I mean, is he? You’d think he understands that “labels” change how the world sees you, and in some cases it’s got a greater impact than any action you could do.
This guy looks way too young to be doing boomer affirmations. Cool bro, you don’t give a fuck about someone’s labels - but the Supreme Court sure does, and a whole lot of good people are getting fucked over on a systemic level.
I think something went over your head. He said. HE doesn’t care about your labeled as long as you’re a good person. He didn’t say THE SYSTEM doesn’t care about your labels. Because the system does and the system wants you to be a bad person. It was designed to be selfish and dividing.
#1 is the same argument that the "All Lives Matter" people were using a few years ago, to minimize the truth that some people really do have a harder life because of their skin colour.
I'll stop caring about labels when conservatives quit complaining about representation because we didn't pretend a group doesn't exist. having a gay couple on Sesame Street matters so that the children of gay couples can see themselves. "why does it matter?" ~ asked the person who could see their family in virtually every prrogram.
As much as I feel #1, so much of labeling things comes down to being able to put a name to something so that you can have a targeted discussion about it and, if needed, troubleshoot it, investigate it, address it, find commonality, and so on.
Before I was "Autistic and ADHD", I was "lazy and weird". In any heterogeneous society, labels are going to exist; the only question is, will you pick them for yourself, or will you let someone else pick them for you?
Autistic and ADHD are useful diagnoses though. It’s a specific brain chemistry, leading to specific behavioral patterns.
If you know what’s happening, you can take steps to address it, just like with any diagnosis. Got scurvy? Eat some oranges instead of yelling at your teeth.
I get the point he's trying to make here... but convince the bigots to stop killing, dehumanizing, and discriminating against marginalized groups and we won't have to define ourselves that way. Don't blame US for trying to call attention to ourselves in hopes that we don't just get ignored (or worse).
Colorblindness doesn't help. It's idealistic (and typically dominant race serving) to the point of being vapid. It's a very low rung on the racism awareness ladder.
I thought he was an alt-right person at first 'I don't care if you're black, white, or lgbt BBQ WWE' I'm like your grandparents saw their friends get strung up by trees, what the fuck do you MEAN you don't care about race issues?
I argue that labels make it worse by separating people even further. Defining elicits separation by definition. That invites hateful people to be more hateful. Whining about being ignored proves it's not about being treated the same, but being treated special.
I agree conceptually, but the honest truth is that without a unified front to argue *for*, you can't really get anywhere in generating acceptance.
Labels are icky and I don't like where the current trends of identity agree going. But it's better than what came before so I keep my mouth shut about it. We can argue about the usefulness of labels once things are good enough that that becomes a meaningful concern.
He says "be who you wanna be" and then complains when people say "I'm pan sexual". Dude, they are who they want to be if you just listen to them. If you truly respected everyone as a person, you wouldn't complain about the person telling you about themselves.
His point misses everyone else’s point. Identity is who you are as a person, and people denying that have caused a great deal of harm, both to themselves and to the world.
LOL, I bet this dude's stance on labels goes right out the window when he hears a white dude drop the n-word in the same context he's deploying it...as well it should. The fact that he's trying and failing to make a joke about this shit while using reclaimed labeling language shows a startling lack of self-awareness and a poor understanding of historical context.
Thing about racism isn’t always the words: it’s the consequences for teaching someone a lesson. I’m supposed to just be called a derogatory term and take it on the chin because society tells me to know my place is the demeaning part more than the word. When society decides who can fight back, that’s the problem.
He’s wrong when he downplays other people’s experiences based on identity.
The Roberts Court has made it crystal clear that some of the “identities” listed in the first video are of lower value and have fewer protections than others.
ToSisPoS
It doesn’t matter until you’re wearing a colour-coded felt symbol to sort which railcar you’re herded into.
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wadatahmydamie
I mean, is he? You’d think he understands that “labels” change how the world sees you, and in some cases it’s got a greater impact than any action you could do.
Yasashii93
These videos are made to look at wisdom, but if you ask me, he’s saying a whole lot of nothing.
loopdesigns
and often
wadatahmydamie
Ice Cream Koans
wadatahmydamie
This guy looks way too young to be doing boomer affirmations. Cool bro, you don’t give a fuck about someone’s labels - but the Supreme Court sure does, and a whole lot of good people are getting fucked over on a systemic level.
charliechaplinslookalike
I think something went over your head. He said. HE doesn’t care about your labeled as long as you’re a good person. He didn’t say THE SYSTEM doesn’t care about your labels. Because the system does and the system wants you to be a bad person. It was designed to be selfish and dividing.
wadatahmydamie
Sure. If he weren’t directly scolding people and telling them what to do, you’d even have a point.
GoodEarthBetweenMyToes
#1 is the same argument that the "All Lives Matter" people were using a few years ago, to minimize the truth that some people really do have a harder life because of their skin colour.
charliechaplinslookalike
No it’s not. He cares about your character content not your labels. Yea sure the system cares about your labels and uses that to divide.
wadatahmydamie
Yeah, a leopard doesn’t give a shit what you taste like, but an average cop will break your bones for being the wrong color
charliechaplinslookalike
Colour
SarcasticComment
I'll stop caring about labels when conservatives quit complaining about representation because we didn't pretend a group doesn't exist. having a gay couple on Sesame Street matters so that the children of gay couples can see themselves. "why does it matter?" ~ asked the person who could see their family in virtually every prrogram.
SarcasticComment
this is some "all lives matter" shit
charliechaplinslookalike
Eat what ever gentiles you’re I to
SarcasticComment
the only one having a stroke is you
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Big boomerkin energy. Yikes.
