I'm from the socialist hell-hole called Australia (voting is compulsory - we are fined if we do not vote ----so undemocratic!!) and I've never had to wait more than 15 minutes to vote. we had a state election 2 weeks ago and i just walked in and voted - in and out in 30 seconds (title of my sex-tape).
Partisan meddling in the electoral process including voter suppression with tactics like this to deter people, starving public institutions, and only paying superficial lip service to the rights of the people unless it's the second amendment because it's a money printer for arms manufacturers that lobby the government. Everything I've seen and heard about US elections makes me grateful for Elections Canada being designed to be arms length and empowered to operate effectively.
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Winner of the 2024 presidential election in North Carolina, with Bernie Sanders, greeble style, volumetric fog"
Why is it so inefficient? I'm in the UK, and have never had to wait more than a few minutes to vote, ever - but waiting hours seems to be 'normal' for the US, which I find very odd.
That is Fucked up. I live in a Swedish city/suburb and there are like 5 polling places within walking distance, open 12 hr on Election Day (always on a weekend) and never a queue. Once there were a few people ahead of me but not enough to form an actual queue. Also everyone is automatically registered and our voter turnout is around 85%. Not voting is frowned upon. It’s seen as your democratic duty.
Most of the areas with very long lines are in states that are controlled by Republicans and those lines are in larger cities where people tend to vote Democratic.
It is not that bad, I went 2 weeks ago and it's in and out. As I see it, generally the dumbest people go today and then bitch about it being busy and give up. meanwhile you can go on a lunch break, or in the morning for only a few minutes during almost the entire last month
As others have said, it varies from place to place and literally by ballot. Some places will have a lot of stuff to vote for; others not so much. It's important to point out that North Carolina just suffered Hurricane Helene and that did a number on the state. This just might be the result of combining a few districts out of necessity.
The hurricane has NOTHING to do with this. A polling place can be as simple as a parking lot with tables. There may be other reasons but it's not the hurricane from weeks ago.
(Ultimately, the thing to remember is we don’t have a unified government like the UK, you’re dealing with 50 state level entities plus DC all with different election laws, who’ve then in many cases broken decision making and allocation of specific resources to dozens of counties, who are then responsible for dozens or hundreds of precincts, so there’s a lot more opportunity for variability of results)
Brilliant. And it should be noted, Australia is an example of how a federally structured country can get around this confusion by having a central election authority responsible for running elections.
it’s highly variable even on the precinct level (the local voting location is commonly termed a precinct). Not uncommon to see adjacent precincts that have wildly different wait times, ranging from none to hours. Sometimes it is poor local organization and sometimes it is poor county/resource organization. Often it’s caused by a shortage of equipment, either electronic voting machines or ballot scanners, as applicable.
Anecdotally, I’ve lived in states and precincts that varied from zero average wait time to about an hour, personally. The longest single wait I had was several hours in 2016, when the elections board yanked a few of our precinct’s ballot scanners last minute for relocation to other busier precincts and then one of our two remaining machines broke, causing a massive lunchtime backup.
It’s also worth noting that more populous areas often have fewer precincts and machines per capita, especially in states that don’t mandate scaling resources by population.
SupposablyPersnickity
If you’re in line when polls close, you still get to vote. Go, get in line!
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Wow I wonder why it's so difficult.
potatoardvarkhybrid
I'm from the socialist hell-hole called Australia (voting is compulsory - we are fined if we do not vote ----so undemocratic!!) and I've never had to wait more than 15 minutes to vote. we had a state election 2 weeks ago and i just walked in and voted - in and out in 30 seconds (title of my sex-tape).
todaytomorrowwillbeyesterday
If you feel marginalized at all, ask for a "provisional ballot" they must give you one.
SpartaWolf117
stay in line even if they close. they have to let you vote
bourbonandbaddecisions
STAY IN LINE!
hellospacemonkey
Stay in line. Keep voting.
idrinkcheapbeer
I think Georgia is lost and that's a bad loss.
idrinkcheapbeer
yep.
konmari
Is this a triumph of turnout or a failure of accessibility?
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
If you are in line, you get to vote, regardless if its after closing time or not
IlluminaBlade
What happens to the end of the line when polls close, do they send out officials to stop anyone from joining the queue?
moodytravesty
yes, as a marker
Matt010288
Stay in line at ALL costs! Make your voice heard!
khalwat
Trump won NC :(
CaptainPawfulFox
why is this even a thing in the first place?
ToasterDent
Because the wealthy want to make it hard for certain people to vote.
simbion
I’m glad I live in a state where this is not an issue.
Pikkupanda
Happy Appies doing us proud!!!
swedeonamoose
just saw on swedish news that Trump has urged his voters to do just that, stay in line no matter what until you have voted.
