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VultureTX
scare piece- this is pre-insurance and they have no copays by CARES-" The couple has insurance. They plan on calling to make sure"
finshake
That’s an EOB. Not a bill.
AwesomeTeddybear
It's easy, stop being poor and stop being sick! Tadaaa, solved
friendsofsandwiches
if anyone said that anywhere near my personage, even scarcasticly, I would be going to jail not long afterwards. I would fucking stab them.
ShawnS0l0
KeithSvenson
https://66.media.tumblr.com/9187e2652dc255b81a331408304f4d78/tumblr_pg82bl3p1v1tx7swe_400.gifv
AbsolutelyNotTheNSA
It's a good job teachers get paid so much! /s
Xanducalrizian
HaHA, it's funny because teachers aren't paid shit??????
Freakayou
John20012
*thrice that much.....at least where i'm at....
zerothealien
Quality ladies or minimum wage teachers?
PlotTwistwastaken
just out of curiosity why do you know the income of teachers? seems suspicious
John20012
Public records, family friends that are teachers, my economics teacher.....
idiotblacksmith
I don't know about everywhere else, but here public worker's wage brackets are public record.
AbsolutelyNotTheNSA
You're being downvoted but I thought you were making a joke about knowing teachers salaries when the question should've been hookers
DamagedDingo
But people aren’t so smart
PlotTwistwastaken
I was lol
PoorSucker
AlmostClever
Source: https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/covid-survivor-receives-840-000-statement-for-treatment-with-more-on-the-way
MofongoBalls
BuT tHeY gEt ThE sUmMeR oFf
Alkuam2
?
EricPisch
Hope he’s a chemistry teacher
ensensu
They have a bigger job than teaching then.
2CraZyXTiRed98
DontTazeMeBrah
RhamnusiaThePaladin
I laughed harder than I should have at this.
Sm9yCg
Well, not anymore.
mymidlifecrisiswasat23
TinaLouise2U
Thank you I needed that belly laugh.
MrBEC
Funny, but His Life is ruined. Gegus christ...
bobbyofthehill
You mean the one who knocks!
TechnicallySpeakingImAWhatever
MadeYouLookAgain
Fl0zilla
Allan
WhatsYourCovidStory
My name
ryansmVillain
Peter
kevbot5000
Steve?
soulman901
It’s William get it right
Painkiller1020
As a teacher I think that is more than his lifetime earnings.
PennysWorthOfTea
I'm a community college bio instructor in the US. That would be about 17 years of my gross (not net) income. All of it. :(
dragonsluvtacos
This more than the lifetime savings of the majority of Americans.
AndrewLBC
BS. Average teacher salary here in Cali is $83k + pension + benefit. Pension = 65-95% of final salary.
PangolinBan
https://www.cde.ca.gov/fg/fr/sa/cefavgsalaries.asp. Also: gross, not net.
DeserTimmy
Oh! So only about 11 years of income, before interest, if he doesn’t spend it on silly stuff like housing or food? Fuckin easy!
Blud4BludGod
The average teacher salary in CA is just over 60k. Still a lot better than the national average, but a far cry from 80k.
Somanyquestions
You need to work 40 years at 25k a year to make a million. The starting teacher salary is about 40k. 840k is ONLY 21 years of work!
scotzmon
Add in a few percent of interest and it would be
DeltaBladeX
Yeah, but that is only the first bill anyway according to the Twitter post. Once you add more, Painkiller1020 is likely going to be correct.
TheSwedishCryptid
yeah, if you never eat or live anywhere.
YouThinkThisMatters
So work 21 years and pay no bills?
Prolicon
Taxes
OtterlyMagnificent
It's definitely more than his lifetime earnings. It's rare for most people to exceed 1 million in their lifetime.
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OtterlyMagnificent
I likely will. Because I went to college, got a good job, and got my student loans paid off.
Somanyquestions
It's really not, anyone making more than 25k a year should exceed 1 million.
