Between you and me, I had a great time during the lockdown. Paid to smoke weed and work out and play video games. Yes, I cried myself to sleep every night because I was afraid my friends were going to die. But video games!
If you have any amount of spare space at all, you should ALWAYS be hoarding toilet paper. Like, at least one big 24 pack tucked away for a bad day. Because we have changed NOTHING since the last time the country ran out of toilet paper, which means it is inevitable it will happen again.
Sure there was. People were hoarding it, resulting in shortages, so if you didn't hoard it you wouldn't get any, so people hoarded it, resulting in shortages.
Well, obviously if people in your area didn't hoard it, there wouldn't be a shortage so people in your area wouldn't feel the need to hoard it. But if they had hoarded it then they would have boarded it.
Oh cool. Another pandemic is starting while Donny is president. Every time evangelicals are in power some new virus appears. The last one was very good for the pharma and digital industry.
It seems they took notes from Idiocracy on how to run a country, I am surprised that they didn't use Outbreak as reference on how to deal with infectious diseases.
Idiocracy is actually better, because (1) President Camacho genuinely wanted to make the lives of his people better and (2) when he found people who were smarter than he was, he brought them on board and took their advice.
toilet paper shortage/hording was a self induced issue in the USA. The vast majority is made locally because its such a low profit and bulky item it costs to much to ship it in.
Precisely. Being a high physical volume and rather tight profit markup, its rarely an import/export commodity. One of the few things generally always made domestically wherever it is.
That's the issue. These things are by definition not typically contagious person to person but there must be a patient zero where the strain mutated to be contagious.
Corona Virus was a well documented virus strain in Bats, and then it mutated to affect humans. Swine Flu. Bird Flu. HIV/AIDS (from west african monkeys)
Everything that I've seen suggests that the Andes virus variant while can be transferred from human to human, is only able to do that during the period where they have a fever and it also requires relatively close contact.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0507/1572087-hantavirus-cruise-ship/ "According to broadcaster RTL, a KLM cabin crew member who had been in contact with her [a lady who caught it on the ship and later died] has now been admitted to a hospital in Amsterdam after showing possible hantavirus symptoms."
My guess is this won't be another COVID but things change. At least there are professionals taking this seriously and not the GOP Ostrich syndrome we have in the US.
I doubt it, but that's because the virus isn't thought to be as contagious as COVID. I'm not watching closely, but so far it seems that human to human transmission has happened in confined spaces with prolonged exposure (cruise ship, airplane cabin). If it continues to spread, I'll pay closer attention.
This particular strain is the rate one where it can pass from person to person, however, the contagion rate is really low. Not airborne, requires prolonged contact with infected bodily fluids, short latency period, etc. Possible to pass between family members but that's really about it.
Unless it's the Andes virus strain, which it is. Toledo J, Haby MM, Reveiz L, Sosa Leon L, Angerami R, Aldighieri S. Evidence for Human-to-Human Transmission of Hantavirus: A Systematic Review. J Infect Dis. 2022 Oct 17;226(8):1362-1371. doi: 10.1093/infdis/jiab461. PMID: 34515290; PMCID: PMC9574657.
Unfortunately, the cruise ship in question was either coming from, or the people who appeared to have started the outbreak are from Argentina, where the Andes hantavirus, the only form of it that can be passed from person to person, originates. The "plus side" is that Hantavirus is normally too deadly to be capable of mass spread.
Its long incubation time of serveral weeks would make it very dangerous, even at that death rate, but I've heard it needs heavy contact to spread from human to human, which usually limits its reach. Hopefully...
Hanta's been around for quite a while. Covid became a problem because it was new and we didn't know what its characteristics were; that's why the response was to just shut everything down until we could figure it out, but too many idiots sabotaged it.
We know how Hanta spreads and how it behaves, so we can go straight to quarantining people if needed instead of letting morons sneeze on each other in barbershops.
In addition to deadliness, it’s just not communicable through casual contact. Yes, the Andes strain *can* pass person-to-person, but it doesn’t do so easily or often. Coughing and sneezing, handshakes, and so on, just won’t do it. Swapping bodily fluids is necessary.
Yes, but, a sneeze into a mouth could cause bodily fluid transfers. It’s still possible through casual contact, just very unlikely. stay away from unhygienic people and wash your hands and casual contact should be fine. We put our hands to our mouths subconsciously more often than we think.
