Lanhdanan
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whotookbearyawesome
Looks like we’re clearly out front. USA #1
seannikiforuk
Race to the bottom.
cyberimg
(hushed tone) The finishing line is toward the right.
TheMerchant41
Corporations
RandomFinnishPerson
We get 30 days but a week counts as 6 so 5 weeks. 4 in the "summer", 1 in the "winter".
Navraeth
Plus added 100 hrs of 'Pekkanen'
RandomFinnishPerson
It is in use for some of the collective labor agreements but not for all. If you have 40 weekly hrs or more you get that. I have 37,5. :(
Navraeth
Oh, thanks for letting me know. I knew it had something to do with weekly hrs but thought it would be for all. :(
Imalwaysready
One interesting anecdotal observation I've made in working across continents now, is that whenever an American talks about getting hired, >
Imalwaysready
they brag about how they negotiated like $5,000 over the starting salary offer and whenever a European talks about getting hired, they brag>
Imalwaysready
about negotiating their 20 days paid time off starting offer up to 22 or 23 days. I've had this conversation a dozen times at least.
Undaftiness
Unions take care of pretty much everyone having a decent salary. Next on the list is vacation time.
walkingdad1960
NA trick is not hire full time, keep them working on call and you never have to pay them for any time off. It's called the "new economy"
TrashCountry
America is a trash country.
stonebrood
fucking canada not even one week off per season
Brownie19
2 weeks vacation is the minimum by law. Where I work, it's 2 weeks for 2 years, 3 for next 8, 4 for next 10 and then 5 weeks with 20 yr exp
historycat
Shrodinger's economy. Simultaneously the most wealthy economy & also can't afford anything, until workers for ask for something.
HedonistBeard
It's easy to be a wealthy economy when you don't need to pay people.
feren
We are truly a land of contradictions here in the states.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
UD propaganda has done an excellent job of convincing us that asking for even the bare minimum is weakness
VeinyFleshTrumpet
Yeah we uhh… we don’t really value mental stability here.
leperoutcastunclean
The problem is that "the economy" isn't "the majority of the population".
cheesedogs
The US military, most well funded organization ever, wouldnt pay for a damn stamp without commander auth
pseudopseudonym
Requiring people to file paperwork to spend money is an entirely different issue from not wanting to spend money at all.
cheesedogs
Still waiting on that stamp...
BillHubbard
If you'd correct for missing worker rights.it wouldn't be a wealthy economy. Also, if you'd correct for debt it's not that great.
Calise425
Until workers band together and demand things I feel like. Don't get much for asking
buttcreambandit
It’s the most wealthy economy. It’s just all in the hands of about 10% of the country, and most of that is in the hands of 1%
thotheger
Don't use the duality of quantum mechanics to explain economic hypocrisy.
historycat
Feralkyn
Let's be fair, even Schroedinger meant it as an example of why an idea *didn't* work. It's used wrong 99% of the time anyway.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Nah, it's really two economies in a trench coat. If you're rich you're on top being carried and able to enjoy everything. If you're not 1/
ImHereToGetDownvotes
rich, you're stuck in the dark, carrying someone else and dealing with their stench all day. 2/2
BurlJohnson
Please
tyrunn
I honestly don't know how America is, I mean what the fuck is wrong with you lot
Lostarchitorture
Wife's cousin came to US to visit from Germany. Envy hit hard seeing how much vacation time he had to stay and visit everyone while here
Mrboffo13
The Canada placement is wrong. It depends on which province you live in and even then isn't regulated by government. The employers do that
JCrashB
Capitalism
tandy94
Wow. In South Africa, the minimum is 15 days
AndrewCanadian
Canadian. 30 days here...but that's more to do with the company and less to do with the government.
guigner
The Irish flag is backwards
GalwayGirlYo
Maybe it’s the Ivory Coast ???
guigner
Indeed. But their paid leave entitlements are even higher! So I’m assuming it’s Ireland, alongside other European counties (EUWTD)
ViolentlyJaded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country It's Ivory Coast, which also had 20 paid days off a year, but some
ViolentlyJaded
Though in context, I agree the maker of the info graph only showed Europe and Asia. Most likely an error.