OtterlyMagnificent
Don't forget taxes. Taxes reduce usable earnings. And that's assuming 40 years of exceeding that. $14/hr is below 25k/yr. Minimum wage 1/
OtterlyMagnificent
is less than $14/hr nationwide. And the majority of the population are not earning more than minimum wage.2/2
Somanyquestions
What are you talking about. Only between 2-3% of the US population earns minimum wage.
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
So the statement needs more qualifications. In the states, many people will earn (not accumulate) more than 1 million $US. In say,
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
Subsaharan Africa where the average annual income is about $750 US, notsomuch.
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
The second and third bills are really going to hurt the wallet.
homerunman
Yeah, I wonder what he'll do after he sells the house to cover the 7th and 8th bills.
PictureArchiver
Like this one will just come out of the piggy bank?
JustBoone
Anyone got that spongebob meme where he throws the paper in the fire? Cause that's exactly what I'd be doing. Fuck that shit. Nearly 1 mil!?
SisterFister69Hitler
Fuck that. I’m declaring bankruptcy.
JustBoone
Shame bankruptcy doesnt apply to student loans or else I'd be doing it too.
gtmiller
Listen, he got a thousand dollars from the government. How long are you expecting them to hold his hands when they have to bail out all of
gtmiller
the hedge funds on Wallstreet? Why won't anyone think of he billionaires?
kaizervonmaanen
Can't do that, they will repo your home and take from your inheritance as well. And have many other ways to force money out of you.
LollipopLich
I understood that medical debt ran under different rules, and was not collectible in that manner. Was I misslead? *shock*
Batonrougeisnotsobad
It does. You were right.
fullstop
I think that I'd just leave the country.
blathergram
Not many other options really are there
Thecynicalspud
Claim refugee status...
JustBoone
Kinda wish I could actually, shits bad right now may want to get out and see the world before it fucking ends lol.
AlexMurphy20
If you say you can't pay eventually they just let it go (probably a portion of the reason the price tag is so high)
StoicOptimist
We've received a statement that said, "If you pay $1200 in the next two weeks, we will forgive the remainder of a $14,000 medical bill.
AlexMurphy20
Happened to my buddy too, 50k went to 20, went to 10, went to 5, then they stopped calling, fucked his credit for sure but I'd take 7 years
AlexMurphy20
no loans over that
CygloPargen
I absolutely hate that people think this is true. It will destroy your credit for the rest of your life and prevent you ever 1/2
CygloPargen
buying a house or car, jobs do background checks, etc.. It will ruin your life and follow you forever. Bankruptcy laws are fucked, too.
CygloPargen
Oh, and they'll garnish your wages if you do get a job. The "poor people are well taken care of in this country" line is part of the problem
JarJarBinksKisser
It costs roughly $2,000 to renounce your US citizenship.
BuckMemeSmuggler
Cheaper than 800k. Sounds like a deal
debthepleb
The US haunts you if you try to leave. No EU banks would open an account even while I was a US student and came here for an internship.
jimicus
Most EU banks aren’t set up to deal with US reporting regulations.
SendMeDogsOrTits
Just say no if they ask you if you're an american citizen. I've had no issues in all my years.
punnyusername
That’s a great cropped picture on a post with no source link. What’s the amount that was actually charged to the patient after insurance?
egised
Im so glad i live in a countey with an actual healthcare system..
PlankTableGo
Boomers: This happened to you because you didn't work hard enough
CidColetti
Not defending our shitty health system but the hospital coder probably fucked up and didn't put Covid as the primary DX. All they need to do
whatthefuck9999999
Yeah you might be right: the Atlantic is sayin $20-70k is expected for COVID in patient stay.
AndrewLBC
Not even close. FIrst off all, he's pay just a deductible. I had swine flu and almost died. bill nowhere near that high.
RelativeVelocity
Hey so did I! But somehow, I still think Mono was worse.
AndrewLBC
Even after obama fucked things up, we still have the best system. Other systems may have great care but they have long wait times.
cutebytes
NO UPVOTES DUDE. ONLY DOWNVOTES
kaizervonmaanen
This is nonsense. There isn't that much more waiting than in America just because it is free-to-use.
