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PaulHurley
I know a dude with a meteorology degree who is a climate change denier
Holtzmaneffect
Work with a Covid denier, at a pharmacy.
OddlyPacific
https://open.spotify.com/track/3XNoJnpZFL4jcZfZuhINww?si=JCBJsh9xTBu8GIxKl8hceQ&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1
djmenyo82
I live in a country full of "pro-life christians" that recently legalized the death penalty.
IAmZephyre
I work with Science "doubters." I'm a teacher.
Aranbro
mm
Ijustwanttobememe
I know a nurse that told me my autoimmune disease was caused by my childhood vaccines
sinbinrugger
I knew a flat earther who was in the Navy. He did 2 world cruises.
2Used2bUseful
I went to school with someone getting a geology degree that believed the earth was only 6000 yrs old.
intolerable
I work in a movie theater and one of my coworkers doesn’t like movies.
thepicklebucket
A degree is meaningless these days. Also expensive.
Pentjotal
I nearly break my nose with that face palm !
gromolko
I once had a geography teacher as a colleague who was a young earth creationist. (granted, it wasn't geology, but still...)
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Geography teacher said Earth turns clockwise, class says it's wrong, she rewinds the tape and WHILE DOING THAT says "see, I'm right!"
planetfinder
I mean that's just a point of view thing. Look up at the south pole and it is clockwise.
I'm in Germany, we still look down from the North Pole. ;)
CeruleanSky1988
Can't fix stupid
StepOnTheSun
Can't compete with it either. . .
icommentwithsteveharvey
JhericFury
I am of the belief that there's a cult out there for everyone, that will bypass their bullshit detector, you just pray you don't find it.
BearbaFett
great video on the nexus between flat earth & Q anon. easy leap to antivax. it is loooong but so worth it. https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44
OGymruOGymro
Glad they censored Will Smith's face there.
DeguRatface
I wish I could wrap my head around this. Is it a need to feel special? is it the sense of community? my mum turned flat earther while I>
was getting my degree and she has calmed down a bit now but she still keeps her 'mind open' as long as it's a bizarre conspiracy theory>
that she's learning about but not when it comes to fact. It comes across as this "DON'T SHOW ME WHAT'S REAL. I'LL DECIDE WHAT'S REAL!" <
Shuckeru
I had a very similar experience when I went to uni - perhaps they do it to compensate for the widening difference in education?
Perhaps. She countered me learning about the planet and evolution by stopping believing in the planet and evolution lol
Ya, super similar experience.
GraeYstaG237
Skumbo
have you tried calming sitting down with them, and hitting them?
DownUnderAussie
In a previous life I was a Maritime Navigator - I worked with a flat earther…..if you know anything about Nav you’ll know how fucked THAT is
[deleted]
He was also a creationist, ergo a totally fucked up moron….
ExTechOp
Great Circles! If he followed the "North pole is center" model, how did he explain no discrepancies turning up with navigation in that area?
dasoffendor
why is will smith's face blurred out? like did somebody not want to give away what the meme actually was?
fsfrms
How do you know it's will smith
Sprinx
Piotheman
I feel it says a lot about the mental state of humanity as a whole, like a good 33 to 50% of the earth population won't cope with reality.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Have you SEEN reality? No thanks!
GnomeDeGuerre
Says a lot about the cognitive dissonance that we carry around.
JesusToldMe
Even the best education can't compete with stupid.
Booklover4life
Education can’t fix willful ignorance.Anti vaxx and flat earthers are willfully ignorant, doesn’t mean they didn’t pay $ for college tuition
HieronymousFlex
There's a reason Intelligence and Wisdom are two separate stats in D&D.
AnythingMuchShorter
Different kinds of intellect. I have a cousin who thinks he must be smart because he programs PLCs. But he is an anti-vax, climate change/
denying, global shadow government believing, fanatical trump supporter. It just doesn't stop him from clicking the clicky wires on the ports
PenguRhys
Knowledge is not the same as wisdom. Stupidity is not the same as being unintelligent. One can be intelligent but still stupid af. ^.^
redsmerf
So what if she's pregnant?
m4dm4n
I thought the anti vaxxer was pragant.
how to become prgunet
cattingtons
Pergonat
Bergamot.
Gnavin
Took me a second - the abbreviation is "Planned Parenthood". No context on whether the pregnancy was intentional or unintentional, tho.
Kleverin
Or she is pregnant in 2 years and that's to long, usually it's just 9 months, give or take some weeks. She should know it's to long..
SethBalmore
It's all a part of her plan.
RayMC
Thats bothering me too. I hope @OP realizes that some people WANT several kids and are able to provide for them. There’s no stupidity there.