VaarallinenJuhannus
A Finn here: starting maternity leave now, back to work in dec 2022 but will use this years’ accumulating vac times so return in feb ’23.
VaarallinenJuhannus
Pay is about 60% or a min of 600€/m -25%tax so it is not the same 4 everyone. I worked overtime when expecting 1st kid so now I get more
bitterbirdonabike
25 lovely days, and after you turn 40, you get another 5 days (Sweden). And don't forget you get paid when you are sick, or care for a child
Gleipner
I work an NCO in SAF, and I recently started getting 32 days/year, after turning 30.
Mafalin
Yeah, this is potentially a big difference, we never have to use our vacation when we're sick.
soyouwanttobeapirate
same here in Austria - but the additional week comes in the year you reach the 26th accountable workyear
cnphilli
does that 25 days include holidays?
20cmFlaccid
No
cnphilli
then you get about 8 more days off than me. And I just started a new job, so it's not that bad.
tag7
Looks like the US is dragging Canada down. Again.
Lanhdanan
As is tradition.
ILikeChocolateAndRaspberries
French here : I have 25 days + 11 more since i'm working 37,5h/w instead of 35h/w
TheRidg
any day's a holiday in France when you choose to strike or riot :-p
servingmytimeinusersub
In the US, to be eligible for benefits with most companies, you start by working 40+ a week
ILikeChocolateAndRaspberries
Companies should offer you some benefits first for them to be eligible to have you work for them ;)
servingmytimeinusersub
We got out of the habit of using unions for the most part. It's picking up steam again.
Eleshar24
You also have paid family event leaves, sick child leave, on demand sick leave, paternity leave, maternity leave and parental leave.
Eleshar24
I forgot also about public holidays, of course:) It is difficult to remember all these things we Europeans take for totally granted.
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Stop bragging lol
ILikeChocolateAndRaspberries
To add some perspective, i'm "only" paid 24k a year (which is enough to live confortably here) ;)
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Stop it!
ILikeChocolateAndRaspberries
Sorry, i thought it would help a little since the median salary in the US was $35,977/year in 2019 ^^'
Delabouilliederizquisourit
Confortably? Tu vis pas dans une grande ville j'imagine ?
ILikeChocolateAndRaspberries
Je suis pas loin de Lorient donc non, effectivement ;)
Peter1267
Somewhat comparable for me in Belgium: 23d + 6d since I work 38h instead of 37h/w. Plus 10 (also paid) Public Holidays.
Peter1267
And there are people, usually working at government agencies, who have significantly more than that.
Boblemoju
same company, different overtime policy also. French have very strict no overtime policy and are getting paid. in Canada, we don't get 1/2
Boblemoju
paid OT and we don't have a policy for it. company take everything they can and thats just it
mday8
Is a 40h workweek not the norm in France? Didn't know...
Eleshar24
35h is the fulltime norm. But it doesn't work that well, so many business have agreements in place so you work more & get days off instead.
Eleshar24
E.g. our French colleagues work 38h per week and get additional 15 days of instead.
Lehoop
Nope, 35 hours / week for employees, daily rates for executives.
Nuttsy
Isn't it also an artifact of the French not counting lunchtime into the hours, unlike at least a few others?
Nuttsy
*Because over here, a bit to the east, 2,5 of my weekly 40 is, at least on paper, lunchtime. And another half hour if it's overtime.
Lehoop
Lunchtime isn't part of the hours, absolutely. But I have to admit that we like taking our time ;]
Theslippyman
35h !
ILikeChocolateAndRaspberries
https://businessculture.org/western-europe/business-culture-in-france/work-life-balance-in-france/ ;)
stlouiscardinalsfan7
We’re #1! At being shitty and not giving a crap about our citizens.
smugg77
Can someone explain what is so great about the US i have never understood it
Mithi
The PRdepartment.
