Jul 14, 2018 11:26 PM
formerinfant
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Edit:I’m sad. Send me pics of your pets
LurkingTrout
I hope the puppy is living a happy life and not a prolonged misery
MaggieB12
Upvote for taking care of your old pupper!
CRDMnster
ugghughu...mah hart, mah soul
rufflePlayer
Sweet pooch love to him
ThatoneguywhoplayedUrgotinseason6
I thought I was going to see a scuba dog for a second. So how do they refill the tank?
Lemonsandwichs
ahhhhtomzilla
(this second cat is me stealing this)
Goodnewwseveryone
I’m the middle cat just watching all of this happen
AntiCircleJerker
As much as I'm against circle-jerking, if it means some more days for this good boi, I'm in the circle.
blackcatsarethecoolest
It’s hard to accept when our pets are old, our lab turned 12years old in human years. The day gets closer.....
Nekocatz13
MATTYBE87
MangyDogUK
D8
mratio
ZimGenzko
I know the owner said it was temporary but I don’t understand people letting their animals suffer after they get sick just to keep them.
SpanishLisp
My heart hurts and I’m tearing up. I love you too Argos. Tons and tons.
kalenmiyan
Hopefully he fares better than Odysseus' dog Argos. o7
Jimmyk459
This is when we need a 15/10
DpsGoblin
Look how old this dog is. Mussel is so white his whole face is almost white. Poor guy hooked up to an oxygen tank. No more running around.
spookyvirginia
Is that really the way for a dog to live? Look at his face, he's old, he's had a great life. How happy is he hooked up to an oxygen tank?
Sheprador
Potentially just a temporary state while he's hospitalized. Could be he wasn't oxygen dependent after medications were dose appropriately.
bushygalore
TheVoicesinMyHeadSingShowtunes
Such a sweet dog
Slayen2k
FYI, Argos' owner responded to this with an update that the O2 was temporary, he is on meds for his heart, and is otherwise fine and happy.
ChefMIKErowave
you're a god among men :D
jerkcore
This is important news. Upvote!
SomeCrazyNerd
YAY!!!
Zobaken
We need pics.
ThePoorWarrior
Princessbubblecum
Source??
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Plus 1 for that username.
The twitter thread the op's post is from. Here is a link to the owners twitter: https://twitter.com/simplykkuds
MsSparkles
this is our puppy. He hates when people get sad and gives hugs and kisses.
Boshanks
That might be a bit far
MeanestThingICouldThinkToSay
You can go fuck yourself.
I do frequently
LordChiefy
Ahhhhh. My little guy is named Argos too. Brb gonna go hug him.
Sparkfish
Awesome name for a dog. Odysseues' best friend.
Not many people understand the name without my explination +1
CreepyDouche
I’m going to fucking punch all of you. That’s how good this boy is.
IndianaJonesWasATerribleArchaeologist
Ah, humans. The things we do for the ones we love are just incredible sometimes.
ExploratoryDentalSurgery
One of life's cruelest fates is that our beloved dogs can not grow into old age with us. They tear your hear out after about 15 years.
Jester814
Hey I'm not the only one with a fuzzbutt named Argos!
leekykendall
Well my heart can’t handle these goddamn feels, you handsome red head....
sxybritchesheartsandypandy
Is that Brad Pitt or Survivor?
rusrsdude
It's Thor.
sombrerohorsewagon
Legends of the Mother Fucking Fall
janelady
God damn movie had me crying like a crazy person! Never again!!!
Indeed if you want to feel like hopeless shit for an evening, watch this... still just as heartbreaking all these years later :(
ishyluck
Brad Pitt, Legends of the Fall
I'm pretty much known for being a cunt and hating people. I love this dog and want to fund a program to research making him immortal.
[deleted]
Toss my salad.
I'm not feeling tongue in my butt yet.
TheYuHiOhOpeningHastheFattestBassRiffIntheWorld
QuartzPigeon
Shit he did it! He also made a time machine
EekumBokumEekumBokum
And let him suffer indefinitely!? You really are cunty...
