Ironically, I care less about Karen McBitchface being her usual cunty self than I do about the fact we let any company get away with not paying workers a living wage. Theres a reason the civilized countries got rid of tip-based jobs.
I just had a cashier at a drive-thru call me "baby", And well I thought that was kind of weird... it's just a word. I don't have energy to waste on getting upset about stupid shit.
You know how many times I've been called hon or sweetie, or sweetheart by a waitress? Well, not a lot. But, when it happens it's always because it's so into their vocabulary that they say that to everyone. It's just how they end certain sentences. I didn't think much of it.
My hubs and I did go to a bbq place a bunch of times where the food was amazing, the service was terrible, and the main waitress was the owners’ adult daughter, and she absolutely hit on my husband. He didn’t notice until I pointed it out. I started pointedly taking the check and paying the tip myself (still 18-20%) and she kept ignoring me and focusing on my husband. We eventually stopped going. We’ve been together 20+ years and that’s never happened anywhere else, I’m not insecure I swear.
Or sometimes it's just someone attempting to be nice to another human as their livelihood depends on it. Going by the comment on the receipt it was said to a man.
Calling my employee "sweetheart", not ok. The waitress in a diner walking up to the table saying, "what can I get you, sweetheart", totally different. Context matters.
Isn't it strange that a man calling a woman sweetheart is wrong, but a woman calling a man sweetheart is okay? Context does matter of course, but any man calling a female stranger sweetheart seems to be wrong.
I didn't say anything about man and woman in my above example but I do agree that's part of the necessary context because a lot of it is about the power dynamic, and there is still a disparity between men and women. But no one is going to think the waitress is asserting authority, which is why I think it's familiar and not inappropriate. I'm talking about the general case; no idea what happened to lead to that silly receipt.
My comment wasn't intending to insinuate that yours had to do with gender, merely that in my mind it seems strange that there is a gender requirement. You are correct there does seem to be a demeaning authority quality when a male uses the term.
I waitressed for a long time. What I learned is that women love being called miss, and men like being called sir. And when seniors try to order from the senior menu, request an ID… because “they look too young to order from that menu”… and then wink. Works like a charm every time.
The senior menu is a scam! I was so excited when iI hit 55 - ha ha, gonna get a discount you suckers - and its cheaper because the portions are smaller. I wept quietly into my tiny sandwich.
So what do you want to be called? Like what’s your replacement for sir or ma’am when interacting with strangers or anyone in the service industry? What’s the non offensive mode of address? Genuine question.
Like the original ma'am or miss is fine, because I don't feel there's a good alternative. But after the first use, I'd rather they just kinda go for the neutral things like "How're you guys doing?" or just drop any references at all and just ask if everything is ok. There's no need to call me miss/ma'am ten times during a meal, but that's just my personal preference. I'd rather feel like I'm on the same level with the server instead of being singled out with a more formal title.
What an insecure bitch. On a side note, tipping should be abolished. Pay your staff a living wage. Servers shouldn’t be held hostage by assholes like this woman.
Restaurants near me have started adding 20% service fees on top of a recommended 20% gratuity. None of the service fee goes to the wait staff, but people think it does. Meaning it is straight up wage theft.
My wife makes the equivalent of $30+/hour serving after tips. $50-70/hour on great nights. More than she ever did as a manager and much fewer hours. I see very few restaurants being able,not to mention willing, to match those rates.
There are now restaurants in the US that automatically add a 15% “living wage” surcharge. It’s ridiculous. Just lay your employees a living wage!! Increase your prices if you have to! Don’t add a bullshit surcharge onto my bill to cover your responsibilities
It's not exactly easy for an individual restaurants to buck a nationwide trend, which would result in higher prices in an already extremely cutthroat industry.
Prices of food are roughly tge same where In country I live, tipping is very rare and wages good. So business models without tipping are doable. No free refills is only difference
That's why I said "individual" restaurants, i.e. a non-tipping restaurant has to have higher prices, which puts them at a competitive disadvantage. No-tipping can certainly work economically, it just has to be done everywhere all at once, which is a high bar to cross.
Oh and: source? Because I have worked as a bartender as a pizza delivery boy and as a waiter in a rather upscale restaurant and in all three instances, the tips were definitely encouraging to make the best of our guests experiences. As you state it you can only get exceptional service if the serving staff has to be worried not to be able to make rent if they depend on tips. Which is a really dangerous world view.
I don’t get how America has not figured this out yet. Of course it’s encouraging if you’re doing it right. Everywhere I go here in Europe, the Tip is appreciation for exceptional service. The better the service (and/or the food, depending on how the restaurant splits the tip) the higher the amount I’m tipping, if service was dogshit, no tip. Easy. And it’s REALLY rare, that I had do withhold a tip here because service is almost everywhere really good.
