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mrkosmoo2
Yeah but what if they are one of those people that don't clean the top of the toothpaste, and think that's ok
Oglemi
Nah it's because of this mentality that we are where we are today in US. If someone is wrong they need to be told they are wrong.
MicrosoftWizard7
That's when you flip the vinyl over from "Argue" to "Troll".
evilspyre
If you don't argue then people will end up agreeing with the idiot more as their viewpoint was unopposed. Doesn't seem right to do that.
TotallyNotASnail
Another thing to ask yourself: "Do I care?"
wenmidd3
...or...Do I care more than is necessary for the situation?
wenmidd3
...or do I care enough to make myself an insufferable twat waffle? lol
strugglesnuggler
So basically 80% of American political discourse is out the window then
illogicalphallusies
i dont argue with people online to change their minds. I argue with people so others reading it dont ONLY see the batshit insanity.
illogicalphallusies
Ill never change your mind...But I hope I can change a kid/young adults mind who happened across it.
bugcooper
i bet he did not have very many imaginary interweb points
MadHakon
To openly challenge people isn't always about changing their perspective, especially on social media. The public narrative influences (1)
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bystanders/young adults. If we do not advocate for truth when the opportunity arises, we should not be surprised at how many people (2)
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will eventually believe nonsense.
Azawarau
You beat me to it. People take arguments and disagreements too personally and that's half the issue as well
Neuronutter
The irony of this being on Imgur, lol
CherubCow
Did you *seriously* just give me the smallest bit of opposition?? You’re clearly a collaborator! I must mute you to protect my dissonance!❤️
Demikmj
Are we quoting this guy? If yes who is this guy? Am I dumb for not knowing?
MakingplansforNigel
No you’re not dumb but you’re probably young
NotaCPA
I'm 37, who is this guy?
Iaimtomisbehave
Dick Gregory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gregory .
Mr21782Man
I've had to take this approach recently with Trump cultists lately. Too many of them just making stuff up. At that point you can't argue.
D0cH0lliday
Yea I always have to go to "You cant use reason to argue someone out of a position they didn't use reason to get them selves into"
D0cH0lliday
The shit they believe is so beyond crazy and illogical that there really is no point in trying to debate. Thats a cult for you.
Mr21782Man
Yeah, they simply could not come to believe that some of the arguments they used to debate were completely made up
Azawarau
I got called an asshole here after saying someone I talked to didn't have the ability to understand other perspectives. Stay classy
mildcaseofmalaria
Using this logic you wouldn’t argue with nazis or animal abusers. No thanks.
dirrrtypiratehookerrr
And this is why I have a politics free home
mattituuude
Then it will fester in the silence
MacaulayCulpable
Although I agree, I must retort. Calling a dumbfuck out for dumbfuckery is sometimes necessary. You can't just let the dumbfuckery stand.
IdUpvoteYouButYoureAt69
"If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" -- ok but im hearing some truly ignorant shit right now so wtf??
IdUpvoteYouButYoureAt69
I'm constantly torn bc of it
MacaulayCulpable
Same.
PictureArchiver
I have asked myself that question, not always, and I have refrained myself from engaging when it would have been pointless anyway.
Laylah77
So you’re saying facebook should be destroyed?
Raeke
I was ranting about my mom once and my coworker asked “Is your mom a reasonable person?” And when I said “no” he said “then why are you /1
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expecting reason from her right now?” Changed how I dealt with her. /2
Munchman347
Dick was always on point!...
Ryanator50
"What did Obama do that was so bad?" "He said that the USA is not a Christian Nation" "If it was a christian nation would I be allowed in?"
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and they'd be like "Wait what?"
rottieandmutt
Maybe also ask the same of yourself
victell
This introspection has helped me a lot actually.
swellguy18
This. I try hard to be open minded but I can acknowledge there are subjects I'm not ready to accept alternate perspectives on.
mudstew
This has helped me so much since the first time I saw this.
NotTheSameAnymore
1. Does it need to be said? 2. Does it need to be said now? 3. Does it need to be said by me? 4. Is it worth saying?
TA2019
Social media has absolutely bastardized #1 on this list
howitzer921072
My Grandad taught me this. I try to adhere to it, not always successfully. If more people would give it a try we might live in a nicer space
twfx
1. Is it funny? 2. Say it.
imissmaplesyrup
Am I horny?
SzKnoWnzEvr72
5. Will I be murdered because of what I said?
tombrazelton
Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it kind? I try to remember those.
CitizenPrime
That's for rumours, not debate
tombrazelton
It’s about mindfulness in speech.
CitizenPrime
In ancient Greece, Socrates (the famous philosopher) was visited by an acquaintance of his. Eager to share some juicy gossip, the man asked
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Socrates would he like to know the story he just heard about a friend of theirs. Socrates replied that before the man spoke, he needed to
elinveronicap
If 1 and 4 is yes, I'd ask for 2 and 3 "if not now, when? If not me, who?"
badbirdlb
I find that asking questions that will help lead them to a understanding the other side without directly challenging them works pretty well
Arvykins
I cherish every opportunity to debate about politics, but most of the time just turn into me giving lectures, and the other person listening
Arvykins
With my college buddies we give each other lectures...and we often change our opinions by the end of the debate
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Shit, every time I try to talk to my dad about why he shouldn't fellate corporations at every opportunity
nevernotsure
If I did this I wouldnt really talk to most people
BetterKnownAsJasonDarket
I'm sorry the only people you know are Trump supporters
nevernotsure
Stupid isn't one sided
ArcaneAlchemist
but they do tend to flock together.
wenmidd3
Probably tells you something right there.
Thewinterisstillhere
Same man,. My FB account is so lonely. Quietly and stress-free lonely.
Quenry
The silence can be addictive
RedneckFrank
You have an incredibly high opinion of yourself
leavemealoneapp
Or working with care of either toddlers or mentally challenged.
twfx
‘If you have a hard time making fun of yourself, I can do it for you.’ - Groucho Marx
usersub2345
Or an incredibly low opinion of other people.
RedneckFrank
Whats the difference
victell
“I may be dumb, but I’m not THAT dumb” sorta thing
RedneckFrank
You can hate yourself and still be egotistical sure, but it doesn't really make you any less of a dick
Rheios
"I'm terrible idiotic, slothful, wrathful monster. Why the fuck are you so many of you *worse*?" on my more negative days, in fact.
FlyingTigerRose
The great Dick Gregory! I had the deep pleasure of meeting him decades ago. Was able to shake his hand and get an autograph.
tgeliot
I thought that was him.
treadnot
What was he like in person? The interviews with him in his later years are so out there
FlyingTigerRose
At the time I was working in The Sharper Image and damn if he didn't just come in! He had several men with him (protection?) but he was (1/
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so pleased to be recognized - great big smile! I ran off to grab a catalog then babbled about his vegetarian cookbook changing my life. (2/
FlyingTigerRose
I had just moved back to Florida from New Orleans, where I'd gotten some great autographs. Since celebrities can spook easily, I was (3/
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gentle and respectful when I asked him for his autograph. He seemed busy and distracted when he came in, but he had such a kind look (4/