GrimdogX
He's fine and off the tank, not suffering at all.
Marxthejefe
I'm all he other way. We should establish a kill all none loved animals and help all the none loved people. Adopt a homeless
HolyCringeLordBatman
I see you'r working on a program to help yourself..
Sure I am. Volunteering with the homeless ever weekend. 2 hours a week.
I mean, that's nice. I don't care, but that's nice.
Menton7
By the sound of your username, I’m guessing your cock is about 2 cm long and produces ZERO pleasure...even to you.
Sure one is about 2 cm tattoo for the other one you can ask your mother.
Monkeyfighter
The problem is there is no real vast program in place for organ transplants for doggos like there is for humans. Which is why we should
promote genetic modification techniques like CRISPR. It can give rise to the ability to clone organs for transplant in the future via IPSCs.
lizpterodactyl
Links please, for informed decision making
Well, the TLDR is that CRISPR is used to change parts of the genome of individual cells. It is used to correct genetic disorders.
By combining CRISPR and iPSCs, we can specifically (hopefully) clone organ cells and use this to "patch up" organs, or clone whole organs.
This allows for the ability to have a matching organ with no rejection issues and no donor needed.
iPSCs are a type of stem cell that is created from the patient's own tissue. This allows us to rewind the clock and culture the cells to
determine their genetic fate. This way, we can use CRISPR to find out how to correct errors and chart potential disorders.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4871596/ Long read, but worth it. It is potential golden goose of the medical world right now.
ManOnTheRun
VeryMoistTowelettes
He deserves a 15/10 tbh
More like a 100000000/10
Zadist
Does anyone else see something wrong with this? There's a point where putting your best friend down is better and the right choice.
robocopvsninja
agreed.
ThousandBellHide
You are not wrong, but the owner replied to the twitter thread saying the O2 tank is just a temporary measure, and he's getting better.
Dangeruff
‘I’m taking Kisses to Dr Liszzy’ American Dad S7E14
He seems happy. He's up and walking outside, so I think it's fine. If he was stuck in a bed I would agree with you.
xXxshadowsneak
There is indeed a point where he is suffering but hiding the pain very well. Had a doberman with hip displaysia in both hips and he was
always faceplanting into the ground, falling, and skidding into the cement when he tried to move very far. In constant pain but seemed like
the happiest dog in the world. Except he would yelp when he got up or layed down. I made the decision to end his pain. This dog is probably
hurting as well.
There's only two solid reasons to put an animal down: him/her being in constant pain or being unable to move. [1/2]
Other stuff is highly debatable as long as an animal is enjoying its life. [2/2]
finn423
It's all about quality of life. Dog looks happy to me, so it's fine. When the dog is no longer able to enjoy life, it's time.
Nope, if he was lying down in pain unable to do anything then sure but he's up and smiling here so I'm fine with it.
kislarkin131
There are plenty of humans with heart failure on O2. With oxygen, they and this dog are ok. No pain. Dog will let 'em know when it's time
hiimmat
It looks like the tubing is sutured to his cheek. We don't do that to humans.
pawhv3
Dying of heart disease is like drowning it's absolutely horrible
DownvoteAllYouWantImstillRight
But why dont we do that with humans as well? Pets ok. Humans? Let em suffer. Even is they want to die.. Let that sink in..
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Well, not everyone thinks one way or the other.
YarkerRd
You can choose medically assisted death for yourself in Canada!
Samerious
My thoughts exactly. I always have a hard time with this idea. I've never heard "Probably just to put him down. " About a human.
As someone that works in the ER...I have. :\ A couple months ago, the wife said "just let him die" and "stop bringing him back"
We coded 3 times in the previous 5 hours before we finally stopped.
