Jun 22, 2020 7:13 AM
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Yueling
How to deal with a sociopath 101. Also, get out of there for your own safety and mental wellbeing.
orangetomatoe
What an odd looking pen.
SwordsToTheSkyWeRideAtDawn
Doesn't this have a nicer meme?
SentientDumpsterfire
Nah, plant drugs in their car and call the cops when they get in it and drive off.
ThickTomato
This is something the person I just cut off would do
idontcareifthesundontshine
A woman who I worked with once came into the staff room and saw me talking to a colleague, she asked the colleague to come and help her with
Something. When they were out of the room she said to my colleague 'you're welcome'she had been 'saving'my colleague from my company
My colleague told me over beers later and was like wtf?
Aelonwy
Watch out though. People tend to believe the first story they hear even when given evidence to the contrary they hold tight to their first
conception/impression. It sucks but its difficult to turn things around when someone poisons your reputation with others.
stonekaiju
Ruudeboy
Also, don't be a punching bag for other people, you don't deserve that.
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
Can't tell if this is Facebook or...
keyonne
Do no harm, take no shit.
MomofukuJones
However, do acquire a punching bag so you can practice those sick moves you saw in that youtube video once
Great idea
EoghanReen
Who downvotes this comment? No actually you do deserve to be treated like shit.
rubberbuscuit2018
I am guessing people who have been the victims of vicious smear campaigns who took action against the people smearing them. Have an attorney
Send a cease and desist. If you can prove slander (which is difficult) sue for slander. Their Homeowners policy may pay you big bucks.
CreepyPhlox
Trump’s motto lol!
RoboticRichardSimmons
Brother is going thru this with his ex. She abused him for years, he finally left, now she has convinced their kids he was the abuser. Smh
coronalmassejection
Rise above it..
CiaranMcHale
This is like Microsoft support: both technically correct and useless advice. +1
scruffmonster88
Noooope unfortunately these people are so good at their craft they made you feel like the bad guy
andly9
Yeah in an ideal world, but reality is that no always people have good judgement
theGuyThatOneTime
Well that’s just not true. My faith people’s ability to look outside of what they’ve been told is pretty low. Expose the lies with truth .
margaretolson
I’d rather not have people in my life who are so easily willing to believe bad things about me, to be honest.
Me neither, and that bit I can choose.... but I also have to work with people I can’t choose.
OnismPiglet
Not in my experience. It takes years and by then you've lost everyone you cared about.
Then they weren’t worth it. If people are so willing to believe bad things about you then they didn’t really love you to begin with. 1/
2/you’re better off without those people
I think my problem is that I try to befriend people nobody likes because as a kid I knew how that felt. And I get to discover-
first hand just why nobody will befriend them as they tear my friendship circles apart like a rabid piranha. Twice fooled right? -
Third time lucky! If I manage to make friends again.
Judhael
Simple blanket advice never works for all people in all situations.
DocTanner
In my experience, they often don't. I lost a LOT of friends and family to that misinformation.
2/2 Though, to be clear, it's not a reason to get free. I didn't lose anyone that was actually trustworthy.
StankyPankySammich
There’s a girl in our group that does this. She started dating one the friends which is how she joined. She said I drug girls drinks, told +
+my friends gf that he’s cheating on her, which he isn’t, she just spreads rumors in texts and starts shit. Like, the fact I actually had ++
++a Friend ask if I drug women’s drinks put me over the edge. That chick is dead to me. She does all that then acts really cool/nice You
Me1iss0
Classic Trump tactics.
HandoB4Javert
TarrkertheNewt
I forget the exact wording but, idiots will try to drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Don't let them.
FrijolesTheGreat
Solid truth, I’ve lived through it myself. Burned those bridges to the ground and never looked back.
schrubb
First time is hard, but in the retrospective you feel better and better. Never make the mistake to get back on them later for any reason!
mehgyverr
may the bridges you burn, light the way
Amen.
WizeGuyThoughts
Does this also apply to overly negative and depressed people in your life? Are they toxic as well or is it not their fault?