Damn they must've had an orgy then, loads of people have gotten sick with it, not just the few that have died so far. The doctor on the ship is in the ICU atm. The only cure is to use fake lungs until your lungs stop being dead
"typically" still applies. Every news outlet is going to sensationalize every "Hanta virus" case now, when it's only this Argentinian variant that can spread person to person, and that spread is typically limited to "people in very close contact for an extended period of time" like a wife or a cruise ship cabin steward/waiter. And usually you die before you can spread it to too many other people.
Yes, but known cases are appearing here and there and I find this concerning. It was the same at the beginning of COVID, where we were expecting something like SARS but we had random people getting sick with it around the world. I still doubt it would get as bad as COVID, but it looks more contagious than only during prolonged close contact. Time will tell!
There's nothing indicating that this is anywhere near as contagious as COVID. There's been outbreaks in Argentina over the years, it's never spread to a large population.
This was a South American version that is the only version known to be able to transmit human to human. Also might have an incubation period as long as 40 days.
OneBigBeautifulBiscuit
Biden's fault, probably.
hsalonen3000
I seriously cannot handle another multi-year pandemic.
Guilletas
Time traveler: "what year is it?!"
alcamar
Plague Inc - if you wish to game a bit in what could happen.
Munchman347
'At least they'll be treated by... Uh, maybe they can call the... Well, guess they all dead now...'
khaoselement
Man it'd be great to have another pandemic where I DON'T have to work 80 hour weeks in a hospital. Spend time at home.
johnblood616
Between you and me, I had a great time during the lockdown. Paid to smoke weed and work out and play video games. Yes, I cried myself to sleep every night because I was afraid my friends were going to die. But video games!
turtleninja5
Plague Inc. the Game - IRL.. part 2!… maybe 3?
fformulaa
Man, now i want some fanta
robpaschal
Butthead.
Taokan22
If you have any amount of spare space at all, you should ALWAYS be hoarding toilet paper. Like, at least one big 24 pack tucked away for a bad day. Because we have changed NOTHING since the last time the country ran out of toilet paper, which means it is inevitable it will happen again.
MusicPenguin
At this point get a bidet.
Taokan22
I'd recommend trying a bidet before you buy one. It's an experience. It's not for everyone.
Bystandr
In all the countries besides the USA who are affected, please note: Its RFK and Trump who appointed RFK who caused this disease.
IakobZ
Don't worry, guys, we'll take care of it.
Sennox
Oh Yes pleeeease! I could Go for another lockdown
Heva18
Me tooooo!! Except now I have a dumb work from home job so I'll just have to keep working 😞
Taxian
Maybe I'll have enough money to afford a cruise now?
Probably not. But maybe.
karlfrack
Glad we have a strong leader for times like this......
trinxter
I think with hantavirus you want to hoard oxygen.
PinkEater
Sauce https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/07/world/hantavirus-ship-tenerife-outbreak-intl
youreathing
There was never a need to hoard toilet paper, and that whole thing baffles me. Grocery Supply Chains know how to deal with this.
cousteau
Sure there was. People were hoarding it, resulting in shortages, so if you didn't hoard it you wouldn't get any, so people hoarded it, resulting in shortages.
youreathing
I never noticed a shortage of anything but patience in my area, which is albeit fairly dense.
cousteau
Well, obviously if people in your area didn't hoard it, there wouldn't be a shortage so people in your area wouldn't feel the need to hoard it. But if they had hoarded it then they would have boarded it.
TryTheGrayStuffItsDelicious
History repeating itself usually takes a few decades or centuries. We're managing it in 6 years. Impressive work everyone
lx469
why, are u german?
htapoicoS
Yeah it's not even that contagious. Couldn't even do a real outbreak on a fucking cruise ship
bamblebimble
Way to downplay the lives of those affected.
cousteau
OK but let's not taunt the virus.
Dvsusnx
Oh cool. Another pandemic is starting while Donny is president. Every time evangelicals are in power some new virus appears. The last one was very good for the pharma and digital industry.
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubman
USAID and the CDC cuts lookin real dumb right now
5D chess indeed
SimSimSimsalabim
It seems they took notes from Idiocracy on how to run a country, I am surprised that they didn't use Outbreak as reference on how to deal with infectious diseases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdlrWDx2Ldw
bikergeek6249
Idiocracy is actually better, because (1) President Camacho genuinely wanted to make the lives of his people better and (2) when he found people who were smarter than he was, he brought them on board and took their advice.