MasterOfTheCats
Grandfather died, none of my family even let him go on hospice, even when he couldn’t eat or breath or think, we need to think differently
RedDevils42
Certain religious people want to limit the options according to their religious beliefs and so pressure their congress person to oppose it
dabrick31
It isn’t just religious people
True, but religion would be the only valid objection.....and even then it's not a legit....in my opinion
Otherwise save money and suffering and let them go....or at least have that option
Looks as though he's being hospitalized (IV catheter is visible). Hopefully this is a temporary state until the CHF is resolved.
derfox777
Reddit post said it was only temporary and he is doing better.
Amberroni
I was thinking the same thing..
KeezieWeezie
Sometimes I think people forget that their dogs are not in fact, human.
Oxygen tank was a temporary thing, if you look at the original twitter post his owner has posted pictures of him which show him healthy.
MightyMayhem
Is the dog happy & enjoying good quality of life? Does his owner have the funds & motivation? Then I see no problem.
50shadesofhay
The nasal cannula is sewn onto his face.
MistressLyda
That... I really hope they tried a sort of muzzle first.
And? You couldn't handle a couple temporary sutures if it helped you breathe?
Well considering the nasal cannula was made for humans. No, I couldn’t.
wotemer
yeah maybe the docs should say the same once your gran/mom gets old Just to show you how stupid that comment was
its not like he got a new heart or donor organ, he's literally supplied fucking air to not fucking suffocate.
bart147
I've watched too many family members die slow agonizing deaths to have an issue with voluntary euthanasia.
Bone cancer and dementia are terrible to watch progress.
You look at his face you can tell he's old as hell too, he's had a good, love-filled life, some people need to learn to let go.
I mean it was only a temporary situation and he's completely healthy now.
That would change things, but there's nothing about it in the post
It's in the original twitter post, gotta find the full story before you judge.
nothing linked in the tweet or the post, and it's simply not worth the time to dig into it at all
For all the ppl telling me im bad for thinking this you can Fuck off. Just because i can make a hard choice and you can't doesn't make me1/2
Wenhen90
Who told you that you were a bad person?
SaltyJake
It’s not a hard choice, you rushed to judgement, a bad one at that, without a back story. Having what is essentially an extra leash on /1
the dog for two weeks until he recovers to a normal lifestyle is not grounds for euthanizing the animal. But yeah we’re assholes... /end
jifner
They’ve made a choice. They’ve chosen to stay together and it’s got nothing to do with what u think should be done.
I think... there's not something wrong with the oxygen for the dog( based on reports it was temporary)Your second sentence is true though.
MeezerStandardTime
We don't know the circumstances for this dog, but in some cases, I would agree with you.
A bad person, i would never keep my dog hooked to a tank where he no longer gets to run around and be happy.
The fact that you guys would makes you the horrible person, dogs are always happy that's why we love them and have to make the hard choices
goldskeinedwings
Dammn girl ok we get it you’re like the all time best dog owner ever. Calm down.
TGWeaver
Personally my issue is more that you and I don't know enough about another perosn's dog's QoL or level of pain to call in "okay time to die"
You sound like you know for sure he's got an absolutely horrible life but you've only seen two pictures which are him walking around smiling
(Open mouth =/= smiling, it just looks that way to us.)
If you had just taken the time to look into ol Argos you would of found out the Oxygen was a temporary thing and he's now healthy.
I wouldn't call you a bad person. It's just a moral dillema. Am I saving him from pain or am I putting him down before his time ?
I have seen some persuasive arguments from vets that we tend to wait too long. Hope I don't have to decide again for many years.
I don't think you're at fault or bad. It's just a inner question that's asked. Has no clear cut solution. It's emotional and hard to answer.
LurkingTrout
I hope the puppy is living a happy life and not a prolonged misery
MaggieB12
Upvote for taking care of your old pupper!
CRDMnster
ugghughu...mah hart, mah soul
rufflePlayer
Sweet pooch love to him
ThatoneguywhoplayedUrgotinseason6
I thought I was going to see a scuba dog for a second. So how do they refill the tank?
