I'm sure conservative voters would say, "Of course they will just purge the BAD people!" Because they think telling the difference is easy and that Trump has good intention because he tells them what they want to hear.
Districting and electoral college is the problem. It should be a tally of all votes and whoever has the most wins. I don’t care that that gives major cities with more citizens the power. Good. It should be on popular vote not anything else.
Why does Poland has better system for voting than "land of the free"? I dont know a single person who at one time or another didnt do a stint as voting station staff. We are required to attend training sessions to do our jobs and children in schools years away from voting rights need to understand how those work. This kind of shit would put you in prison if you tried to pass it here.
We're compromised, and have been for a long time. Simple as that.
Totally unrelated question, do you know if Poland has anything similar to other countries like Canada where they offer easier citizenship for people of descent?
Yes, there are, you need documentation of course, might not be enough to gain automatic citizenship, although I heard of such cases, but just getting permission to stay indefinitely is significantly easier. Best to contact an embassy though, they should be up to date with current procedures etc.
Best advice I've ever gotten, register as a Republican and vote Democrat. If they're gonna remove Democratic voters if this goes through, then we use their system against them 😈
I hope I misunderstand something here. What's the purpose of the voting booths if they know what you voted for anyway? If it has something to do with the weird practice of registering to vote as why wouldn't democrats just register as republicans and vote for the democratic party?
Primary elections, the one where you decide who is on the ballot, are only open for you to vote for the party you're registered with (this varies by state, but a lot are this way). Registered independents can't vote in primaries, either (also varied by state, but again...). You can only vote across party lines in the general election. Pretty messed up when you think about it.
It is the latter. (For now) nobody knows who you voted for in the USA. If I understood correctly, when Dems register as Nazis, they can't vote in the election the Dems hold to find their candidate for the actual election.
I live in a very blue city in a very red state. When I moved here I registered red because we have split voting prior to the real election where you can only vote for your party. I registered red so I could vote against McConnell. That seems to be protecting me now.
What if everyone registered republican? They would have more difficulty purging, would they not?
Okay, who forgot to tell the US that a democracy without SECRET votes is not a democracy. Why does anyone know how somebody voted ?
I did not know this little detail about american elections but it changes everything. You never were a democracy to begin with. You just play-pretended democracy waiting for an autocrat to take over. Come on. Just burn this parody of a state down already. Nothing works as it should, everything is organized like 19th century and then always the worst example of that
See, the thing is, we’re a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. That means, our government has a fuck ton more checks and balances against corruption, and is intended to keep adding more. This lady doesn’t realize (or is omitting) that the SAVE act has been made accounting for most of the issues she brought up.
We didn't have them until the late 19th century and it was called the Australian ballot because they were the first ones. Before then individual parties printed their own ballots and you could tell from across the room how someone voted.
Typically, they didn't. While their are records THAT you voted, they couldn't tell in which way you voted. As you can imagine, the current administration isn't so fond of that. That being said, people are registered to specific parties, which generally tells you in which way they will vote. So while it's not a guarantee that a registered Republican will vote for the Republican candidate, and there's no way to prove if they did, you can confirms IF they voted, and you can make an educated guess.
Okay, that is some relief at least. Still, voter registration as a whole, is just so 19th century. It works completely differently here. Everytime you move you register your residence with the local town hall. Thats it. You are part of the local voting rolls now. No option to be kicked by anyone.
Of course we also have this feature of a government issued ID (with adress), not a passport mind you, which is another thing people started doing after 19th century administration advancements.
Party affiliation is part of voter records in most states. It's used to determine eligibility for primary elections. So while maintaining secret ballots, the vast majority of people registered to be affiliated with a party will vote for all candidates of that party. So if they purge 10% of democrat-registered voters, they will reduce the democrat vote by maybe 9%.
This governmental system is also resistant against things like taking children from parents to euthanize them at signs of specific forms of neurodiversity (being nicer than most of the political language, using language reminiscent of “retardation”). Which happens across Scandinavia and Central Europe.
My birth certificate has an error and is going to cost $$$-Thousands to fix. So guess who can't vote. The ancestors on my mother's side fought in the Revolutionary War and my father's side can be traced back to before the Civil War. Making the point that voter suppression can happen to anybody if it can happen to me.
QuantumInc
I'm sure conservative voters would say, "Of course they will just purge the BAD people!" Because they think telling the difference is easy and that Trump has good intention because he tells them what they want to hear.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
SoS of Montana, Christi Jacobson has already handed over our rolls to the feds.She is now running for Daines seat.
therealsarahconnor
Districting and electoral college is the problem. It should be a tally of all votes and whoever has the most wins. I don’t care that that gives major cities with more citizens the power. Good. It should be on popular vote not anything else.
FlintNorth44
If your husband thinks this is a good thing...DIVORCE HIM IMMEDIATELY.
KoalaOnTheJuice
This is why the regime all seem so relaxed about being at 33% in the polls.
Bonevi
The SAVE PEDOS act is disgusting. All they want to do is protect pedophiles like trump from consequences of raping children.
mmak0one350
Te Real ID the government made me get? That Real ID?
Ulthirm
I'm really not looking forward to fighting the state so my birth cert matches my name.
urusername2
You are correct!
BlackHoleSon01
Everyone who voted for the Failed Trump Administration should lose the right to vote.
TheRealArclight
beerkrump
It's also unconstitutional.
nnjd4zqrrq31415
Republicans need to grow a fucking spine!
zHurk777
Um, this is what republicans want. Fewer voters is a good thing. - multiple republican party officials before the 2024 election.