Jarodamus
Swedish news?
INeverCheckTheUserNames
Sweden is a country in northern Europe
DocFunkenstein
I find that hard to believe. He clearly told his supporters to go out and vote on November 5th.
IrrationalNumber
Probably the least anti-democracy thing he's ever said.
BMANN
Broken clock, etc
howimetyourauntrobin2
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sickofmakingnames
Fuck dude, where do we start?
paulbloface
Partisan meddling in the electoral process including voter suppression with tactics like this to deter people, starving public institutions, and only paying superficial lip service to the rights of the people unless it's the second amendment because it's a money printer for arms manufacturers that lobby the government. Everything I've seen and heard about US elections makes me grateful for Elections Canada being designed to be arms length and empowered to operate effectively.
PhooBar
Currently afflicted by Trump's disease. If it's not cured by tomorrow, the patient might not recover.
RummageSaleBubbler
Let's see the AI prediction...
@BotDrawA Winner of the 2024 presidential election in North Carolina
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your drawing of a "Winner of the 2024 presidential election in North Carolina"
HonestCommentFarmer
#1 Fredrick Douglass, is that you?
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Winner of the 2024 presidential election in North Carolina, with Bernie Sanders, greeble style, volumetric fog"
RummageSaleBubbler
Well...damn. Burnie.
Hashbrown123
Bernie out of nowhere with the steel chair!
ApothecaryGrant
Bah gawd that man has a family!
FudgeWeasel
Why is it so inefficient? I'm in the UK, and have never had to wait more than a few minutes to vote, ever - but waiting hours seems to be 'normal' for the US, which I find very odd.
QuartzPoker
Generally, lower vote turnout favors conservatives, so conservative politicians here try to strangle the vote effort
dohcohv
Voter suppression in cities. Fewer polling places per person. I live in a rural area and there is almost no line.
andsy
That is Fucked up. I live in a Swedish city/suburb and there are like 5 polling places within walking distance, open 12 hr on Election Day (always on a weekend) and never a queue. Once there were a few people ahead of me but not enough to form an actual queue. Also everyone is automatically registered and our voter turnout is around 85%. Not voting is frowned upon. It’s seen as your democratic duty.
amiurume
Most of the areas with very long lines are in states that are controlled by Republicans and those lines are in larger cities where people tend to vote Democratic.
ratchedRDH
Rural Maryland, no line, voted early last week.
jordmen
It is not that bad, I went 2 weeks ago and it's in and out. As I see it, generally the dumbest people go today and then bitch about it being busy and give up. meanwhile you can go on a lunch break, or in the morning for only a few minutes during almost the entire last month
dynamojoe
As others have said, it varies from place to place and literally by ballot. Some places will have a lot of stuff to vote for; others not so much. It's important to point out that North Carolina just suffered Hurricane Helene and that did a number on the state. This just might be the result of combining a few districts out of necessity.
Tanknolunaluna
Also have in mind Boone just got wrecked by the hurricane, so likely one of the only places they can hold this
jordmen
no, voting is always like this on voting day, that is why millions, including me, went early. These procrastinators dug their own hole
todayok
The hurricane has NOTHING to do with this. A polling place can be as simple as a parking lot with tables. There may be other reasons but it's not the hurricane from weeks ago.
tomatoboy
(Ultimately, the thing to remember is we don’t have a unified government like the UK, you’re dealing with 50 state level entities plus DC all with different election laws, who’ve then in many cases broken decision making and allocation of specific resources to dozens of counties, who are then responsible for dozens or hundreds of precincts, so there’s a lot more opportunity for variability of results)
tomatoboy
(And let’s face it, if you give some regions an opportunity for varying results, they’ll run with it)
DMWildemount
An article on those issues (from an Aus perspective): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-06/election-voting-system-in-us-america-vs-australia-canberra/104562228
tomatoboy
Brilliant. And it should be noted, Australia is an example of how a federally structured country can get around this confusion by having a central election authority responsible for running elections.
tomatoboy
it’s highly variable even on the precinct level (the local voting location is commonly termed a precinct). Not uncommon to see adjacent precincts that have wildly different wait times, ranging from none to hours. Sometimes it is poor local organization and sometimes it is poor county/resource organization. Often it’s caused by a shortage of equipment, either electronic voting machines or ballot scanners, as applicable.
tomatoboy
Anecdotally, I’ve lived in states and precincts that varied from zero average wait time to about an hour, personally. The longest single wait I had was several hours in 2016, when the elections board yanked a few of our precinct’s ballot scanners last minute for relocation to other busier precincts and then one of our two remaining machines broke, causing a massive lunchtime backup.
tomatoboy
It’s also worth noting that more populous areas often have fewer precincts and machines per capita, especially in states that don’t mandate scaling resources by population.