Lemonsandwichs
ahhhhtomzilla
Goodnewwseveryone
I’m the middle cat just watching all of this happen
AntiCircleJerker
As much as I'm against circle-jerking, if it means some more days for this good boi, I'm in the circle.
blackcatsarethecoolest
It’s hard to accept when our pets are old, our lab turned 12years old in human years. The day gets closer.....
Nekocatz13
MATTYBE87
MangyDogUK
D8
mratio
ZimGenzko
I know the owner said it was temporary but I don’t understand people letting their animals suffer after they get sick just to keep them.
SpanishLisp
My heart hurts and I’m tearing up. I love you too Argos. Tons and tons.
kalenmiyan
Hopefully he fares better than Odysseus' dog Argos. o7
Jimmyk459
This is when we need a 15/10
DpsGoblin
Look how old this dog is. Mussel is so white his whole face is almost white. Poor guy hooked up to an oxygen tank. No more running around.
spookyvirginia
Is that really the way for a dog to live? Look at his face, he's old, he's had a great life. How happy is he hooked up to an oxygen tank?
Sheprador
Potentially just a temporary state while he's hospitalized. Could be he wasn't oxygen dependent after medications were dose appropriately.
bushygalore
TheVoicesinMyHeadSingShowtunes
Such a sweet dog
Slayen2k
FYI, Argos' owner responded to this with an update that the O2 was temporary, he is on meds for his heart, and is otherwise fine and happy.
ChefMIKErowave
you're a god among men :D
jerkcore
This is important news. Upvote!
SomeCrazyNerd
YAY!!!
Zobaken
We need pics.
ThePoorWarrior
Princessbubblecum
Source??
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Plus 1 for that username.
Slayen2k
The twitter thread the op's post is from. Here is a link to the owners twitter: https://twitter.com/simplykkuds
MsSparkles
Boshanks
That might be a bit far
MeanestThingICouldThinkToSay
You can go fuck yourself.
Boshanks
I do frequently
Lemonsandwichs
Boshanks
LordChiefy
Ahhhhh. My little guy is named Argos too. Brb gonna go hug him.
Sparkfish
Awesome name for a dog. Odysseues' best friend.
LordChiefy
Not many people understand the name without my explination +1
CreepyDouche
I’m going to fucking punch all of you. That’s how good this boy is.
IndianaJonesWasATerribleArchaeologist
Ah, humans. The things we do for the ones we love are just incredible sometimes.
ExploratoryDentalSurgery
One of life's cruelest fates is that our beloved dogs can not grow into old age with us. They tear your hear out after about 15 years.
Jester814
Hey I'm not the only one with a fuzzbutt named Argos!
leekykendall
Well my heart can’t handle these goddamn feels, you handsome red head....
sxybritchesheartsandypandy
Is that Brad Pitt or Survivor?
rusrsdude
It's Thor.
sombrerohorsewagon
Legends of the Mother Fucking Fall
janelady
God damn movie had me crying like a crazy person! Never again!!!
leekykendall
Indeed if you want to feel like hopeless shit for an evening, watch this... still just as heartbreaking all these years later :(
ishyluck
Brad Pitt, Legends of the Fall
MeanestThingICouldThinkToSay
I'm pretty much known for being a cunt and hating people. I love this dog and want to fund a program to research making him immortal.
[deleted]
[deleted]
MeanestThingICouldThinkToSay
Toss my salad.
[deleted]
[deleted]
MeanestThingICouldThinkToSay
I'm not feeling tongue in my butt yet.
[deleted]
[deleted]
TheYuHiOhOpeningHastheFattestBassRiffIntheWorld
QuartzPigeon
Shit he did it! He also made a time machine
EekumBokumEekumBokum
And let him suffer indefinitely!? You really are cunty...
GrimdogX
He's fine and off the tank, not suffering at all.
Marxthejefe
I'm all he other way. We should establish a kill all none loved animals and help all the none loved people. Adopt a homeless
HolyCringeLordBatman
I see you'r working on a program to help yourself..
Marxthejefe
Sure I am. Volunteering with the homeless ever weekend. 2 hours a week.