I've only ever known one who was actually opposed to it and he worked at a place where he'd bring home a few hundred per shift because the average dinner bill was around $300 and his "tips" were automatically tacked onto the bill and paid out of the drawer. And as soon as that place went under he was quickly off his bullshit.
In the same way people in red states keep voting Republican. They're advocating for their own exploitation because they don't understand the situation, because their abusers make sure they don't know better.
more like how realtors wouldn’t be happy to lose commission, or stock brokers losing their commission, etc. tipping is commission, it should just be auto included in the price and be done with letting people guess what is appropriate.
Because they think abolishing tips means they make the same wage just with no tips. What advocated are asking for, though, is that their wage raises to a point where the tip becomes redundant.
Well that’s why is that a living wage of $25 or $30 an hour is significantly less than the $50 an hour a lot of them are able to pull in with the tipping model
I mean any server in my home town made significantly more than I did but you obviously need some level experience to get into those roles which I didn’t have at that point
My server called me Mi Amor when dropping off the box for my leftover enchiladas. It was lovely. And yeah that chick needs to stay away from the south if this offends her. She’d run out of energy confronting everyone.
Well how hard is it for northerners to realize that different cultural norms exist for groups of people? You expect all of the south to change because you’re offended by being called sir or ma’am as a sign of politeness and respect? Also the military drills it in to you as well. No matter if you’re from the south or not. That’s just a weird thing to be offended by.
I suppose up north we just do not use the term as frequently and if a northerner uses the term it hits diffferent. I was not taking a swipe at any one in particular
Zetor
90% sure she's cheating, so she thinks everyone does
joyeuxAK
Bless your heart! Maybe you should just stay home next time.
RoyDMercer
She found an excuse to screw the server.
zeacorzeppelin10
What a bitch
woozle
WolfRamX4
Ironically, I care less about Karen McBitchface being her usual cunty self than I do about the fact we let any company get away with not paying workers a living wage. Theres a reason the civilized countries got rid of tip-based jobs.
FeeltheFX
Don’t flatter yourself.
SophieClockwise
baturro
It's possible that the real tip was left in cash.
eromitlab
Well, shit, don't go to Bawlmer where everyone is hon.
URNOTFUNNY1226
To everyone attacking the cardholder (all of you assume it's a female), how do you know they didn't leave a cash tip along with the note?
Betacoo
For $32, that’s all he gets
Buef0rd
If you're not nice to the wait staff then you're an asshole
kahlas
"How dare this waitress be nicer to my husband than I approve of." -some heartless Karen.
HappySlothlet
Posts like this never seem to show the bottom of the receipt where it says "Merchant's Copy"
ababyzarmholdinganapple
I was gonna post “Customer Copy” but you pretty much covered it.
rhxretrohelix
Only in murica
HeywouldJablowme
What an insecure cunt
Osicat
Glad to live in a country where service personnel get payed and if someone tryed tip em they would be suspicious as it weard
ScrippyChan
I just had a cashier at a drive-thru call me "baby", And well I thought that was kind of weird... it's just a word. I don't have energy to waste on getting upset about stupid shit.
Kbantar
I don't like being called with terms of endearment by anyone but my partner. But stiffing a tip for that is really douchey.
Denare
You know how many times I've been called hon or sweetie, or sweetheart by a waitress? Well, not a lot. But, when it happens it's always because it's so into their vocabulary that they say that to everyone. It's just how they end certain sentences. I didn't think much of it.
WhatTheFrench
My hubs and I did go to a bbq place a bunch of times where the food was amazing, the service was terrible, and the main waitress was the owners’ adult daughter, and she absolutely hit on my husband. He didn’t notice until I pointed it out. I started pointedly taking the check and paying the tip myself (still 18-20%) and she kept ignoring me and focusing on my husband. We eventually stopped going. We’ve been together 20+ years and that’s never happened anywhere else, I’m not insecure I swear.
WhatTheFrench
We wouldn’t have gone back as many times as we did but the bbq was SO GOOD.
RenaissanceFaireMan
The Walmart lady at the deli counter called me something today as she was bagging up my small jalapeno poppers. I was all, "You too!"
nothingtolurkhere
retailmemedrone
Both me and the wife tip our servers well. People who do this crap should not be allowed in public.
Skizzlesnap
I’d make sure to follow them out and wave at say “bye sweetheart!”
sevro77
The nerve of that server be hospitable to their guest.
Issues420916
I don't know if calling someone "sweetheart" is being hospitable though...I feel like if this was a man to a woman, it would be harassment.