Try to be there for them, but if they don't try to work on the problems and you start feeling depressed and exhausted yourself, get away!
Bforcs
Does the relationship with them leave you drained, angry, dreading the next interaction? They might be toxic. If you love them anyway, nah
This.
cathyarctic
Good on yu. This is my umpteenth time trying to stay away from the toxic wastage :(
Makeshiftshapeshift
Cut that shit out!! Clean break
You can do it! It’s difficult at first but you can totally do it. That first step is always the hardest mission.
ReaperCDN
Victim here: This is stupid advice. Toxic people making you look bad will absolutely pin shit on you. Make it known they're targeting you.
Trusting in the truth to win out is trusting other people to listen to evidence. Think about that. We have flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers /1
and fucking Tiger King. DO NOT TRUST PEOPLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. 2/2
Becker37
What the fuck ever... And if even so might be doable your first couple of rounds but after a lifetime of toxic people? You become toxic just
You don’t have to be that person. Therapy. Surround yourself with better people. I believe in you
I've tried therapy since I was 14. Where are these better people? Please, point them out to me. All I find are abusers.
Like them. Hard to be who you are when everyone's treating you like you're something else. It can make you go crazy.. it's made me go crazy.
Kribetokorin
My "brother" is like that, dude can't handle all the shit inside him so he needs to spill it out, lives in a fantasy world. /1
Everybody owes him money, all the neighbors hate me, but he's an addict and he believe that, reality is the opposite, he owes and 2/
Neighbours can't stand him. Mother died and he thinks he did a great job giving her some shitty last months, I took care of her for years 3/
And he managed to turn most of my family against me and "take care" of her, my older brother paid her medical insurance and this dude says4/
lavishlylurking
I needed this. I am the family asshole because I point out bad people, but one day their true colors will show.
snuffcarcass
“Stop making me uncomfortable with your stupid truth”
retsaoter
Lol thats not how family works. Family will cling to their bullshit until death.
stephCandyCreator
This is bad advice. It assumes that someone, somewhere, cares enough to ultimately recognise the truth and is also willing to admit it. /2
guntacular
I agree whole heartedly. Especially with big corporations. I've kept my mouth shut for 5 years and watched this happen time and time again.
2/ especially in a work environment there is no upside for a manager to admit they were wrong and make up for it by giving you a promotion /
Your job will never love you back
Everyone needs to be reminded of this once in a while.
Probably right after their annual review.
3/ instead its much easier to convince themselves that you’re just a passive loser that they don’t want around.
RhamnusiaThePaladin
When you apply this to family, it becomes really easy to figure out who is actually worth keeping in your life. Jobs need more consideration
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
This is true outside of work too. If the person lying about you is charismatic enough, others don't care about the truth
Daemencer
And you shouldn't care about people who don't care then :shrug: that's what I did. Cut them all off, don't regret a thing 3 years later
twothousandsouls
If you are not the one to point the bad behavior out...who will? A kernel of truth stays with followers long after cults of personality.
flamingflamingo
It's pretty good advice, really. All you have to do is perform well and not engage with the drama. Your actions will speak for themselves.
dasklaus
People whose view of you has been poisoned will not judge you on your actions. Prepare to get a new circle of friends and change jobs.
Those people are themselves deeply flawed, and their poor judgment will be their own comeuppance.
HsuDoNihm
If your job/circle of friends is that toxic, yes. The ones who don't care are a liability. Dump 'em. Let them hate each other.
Frank057
To do this, think: "if someone beleives the bad things without giving benefit of the doubt, I don't want to be that person's friend anyway."
EXACTLY
totallycooldude
This is fine when all they’re doing is telling your friends. But what about when they tell your kids, or your boss, a new partner?
Those are the exact people in your life who should be giving you the benefit of the doubt. If not, then open more dialogue with them.
Why should your boss give you any benefit of the doubt? What if your kids aren’t even old enough to? I’m just saying don’t take this as law.