DoubleOhTwentyEight
Definitely Team Lima Bean
Redshadow09
I like this guy. Dude is Spitting facts
Einbrecher
As much as I feel #1, so much of labeling things comes down to being able to put a name to something so that you can have a targeted discussion about it and, if needed, troubleshoot it, investigate it, address it, find commonality, and so on.
MrAcurite
Before I was "Autistic and ADHD", I was "lazy and weird". In any heterogeneous society, labels are going to exist; the only question is, will you pick them for yourself, or will you let someone else pick them for you?
wadatahmydamie
Autistic and ADHD are useful diagnoses though. It’s a specific brain chemistry, leading to specific behavioral patterns.
If you know what’s happening, you can take steps to address it, just like with any diagnosis. Got scurvy? Eat some oranges instead of yelling at your teeth.
dailysuicidalthoughts
A comedian I will never see, thanks for the awareness on how shit they are.
Futschigama
Oh, so leopards can say the N-word now? /s
mikeatike
Yeah, we get it. He just wants yo be a bigot. Well, he can fuck off.
VolcanoHerder
I get the point he's trying to make here... but convince the bigots to stop killing, dehumanizing, and discriminating against marginalized groups and we won't have to define ourselves that way. Don't blame US for trying to call attention to ourselves in hopes that we don't just get ignored (or worse).
PorneliusHubertII
People label themselves to better understand themselves and to find like-minded people. That's not a bad thing.
EmptyHouseBurglar
Colorblindness doesn't help. It's idealistic (and typically dominant race serving) to the point of being vapid. It's a very low rung on the racism awareness ladder.
TheGrumpyOldTroll
Correct. Colorblindness isn't anti-racism, that's just more "yes, we'll just keep not talking about what's *really* going on" racism.
Anyway. Everybody's a racist til the space aliens are comin' for their livers.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
I thought he was an alt-right person at first 'I don't care if you're black, white, or lgbt BBQ WWE' I'm like your grandparents saw their friends get strung up by trees, what the fuck do you MEAN you don't care about race issues?
mikeatike
I'm not convinced he isn't
accountforimgur
I argue that labels make it worse by separating people even further. Defining elicits separation by definition. That invites hateful people to be more hateful.
Whining about being ignored proves it's not about being treated the same, but being treated special.
TheAuthorOfTheJournalsMyBrother
I agree conceptually, but the honest truth is that without a unified front to argue *for*, you can't really get anywhere in generating acceptance.
Labels are icky and I don't like where the current trends of identity agree going. But it's better than what came before so I keep my mouth shut about it. We can argue about the usefulness of labels once things are good enough that that becomes a meaningful concern.
ineedausernamerightmeow
Keyword in what you said: unified.
Which is why the efforts to continue adding more to LGBT+ and similar to differentiate instead of unite seem counterproductive.
nsmike
"I am me, be nice to me" is going to get a pretty big shrug when it comes to policy.
friarRat
We are Earthlings. Organisms. The only thing making us "special" is our brains telling us we are.
ethicalinfant
I love how many people are in here getting mad at a guy telling them to stop worrying about social constructs and just live.
killergrooves85
I’m a punk.
SleepyKitten
He says "be who you wanna be" and then complains when people say "I'm pan sexual". Dude, they are who they want to be if you just listen to them. If you truly respected everyone as a person, you wouldn't complain about the person telling you about themselves.
HolyFreakingToast
his point is that being a good person is more important than any label.
mikeatike
But defines "being a good person" as "never being open about your identity".
wadatahmydamie
His point misses everyone else’s point. Identity is who you are as a person, and people denying that have caused a great deal of harm, both to themselves and to the world.
pluralone
Being a good person and defining oneself are not mutually exclusive.
HolyFreakingToast
no, but his point is that label doesn't matter - it is who you are, labels and all. and are you a good person?
SleepyKitten
Sure, but that guy seems to think it is.
pluralone
Yes he does. He's wrong.
HesOnTheList
LOL, I bet this dude's stance on labels goes right out the window when he hears a white dude drop the n-word in the same context he's deploying it...as well it should. The fact that he's trying and failing to make a joke about this shit while using reclaimed labeling language shows a startling lack of self-awareness and a poor understanding of historical context.
Farfel8088
Lenny Bruce - the OG subversive comic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaRqDc41IFQ It's rough, but listen thru to the end.
Destro24
Thing about racism isn’t always the words: it’s the consequences for teaching someone a lesson. I’m supposed to just be called a derogatory term and take it on the chin because society tells me to know my place is the demeaning part more than the word. When society decides who can fight back, that’s the problem.
TheGrumpyOldTroll
There's a really good point.
Black people use the n-word out loud in front of other people because of the emotional consequences of the word.
White people use the n-word out loud in front of other people *for the same reason*.
An emotionally violent utterance, among black folk; a reminder of generational pain, and among white folk, a chance to perpetrate generational pain.
White people (think/say)ing the n-word is about inflicting emotional violence, no matter the context it's dressed up in
ethicalinfant
Julian Cross* and he's right
wadatahmydamie
Not really, no. There’s a reason he’s doing this stuff on Insta rather than on a stage in a Sundown county
ethicalinfant
he's right. You are human. I know this because you are typing silly things on the internet for no reason.
wadatahmydamie
He’s wrong when he downplays other people’s experiences based on identity.
The Roberts Court has made it crystal clear that some of the “identities” listed in the first video are of lower value and have fewer protections than others.
ethicalinfant
there are very real things to be mad about right now and this guy is not one of them
wadatahmydamie
Projection from someone who doesn’t understand the discussion? Now I’ve seen everything.
TheGrumpyOldTroll
I love how people think Insta isn't a Sundown town.
wadatahmydamie
It’s not. Do you know what the phrase means?