Lisekmaly
Why does Poland has better system for voting than "land of the free"? I dont know a single person who at one time or another didnt do a stint as voting station staff. We are required to attend training sessions to do our jobs and children in schools years away from voting rights need to understand how those work. This kind of shit would put you in prison if you tried to pass it here.
jamiedBreaker
We're compromised, and have been for a long time. Simple as that.
Totally unrelated question, do you know if Poland has anything similar to other countries like Canada where they offer easier citizenship for people of descent?
Lisekmaly
Yes, there are, you need documentation of course, might not be enough to gain automatic citizenship, although I heard of such cases, but just getting permission to stay indefinitely is significantly easier. Best to contact an embassy though, they should be up to date with current procedures etc.
LokilairTTV
Voting is the high road of civility and compromise. If they take voting away then the alternative is blood.
Zetor
"bOTh sIDeS"
JohnSmithterms
Time to fucking riot
TheBlackSonOfTheHonestMan
.. oh... that sounds VERY American to me.... I think we have a different perspective of who Americans are.
KookiesandKrime
Best advice I've ever gotten, register as a Republican and vote Democrat. If they're gonna remove Democratic voters if this goes through, then we use their system against them 😈
DaisyfromDownunder
The other part nobody is talking about enough is the Pedo-Files that will convict Trump to jail for 20 years.
Quixus
I hope I misunderstand something here. What's the purpose of the voting booths if they know what you voted for anyway?
If it has something to do with the weird practice of registering to vote as why wouldn't democrats just register as republicans and vote for the democratic party?
jamiedBreaker
Primary elections, the one where you decide who is on the ballot, are only open for you to vote for the party you're registered with (this varies by state, but a lot are this way). Registered independents can't vote in primaries, either (also varied by state, but again...). You can only vote across party lines in the general election. Pretty messed up when you think about it.
Mithi
It is the latter. (For now) nobody knows who you voted for in the USA. If I understood correctly, when Dems register as Nazis, they can't vote in the election the Dems hold to find their candidate for the actual election.
quade
Fuck the repubs, goddamn fascists. But beyond party, fuck the SAVE act because it is not "SAVE-ing" anything good.
SinisterDuff
He named it after what bondi couldn't do SAVE him
DrBourbonTheOriginal
I live in a very blue city in a very red state. When I moved here I registered red because we have split voting prior to the real election where you can only vote for your party. I registered red so I could vote against McConnell. That seems to be protecting me now.
What if everyone registered republican? They would have more difficulty purging, would they not?
Tolocamp
Okay, who forgot to tell the US that a democracy without SECRET votes is not a democracy. Why does anyone know how somebody voted ?
I did not know this little detail about american elections but it changes everything. You never were a democracy to begin with. You just play-pretended democracy waiting for an autocrat to take over. Come on. Just burn this parody of a state down already. Nothing works as it should, everything is organized like 19th century and then always the worst example of that
CamNah
See, the thing is, we’re a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. That means, our government has a fuck ton more checks and balances against corruption, and is intended to keep adding more. This lady doesn’t realize (or is omitting) that the SAVE act has been made accounting for most of the issues she brought up.
SteveD31415
We didn't have them until the late 19th century and it was called the Australian ballot because they were the first ones. Before then individual parties printed their own ballots and you could tell from across the room how someone voted.
Tolocamp
Ok. Thanks. Still terrible, but thanks for shedding light on this whole affair.
Mstrswrd
Typically, they didn't. While their are records THAT you voted, they couldn't tell in which way you voted. As you can imagine, the current administration isn't so fond of that.
That being said, people are registered to specific parties, which generally tells you in which way they will vote. So while it's not a guarantee that a registered Republican will vote for the Republican candidate, and there's no way to prove if they did, you can confirms IF they voted, and you can make an educated guess.
Tolocamp
Okay, that is some relief at least. Still, voter registration as a whole, is just so 19th century. It works completely differently here. Everytime you move you register your residence with the local town hall. Thats it. You are part of the local voting rolls now. No option to be kicked by anyone.
Of course we also have this feature of a government issued ID (with adress), not a passport mind you, which is another thing people started doing after 19th century administration advancements.
kc2syk
Europe has registered domicile addresses for their people. There's no such thing in the US.
Tolocamp
Thanks, was the thing i explained from Line 2 going forward.
kc2syk
Party affiliation is part of voter records in most states. It's used to determine eligibility for primary elections. So while maintaining secret ballots, the vast majority of people registered to be affiliated with a party will vote for all candidates of that party. So if they purge 10% of democrat-registered voters, they will reduce the democrat vote by maybe 9%.
CamNah
This governmental system is also resistant against things like taking children from parents to euthanize them at signs of specific forms of neurodiversity (being nicer than most of the political language, using language reminiscent of “retardation”). Which happens across Scandinavia and Central Europe.
fattymcfattzz
Then what the FUCK was the point of the real id?
fattymcfattzz
Also isn’t this bill pretty much dead?
zHurk777
Don't count on it.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Duh? Trump has been taking about an election takeover for a while now. Bullets in heads, people, it's the only way to deal with these Nazi fucks.
ShearingBlizzard
Lets carpool, do you have enough guns for the class?
FermentTheRich3000
Yes, I do. Only a few thousand rounds for each, though.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Maybe if I lived in a fascist shithole I would, but here in the first world, I don't have much use for a gun, let alone spares.
CatEyebrows
I got purged three times in 2020
kc2syk
What state?
zHurk777
My birth certificate has an error and is going to cost $$$-Thousands to fix. So guess who can't vote. The ancestors on my mother's side fought in the Revolutionary War and my father's side can be traced back to before the Civil War. Making the point that voter suppression can happen to anybody if it can happen to me.
CatEyebrows
I hate this timeline so much