IrrationalEd
Just incredibly wrong. You are wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.
Vollidiot
Rot emergencies? Fuck, no! Living in Germany, I gladly wait a couple of days for elective provedures before paying ridiculious amounts 1/
Vollidiot
Of money. If you absolutely need treatment, you will get it in time.
CidColetti
submit a corrected bill and it should resolve. However, getting a bill like that would be fucking horrifying.
TheSecondRunnerUp
Why would a COVID dx code make any difference? Only testing is being covered.
CidColetti
True, but I'd be shocked that this wasn't a billing fuck up. Especially since it was covid related.
BaxterTheMiniatureBuddha
I spent 2 hours in the ER and got a 3,500 dollar bill. Is it really that big of a stretch? These people are in the hospital for weeks
CidColetti
You likely have a high deductible with a max out of pocket between 6-10k.
AlaSnackbar
4 years ago I was in hospital for 11 days w/ pneumonia & renal failure. Got billed $230k. Couple calls later found they used wrong code.
AlaSnackbar
They apologized and told me that it was actually already fixed and I just hadn't received the updated bill of $0 with insurance
kaizervonmaanen
People still have to pay for covid. It is just the testing that is covered.
misteremjay
My dad was in ICU for two months before passing. Step mom now is dealing with med bills for several million. Hoping insurance will pay most
Xenomania
At what point do these greedy fucks realize they ain't getting that much money? How much do they think people have? I'm rootin for you.
Blud4BludGod
You misunderstand, they don't think they're getting all that. They just think that they're getting every red cent that person has.
Xenomania
That's evil. Just plain evil. Die from sickness or die in abject poverty. Such freedom.
Frozenspokes
Or die from sickness in abject poverty.
IdkWhatIsThis
Sorry for your loss mate :( I'd suggest honestly declaring bankruptcy at that point. Unless you're a Really good gambler or play stocks
misteremjay
He had enough put aside, she's just trying to get the insurance to pay for everything first. It still will probably be tens of thousands
IdkWhatIsThis
Yikes still. Glad your father was wise with his funds. She's gonna need to pester the hell out of the company tho to get movement sooner
wargames
just declare bankruptcy at that point
WhatBackWaterCountry
It seems odd that bills would pass to her. They were his debts. I suppose his estate should pay. The US system is fucked.
misteremjay
It's the estate, she's the administrator and is trying to keep them from basically taking everything.
e93egl
life insurance benefits and retirement accounts (401k/IRA) are not part of the probate process and go directly to the beneficiaries
HereStandsOneWhoseNameWasWritInWater
You pay nothing for most terminal illnesses in the EU. How can the land of the free be such a prison
delaneige
Capitalism. Politicians have convinced the public that "socialism" has no place here & anything that supports the working class is socialism
Sixfootsquid
And in England we complain about paying for parking at the hospital
fner
I think we mostly complain that doctors and nurses pay for parking at the hospital
fner
The US is a third world country with fancy military and nice cars.
mossflower
"The land of the Free*"
mossflower
*some restrictions apply, more so if you're not a billionaire
suomynonA
They should make it so if the person dies, don't have to pay the bill.
tekcor
This is exactly how it is. Your debt dies with you. Estate will eat up what it can, but beyond that, that's it. Debt collectors will ...
tekcor
... go after anybody in the family they can. They'll try to intimidate, even though debt does not get inherited.
TheDrunkenHuntsman
If the person dies, they don't have to pay the bill. Next of kin does, and they'll make you homeless over it.
suomynonA
Makes it so that hospitals and doctors and big pharma will work harder to keep patients alive so they can pay their bills.
WhatzitTooya
Oh, this sounds like it could horribly backfire.
Blud4BludGod
They already do whatever it is you're thinking of.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Release people who still need treatment because they don't want the to die in the hospital?