HotStrongid
Hey, uh, maybe you hadn’t heard, but, uh, this planet’s on fire. You, uh, might want to think about a more family-friendly neighborhood…
MiguelCamino
Guess what happens if only the people who don't believe are the only ones raising the next generation.
Sparksol
That's one way to tell when someone's in the job purely for the money.
DCNR
I'd say it's more like the way to tell if someone lied on their resume.
Barkinsons
I see a lot of students that study biology as a broad topic but end up in labs because that's the only available job
SerialChickenLover
And that having an education doesn’t necessarily mean you’re smart. But still, don’t drop out of high school and make that your anthem.
CyanideBreathMint
Or got the job because of WHO they know, not what they know.
MajorSession
I'm a microbiologist. I make minimum wage. There is hardly any money in science.
JudgementalMan
Especially biology...
MostlyHarmlessT
Really? I think here in Belgium it is actually quit okay. I’m a biologist myself and I don’t think I can complain. But I can imagine it (1)
Depends on where and which country. I heard PhD students in Spain barely make enough to pay rent, let alone be able to live (2)
PleasantPeasantPheasant
I'm almost done with my study applied biology, most of the jobs in the field are for volunteers :/
EmergencyChocolate
Do the volunteers get paid in exposure?
Maitrify
Aren't most? I know I wouldn't do my job if I didn't get paid
justthoughtyousholdknow
I know I am. My morals quickly go if more money is on the table.
ArcanistMMXIV
I'd do my job for free for 2 days a week, if I didn't have to work 5 to live
doctorpaulproteus
There's a difference to being in a job solely for the money and doing it for free lol
Sjama
Think about that: Any job you do is exactly 40hrs a week and you get the same salary at the beginning (before potential promotion). In this
case which job would you prefer to do. For some, there is not much difference, others would take a paycut for a job that they like more
NKato
I wouldn't take a pay cut. Mostly because the RENT IS TOO FUCKING DAMN HIGH. Bitch, pay me more before even suggesting I'd get a pay cut.
JodyBird
Welcome to the machine
Sibep
I personally care little about money as long as I can live comfortably. Doing something I enjoy is much more important for me.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
Its by design that most jobs only pay enough to pay for rent,food,car,...they dont want you to have a choice to a certain degree
Someshithead241
Some don't even do that
Jsdmv
More than 25% of nurses refuse to get vaccinated. Go figure. (Sauce in next comment)
Shineupordown
i heard more like 50 % . and heard nurses telling patient/friends that vaccine causes sterility so they shouldn't vaccinate their kids hmm..
cuttlesquirt
This is why the people around me have vaccine skepticism- health workers who refuse the vaccine.
ArdentSlacker
Well, they didn't get into nursing to help people. Those are the ones who like having power over sick people.
Baheimoth
My sister in law is one of those
rossimus
Nurses who won't get vaccinated should be fired on the spot.
Schoonbot
My aunt is a nurse and told me to not get it. I was like but you work in health care...
sassiswhatIaimfor
I don't get why this one's their hill to die on; they've been declining flu for years, but now they refuse to even do the decline form
pseudopseudonym
I feel like this is going to put a big dent in the ol' 'arrogant doctors, practical nurses' meme.
nonetoowitty
The study is actually about hospital workers, not nurses specifically. Plenty of physicians are refusing it too, unfortunately.
Turns out all that med school is worth something after all.
SirSmurfalot
They are just demonstrating which of them should not be employed in that profession and should be promptly fired.
They hate doctors so much.
0Banacek0
I think that is mostly opposition to mandatory flu shots.
joebwab
Is it nurses or hospital staff? Reading the article it seems to suggest that the stats can be misleading for a number of reasons. Good read.
sgtjim
My sister in law is a hospital nurse and refuses to get vaccinated. She's also in Florida. So not sure how far off the numbers might be
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
My friend nurse got offered the Astra Zeneca vaccine while the better Pfizer vaccines were reserved for the doctors at her hospital.
paintingagency
That's bad, but also stupid bc they ALL work.
They're both FINE.
lospaturno
that's to avoid covid-related jobs
YoloSwagginsAndTheKnightsOfTheRoundTable
Yep I work with a lot of nurses AND MDs that refuse to get the vaccine. Every single nurse that I work with that didn't get the vac got covi
somnif
I used to have a lot of nursing students when I taught at uni. I'd average 1-2 vocally anti-vax a semester. I taught microbio and genetics.
Awaras
And you passed them? Doesn't that make it kinda on you?
I asked my supervisor, I had to grade the assignments I gave, not anything else. Though several did fail spectacularly even at those.
