Unfortunately Flock contracts with cities include that any destroyed or damaged camera must be replaced and payed for by the city with tax money. Every destroyed camera brings more money to Flock.
Sawzall'll work dont get me wrong but a lot of unnecessary hammering on your joints. Hand held bandsaw will cut it in half the time and you won't have carpal tunnel after the 20th cut.
Reminds me of the local "subversive superhero" Angle Grinder Man. He used to free cars from being illegally booted in the UK circa early 2000s. Dunno if he's still active. He showed people that anyone has the potential to be a super hero!
The poles where they're mounted at my mall have a joint about 4 feet off the ground secured with a few machine screws. Portable impact wrench with a socket would make quick work of it.
no you want semi gloss clear coat. nerfs the ability to compute any actual image but the camera still works if anyone were to log in and check. takes it a lot longer to figure out what's goin on and eat up up compute time and money on their side trying to process garbage images
Don’t need to hold the can at 90° to a surface to paint…. I can think of other reasons to not approach directly in the line of sight when possible too.
It's difficult enough holding a single higher powered laser still enough to do any damage from a modest range, using 4 to hit some minimal value according to back of the envelope math has a *slaps calculator like it owes me money* 0.000% chance of working, repeating of course.
this as it turns out is a fascinating physics question which is exactly the right kind of anarchy physicists get excited about so buckle up for science . Digital photoreceptors become damaged when exposed to 16,000 to 60,000 W/cm^2 worth of light depending on cheapness of sensor used... which sounds crazy high, especially when you consider that a standard class 3 laser pointer is restricted to 4.99 mW of output. 1
but this threshold is for individual pixels and there is a camera lens that can do some heavy lifting for us. Using the irradiance calculation we can determine the power of light when focused [I = P sub L / (pi x (.0001 cm) ^2) ] if I goes above 16k then damage. so we get .0499W/3.1415X10^-6 cm^2 or roughly 15,915W/cm^2 from a single laser pointer... BUT this is in a vaccume and less than a meter away. 2
Beer-Lambert's Law gives us the amount of light absorbed when traveling through a medium (ie air) otherwise known as attenuation. This formula [ Iz = Iprime x e^-y*z] for the standard air results in ~67% signal power loss over a km. the math was already close in ideal conditions but the addition of atmosphere ruins everything BUT since light acts as a wave we can increase power by cultivating sources together. 3
having 4 of the sources together effectively extends the range that power can be transmitted from to a target the only hurtle then becomes accurately aiming at a target at distance and the atmosphere acting as a lensed to diffuse the point of light before it hits the target. Even if you perfectly aim the beams the air will diffuse your point of light to ~60 mm circle which is roughly 50% the size of the lens that you are aiming at. But the light that does hit the lens approx 63,000 W/cm^2 4
Fun Fact, Flock cameras are used by cops to stalk women... there is no security on them and any cop, anywhere, can get onto the system and search for any license plate and track it in real time.
correct the cameras use WPA "encryption" for wireless connections and has unsecured Bluetooth communication. Root password is stored locally in hash. once rooted you have access to local video files. but you can do so many more interesting things once rooted. you could brick it. you could inject false video to be processed, your could remove video before its processed, you could encoude the camera to ignore lists of license plates.
sure but also if the local precinct is filled with Barney Fife's who use say User: barney.fife@police.gov and PW:Password then anyone also has access to client side website sure. but that's easy social manipulation and light datamining. The hardware is also super unsecure. also also the hardware was sold with the lie of no data stored locally which is a demonstratable lie
I used to work installing/maintaining Public Safety systems (mostly E911), and they have no security at all... and when vendors deploy any security, it basically breaks cuz the cops are generally too dumb to figure out how to do MFA.
It's funnier on the racist end, because they use famous actor memes all day long just like the rest of us, but don't realize that 99% of these actors and films are by people who think they're racist scum. Gibson just happens to be an exception. Too bad, really, entertaining fellow, but I'll just watch somebody else.
So there’s this metal called gallium that’s liquid at about 86°F that turns aluminum into metallic foam allowing it to be broken effortlessly and much more quietly than a sawzall. Not that I’m advocating property damage of any sort; just a nifty science fact!
Ga is around $2300 usd per kg and 1. You need a valid reason to buy it and 2. Purchase will be on record. Its not like you can get it at the hardware store. Windex the lens, its polycarbonate, and windex you can buy with cash at the dollar general where no ona gaf who you are
Windex contains a bit of ammonia. It is very slow to act and not v effecrive. Solvents like acetone or ethyl acetate will soften PC but do not dissolve it and cause severe surface damage (crazing and clouding.)
Definitely do not use these solvents to clean transparent polycarbonate! Acetone is readily purchased in hardware stores.
If you out these in a sprayer be sure to test it wifh a small amount first. Polyethylene or polypropylene bottles will work ok but the spray mechanism may not last.