BootsDusty
onecrazycanuk365
You can see all of it. There’s always a way.
superbro2211
Depends on what country but the message is that you have to be a cog in society, there’s no room to just explore and manage for yourself
YaaDude
Become a park ranger!
TyrannusEquus
Good luck. I was contracted to work with them and that still did not get me any closer. I also have a degree in paleo and years of tour exp.
JustinSearchOfEnlightenment
I can't believe, with all those guns, the American people haven't risen up against the tyrants that rule you?? Mind boggling.
riddmkidd
See the frog in the pot of water analogy as to why not.
AravindThiagarajan
India - National and State holidays around 28. Paid sick leave upto 7 days without medical certificate. Medical certificate required for
AravindThiagarajan
More than Han seven days. Privilege leave or earned leave, where you can encash the days. Paid maternity leave for atleast 3 months. Paid
AravindThiagarajan
Maternity leave for atleast a month in case of abortion or miscarriage. Here is the highlight. You get Leave Travel Allowance - for going
AravindThiagarajan
On vacation with family. Medical reimbursement in some organisations - for items not covered through medical insurance.
victalany
SoloOnTheRox
I like the message but god that writing…
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
Say it out loud in a frustrated, sad voice. It’s really quite evocative.
FarenDin
That's kinda like part of the joke tho. It's like written in the way certain people would like, talk. And also purposefully a bit stupid.
StarmineRendezvous
And generally speaking, you will never be able to afford traveling to see any of them if you work in the US.
ArtOfKarolMichalec
I doubt ppl from Bangladesh or Laos can afford them either. Its all relative
AawesomeAardvaark
Nah, just depends where and how you live. I make under median income and have traveled to see all of those things. Costs like $1500 to take
AawesomeAardvaark
a week in another country. Many ppl spend more than that every year on booze, coffee, or expensive restaurants.
Othernate
So travel or booze, coffee and the occasional nice dinner? Guess I'm never traveling...
AawesomeAardvaark
I chose no restaurants/bars/coffeeshops. Drinking and eating at home opened up so many possibilities, highly recommended. Travel is better
rumandbass
The trick is to travel before you have kids, educational and healthcare debt.
AawesomeAardvaark
That definitely helps. I had ed debt when I started traveling, but still saved enough for a trip every year. It's possible but not easy.
linkolas
The trick is to not have kids ever
Tinywiener
In Germany, you have at least 24 paid vacation days.
Valkyyria
I would say 28+ is a normal number in Germany, even though 20 is minimum. And not to forget our lovely holidays especially in bavaria etc.
Kingoftheblind
30 is still like the unofficial norm, never had a job with less vacation days.
voidmain
The convention though is 30… I know no one that has less than that.. also, there is 13 bank holidays (in Bavaria at least)
Thanatos28
For 6 workdays a week. Its 20 days if you "only" work 5 days a week.
Tinywiener
You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Eleshar24
JFK, this is what some old collective agreements in France do as well. Why the fuck do you keep that?
withoutstyle
For an even more sickening statistic show the Parental leave figures by country and see how poorly the USA ranks.
manilastan
Example from Estonia - 1.5 years paid leave (up to 2x avg salary) and company has to keep you your job for 3y (same or similar position)
Imalwaysready
I work at a place that has European offices and the starting packages they get, compared to us in the U.S. are insane. And when they take >
Etrigan77
The packages are not insane compared to the US. The US is insane compared to them. Good God you only get one life man.
Eleshar24
This.
Imalwaysready
vacation, they TAKE vacation. They're like "I'm out. See you in 3 weeks. I won't be checking a single e-mail while I'm gone. Bye." Most of >
Imalwaysready
American colleagues wouldn't think of asking for more than 1 week off at a time, & even then, they'll answer e-mails at night half the time.
Manhoarder
That's insane. If I'm on my vacation, I definitely would not answer any calls or emails during it if it's work related.