To promote faith in you to do a good job. Then it's your job to train ur kids them to give it to others.
NomDeImguerre
Yeah, that's my mom alright.
Same. She is a toxic narcissist. Her (former) best friend reached out to me earlier this year to apologize to me because she finally 1/
2/saw my mother’s true colours. I felt soo vindicated
LenneSamunai
well we dont share the same mom but i feel you bro, somehow its more difficult if your own mom is the toxic person, right? keep it up =)
Artebudz
Got that fun going on now. Mine kicked me out in April and is now going around saying I am aggressive and abusive.
mine tried but i got out in time on my own. i'm hopefully starting some therapy in 2 weeks (been delayed already 3x :\ )
mind you, im living on my own for almost 8 years now and she is still in my head you know
I don't think that ever goes away. I've been out of the house in a different city for 16 years, no contact for 2, and it's still there.
Went out to get shopping and apply for a job. Got text while out telling me not to come back.
dude thats rough. i hope you found yourself some place and got that job you went out for. never give up hope is what i believe in
mooseablethenok
Works that way for faccists too...
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
I... I think that was the takeaway here.
Muunk
Troof!
UhOhChucksHere
You talking about the real fascists? The ones who suppress speech if it doesnt fit their narrative? Antifa?
Oh the irony...
toxcrusadr
I regret I have only one downvote to give.
Why? Please elaborate? Not being arguementative.
It's a bizarre statement to say "fascists aren't fascists, these other people are." Why would you feel a need to do that?
I was asking to whom they were referring to. And I thought my use of irony was obvious.
Yueling
How to deal with a sociopath 101. Also, get out of there for your own safety and mental wellbeing.
orangetomatoe
What an odd looking pen.
SwordsToTheSkyWeRideAtDawn
Doesn't this have a nicer meme?
SentientDumpsterfire
Nah, plant drugs in their car and call the cops when they get in it and drive off.
ThickTomato
This is something the person I just cut off would do
SentientDumpsterfire
idontcareifthesundontshine
A woman who I worked with once came into the staff room and saw me talking to a colleague, she asked the colleague to come and help her with
idontcareifthesundontshine
Something. When they were out of the room she said to my colleague 'you're welcome'she had been 'saving'my colleague from my company
idontcareifthesundontshine
My colleague told me over beers later and was like wtf?
Aelonwy
Watch out though. People tend to believe the first story they hear even when given evidence to the contrary they hold tight to their first
Aelonwy
conception/impression. It sucks but its difficult to turn things around when someone poisons your reputation with others.
stonekaiju
Ruudeboy
Also, don't be a punching bag for other people, you don't deserve that.
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
Can't tell if this is Facebook or...
keyonne
Do no harm, take no shit.
MomofukuJones
However, do acquire a punching bag so you can practice those sick moves you saw in that youtube video once
Ruudeboy
Great idea
EoghanReen
Who downvotes this comment? No actually you do deserve to be treated like shit.
rubberbuscuit2018
I am guessing people who have been the victims of vicious smear campaigns who took action against the people smearing them. Have an attorney
rubberbuscuit2018
Send a cease and desist. If you can prove slander (which is difficult) sue for slander. Their Homeowners policy may pay you big bucks.
CreepyPhlox
Trump’s motto lol!
RoboticRichardSimmons
Brother is going thru this with his ex. She abused him for years, he finally left, now she has convinced their kids he was the abuser. Smh
coronalmassejection
CiaranMcHale
This is like Microsoft support: both technically correct and useless advice. +1
scruffmonster88
Noooope unfortunately these people are so good at their craft they made you feel like the bad guy
andly9
Yeah in an ideal world, but reality is that no always people have good judgement
theGuyThatOneTime
Well that’s just not true. My faith people’s ability to look outside of what they’ve been told is pretty low. Expose the lies with truth .
margaretolson
I’d rather not have people in my life who are so easily willing to believe bad things about me, to be honest.
theGuyThatOneTime
Me neither, and that bit I can choose.... but I also have to work with people I can’t choose.