HolyCringeLordBatman
I mean, that's nice. I don't care, but that's nice.
Menton7
By the sound of your username, I’m guessing your cock is about 2 cm long and produces ZERO pleasure...even to you.
Marxthejefe
Sure one is about 2 cm tattoo for the other one you can ask your mother.
Monkeyfighter
The problem is there is no real vast program in place for organ transplants for doggos like there is for humans. Which is why we should
Monkeyfighter
promote genetic modification techniques like CRISPR. It can give rise to the ability to clone organs for transplant in the future via IPSCs.
lizpterodactyl
Links please, for informed decision making
Monkeyfighter
Well, the TLDR is that CRISPR is used to change parts of the genome of individual cells. It is used to correct genetic disorders.
Monkeyfighter
By combining CRISPR and iPSCs, we can specifically (hopefully) clone organ cells and use this to "patch up" organs, or clone whole organs.
Monkeyfighter
This allows for the ability to have a matching organ with no rejection issues and no donor needed.
Monkeyfighter
iPSCs are a type of stem cell that is created from the patient's own tissue. This allows us to rewind the clock and culture the cells to
Monkeyfighter
determine their genetic fate. This way, we can use CRISPR to find out how to correct errors and chart potential disorders.
Monkeyfighter
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4871596/ Long read, but worth it. It is potential golden goose of the medical world right now.
ManOnTheRun
VeryMoistTowelettes
He deserves a 15/10 tbh
formerinfant
More like a 100000000/10
Zadist
Does anyone else see something wrong with this? There's a point where putting your best friend down is better and the right choice.
robocopvsninja
agreed.
ThousandBellHide
You are not wrong, but the owner replied to the twitter thread saying the O2 tank is just a temporary measure, and he's getting better.
Dangeruff
‘I’m taking Kisses to Dr Liszzy’ American Dad S7E14
IndianaJonesWasATerribleArchaeologist
He seems happy. He's up and walking outside, so I think it's fine. If he was stuck in a bed I would agree with you.
xXxshadowsneak
There is indeed a point where he is suffering but hiding the pain very well. Had a doberman with hip displaysia in both hips and he was
xXxshadowsneak
always faceplanting into the ground, falling, and skidding into the cement when he tried to move very far. In constant pain but seemed like
xXxshadowsneak
the happiest dog in the world. Except he would yelp when he got up or layed down. I made the decision to end his pain. This dog is probably
xXxshadowsneak
hurting as well.
Zobaken
There's only two solid reasons to put an animal down: him/her being in constant pain or being unable to move. [1/2]
Zobaken
Other stuff is highly debatable as long as an animal is enjoying its life. [2/2]
finn423
It's all about quality of life. Dog looks happy to me, so it's fine. When the dog is no longer able to enjoy life, it's time.
GrimdogX
Nope, if he was lying down in pain unable to do anything then sure but he's up and smiling here so I'm fine with it.
kislarkin131
There are plenty of humans with heart failure on O2. With oxygen, they and this dog are ok. No pain. Dog will let 'em know when it's time
hiimmat
It looks like the tubing is sutured to his cheek. We don't do that to humans.
pawhv3
Dying of heart disease is like drowning it's absolutely horrible
DownvoteAllYouWantImstillRight
But why dont we do that with humans as well? Pets ok. Humans? Let em suffer. Even is they want to die.. Let that sink in..
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Well, not everyone thinks one way or the other.
YarkerRd
You can choose medically assisted death for yourself in Canada!
Samerious
My thoughts exactly. I always have a hard time with this idea. I've never heard "Probably just to put him down. " About a human.
Monkeyfighter
As someone that works in the ER...I have. :\ A couple months ago, the wife said "just let him die" and "stop bringing him back"
Monkeyfighter
We coded 3 times in the previous 5 hours before we finally stopped.