Jwl122
Here in Denmark, You can get 3 weeks off in the summer. And by law, a minimum of 2 consecutive weeks
SoberAndBored
The UK is 28, not 20, but there are 8 national holidays (known as Bank Holidays) which CAN be included in that 28. Personally I get 28 plus
Etrigan77
Yep. I was going to add this…. Nice to be winning at something finally.
nitroghost
I was going to write this if someone hasn't already
SoberAndBored
the 8 bank holidays
DKB13
Extra one this year, good old queeny
SoberAndBored
True! I'd forgotten about that, 2nd June. First thing she's ever done for me. When she pops her clogs I believe we'll all get the day of the
SoberAndBored
funeral and the day of the coronation off.
nitroghost
there's been other bank holidays because of the queen so not the ONLY thing she's done for you ?
Eleshar24
UK is 20. Public holidays are not counted into leave entitlement in other European countries. The Nordics have 25 + public holidays. 1/2
Eleshar24
France has 25 + public holidays + RTT days. This would get them anywhere between 34 to 50. 2/2
DKB13
It's 28 days with or without public holidays in the UK.
Eleshar24
Again. If you count PHs in, UK gets to 28, sure, but other countries will move easily to around 35.
DKB13
It's also rare to have bank holidays included in ones annual entitlement
DKB13
If you're in role where you have to work bank holidays, you're still entitled to 28 days.
Eleshar24
And so? Again, this is a no brainer in any other European country.
butwhyyyyy47
China didn’t even make the list. Must be in negative days off.
cepacolusmaximus
https://ins-globalconsulting.com/china-labor-law-guide/holidays-leave-days-system-china-employment-law/
cepacolusmaximus
US workers get the same level of support as Chinese workers with < 1 year of experience.
Ozymandiazwasright
Where does Chin-a land?
DuckPlanetKing
Better than the US.
cnphilli
not really
Auxilium
You mean West Taiwan?
Skyff
Googled: 1 to 10 years employment get five days; 10 to 20 years employment earns 10 days off; and those which more than 20 years get 15 days
Auxilium
They do also have long annual holidays as I recall
Skyff
From the link I posted, 11 mandated paid public holidays, which includes two semi-annual one week holidays, and which is 11 more than the US
Skyff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country
ajchafe
Canadian here and I don't believe most people have ten PAID sick days. Federal/Provincial employees do. Min wage workers don't.
windtunnelscienceguy
Ya canada is NOT great for leave unless you work for the various governments (prov and fed)
junkgoof
We have them but where I work there is a lot of pressure not to take them and to "make up the time." Illegal, I think...
Brownie19
We have 10 paid sick days and everyone with more than 10 years experience has 4 weeks of vacation.
ajchafe
My specific nonprofit job has it, but I know for a fact that other industries have "7 Unpaid days" because the minister told me. Am in NL.
stonebrood
might be province based? working in Ontario I haven't had a job with fewer than 10 days
ajchafe
Yeah. I am here in Newfoundland and Labrador. I get ten at my job but know that part time/min-wage don't.
Wallerwilly
QC here, we got 3 minimum by law. Many companies will offer 5+ in various forms. Most common practice is 3 paid + 2(+) floating paid days.
AeonQuasars
I can't belive how you even manage to live in the US. No holidays would drive me crazy. I feel I work too much here in Norway.
cnphilli
I've never heard of someone with a full time job and no paid time off. It just isn't required.
SteveTheEgg
My first job had no paid time off despite being FT. My second was salary but also didn't have designed days off. 3rd job no PTO, current /
SteveTheEgg
/job I get PAL time of about 4.5 hours a pay period (2wks), but I'm on lvl 2 as I've been there 4yrs. So about 1 day a month.
cnphilli
and you really can't get a better job?
AeonQuasars
Someone have to do those jobs. That they even exists are almost a human rights violation. (almost)
BklynPunisher
There are plenty of jobs (union) that offer payed time off.