OnismPiglet
Not in my experience. It takes years and by then you've lost everyone you cared about.
margaretolson
Then they weren’t worth it. If people are so willing to believe bad things about you then they didn’t really love you to begin with. 1/
margaretolson
2/you’re better off without those people
OnismPiglet
I think my problem is that I try to befriend people nobody likes because as a kid I knew how that felt. And I get to discover-
OnismPiglet
first hand just why nobody will befriend them as they tear my friendship circles apart like a rabid piranha. Twice fooled right? -
OnismPiglet
Third time lucky! If I manage to make friends again.
Judhael
Simple blanket advice never works for all people in all situations.
DocTanner
In my experience, they often don't. I lost a LOT of friends and family to that misinformation.
DocTanner
2/2 Though, to be clear, it's not a reason to get free. I didn't lose anyone that was actually trustworthy.
StankyPankySammich
There’s a girl in our group that does this. She started dating one the friends which is how she joined. She said I drug girls drinks, told +
StankyPankySammich
+my friends gf that he’s cheating on her, which he isn’t, she just spreads rumors in texts and starts shit. Like, the fact I actually had ++
StankyPankySammich
++a Friend ask if I drug women’s drinks put me over the edge. That chick is dead to me. She does all that then acts really cool/nice You
Me1iss0
Classic Trump tactics.
HandoB4Javert
TarrkertheNewt
I forget the exact wording but, idiots will try to drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Don't let them.
FrijolesTheGreat
Solid truth, I’ve lived through it myself. Burned those bridges to the ground and never looked back.
schrubb
First time is hard, but in the retrospective you feel better and better. Never make the mistake to get back on them later for any reason!
mehgyverr
may the bridges you burn, light the way
FrijolesTheGreat
Amen.
WizeGuyThoughts
Does this also apply to overly negative and depressed people in your life? Are they toxic as well or is it not their fault?
schrubb
Try to be there for them, but if they don't try to work on the problems and you start feeling depressed and exhausted yourself, get away!
Bforcs
Does the relationship with them leave you drained, angry, dreading the next interaction? They might be toxic. If you love them anyway, nah
FrijolesTheGreat
This.
cathyarctic
Good on yu. This is my umpteenth time trying to stay away from the toxic wastage :(
Makeshiftshapeshift
Cut that shit out!! Clean break
FrijolesTheGreat
You can do it! It’s difficult at first but you can totally do it. That first step is always the hardest mission.
ReaperCDN
Victim here: This is stupid advice. Toxic people making you look bad will absolutely pin shit on you. Make it known they're targeting you.
ReaperCDN
Trusting in the truth to win out is trusting other people to listen to evidence. Think about that. We have flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers /1
ReaperCDN
and fucking Tiger King. DO NOT TRUST PEOPLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. 2/2
Becker37
What the fuck ever... And if even so might be doable your first couple of rounds but after a lifetime of toxic people? You become toxic just
margaretolson
You don’t have to be that person. Therapy. Surround yourself with better people. I believe in you
Becker37
I've tried therapy since I was 14. Where are these better people? Please, point them out to me. All I find are abusers.
Becker37
Like them. Hard to be who you are when everyone's treating you like you're something else. It can make you go crazy.. it's made me go crazy.
Kribetokorin
My "brother" is like that, dude can't handle all the shit inside him so he needs to spill it out, lives in a fantasy world. /1
Kribetokorin
Everybody owes him money, all the neighbors hate me, but he's an addict and he believe that, reality is the opposite, he owes and 2/
Kribetokorin
Neighbours can't stand him. Mother died and he thinks he did a great job giving her some shitty last months, I took care of her for years 3/
Kribetokorin
And he managed to turn most of my family against me and "take care" of her, my older brother paid her medical insurance and this dude says4/
lavishlylurking
I needed this. I am the family asshole because I point out bad people, but one day their true colors will show.
snuffcarcass
“Stop making me uncomfortable with your stupid truth”
retsaoter
Lol thats not how family works. Family will cling to their bullshit until death.