Be sure you look for Windex that has ammonia in it, and maybe add additional pneumonia to it, because I just tried it in my lab and it does nothing to polycarbonate
When you use it, you can dispense it using the squeeze bottle or you could simply put some on a small paint brush such as a 75 cent solder flux brush and keep it in a Ziploc until you need it.
These disposable brushes work well for applying to bolts and other curved surfaces.
Problem is, you have to have direct contact to the aluminum. That means no paint, and even the oxidation layer that forms super fast on bare aluminum. Also, how are you gonna keep a liquid against a vertical pole?
Compounding charges can take it from one form to another very quickly. Sometimes the cleaner option is to leave no trail at all, including a criminal one. They would also love to toss a few other charges on the pile that might not have been the same person but easy to"solve" by lumping onto one person they did find. It's harder to beat a rap on a charge you didn't commit, when you are charged with a completely valid that you did
Compounding charges can take it from one form to another very quickly. Sometimes the cleaner option is to leave no trail at all, including a criminal one. They would also love to toss a few other charges on the pile that might not have been the same person but easy to"solve" by lumping onto one person they did find. It's harder to beat a rap on a charge you didn't commit, when you are charged with a completely valid that you did
yingjun
if you havent seen the extended cut of the Patriot check it out.
also if you think the film is more than 10% accurate, I'll dispel that now.
durandana
handheld pruning shears, extend the handles with 6ft PVC pipe
Subsound
Why not get bolt cutters?
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
Resistance1000
https://deflock.org/
Also see:
https">imgur">flock.org/
Also see:
https://imgur.com/gallery/do-not-do-this-3uMHbCZ
/gallery/livable-wages-UmphLEU
copingcabana
Sawsall?
"You didn't see anything."
yingjun
noice.
MachineInterface
Unfortunately Flock contracts with cities include that any destroyed or damaged camera must be replaced and payed for by the city with tax money. Every destroyed camera brings more money to Flock.
Mitheral
Well until that happens no camera at that location & destroy enough and cities will reconsider whether it is worth it.
3nd3rwiggin
Never seen one that was legally installed with a break away plate in case a car hits it.
420supercoolusername69
“Aim small, miss small”
fireflyseasontwo
Everyone should wear a Mel Gibson mask for the task
MrGhostbuster
There's only about a million different better options than a Mel Gibson mask.
OtisTDrunk
This Is The Mask!
DianNaoChong
Or not, he sucks
Bojovnik84
Better yet, just a Luigi mask from Mario, in honor of
DasBeaker
Knowing Mel would HATE this meme makes it that much better.
copingcabana
It's ironic that Flock cameras are being defeated by something called a "saw"sall.
ConstantMissclicks
Sawzall'll work dont get me wrong but a lot of unnecessary hammering on your joints. Hand held bandsaw will cut it in half the time and you won't have carpal tunnel after the 20th cut.
BrdCdn
Yep, handheld bandsaw or a grinder with a cutting disk is going to be much faster.
walt0132
Reminds me of the local "subversive superhero" Angle Grinder Man. He used to free cars from being illegally booted in the UK circa early 2000s. Dunno if he's still active. He showed people that anyone has the potential to be a super hero!
GreetingsSirAndOrMaamIAmUsingThisFieldToIntroduceMyselfAscrsklr
I have a new favorite super hero.
FinancialRavioli
The poles where they're mounted at my mall have a joint about 4 feet off the ground secured with a few machine screws. Portable impact wrench with a socket would make quick work of it.
SixSixxtySix
I'd suggest black and an 8 foot extension. These cameras are sometimes mounted on utility poles rather than the aluminium breakaway ones.
KilroyLichking
no you want semi gloss clear coat. nerfs the ability to compute any actual image but the camera still works if anyone were to log in and check. takes it a lot longer to figure out what's goin on and eat up up compute time and money on their side trying to process garbage images
SixSixxtySix
They'd still have the footage from the moment the spray nozzle gets in front of the lens. Interesting idea though.
frozenlake247
Don’t need to hold the can at 90° to a surface to paint…. I can think of other reasons to not approach directly in the line of sight when possible too.
KilroyLichking
i think the lenses are fish eye and have near 180* view but i could be wrong
pgtjms
A full face hood with Mitch McConnell's face printed on it would work.
OvertleyBadpickuplines
You just need 20 minutes of convo with the camera.
KilroyLichking
may i also recommended 4 green laser pointers aimed at the camera lens which will burn out the photoreceptor from a distance
rezurok
It's difficult enough holding a single higher powered laser still enough to do any damage from a modest range, using 4 to hit some minimal value according to back of the envelope math has a *slaps calculator like it owes me money* 0.000% chance of working, repeating of course.
FinancialRavioli
Why 4? One's not enough juice to fry the chip?