Kiwipocalypse
There are some good companies out there. I went from a job with 2 weeks unpaid maternity to one with 16 weeks paid parental leave.
ImANurse
Work 3 days a week. 7 weeks off. Off all but 2 holiday. Double time on holidays
ThePsychPineapple
As an EMT, we got 1 hour paid time off for every 8 hours we worked… after 90 days of probation… but, WE ARE NUMBER 1!!!
echonite
Not required =/= doesn't get any.
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
UK here, thanks to holidays and Flexi I haven't worked more than a 4 day week in 4 months and still work too hard.
KnightWhoSaidNi
Norway is pretty sweet. Regards, Danmark
tarask
As a Canadian, I agree. Sometime you just need to take a day or two to relax and take care of yourself.
iCurse
I am the opposite, I have 35 days per year and I can barely manage to use 10 or so
Valharroth
We're kind of spoiled rotten in Norway though, not gonna lie.
Imalwaysready
Well, what's not in the image is that most all salaried jobs get paid time off in the U.S., it just isn't required by law. Hourly workers >
Imalwaysready
on the other hand, they rarely get paid time off, unfortunately. Many places start at 10 days off here, then scale up with seniority.
AeonQuasars
Yeah that's a valid point. Just like young ones with kids don't need time off. They are young after all.
crakerjac
I have something called "unlimited vacation"... Take as much time off as you want as long as you don't fall behind on work. The caveat is 1/
crakerjac
For every week I work, I have a week and a half's worth of crap piled up on my desk... 2/2
CharlesMontgomeryBurns
It's left up to the company whether you get vacation, the standard is two weeks but if you have a blue collar job you're usually up a 1/
CharlesMontgomeryBurns
Certain creek. I remember working in retail years ago, and my store manager begged the higher ups for one week of vacation, they told her 2/
CharlesMontgomeryBurns
No, so she told them to go to hell. This is one of the many reasons I left that country. 3/3
Hyero
We get federal holidays off a few times a year. Depending on employer you may get more.
Relicanth
My US-based employer has 9 official holidays and starts you with 3 weeks vacation and 3 floating holidays, so 18 days. Fairly good IMO.
dfhowes
3 weeks!? I had to work for 10 years before I could get 3 weeks.
Vrayl
I work for T-Mobile in the US and get 6 weeks off a year now. Which is amazing. I don't know of any other places that give that much though
BklynPunisher
But what’s the pay like??
phoenix071
Not required but most full time workers get time off, amounts vary depending on the company and amount of time spent working for them
Daarst
I get 5 days pto in a job that I needed a degree for. I'm so burned out and wish for death daily.
Shargan8
Even at Google in Palo Alto do you get fuck all holidays in the first year and some degree of improvement after a few years
Kronzor
Well most people with decent jobs get paid holidays. All these problems you hear about the US only effect like 60% of the people.
Undaftiness
Living in a place where that's downplayed into "Only". I feel bad for you America.
phoenix071
woosh
feintx
Some states have a minimum amount of time off and most companies give more. I get 23 elective days and 10 set holidays
Etherealvalentine
You can believe it by realizing that we don't choose to manage, we have to. We're all indentured servants.
giho970205
I fled the country
butwhyyyyy47
I get 23 days off a year and I’m in the us
cnphilli
lol downvoted for stating facts. gotta love imgur
AnthropomorphicMilkshake
„I haven’t had COVID, which means it‘s not a problem“
Punkereaux
We slowly go insane…. I’m 37 and I can’t wait to retire or just die
OuchMouse
I’m 35 and I’m tired. I do have some paid hours but because of health issues I usually have to spend them on stuff like doctor appointments
Yenaldooshi
33, been there for a while now
YouHaveNoodsAndIHaveAnInbox
It was about 24-25 that I first realised I was expected to just…do that…. until I die.
dustmywets
McLovinMuffin
25, going on 26. I'm right there with you, boy do I have a long way to go
BklynPunisher
Laughs in 50 y/o Yeah if you’re feeling that way already, the next 25 years are gonna suck.
