those are the best
They don't call them whales for nothing
RoTTonSKiPPy
What makes you think rich people pay more taxes?
They make more so the percentage is larger
bonfirefun
Last time I looked up the numbers, the amount of wealth they had and the amount of taxes they paid were about the same %. So debatable.
Not saying you're wrong. Just that this easily has a couple different interpretations.
You got a lot of learnin' to do, son.
Hypoxicith
43rdpresident
I'm fucking taking that.
TBarracuda33
Fat people and smokers should have to pay more for everything.
They do. Fast food and cigarettes are expensive.
TigerSauce
Fast food is not expensive. One of the key reasons obesity is rampant among the poor.
Cryolith
Even a healthy person can get cancer or have an accident. The point is that the system is there for when it’s needed.
Nottherealslimshadyjusthisbodydouble
That's what the taxes on alcohol and tobacco are for. Only affects the people who buy those things. Not the rest
sassybeckalicious
Smoker maybe? But Obese may be an issue fixed with insurance - we just don't have proper care channels
drnathaniel
Sure. Proportional to total health costs. Since the die sooner, they should pay LESS.
Germhole
I agree with the Obese paying more into medicare, smokers just get discriminated and denied employment
Germhole
Disagree all you like, but our local hospitals employ the obese, but deny employment to anyone who has nicotine in their system. Cheers!!
ThePartyLeader
I don't think you understand how insurance works.
minkuschild
Smokers do pay higher taxes... on smokes..... like 1 dollar increase every 2 years... so.... huh?
thickfeelings
assinine
HeHeHebieJeebies
yeah - screw that single mother of 2 who just worked double shifts and never received basic home ec courses due to school funding cuts.
accordingtotheDM
nothing wrong with any of that, just don't smoke.
FreedomWaffles
fatties need love too. they just gotta pay.
NoPostsOnlyComments
Epinephilim
accordingtotheDM
I pay taxes for a healthcare system that gets other people to work and stops plagues, not just to wipe my nose when I need it.
DraconianMarshmallowPoink
Smokers and obese people are less likely to live long enough to need Medicare, though.
MTVMovieAwardBestKisswinnerTobeyMaguire
This is a simple answer for a very complicated situation.
jeandolly
But they don't get old. Old people are the most expensive, healthwise.
PuckersMcColon
And drinkers, drug users, athletes, adrenalin junkies, people who chose to live in poluted places or drive unsafe vehicles.
sharkwhistle29
Yeah them too
HellooooNurse81
& people born into places that are heavily polluted or who had parents that forced them into sports/drug use? Childhood env affects longterm
PuckersMcColon
Yeah, just not enough room to list all people that should. You get the idea though.
TheBigCheese93
They do. Health insurance plans through employers have tax incentives for non-smokers and those within normal BMI ranges.
imaginedear
How about an added tax on sugar, fast, processed food.
CamelbackJack
They do, in the health plan I have.
braccus69
You make 30,000$$ a year.. should they go on Atkins or join a gym ... I know plenty of people working 16plus hours that make nothing
Olands
I agree, however with the smoking prices "The average Canadian province receives 2% of it\s tax revenues from tobacco sales
Olands
The average Canadian smoker pays $1,294 a year in tobacco taxes. Which is arguably fair considering the amount of free health care that is
Olands
being used my sick smokers. Maybe they should tax soda like they do smokes
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
I dont see how one of those are related to the other
sebastianbernardvolvo
You clearly have no idea how money flows in govt. Want to save on tax spending? Stop voting for the ultra rich to get tax breaks. Idiot.
plakiaty
Health insurance companies already do this
TruthIsOffensive
$10 a month. Wow. I think op is talking about a federal and state level. Not turning in receipts from a handful of accepted gyms.
asmasm
I think you replied to the wrong comment bud
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
What about fat rich people who smoke?
AvJeo
Those are the best
plakiaty
They don't call them whales for nothing
RoTTonSKiPPy
What makes you think rich people pay more taxes?
plakiaty
They make more so the percentage is larger
bonfirefun
Last time I looked up the numbers, the amount of wealth they had and the amount of taxes they paid were about the same %. So debatable.
bonfirefun
Not saying you're wrong. Just that this easily has a couple different interpretations.
RoTTonSKiPPy
You got a lot of learnin' to do, son.
Hypoxicith
43rdpresident
I'm fucking taking that.
Hypoxicith
TBarracuda33
Fat people and smokers should have to pay more for everything.
RoTTonSKiPPy
They do. Fast food and cigarettes are expensive.
TigerSauce
Fast food is not expensive. One of the key reasons obesity is rampant among the poor.