Yup, they are usually pretty good at parroting the official line to pass exams...
However, each Fall semester, I did offer an extra credit point for bringing proof you got a flu shot.
Starfox5
Anti-Vaxxers should autofail medicine.
SpamRisk
As an RN it is shocking to me how little scientific knowledge is required to be an RN
squintish
I used to create data collection forms for clinical studies. Nurses seemed entirely uninterested in anything to do with dosage units.
What about that other level of nursing where you can write prescriptions etc?
pandro
Pre-Covid, nurses have said some of the stupidest folk knowledge to me as if it were real. And on the other hand, my sister is an RN and 1/
when I told her about a rare diagnosis I got, she started examining it the same as the doc did, she knew exactly what it was.
graehall
"Nurses are the best of us!" "Hold my catheter" - the other 25% of nurses.
Willowknowsall
Wipe butts, don't kill people
lurker9000
Co-worker nurse said masks are bad because it builds up CO2 and makes you acidotic. also said that’s why she was burping so much… cuz CO2…
Part of it seems to be that people are thinking with their bandwagoning gustatory adversion and not the knowledge they do have.
yournamechecksout
UselessIgnacio
They had to learn it in school, but few retain it. The actual job doesn't require much more than time management, unless you are in the ICU.
Sometimes people don't learn, they just figure out how to perform it.
Sauce. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210628/huge-number-of-hospital-workers
itsahorse
I tried to skim through most of it to find the reason.... They are just stupid?
Hiboredimdad
They're American. It's a cultural expectation to be poorly educated and selfish.
CowboyRooster
I just... Do they realize that if we don't all get vaccinated, we're at risk of further mutant strains that may be more lethal or require a/
new vaccine to protect against?? It's genuine fear of a deadly illness that drives me to get my vaccine shot ASAP.
But the vaccine's just a way for the government to make you sterile, track you with trackers put in the shot, etc (their words not mine)
(disclaimer) the words above are what I have heard from the idiots who don't want to get a shot. I personally have been fully vaccinated.
PaulHurley
I know a dude with a meteorology degree who is a climate change denier
Holtzmaneffect
Work with a Covid denier, at a pharmacy.
OddlyPacific
https://open.spotify.com/track/3XNoJnpZFL4jcZfZuhINww?si=JCBJsh9xTBu8GIxKl8hceQ&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1
djmenyo82
I live in a country full of "pro-life christians" that recently legalized the death penalty.
IAmZephyre
I work with Science "doubters." I'm a teacher.
Aranbro
mm
Ijustwanttobememe
I know a nurse that told me my autoimmune disease was caused by my childhood vaccines
sinbinrugger
I knew a flat earther who was in the Navy. He did 2 world cruises.
2Used2bUseful
I went to school with someone getting a geology degree that believed the earth was only 6000 yrs old.
intolerable
I work in a movie theater and one of my coworkers doesn’t like movies.
thepicklebucket
A degree is meaningless these days. Also expensive.
Pentjotal
I nearly break my nose with that face palm !
gromolko
I once had a geography teacher as a colleague who was a young earth creationist. (granted, it wasn't geology, but still...)
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Geography teacher said Earth turns clockwise, class says it's wrong, she rewinds the tape and WHILE DOING THAT says "see, I'm right!"
planetfinder
I mean that's just a point of view thing. Look up at the south pole and it is clockwise.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
I'm in Germany, we still look down from the North Pole. ;)
CeruleanSky1988
Can't fix stupid
StepOnTheSun
Can't compete with it either. . .
icommentwithsteveharvey
JhericFury
I am of the belief that there's a cult out there for everyone, that will bypass their bullshit detector, you just pray you don't find it.
BearbaFett
great video on the nexus between flat earth & Q anon. easy leap to antivax. it is loooong but so worth it. https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44
OGymruOGymro
Glad they censored Will Smith's face there.
DeguRatface
I wish I could wrap my head around this. Is it a need to feel special? is it the sense of community? my mum turned flat earther while I>
DeguRatface
was getting my degree and she has calmed down a bit now but she still keeps her 'mind open' as long as it's a bizarre conspiracy theory>
DeguRatface
that she's learning about but not when it comes to fact. It comes across as this "DON'T SHOW ME WHAT'S REAL. I'LL DECIDE WHAT'S REAL!" <
Shuckeru
I had a very similar experience when I went to uni - perhaps they do it to compensate for the widening difference in education?
DeguRatface
Perhaps. She countered me learning about the planet and evolution by stopping believing in the planet and evolution lol
Shuckeru
Ya, super similar experience.