OrganoMetallic2016
Can’t afford to retire, so death is the only option. Even then I would feel bad passing on my debt to next of kin
Rkhbusa
I’m 33 going on 43
katidragon
Usually, just die, because who can afford to retire?
mikecaa
This graph is misleading to project a political agenda. I'm sure some employers give zero. My company gives 20 days.
CleverlyReferencedThing
43% of leisure and hospitality workers receive pto, at minimum that's 4 mil people if we're just talking about full service restaurants 1/2
CleverlyReferencedThing
Most industries have about 80% that give pto with some up to 90%, and that's just for full-time, in many cases people have to work 2/3
CleverlyReferencedThing
Multiple part time jobs and don't get any due to only full-time getting pto
usernameusedinlessplatforms2
So you dont think all US workers should get that 20 days? And how is itmisleading? When u are sure 0 is correct in your 2nd sentence.
Choe8
How is it missleading if it clearly says minimum? Having zero wouldnt be an option in other countries.
vorodar
Minimum of zero. You have more than the minimum. Congrats. Doesn't make the graph not correct. Unless you can show that minimum is not zero.
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MetalPsychologist
I have 11 or 12 holidays and 35 days of PTO, which can roll over (up to 150%).
Mithi
I have 30 vacation days and 0 PTO, because we don't have that crappy concept in Germany. When I'm sick I'm sick.
ijustwonamathdebate
For clarification: he says, when he's sick, he is sick at home, not at work. Additional payed time of.
EmptySoul
I get 24 vacation days, paid leave on bank holidays. A week off for both Christmas and easter. 28 days sick a year 1/2
EmptySoul
Before it gets looked into. It's nice to live in a country thats not America is it not. Altho I am afraid we (UK) are trying to copy USA 2/2
bikergeek6249
Not only that some employers will give you the hairy eyeball for taking the vacation time you actually are offered as a benefit of your job.
lemmingsoup
Vacation is not a benefit. It’s mandatory down time. Even machines get it.
junkgoof
In civilized countries they send you notes telling you you have to take your vacation if you have accumulated more than some arbitrary limit
TywinStannister
Hey, that's me! I have to use at least 2 more days. I will take my final vacation week as cold hard cash, but I need to use at least 4 weeks
Semphir
And cant save too much either. Need to take a minimum amount of days each year.
junkgoof
Socialized health care. Heart attacks don't help anyone. Take time off.
CurrentlyNaked
Can confirn. I had 14 days of vacation but had to use before Mar '22 from '21. I had 2 weeks for xmas and took my 14 days. Just returned
Imalwaysready
^THIS. Most salaried positions in the U.S. get the same benefits as Europe does (10-15 paid vacation days is the norm). Hourly workers get >
mebe21
10-15 paid vacation days is still low by European standards. See the image you're commenting on.
Imalwaysready
none, usually. But the U.S. work culture by-and-large tends to frown on actually taking those days off, or at least in taking more than one>
Imalwaysready
week's worth (5 days) at a time. I've worked places where you could get 2 weeks off, but the bosses would remember unless it was a very >
Imalwaysready
specific situation (honeymoons were exempt, it seemed, and taking 2 weeks at Christmas/New Year's was OK since work was generally slow and >
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Most employers do offer at least some. Mine is commensurate with tears of employment and bonus days. I now have 4 weeks off plus 2 adtl week
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Domino's "generously" offers 24 hours of paid sick time per year.
Imalwaysready
Most *FULL TIME, salaried employers. Hourly workers mostly get squat for paid time off.
BklynPunisher
Not true. I get paid hourly and we have 10 sick days, 2 clinic days plus a personal day on top of 5 weeks vacation.
Imalwaysready
That's great. Yet your anecdote is still not indicative of the general trend in the U.S. Go ask that McDonald's worker how much they get.
Imalwaysready
Right now nearly 30M working Americans--about 1/5 the workforce and mostly hourly--don't get any paid time off OR guaranteed paid holidays.