AlarmClockBandit
Or just have a health system that doesn't force you into bankruptcy if you get treatment.
sunyudai
The only sources I can find for this are "news1.news", which is an Israeli site, and Newsdio, which is a one year old "news" site hosted...
sunyudai
*registered , not hosted -> ...registered through Domain Protection Services, Inc. I'm guessing this is not a legitimate article.
GeminiMax
Gee.. if only there was a president candidate that would of fixed this... oh there WAS one.
Ihatedecidingonausername
We literally have no context for this. The system is complicated. The billed amount is never the amount due. So what's going on here?
QUOLL37
take one zero off - still ridiculous, take 2 zeros off - still more than anyone in a sane western society would have to pay. RIP USA.
kaizervonmaanen
Take 3 zeroes off and it is still 4 times as much as the maximum copay per year for treatment AND medicine in nearly al developed countries.
Ihatedecidingonausername
If there's any insurance at all there's likely a lifetime maximum which is nowhere near that amount. It is likely not as insane as it looks
skip2112
Paying 45 dollars for a case of beer in Canada for our healthcare seems like a pretty good deal now
NickRoss1
When you pay 15 to buy a 4 pack most of that just goes to the foreign companies that own the beer store.
AndrewLBC
Until you are told you can't get that stint in your heart for 9 months and end up coming to the US to be treated immediately.
Catellimeatsauce
If you're going to die without it, you won't wait that long. Yes waits can be longer, but they will use proper judgement so you don't die...
kaizervonmaanen
That never happens. If someone need care quick then they always get it quick. The waiting times is for elective surgery, plastic surgery etc
Somanyquestions
Beer is mostly the same price in the US. 45 dollars is for a case of 48 beer.
skip2112
I always thought it was around 25 dollars lol it's been a while since I bought a case there
yummylittledinosaur
You know how much it costs everywhere else in the world? 0. Remind me what’s so great about America again?
aslowgiantfart
Supposedly we have gun rights, but they're only for white people to kill black people with
AnneFrankOnIce
Not having to wait 9 weeks to get something like a broken bone set.
Feralkyn
EU doesn't have wait times for shit like that. I don't like the UK's NHS--overworked system, lots of delays -there.- But the US isn't a
Feralkyn
better healthcare system even for those who -can- afford it. It's worse in a lot of respects, like medical mistakes and post-op infections.
Feralkyn
The only thing it's actually better than other countries in, is cancer treatment.
AndrewLBC
Oh it definitely costs there. 70% of your income in taxes, and far less freedom. There is a reason why the world wants to come here.
naytorin
Quite the active imagination you have there.
GenStrike
Freedom? What freedoms does the US have which are not present in, for instance, Canada?
SoberAndBored
70% ? What? UK: First £12,500 is tax free. £12,501 to £50,000 is 20%. £50,001 to £150,000 is 40%, anything over that is 45%.
taytothief
You have to be a certain kind of brain dead to defend a bill of almost $1 mill because you caught a virus that happens to be a pandemic
taytothief
“Far less freedom”. Our cops don’t shoot unarmed women on their fucking doorsteps. You’re dumb man, and you’re part of the problem
Feralkyn
The world does not want to go to America. The world thinks it's a trainwreck in action. The EU, Canada, Australia, all have more "freedom."
DatDarthCaedus
Am Swedish, paid equal to 15USD for my latest doctor visit after I had fainted thrice in a short period. This included everything 1/2
DatDarthCaedus
related to the visit; meeting with the doctor, conducting several basic tests (blood pressure and a bunch of other things), leaving 2/3
DatDarthCaedus
blood samples, having them analyzed for various things, a follow-up meeting with the doctor to discuss the results... he even asked 3/4
DatDarthCaedus
if I wanted a brain scan just to make sure, but I declined (which my dad thought was stupid because "why not, when you get the chance"). 4/5
DatDarthCaedus
Overall wait time was around 10 days I think.
phBalanced
If dying wasn't enough of a reason for you people to wear masks and wash your hands, I hope this will encourage you.