MeekrabJones
The server isn't the one calling anyone sweetheart.
sevro77
Or sometimes it's just someone attempting to be nice to another human as their livelihood depends on it. Going by the comment on the receipt it was said to a man.
Issues420916
Maybe we should just stay away from calling people sweetheart regardless of gender. Is plenty of other ways to show kindness
sirava
Calling my employee "sweetheart", not ok. The waitress in a diner walking up to the table saying, "what can I get you, sweetheart", totally different. Context matters.
drcurlyfat
Context and intent matters. Or, at least, it used to matter. I don't know how anything works anymore.
MaybeIllDisappear
Isn't it strange that a man calling a woman sweetheart is wrong, but a woman calling a man sweetheart is okay? Context does matter of course, but any man calling a female stranger sweetheart seems to be wrong.
sirava
I didn't say anything about man and woman in my above example but I do agree that's part of the necessary context because a lot of it is about the power dynamic, and there is still a disparity between men and women. But no one is going to think the waitress is asserting authority, which is why I think it's familiar and not inappropriate. I'm talking about the general case; no idea what happened to lead to that silly receipt.
MaybeIllDisappear
My comment wasn't intending to insinuate that yours had to do with gender, merely that in my mind it seems strange that there is a gender requirement. You are correct there does seem to be a demeaning authority quality when a male uses the term.
jupiterspinning
I waitressed for a long time. What I learned is that women love being called miss, and men like being called sir. And when seniors try to order from the senior menu, request an ID… because “they look too young to order from that menu”… and then wink. Works like a charm every time.
Skawomplious
I used to work a 7-11. Carding 30-something ladies for their alcohol was the highlight of my day.
evilspock
The senior menu is a scam! I was so excited when iI hit 55 - ha ha, gonna get a discount you suckers - and its cheaper because the portions are smaller. I wept quietly into my tiny sandwich.
Spongybunny
I hate being called ma'am or miss, but that's just me. I prefer to be just like everyone else in the crowd.
ObiWanKenobitch
So what do you want to be called? Like what’s your replacement for sir or ma’am when interacting with strangers or anyone in the service industry? What’s the non offensive mode of address? Genuine question.
Spongybunny
Like the original ma'am or miss is fine, because I don't feel there's a good alternative. But after the first use, I'd rather they just kinda go for the neutral things like "How're you guys doing?" or just drop any references at all and just ask if everything is ok. There's no need to call me miss/ma'am ten times during a meal, but that's just my personal preference. I'd rather feel like I'm on the same level with the server instead of being singled out with a more formal title.
teamnice
Yes this is me too 100% Makes me super uncomfortable to be perceived at different levels of BS social hierarchies
teamnice
Even when I started teaching it took a long time to get used to “Miss”
RancidFlakes
Meh not sure.. I hate being called sir... Dude is fine
SanshinDojo
What an insecure bitch. On a side note, tipping should be abolished. Pay your staff a living wage. Servers shouldn’t be held hostage by assholes like this woman.
odinragnarok
Calicious
Restaurants near me have started adding 20% service fees on top of a recommended 20% gratuity. None of the service fee goes to the wait staff, but people think it does. Meaning it is straight up wage theft.
troy1984
Yup
khor1287
My wife makes the equivalent of $30+/hour serving after tips. $50-70/hour on great nights. More than she ever did as a manager and much fewer hours. I see very few restaurants being able,not to mention willing, to match those rates.
c246ykycym2000
Calmd down satan
schizznatt
There are now restaurants in the US that automatically add a 15% “living wage” surcharge. It’s ridiculous. Just lay your employees a living wage!! Increase your prices if you have to! Don’t add a bullshit surcharge onto my bill to cover your responsibilities
schizznatt
I don’t tip extra when this happens.
CyanideBreathMint
Or, hear me out, by their bitch ass employers.
whatsisname
It's not exactly easy for an individual restaurants to buck a nationwide trend, which would result in higher prices in an already extremely cutthroat industry.
Redisia
Prices of food are roughly tge same where In country I live, tipping is very rare and wages good. So business models without tipping are doable. No free refills is only difference
whatsisname
That's why I said "individual" restaurants, i.e. a non-tipping restaurant has to have higher prices, which puts them at a competitive disadvantage. No-tipping can certainly work economically, it just has to be done everywhere all at once, which is a high bar to cross.
Fn0rd
Both! Pay your staff a living (if not a thriving) wage AND encourage great service by tips, as a tax free bonus.
mrthewhitee
False. Tipping does nothing to encourage or discourage great service. Tipping needs to be abolished.
Fn0rd
Oh and: source? Because I have worked as a bartender as a pizza delivery boy and as a waiter in a rather upscale restaurant and in all three instances, the tips were definitely encouraging to make the best of our guests experiences. As you state it you can only get exceptional service if the serving staff has to be worried not to be able to make rent if they depend on tips. Which is a really dangerous world view.