TankTrain
I get 5 weeks a year, (shift workers get an extra week here,) 10 days sick leave, and 2 weeks of long service leave per year. Sorry mate.
TankTrain
Oh, and the 5 weeks annual leave gets a 17% leave loading. So I make more money on holidays than if I was at work.
TankTrain
I currently have over 900 hours of long service just sitting there in case I need it. Plus universal healthcare. It's good to be Australian.
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Haha! *years of employment. But I’m leaving it because it’s also that.
Skyff
Tears of employment is so on the nose
AeonQuasars
Yeah but if you quit you lose all that you have worked toward and if you are in a toxic environment it does not help to stay >
AeonQuasars
And if you leave you then lose all you have worked toward and have to start from scratch. Absolute abysmal.
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Pretty. Fucking. Much.
6313326
(NOT DEFENDING THE US'S LEAVE POLICY AT ALL) Depending on your job/career, a company might offer a decent amount of leave (by US standards)¹
Kronzor
You don't have to start from scratch. In fact starting a new job is the best time to negotiate a new package that meets your needs.
Pfefi
In Austria we also get paid 14x a year - with 13th salary being vacation money in July and 14th Christmas money in November
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Huh, 14? Over here a bit North of you we get a 13th month end of December, and usually also some kind of bonus, later on.
AlmightyThor117
That’s interesting, a salary in the US is generally considered on yearly intervals, I get paid twice a month, but no extra bonuses
MissPepperfingers
Same for Belgium, vakantiegeld en 13de maand
helmutk00hl
Switzerland, same
jdoeimgur
One of the reasons why I moved to Austria ?
ronpopeil
In US we are paid 26x a year but it's just based on 40hr work weeks. We get paid twice a month for 80 hours.
ElroydIsGone
Yeah, but honestly, I think compared to e.g. Germany, it's just the same yearly salary spread differently across the year.
konomimaster
Same in denmark - by law it's 1% of your anual wage - often it's even higher. I get 5,2% of my anual wage this, way.
itsallaboutthecones
Are those two payments extra or is your salary simply split into fourteen payments?
QuamvisSintSubAqua
Yes. The two are extra and in the same gross height as the 12, but they are taxed less(!), but all in all it's just your salary.
helmutk00hl
Usual is double salary 1st of december and june
cnphilli
doesn't really make a difference. If you're getting it no matter what it's part of your salary.
itsallaboutthecones
So in theory, yes. However, if it's treated as a bonus, at least in the US, it's taxed at a higher rate. Also, bonuses are often unreliable.
greentights
Misconception. Usually companies withhold more but overall taxes depend on overall income rather than bonus vs salary.
cnphilli
you misunderstood me. all i'm saying is, the pay is pre-set, whether it's "extra" or not. also, bonus' are not taxed differently in u.s.
JustAnotherPOG
No it isn't. It is withheld at a 22% rate (which is higher than many people's marginal rate), but it counts as income and is (1/2)
JustAnotherPOG
reconciled when you file taxes. (2/2)
Sjama
Monthly salary is generally about equal or slightly less than in Germany. We get the 13th and 14th salary in addition, so that total salary>
idontmindanythingcouldstandhere
In my experience yearly salaries are pretty much the same in Ger and Aut. So it is just split in 14 instead of 12. But 1/2
idontmindanythingcouldstandhere
... you pay less income tax on those extra two, which leaves you with a little more money after tax. 2/2
Sjama
Thx for the info. I think that also depends on where in Germany. Salaries in Munich are higher than in Berlin for example
Sjama
is higher than in Germany. Price of housing is comparable to Germany, but products are more expensive. I live in Salzburg, which is at the>
OttoNormalo
Schönen Gruß aus Bürmoos! :)
Sjama
border to Germany, so I shop there 1-2 times a month. People in Vienna go shopping to Bratislava in Slovakia.
QuamvisSintSubAqua
Not during the pandemic.