RisingPhoenix92
It doesnt stop some people from playing with guns or explosives. Always wondered how they pay for it
ragazzasporca
This can’t be the whole story
sunyudai
It's bogus. I can find two sources - one's news1.news, which is an Israeli site and the other source is newsdio, which is a new...
sunyudai
site (~ 1 year old) which hides its registrations. Everything else is Chinese language.
ragazzasporca
Thank you.
Starhaven350
Orcajet
Cash or check?
osmbln
How can you not revolt against such a shit system?
AndrewLBC
Funny how you revolt over a lie. Dude died of heart problems, dude didn't have hands up, dont shoot. useful idiots.
IrishManD
And just to imagine, they had a candidate that was for universal healthcare and fucked that out the window
Curii
I know, its perplexing! Especially with CV19. It's like "here is the answer to your problems". Answer: "Nope! More Trump"
kaizervonmaanen
Vote for someone who wants to change it. Americans prefer how things are however and will vote against anyone who want to change it.
allysuzumiya
When we "revolt" through pushing for bills to be passed, our President calls them weak. When we protest we get called thugs.
somedudeyoumightknow
Burn the rich instead of looting any stores you find
AndrewLBC
Come get some. Me and my AR15 are waiting. I'll make sure to pop the guy i might know first.
somedudeyoumightknow
This dude thinks he's rich
thanatos777
Because Americans fucking love the taste of boot.
Beepity
These posts are made under the hypothetical assumption that that is the correct thing to do. From a logistics standpoint, the 1/2
Beepity
population density of most of the US is pretty low, so it's difficult to get a critical mass together to actually begin one, for starters2/2
Beepity
I could go on, but frankly if the logistics don't work out the rest is all a non-starter...even assuming revolution is the correct answer3/2
torokunai
40% of the country literally have shit for brains
AndrewLBC
Which is why they're rioting and burning down black neighborhoods. Gotta keep them on the goverrnment plantation i guess.
Pentjotal
You're gonna miss you'r KKK meeting
Rectaldestroyer
Because in reality they pay a small fraction of that amount, and the trade-off is getting the best care in the world.
Blud4BludGod
A shit load of Americans die or are permanently effected by preventable illness every year, because they can't afford care until it is...
Blud4BludGod
...forced on them by a medical emergency. How much are they benefiting from "the best care in the world?"
Rectaldestroyer
99.994%
Xenomania
We've been told public healthcare is bad and Canadians envy our system. I'm serious.
FerbErrger
Canuck, living "here" and the US healthcare system is terrifying. More fear from this than my daughter getting shot at school, race riots...
StarvedDemon
I'm Canadian & my 19yr old nephew plays xbox with a group of Americans his age. So many conversations like this. Yesterday it was ~
StarvedDemon
"Canadians have such a long wait time, you have to wait weeks just for a broken bone!" No. No we do not. Hours. We wait a few hours. But ~
StarvedDemon
They refused to believe an actual Canadian & instead believe the propaganda.
OtterlyMagnificent
Because there isn't a lot we CAN do. Any fixes we want, get pushed to the government and the corrupt rich, and they decide 'Nope, we want 1/
friendsofsandwiches
Mitch is sitting on god knows how many bills that might deal with this shit. Anything benificial to ANYONE and he fucking turtles them.
OtterlyMagnificent
Vote him out then
friendsofsandwiches
he in kentucky. He's also brought home TONS of bacon(aka: earmarks), but that said, he's facing stiff competition from a girl, former milit
OtterlyMagnificent
Well, vote her in. The government is supposed to serve the people.
OtterlyMagnificent
more money, so you can't have a price decrease'2/2
Doomgriever
TheredBeImgurians
I really don't get why America is called "free" (well you are free to pay) and also why Americans stay in America. So many better choices.
Jubetsu
I think it had something to do with when they became free of british power. Hard not to take it as a joke nowadays
Feralkyn
Not super easy to move elsewhere, both due to money and legal.
themarc431
Richest country and biggest economy in the world and this is the reward for its citizens. Jesus H Christ.