KilroyLichking
this as it turns out is a fascinating physics question which is exactly the right kind of anarchy physicists get excited about so buckle up for science . Digital photoreceptors become damaged when exposed to 16,000 to 60,000 W/cm^2 worth of light depending on cheapness of sensor used... which sounds crazy high, especially when you consider that a standard class 3 laser pointer is restricted to 4.99 mW of output. 1
KilroyLichking
but this threshold is for individual pixels and there is a camera lens that can do some heavy lifting for us. Using the irradiance calculation we can determine the power of light when focused [I = P sub L / (pi x (.0001 cm) ^2) ] if I goes above 16k then damage. so we get .0499W/3.1415X10^-6 cm^2 or roughly 15,915W/cm^2 from a single laser pointer... BUT this is in a vaccume and less than a meter away. 2
KilroyLichking
Beer-Lambert's Law gives us the amount of light absorbed when traveling through a medium (ie air) otherwise known as attenuation. This formula [ Iz = Iprime x e^-y*z] for the standard air results in ~67% signal power loss over a km. the math was already close in ideal conditions but the addition of atmosphere ruins everything BUT since light acts as a wave we can increase power by cultivating sources together. 3
KilroyLichking
having 4 of the sources together effectively extends the range that power can be transmitted from to a target the only hurtle then becomes accurately aiming at a target at distance and the atmosphere acting as a lensed to diffuse the point of light before it hits the target. Even if you perfectly aim the beams the air will diffuse your point of light to ~60 mm circle which is roughly 50% the size of the lens that you are aiming at. But the light that does hit the lens approx 63,000 W/cm^2 4
bippityboppitybuttsex
Fun Fact, Flock cameras are used by cops to stalk women... there is no security on them and any cop, anywhere, can get onto the system and search for any license plate and track it in real time.
TyrannusEquus
Even worse, basically anyone can just get in. Cyber security for flock is a joke.
Uberche
So the profession that has 40+% rates of spouse abuse, also can track their spouse at will with these? Wonderbar...
bippityboppitybuttsex
Yep... and is absolutely abusing that system
PorterPickUp
No, no, no. Not just their spouses but any random woman they find attractive too!
KilroyLichking
correct the cameras use WPA "encryption" for wireless connections and has unsecured Bluetooth communication. Root password is stored locally in hash. once rooted you have access to local video files. but you can do so many more interesting things once rooted. you could brick it. you could inject false video to be processed, your could remove video before its processed, you could encoude the camera to ignore lists of license plates.
MuffinProof
Upload the Bee Movie onto all of them
bippityboppitybuttsex
Oh, I meant the websites that cops use to stalk women.... there is no justification required to search the data.
It is just a matter of time before a cop rapes or murders a woman (if it hasn't already happened).
KilroyLichking
sure but also if the local precinct is filled with Barney Fife's who use say User: barney.fife@police.gov and PW:Password then anyone also has access to client side website sure. but that's easy social manipulation and light datamining. The hardware is also super unsecure. also also the hardware was sold with the lie of no data stored locally which is a demonstratable lie
bippityboppitybuttsex
I used to work installing/maintaining Public Safety systems (mostly E911), and they have no security at all... and when vendors deploy any security, it basically breaks cuz the cops are generally too dumb to figure out how to do MFA.
alcamar
Racist asshole. Though his particular flavor is seeing a resurgence due to some particular genocidal actions ongoing
Imalwaysready
I’d wager he’d prefer you honor him by actually standing up and taking action, not by wearing his face.
alcamar
Replied to the wrong comment i believe
jankyupeblik
It's funnier on the racist end, because they use famous actor memes all day long just like the rest of us, but don't realize that 99% of these actors and films are by people who think they're racist scum. Gibson just happens to be an exception. Too bad, really, entertaining fellow, but I'll just watch somebody else.
Mechwarrior719
So there’s this metal called gallium that’s liquid at about 86°F that turns aluminum into metallic foam allowing it to be broken effortlessly and much more quietly than a sawzall. Not that I’m advocating property damage of any sort; just a nifty science fact!
ChromePlatedEquator
Oh no, I hope no one brushes any Gallium on those helpless Flock cameras
emertonom
Are the poles aluminum? I assumed they were steel.
RobotDorsVenabili
In winter months, mercury could fill the same role & be easier to obtain - if only mercury was a strong bio toxin =\
RobotDorsVenabili
Wasn't. Stupid autocorrect. To be clear - don't use mercury. Effective, yes, but toxic, also yes
DianNaoChong
You could get a hunting sling shot for like eight bucks at Wall mart and just go have a nice nature walk in the woods far away from it all
Micro2112
Yes but, it needs direct contact to work. So a quick buff through that paint, then apply. Oh and wear gloves, it'll stain your fingers.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Remember you have to scratch up the surface of the aluminum before you apply the gallium so it can get past the oxide layer!