SimSimSimsalabim
Yes, that's why they took just notes and didn't treat it like a pre-made plan.
charondaboatman
unclesporky
Imagine if you had Fantavirus and all your blood slowly converted to fruit-flavored soda.
75townecoupe
Isn't this just diabetes?
prosper020
No, that turns your pee into honey.
75townecoupe
That explains alot, sadly. But then why do the Doctors keep wanting more of my blood? It's probably delicious!
BeardedViking
Is this the real life? Is this just fantavirus sea? Caught in a landslide~~
hiyo365
Then the Fantpires would really come outta the woodwork!
youreathing
Please, that's just a Fanta-sy.
Banzai51
Isn't that just diabetes?
waronhugs
If it means I never have to hear that song again. No, I do not wanna Fanta!
whiskeywonka
toilet paper shortage/hording was a self induced issue in the USA. The vast majority is made locally because its such a low profit and bulky item it costs to much to ship it in.
quelin
Australia started it!
whiskeywonka
Ah yes the ugly step sister defense. Its a good strategy.
Nakiepanda
Australia makes its own loo paper as well. There would have been no supply issue if people weren't selfish dickheads.
quelin
Precisely. Being a high physical volume and rather tight profit markup, its rarely an import/export commodity. One of the few things generally always made domestically wherever it is.
wecouldbehappywithoutcapitalism
And the guy that accelerated covid and made it a pandemic is in charge again, this time with unprecedented power.
htapoicoS
*unpresidented power?
4chanrefugee
Plus he has his literal brain rotted secretary of h wealth and human services this time!
notsurewhattocallthis
I know you meant Health.. but in this admi istration.. Secretary of Wealth makes sooo much more sense.
xj4low
We already had a measles problem. Don't think that got solved. Just got moved to media being done reporting on it.
StillNotYouTube
What do you mean you've seen this? It's brand new.
orp0piru
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_Diamond_Princess
0053
I'm guessing the people that are downvoting you never saw Back to the Future or know that it's what you're quoting.
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
Well, it got me.
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
Referring to the start of COVID.
QuarkCharmer
Not typically contagious person-to-person.
MusicPenguin
Except the dead ones. And this time, they admit it is airborne.
quelin
rare, very rare. But its happened before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweating_sickness
ElroydIsGone
This strain is, but needs some contact, I've heard, so its not like some airborne flu.
CallMeCourierSix
It is airborne.
Back in 2018, in the town of Epuyen, 11 people died. One of them caught it from patient zero by walking past him in a restaurant.
That's all it took.
MundySeme
That's the issue. These things are by definition not typically contagious person to person but there must be a patient zero where the strain mutated to be contagious.
Corona Virus was a well documented virus strain in Bats, and then it mutated to affect humans.
Swine Flu.
Bird Flu.
HIV/AIDS (from west african monkeys)
And now we have this one from Rat urine.
DunnowForgot
Not usually, no. But this is Andes strain. And that just so happens to be the exception. https://www.livescience.com/health/viruses-infections-disease/andes-virus-the-only-hantavirus-strain-that-can-spread-between-people-identified-as-culprit-on-cruise-ship
BeaverOnFire
Everything that I've seen suggests that the Andes virus variant while can be transferred from human to human, is only able to do that during the period where they have a fever and it also requires relatively close contact.
dynamojoe
https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0507/1572087-hantavirus-cruise-ship/ "According to broadcaster RTL, a KLM cabin crew member who had been in contact with her [a lady who caught it on the ship and later died] has now been admitted to a hospital in Amsterdam after showing possible hantavirus symptoms."
My guess is this won't be another COVID but things change. At least there are professionals taking this seriously and not the GOP Ostrich syndrome we have in the US.
GeneralPrower
So in other words, most countries will do pretty well against it, and the US is going to get nuked.
dynamojoe
I doubt it, but that's because the virus isn't thought to be as contagious as COVID. I'm not watching closely, but so far it seems that human to human transmission has happened in confined spaces with prolonged exposure (cruise ship, airplane cabin). If it continues to spread, I'll pay closer attention.
butcherfan0301
This particular strain is the rate one where it can pass from person to person, however, the contagion rate is really low. Not airborne, requires prolonged contact with infected bodily fluids, short latency period, etc. Possible to pass between family members but that's really about it.
ethicalinfant
thank you
gablestout
Unless it's the Andes virus strain, which it is.