Jubetsu
Richest country?
themarc431
I believe so but I’m prepared to be proven wrong.
Jubetsu
i'm googling 8th to 12th deoending on source
themarc431
I wonder how many that are ranked better have universal healthcare.
Jubetsu
USA is the total richest, i was looking at per capita. My bad. But from those countries at least half have universal healthcare
DatDarthCaedus
Saddest part is that multiple studies show that the US would save MASSIVE amounts of money by switching to another system.
AmoAmasAmant
Shit, your health system is fucked!
Jrhoney
Yep, it's fucked and needs to be scrapped.
DSouthflower
Seems like the whole country is fucked atm
99percentofpeoplearestupid
Nah Muricans is the greatest country in the world (lol)
ColClone54
The #1 reason for personal bankruptcy in the US is medical debt. Over 75% of those do have medical insurance. Fucked is a polite term.
philosoraptopterodactyl
I have health insurance through my job, still would rather die than deal with the deductible and the co-pays.
FeathersPryx
Yeah but having a good health system would be socialism! And that's basically Nazism!
AWarningToOthers
Or worst, voting Democrat. /s
damnusernames
Shit, the whole country is fucked!
Cheddarthor90
As an American, can confirm our healthcare system is fucked.
LittleJellyBeanToes
Yup. I should have moved to Germany when I could have.
germanbratwurst
you still can :)
LittleJellyBeanToes
With a name like that, I am compelled to believe you.
Thesaulsurvivor
Everything here is fucked. We can't ever have anything nice.
KhajiitIsPleased
As an American, let me tell you, the whole goddamn place is fucked
Riddin
At this point it'd be easier to say what isn't fucked up... but nothing is coming to mind.
BannedbyastupidMod
If you where to count how many systems are fucked in the U.S. the health system would be 4th or 5th from the tip, Our systems, are, fucked.
PrinceSamaSanChanKun
ALMS! ALMS! FOR A MISERABLE WOMAAAAAAN!
GenXHippie
Our whole everything system is fucked.
WhoDoesntLoveWaffles
That's an understatement...
2old2behere
wEll At LeAsT wE don't hAvE socialist hEaLtHcARe
Ribaldrie
Richest country in the world, where if you get sick you die because you can't pay enough to live. America the Great!
Feralkyn
"Richest" by what metric, though? I'm pretty sure they're trillions in debt as a whole at this point
J1mmyMack
It's not the richest country, it is the largest economy because it has a large population, others are richer per capita.
pikkunalle
Norway is wayy more richer.
Ribaldrie
You're right, my point is we're fucked.
shieldmaiden714
Our Healthcare system, justice system, education, foster care...just about everything here is fucked.
SecondToNine
It's fine as long as you don't fall ill
AlmostClever
Or lose your job.
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
I can't name a single person who hasn't needed at least 1 hospital visit by the time they hit 50... so not much comfort
Eowyneb
A funeral would of cost less then being saved by Americans health system. Fuck this country why can’t we be better? ?
MrFish49
We know
doubleohslevin
This is how they got the furlough money are all those billion dollar companies.
SuprisedPikachuFace
The whole country is fucked
Ignition101
How is it solved though? Seems like the money train is too deep over there. An NHS system would get shot down before it reached your Senate.
Feralkyn
The entire system needs revising, one way or another. Price regulation has to occur before insurance is a viable option; meds and procedures
Feralkyn
can cost between 3-4x to 3000% what they do in other countries, so whether it's funded personally or via taxpayer/insurance, it's too much
Feralkyn
right now. But before that, lobbying has to go... and for that to happen, the politicians in power need to be replaced with those who'd
Feralkyn
allow that. It's a wreck.
WhatBackWaterCountry
Ditch the 2 party system. Get rid of the electoral college. Move from FPP to MMP.
Sage042000
Well spending our tax money on our healthcare instead of more bombs is socialism. What do you expect us to do?
FyestyBB
As an American....you have only seen just the tip of what we get fucked with.