stephCandyCreator
This is bad advice. It assumes that someone, somewhere, cares enough to ultimately recognise the truth and is also willing to admit it. /2
guntacular
I agree whole heartedly. Especially with big corporations. I've kept my mouth shut for 5 years and watched this happen time and time again.
stephCandyCreator
2/ especially in a work environment there is no upside for a manager to admit they were wrong and make up for it by giving you a promotion /
snuffcarcass
Your job will never love you back
retsaoter
Everyone needs to be reminded of this once in a while.
snuffcarcass
Probably right after their annual review.
stephCandyCreator
3/ instead its much easier to convince themselves that you’re just a passive loser that they don’t want around.
RhamnusiaThePaladin
When you apply this to family, it becomes really easy to figure out who is actually worth keeping in your life. Jobs need more consideration
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
This is true outside of work too. If the person lying about you is charismatic enough, others don't care about the truth
Daemencer
And you shouldn't care about people who don't care then :shrug: that's what I did. Cut them all off, don't regret a thing 3 years later
twothousandsouls
If you are not the one to point the bad behavior out...who will? A kernel of truth stays with followers long after cults of personality.
flamingflamingo
It's pretty good advice, really. All you have to do is perform well and not engage with the drama. Your actions will speak for themselves.
dasklaus
People whose view of you has been poisoned will not judge you on your actions. Prepare to get a new circle of friends and change jobs.
flamingflamingo
Those people are themselves deeply flawed, and their poor judgment will be their own comeuppance.
HsuDoNihm
If your job/circle of friends is that toxic, yes. The ones who don't care are a liability. Dump 'em. Let them hate each other.
Frank057
To do this, think: "if someone beleives the bad things without giving benefit of the doubt, I don't want to be that person's friend anyway."
margaretolson
EXACTLY
totallycooldude
This is fine when all they’re doing is telling your friends. But what about when they tell your kids, or your boss, a new partner?
Frank057
Those are the exact people in your life who should be giving you the benefit of the doubt. If not, then open more dialogue with them.
totallycooldude
Why should your boss give you any benefit of the doubt? What if your kids aren’t even old enough to? I’m just saying don’t take this as law.
Frank057
To promote faith in you to do a good job. Then it's your job to train ur kids them to give it to others.
NomDeImguerre
Yeah, that's my mom alright.
margaretolson
Same. She is a toxic narcissist. Her (former) best friend reached out to me earlier this year to apologize to me because she finally 1/
margaretolson
2/saw my mother’s true colours. I felt soo vindicated
LenneSamunai
well we dont share the same mom but i feel you bro, somehow its more difficult if your own mom is the toxic person, right? keep it up =)
Artebudz
Got that fun going on now. Mine kicked me out in April and is now going around saying I am aggressive and abusive.
LenneSamunai
mine tried but i got out in time on my own. i'm hopefully starting some therapy in 2 weeks (been delayed already 3x :\ )
LenneSamunai
mind you, im living on my own for almost 8 years now and she is still in my head you know
NomDeImguerre
I don't think that ever goes away. I've been out of the house in a different city for 16 years, no contact for 2, and it's still there.
Artebudz
Went out to get shopping and apply for a job. Got text while out telling me not to come back.
LenneSamunai
dude thats rough. i hope you found yourself some place and got that job you went out for. never give up hope is what i believe in
mooseablethenok
Works that way for faccists too...
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
I... I think that was the takeaway here.
Muunk
Troof!
UhOhChucksHere
You talking about the real fascists? The ones who suppress speech if it doesnt fit their narrative? Antifa?
mooseablethenok
Oh the irony...
toxcrusadr
I regret I have only one downvote to give.
UhOhChucksHere
Why? Please elaborate? Not being arguementative.
toxcrusadr
It's a bizarre statement to say "fascists aren't fascists, these other people are." Why would you feel a need to do that?
UhOhChucksHere
I was asking to whom they were referring to. And I thought my use of irony was obvious.