Fn0rd
I don’t get how America has not figured this out yet. Of course it’s encouraging if you’re doing it right. Everywhere I go here in Europe, the Tip is appreciation for exceptional service. The better the service (and/or the food, depending on how the restaurant splits the tip) the higher the amount I’m tipping, if service was dogshit, no tip. Easy. And it’s REALLY rare, that I had do withhold a tip here because service is almost everywhere really good.
aslowgiantfart
Strangely, servers seem to be the ones most opposed to this
RandAIFlagg
I've only ever known one who was actually opposed to it and he worked at a place where he'd bring home a few hundred per shift because the average dinner bill was around $300 and his "tips" were automatically tacked onto the bill and paid out of the drawer. And as soon as that place went under he was quickly off his bullshit.
xlr82xs
Or the "well I don't have to pay tax on my tips" argument.
Crowlands
In the same way people in red states keep voting Republican. They're advocating for their own exploitation because they don't understand the situation, because their abusers make sure they don't know better.
ihavesexwithllamas6
more like how realtors wouldn’t be happy to lose commission, or stock brokers losing their commission, etc. tipping is commission, it should just be auto included in the price and be done with letting people guess what is appropriate.
mrthewhitee
Because they think abolishing tips means they make the same wage just with no tips. What advocated are asking for, though, is that their wage raises to a point where the tip becomes redundant.
aslowgiantfart
Well that’s why is that a living wage of $25 or $30 an hour is significantly less than the $50 an hour a lot of them are able to pull in with the tipping model
glittalogik
"a lot of them", i.e. "attractive servers who tolerate creepy attention"
aslowgiantfart
I mean any server in my home town made significantly more than I did but you obviously need some level experience to get into those roles which I didn’t have at that point
Illithidbane
"Understood. Next time, I will upgrade him to Sugar."
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
*Tovarisch
RenaissanceFaireMan
Waitress will remember and give crap service next time and/or flirt even harder with said husband.
RenaissanceFaireMan
"I just need his phone number, for survey purposes!"
wherethehorriblethingsare
That or ask the cook with a cold sore to lick the rim of her glass.
SleepyKitten
In the southern US, everyone is called "Honey, Sweety, Sweetheart" and my personal favorite "Sugar".
Tumescentpie
Roll tide. https://youtube.com/shorts/b6OiaJQ5_HY?si=uF3aGpY9CWJwHfzM
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Right? Honey, Sweetie, Sweetheart - terms of general friendliness from middle aged women.
JiffyGee
I call everyone hun. It just comes out. I’m in the Midwest.
ObiWanKenobitch
Hun is also a good one. Used here in the south too.
stoney7
I love when I visit the states and I get called one of these.. it’s like a hug in a word ❤️
ObiWanKenobitch
My server called me Mi Amor when dropping off the box for my leftover enchiladas. It was lovely. And yeah that chick needs to stay away from the south if this offends her. She’d run out of energy confronting everyone.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
*vacations to the Southern US as a middle-aged man and addresses the local men as "sugar" and "sweetheart"*
genepoolboy
Yeah I cannot visit the country any more after I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes :|
ItsCaptain0bvious
Sugar?
madeejit
I'll never trust anyone as much as this man trusts his barber.
CyrilConnolly
You could also use 'Cariño', Javier Bardem.
MileysVirus
Bless your heart
fnansen
In the north if you say "Mam" it hits different... in an unpleasant way. I feel certain that southern folk have figured that out by now.
ObiWanKenobitch
Well how hard is it for northerners to realize that different cultural norms exist for groups of people? You expect all of the south to change because you’re offended by being called sir or ma’am as a sign of politeness and respect? Also the military drills it in to you as well. No matter if you’re from the south or not. That’s just a weird thing to be offended by.
fnansen
I suppose up north we just do not use the term as frequently and if a northerner uses the term it hits diffferent. I was not taking a swipe at any one in particular
grandopening
No. They haven't. You visit their domicile area, go ahead and treat it like a foreign country with differing customs. 'Cause it is.
16bitStarbuck
Yall need to stop.
Filanwizard
I am sure that goes triple if in a diner.
ThereWillBeDownvotes
*Shugga
comacomacomacomachameleon
old black lady everyone calls "Big Mama" at a small town diner in the south.
SleepyKitten
That depends on how sassy you're feeling.
astrangehop
That sounds terrible
MadamPuddifoot
I just call everybody "y'all". It's all inclusive!
ObiWanKenobitch
Except y’all is for more than one person. Not for a singular person where sugar or honey or love sweetheart would be used.