MasterOfTheCats
Grandfather died, none of my family even let him go on hospice, even when he couldn’t eat or breath or think, we need to think differently
RedDevils42
Certain religious people want to limit the options according to their religious beliefs and so pressure their congress person to oppose it
dabrick31
It isn’t just religious people
RedDevils42
True, but religion would be the only valid objection.....and even then it's not a legit....in my opinion
RedDevils42
Otherwise save money and suffering and let them go....or at least have that option
Sheprador
Looks as though he's being hospitalized (IV catheter is visible). Hopefully this is a temporary state until the CHF is resolved.
derfox777
Reddit post said it was only temporary and he is doing better.
Amberroni
I was thinking the same thing..
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
KeezieWeezie
Sometimes I think people forget that their dogs are not in fact, human.
GrimdogX
Oxygen tank was a temporary thing, if you look at the original twitter post his owner has posted pictures of him which show him healthy.
MightyMayhem
Is the dog happy & enjoying good quality of life? Does his owner have the funds & motivation? Then I see no problem.
50shadesofhay
The nasal cannula is sewn onto his face.
MistressLyda
That... I really hope they tried a sort of muzzle first.
Sheprador
And? You couldn't handle a couple temporary sutures if it helped you breathe?
50shadesofhay
Well considering the nasal cannula was made for humans. No, I couldn’t.
wotemer
yeah maybe the docs should say the same once your gran/mom gets old Just to show you how stupid that comment was
wotemer
its not like he got a new heart or donor organ, he's literally supplied fucking air to not fucking suffocate.
bart147
I've watched too many family members die slow agonizing deaths to have an issue with voluntary euthanasia.
bart147
Bone cancer and dementia are terrible to watch progress.
spookyvirginia
You look at his face you can tell he's old as hell too, he's had a good, love-filled life, some people need to learn to let go.
GrimdogX
I mean it was only a temporary situation and he's completely healthy now.
spookyvirginia
That would change things, but there's nothing about it in the post
GrimdogX
It's in the original twitter post, gotta find the full story before you judge.
spookyvirginia
nothing linked in the tweet or the post, and it's simply not worth the time to dig into it at all
Zadist
For all the ppl telling me im bad for thinking this you can Fuck off. Just because i can make a hard choice and you can't doesn't make me1/2
Wenhen90
Who told you that you were a bad person?
SaltyJake
It’s not a hard choice, you rushed to judgement, a bad one at that, without a back story. Having what is essentially an extra leash on /1
SaltyJake
the dog for two weeks until he recovers to a normal lifestyle is not grounds for euthanizing the animal. But yeah we’re assholes... /end
jifner
They’ve made a choice. They’ve chosen to stay together and it’s got nothing to do with what u think should be done.
IndianaJonesWasATerribleArchaeologist
I think... there's not something wrong with the oxygen for the dog( based on reports it was temporary)Your second sentence is true though.
MeezerStandardTime
We don't know the circumstances for this dog, but in some cases, I would agree with you.
Zadist
A bad person, i would never keep my dog hooked to a tank where he no longer gets to run around and be happy.
Zadist
The fact that you guys would makes you the horrible person, dogs are always happy that's why we love them and have to make the hard choices
goldskeinedwings
Dammn girl ok we get it you’re like the all time best dog owner ever. Calm down.
TGWeaver
Personally my issue is more that you and I don't know enough about another perosn's dog's QoL or level of pain to call in "okay time to die"
GrimdogX
You sound like you know for sure he's got an absolutely horrible life but you've only seen two pictures which are him walking around smiling
MeezerStandardTime
(Open mouth =/= smiling, it just looks that way to us.)
GrimdogX
If you had just taken the time to look into ol Argos you would of found out the Oxygen was a temporary thing and he's now healthy.
Samerious
I wouldn't call you a bad person. It's just a moral dillema. Am I saving him from pain or am I putting him down before his time ?
MeezerStandardTime
I have seen some persuasive arguments from vets that we tend to wait too long. Hope I don't have to decide again for many years.
Samerious
I don't think you're at fault or bad. It's just a inner question that's asked. Has no clear cut solution. It's emotional and hard to answer.