GraeYstaG237
Skumbo
have you tried calming sitting down with them, and hitting them?
DownUnderAussie
In a previous life I was a Maritime Navigator - I worked with a flat earther…..if you know anything about Nav you’ll know how fucked THAT is
[deleted]
[deleted]
DownUnderAussie
He was also a creationist, ergo a totally fucked up moron….
ExTechOp
Great Circles! If he followed the "North pole is center" model, how did he explain no discrepancies turning up with navigation in that area?
dasoffendor
why is will smith's face blurred out? like did somebody not want to give away what the meme actually was?
fsfrms
How do you know it's will smith
Sprinx
Piotheman
I feel it says a lot about the mental state of humanity as a whole, like a good 33 to 50% of the earth population won't cope with reality.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Have you SEEN reality? No thanks!
GnomeDeGuerre
Says a lot about the cognitive dissonance that we carry around.
JesusToldMe
Even the best education can't compete with stupid.
Booklover4life
Education can’t fix willful ignorance.Anti vaxx and flat earthers are willfully ignorant, doesn’t mean they didn’t pay $ for college tuition
HieronymousFlex
There's a reason Intelligence and Wisdom are two separate stats in D&D.
AnythingMuchShorter
Different kinds of intellect. I have a cousin who thinks he must be smart because he programs PLCs. But he is an anti-vax, climate change/
AnythingMuchShorter
denying, global shadow government believing, fanatical trump supporter. It just doesn't stop him from clicking the clicky wires on the ports
PenguRhys
Knowledge is not the same as wisdom. Stupidity is not the same as being unintelligent. One can be intelligent but still stupid af. ^.^
redsmerf
So what if she's pregnant?
m4dm4n
I thought the anti vaxxer was pragant.
Sprinx
how to become prgunet
cattingtons
Pergonat
m4dm4n
Bergamot.
Gnavin
Took me a second - the abbreviation is "Planned Parenthood". No context on whether the pregnancy was intentional or unintentional, tho.
Kleverin
Or she is pregnant in 2 years and that's to long, usually it's just 9 months, give or take some weeks. She should know it's to long..
SethBalmore
It's all a part of her plan.
RayMC
Thats bothering me too. I hope @OP realizes that some people WANT several kids and are able to provide for them. There’s no stupidity there.
HotStrongid
Hey, uh, maybe you hadn’t heard, but, uh, this planet’s on fire. You, uh, might want to think about a more family-friendly neighborhood…
MiguelCamino
Guess what happens if only the people who don't believe are the only ones raising the next generation.
Sparksol
That's one way to tell when someone's in the job purely for the money.
DCNR
I'd say it's more like the way to tell if someone lied on their resume.
Barkinsons
I see a lot of students that study biology as a broad topic but end up in labs because that's the only available job
SerialChickenLover
And that having an education doesn’t necessarily mean you’re smart. But still, don’t drop out of high school and make that your anthem.
CyanideBreathMint
Or got the job because of WHO they know, not what they know.
MajorSession
I'm a microbiologist. I make minimum wage. There is hardly any money in science.
JudgementalMan
Especially biology...
MostlyHarmlessT
Really? I think here in Belgium it is actually quit okay. I’m a biologist myself and I don’t think I can complain. But I can imagine it (1)
MostlyHarmlessT
Depends on where and which country. I heard PhD students in Spain barely make enough to pay rent, let alone be able to live (2)
PleasantPeasantPheasant
I'm almost done with my study applied biology, most of the jobs in the field are for volunteers :/
EmergencyChocolate
Do the volunteers get paid in exposure?
Maitrify
Aren't most? I know I wouldn't do my job if I didn't get paid
justthoughtyousholdknow
I know I am. My morals quickly go if more money is on the table.
ArcanistMMXIV
I'd do my job for free for 2 days a week, if I didn't have to work 5 to live
doctorpaulproteus
There's a difference to being in a job solely for the money and doing it for free lol
Sjama
Think about that: Any job you do is exactly 40hrs a week and you get the same salary at the beginning (before potential promotion). In this
Sjama
case which job would you prefer to do. For some, there is not much difference, others would take a paycut for a job that they like more
NKato
I wouldn't take a pay cut. Mostly because the RENT IS TOO FUCKING DAMN HIGH. Bitch, pay me more before even suggesting I'd get a pay cut.