BanCannon
What's it do to a paintball shellf?
deetatron
Marsupialmessiah
Ga is around $2300 usd per kg and 1. You need a valid reason to buy it and 2. Purchase will be on record. Its not like you can get it at the hardware store. Windex the lens, its polycarbonate, and windex you can buy with cash at the dollar general where no ona gaf who you are
DaveSamsonite
Windex contains a bit of ammonia. It is very slow to act and not v effecrive. Solvents like acetone or ethyl acetate will soften PC but do not dissolve it and cause severe surface damage (crazing and clouding.)
Definitely do not use these solvents to clean transparent polycarbonate! Acetone is readily purchased in hardware stores.
If you out these in a sprayer be sure to test it wifh a small amount first. Polyethylene or polypropylene bottles will work ok but the spray mechanism may not last.
Marsupialmessiah
Windex works, and given the circumstances, by the time they realize is fucked.... cant trace it, thousands of fucked up license plates !
DaveSamsonite
Be sure you look for Windex that has ammonia in it, and maybe add additional pneumonia to it, because I just tried it in my lab and it does nothing to polycarbonate
DaveSamsonite
Blue loctite threadlocker gel absolutely must not be used on polycarbonate, because it contains acetone, and it will simply destroy PC.
See this reference:
https://youtube.com/shorts/qSwfjmYVhuA?si=9D0NsKEqq-oeoGG2
When you use it, you can dispense it using the squeeze bottle or you could simply put some on a small paint brush such as a 75 cent solder flux brush and keep it in a Ziploc until you need it.
These disposable brushes work well for applying to bolts and other curved surfaces.
AnonOmis1000
Problem is, you have to have direct contact to the aluminum. That means no paint, and even the oxidation layer that forms super fast on bare aluminum. Also, how are you gonna keep a liquid against a vertical pole?
jerusalemspider
One word. Thermite.
deetatron
kimwimgoddess
How would one make the gallium stick to a horizontal surface long enough to have that effect? Asking for a friend?
Micro2112
Need to sand through paint. Then put gloves on, dip a finger in, spread on expose pole. It's kinda slow acting so it'll fall hours later.
kimwimgoddess
I used to have a couple tablespoons of it in a test tube. Don't know what happened to it!
Micro2112
Exyr
Takes prolonged contact with the aluminum and you have to sand the aluminum to remove the oxide layer so the gallium can penetrate.
frozenlake247
Yeah big manual pipe cutter would be way faster and one of the better options for taking down random poles.
alcamar
Note, chemical/chemistry supply stores keep logs of unusual purchases for reporting to law enforcement.
bladderinfection
Stealing is an essential first step to every crime.
alcamar
Compounding charges can take it from one form to another very quickly. Sometimes the cleaner option is to leave no trail at all, including a criminal one.
They would also love to toss a few other charges on the pile that might not have been the same person but easy to"solve" by lumping onto one person they did find. It's harder to beat a rap on a charge you didn't commit, when you are charged with a completely valid that you did
KilroyLichking
note that this only works on bare aluminum not enamel coated
bahamutepyon
Key the paint, then apply.
JeezusJuice
No one tracks theft, though. If you’re gonna break the law anyway, may as well go all out.
alcamar
Compounding charges can take it from one form to another very quickly. Sometimes the cleaner option is to leave no trail at all, including a criminal one.
They would also love to toss a few other charges on the pile that might not have been the same person but easy to"solve" by lumping onto one person they did find. It's harder to beat a rap on a charge you didn't commit, when you are charged with a completely valid that you did
Mechwarrior719
That’s why smurf accounts, PO boxes, and visa gift cards exist.
Also, don’t buy a whole bunch to the same recipient.
OPSEC first, folks. They have the full weight of the federal government on their side.
yamsonyamsonyams
And dont post about it on social media lol
Mechwarrior719
The number of YouTube and Facebook videos of people committing crimes absolutely blows my mind.
yamsonyamsonyams
Or people on Imgur talking about them?
fformulaa
Smurf accounts? Dude, freakin called it! I knew those smurfs were up to no good! Too goodie goodie to not me, def doin something shadey
ricbri695
Take it easy gargamel…
vericon151
Well they are communist /s
fformulaa
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1aXhwZjNyaGRrYTVheHF6dW14Y2x2cG11OXV1bXcxc2tlNzh6a3J3ciZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3o6gb8GVuKU5kxav8k/200w.webp
CaptainYesterday
And dont take yoir cell phone with you when doing any of it.
GuyWithDog
Or any other electronic device that was once close to your home. Bluetooth and WiFi are incredible sources for footprinting your ass
chickenoodlesoup
can't newer cars track your location, too?
CaptainYesterday
Yes they can. I love my bike.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Yeah but newer cars are a shitty purchase anyway