Toledo J, Haby MM, Reveiz L, Sosa Leon L, Angerami R, Aldighieri S. Evidence for Human-to-Human Transmission of Hantavirus: A Systematic Review. J Infect Dis. 2022 Oct 17;226(8):1362-1371. doi: 10.1093/infdis/jiab461. PMID: 34515290; PMCID: PMC9574657.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34515290/
PancakeSupreme
It is the Andes strain
CallMeCourierSix
Andes variant is INSANELY contagious person-to-person, and that's what we're dealing with.
Back in 2018, one guy caught it from patient zero in the town of Epuyen BY WALKING PAST HIM ONCE.
JFC DUDE, shut the fuck up with your armchair "medical" knowledge.
nation543
As others have said, this is. It's mutated so it can now transmit between humans. It is contagious.
JokenPo0079
Unfortunately, the cruise ship in question was either coming from, or the people who appeared to have started the outbreak are from Argentina, where the Andes hantavirus, the only form of it that can be passed from person to person, originates.
The "plus side" is that Hantavirus is normally too deadly to be capable of mass spread.
brokehackfourlane
its always possible for virus to become less lethal. but i agree.
dohcohv
Yay?
ElroydIsGone
Its long incubation time of serveral weeks would make it very dangerous, even at that death rate, but I've heard it needs heavy contact to spread from human to human, which usually limits its reach.
Hopefully...
NaughtButOne
Hanta's been around for quite a while. Covid became a problem because it was new and we didn't know what its characteristics were; that's why the response was to just shut everything down until we could figure it out, but too many idiots sabotaged it.
We know how Hanta spreads and how it behaves, so we can go straight to quarantining people if needed instead of letting morons sneeze on each other in barbershops.
dragoonwraith
In addition to deadliness, it’s just not communicable through casual contact. Yes, the Andes strain *can* pass person-to-person, but it doesn’t do so easily or often. Coughing and sneezing, handshakes, and so on, just won’t do it. Swapping bodily fluids is necessary.
prosper020
Yes, but, a sneeze into a mouth could cause bodily fluid transfers. It’s still possible through casual contact, just very unlikely. stay away from unhygienic people and wash your hands and casual contact should be fine. We put our hands to our mouths subconsciously more often than we think.
But yeah, don’t go kissing / licking sick people.
wallla
So they say. However, how did a Stewardess got infected? Did they kiss?
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1t6bvhv/klm_flight_attendant_hospitalized_after_contact/
bamblebimble
Damn they must've had an orgy then, loads of people have gotten sick with it, not just the few that have died so far. The doctor on the ship is in the ICU atm. The only cure is to use fake lungs until your lungs stop being dead
MrStealUrMeme
Yet.. doesn't spread easily yet. Viruses mutate pretty rapidly
therealalansmithee
Patient zero’s wife caught it from him and also died
htapoicoS
They had sex I think ;D
MeowWoof
"typically" still applies. Every news outlet is going to sensationalize every "Hanta virus" case now, when it's only this Argentinian variant that can spread person to person, and that spread is typically limited to "people in very close contact for an extended period of time" like a wife or a cruise ship cabin steward/waiter. And usually you die before you can spread it to too many other people.
spooksterz
Yes, but known cases are appearing here and there and I find this concerning. It was the same at the beginning of COVID, where we were expecting something like SARS but we had random people getting sick with it around the world. I still doubt it would get as bad as COVID, but it looks more contagious than only during prolonged close contact. Time will tell!
MeowWoof
There's nothing indicating that this is anywhere near as contagious as COVID. There's been outbreaks in Argentina over the years, it's never spread to a large population.
hogeyegrex
QuarkCharmer
My bad. It appears things evolve, including my knowlage.
Perkunas687
This was a South American version that is the only version known to be able to transmit human to human. Also might have an incubation period as long as 40 days.
htapoicoS
It didn't evolve. It's contagious during sex and such things but not as covid
bamblebimble
Damn, they must've had a fucking orgy then.
ForceAwakenWasLame
No need to worry for us imgurians I guess
MissMeaniePie
I like this comment. Apologising, accepting new information and showing growth
SeeYaLaterMethamphetaGator
10/10