JodyBird
Welcome to the machine
Sibep
I personally care little about money as long as I can live comfortably. Doing something I enjoy is much more important for me.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
Its by design that most jobs only pay enough to pay for rent,food,car,...they dont want you to have a choice to a certain degree
Someshithead241
Some don't even do that
Jsdmv
More than 25% of nurses refuse to get vaccinated. Go figure. (Sauce in next comment)
Shineupordown
i heard more like 50 % . and heard nurses telling patient/friends that vaccine causes sterility so they shouldn't vaccinate their kids hmm..
cuttlesquirt
This is why the people around me have vaccine skepticism- health workers who refuse the vaccine.
ArdentSlacker
Well, they didn't get into nursing to help people. Those are the ones who like having power over sick people.
Baheimoth
My sister in law is one of those
rossimus
Nurses who won't get vaccinated should be fired on the spot.
Schoonbot
My aunt is a nurse and told me to not get it. I was like but you work in health care...
sassiswhatIaimfor
I don't get why this one's their hill to die on; they've been declining flu for years, but now they refuse to even do the decline form
pseudopseudonym
I feel like this is going to put a big dent in the ol' 'arrogant doctors, practical nurses' meme.
nonetoowitty
The study is actually about hospital workers, not nurses specifically. Plenty of physicians are refusing it too, unfortunately.
pseudopseudonym
Turns out all that med school is worth something after all.
SirSmurfalot
They are just demonstrating which of them should not be employed in that profession and should be promptly fired.
m4dm4n
They hate doctors so much.
0Banacek0
I think that is mostly opposition to mandatory flu shots.
joebwab
Is it nurses or hospital staff? Reading the article it seems to suggest that the stats can be misleading for a number of reasons. Good read.
sgtjim
My sister in law is a hospital nurse and refuses to get vaccinated. She's also in Florida. So not sure how far off the numbers might be
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
My friend nurse got offered the Astra Zeneca vaccine while the better Pfizer vaccines were reserved for the doctors at her hospital.
paintingagency
That's bad, but also stupid bc they ALL work.
ArdentSlacker
They're both FINE.
lospaturno
that's to avoid covid-related jobs
YoloSwagginsAndTheKnightsOfTheRoundTable
Yep I work with a lot of nurses AND MDs that refuse to get the vaccine. Every single nurse that I work with that didn't get the vac got covi
somnif
I used to have a lot of nursing students when I taught at uni. I'd average 1-2 vocally anti-vax a semester. I taught microbio and genetics.
Awaras
And you passed them? Doesn't that make it kinda on you?
somnif
I asked my supervisor, I had to grade the assignments I gave, not anything else. Though several did fail spectacularly even at those.
Awaras
Yup, they are usually pretty good at parroting the official line to pass exams...
somnif
However, each Fall semester, I did offer an extra credit point for bringing proof you got a flu shot.
Starfox5
Anti-Vaxxers should autofail medicine.
SpamRisk
As an RN it is shocking to me how little scientific knowledge is required to be an RN
[deleted]
[deleted]
squintish
I used to create data collection forms for clinical studies. Nurses seemed entirely uninterested in anything to do with dosage units.
0Banacek0
What about that other level of nursing where you can write prescriptions etc?
pandro
Pre-Covid, nurses have said some of the stupidest folk knowledge to me as if it were real. And on the other hand, my sister is an RN and 1/
pandro
when I told her about a rare diagnosis I got, she started examining it the same as the doc did, she knew exactly what it was.
graehall
"Nurses are the best of us!" "Hold my catheter" - the other 25% of nurses.
Willowknowsall
Wipe butts, don't kill people
lurker9000
Co-worker nurse said masks are bad because it builds up CO2 and makes you acidotic. also said that’s why she was burping so much… cuz CO2…
GnomeDeGuerre
Part of it seems to be that people are thinking with their bandwagoning gustatory adversion and not the knowledge they do have.
yournamechecksout
UselessIgnacio
They had to learn it in school, but few retain it. The actual job doesn't require much more than time management, unless you are in the ICU.
GnomeDeGuerre
Sometimes people don't learn, they just figure out how to perform it.
Jsdmv
Sauce. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210628/huge-number-of-hospital-workers
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itsahorse
I tried to skim through most of it to find the reason.... They are just stupid?
Hiboredimdad
They're American. It's a cultural expectation to be poorly educated and selfish.
CowboyRooster
I just... Do they realize that if we don't all get vaccinated, we're at risk of further mutant strains that may be more lethal or require a/
CowboyRooster
new vaccine to protect against?? It's genuine fear of a deadly illness that drives me to get my vaccine shot ASAP.
PenguRhys
But the vaccine's just a way for the government to make you sterile, track you with trackers put in the shot, etc (their words not mine)
PenguRhys
(disclaimer) the words above are what I have heard from the idiots who don't want to get a shot. I personally have been fully vaccinated.