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
Tell me something we don't know.
RobertSimpson213
My wife got covid in the states. The bill was $0. Dont believe everything you read.
Ditchencat
Aight. I won't believe you, then.
AmoAmasAmant
Everything I've heard about the US healthcare system makes it seem like it's deeply flawed. I'd love to hear a story that shows otherwise
Uknomad11
Haha it wasn't the US of A.! Probably the United States of Socialist Russia. Lmfao
ItsjustDog
Ohhh so fucked. If a woman wants to hold her baby after giving birth, there's a charge for that! It's called skin-to-skin, typically 50$.
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OriginalSyn
The charges we had here in Canada was ~$30 for parking and $180 for a private room for 2 1/2 days.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Which if you are covered by insurance will pay 80% of the room
worhan666
Wait, you get charged for skin to skin?!
worhan666
This is a basic necessity for the baby to be healthy! How can you charge additionally for that
vagimite
Imagine the price of corkage
BenderSaysNeat
Our healthcare system is all the fucked up, but my wife and I had two babies in hospitals here... No charge for skin to skin.
BenderSaysNeat
Not sure where you heard that we get charged for skin-to-skin...
ItsjustDog
Also there are about 15 news/blog articles about it. I'm surprised you haven't heard about it.
ItsjustDog
Best friend's medical bill, sister had to pay it 3 times. Maybe it's only certain hospitals, but that's 2 different hospitals in Kentucky.
Europhoric
I hope this isn't true. But I bet it is. Sick.
CPSTforfreeyippee
American mom of 4 here - can confirm it's true.
ItsjustDog
It's so true, I got charged 40$ for an ibuprophen when I dislocated a rib. Thought it was broken, but nope. Got a bill for 1300$ for an 1/2
ItsjustDog
x-ray and an ibuprophen. 2/2
CommentHijacker
Got charged $1400 for a 2.5 mile ambulance ride and $60 for a vitamin C pill
LegoStomper
I aspirated during an appendectomy- I was charged $12 for a single packaged generic cough drop.
mday8
How!? Just... how is anyone fine with this?
PurplePenguin87
We aren't, but as an individual, if you don't pay, you're fucked.
ItsjustDog
Not enough people know, plus the business lobby to congress too much. So congress gets a cut of our medical expenses. It's wack.
ThicclikePaulBunyan
I'm in Canada, one of my colleagues got sick with covid19. Total cost: 11.99$ for a 100 pack of Tylenol. All other treatments are covered.
sourcandy
I'm surprised they didnt give him a script for some to have that covered as well.
ThicclikePaulBunyan
All covered when you are hospitalized, but when they release you, you have to pay for over the counter medicine.
sourcandy
My doctors routinely give me prescription acetaminophen and ibuprofen so that I don't have to pay for it
hiddenshadowsniffer
??
Imademyselfsquirtle
I got tested twice. $0.00. Had it been the US, I would have had to pay probably the DR salary.
punnyusername
Damn, that’s a lot of money for 100 Tylenol.
GenevaCat
It's Canada. Our 1 CAD is like 1,239.39 USD. :( he got a on that Tylenol tbh.
VillainVillain
Im so thinking about moving, but ive already moved here from a different country and ugh, doing it all over again
VillainVillain
Im just, im so confused as to why we cant do that, feick people who wanna make money selling drugs dude, they shouldnt be in it
cubicleinmate
Besides the cold, what’s the downside of Canada? Wondering if BC is in my future.
TheDarkNerd
Washington state and BC aren't that different, climate-wise.
AdelesEx
BC doesnt get that cold if thats your concern. Mild winters. Unless you go mountainside obviously
ThicclikePaulBunyan
Sometime, you have to dropkick a polar bear so he doesn't eat your dog.
KiyaSeraphia
Acceptable trade off. Here I was worried about moose riding Canada Geese. Where do I sign up?
Wintersucks
Montrealer here. Me and my dad both got infected with covid19 he was in icu, but were both at home now and all we paid for is the ambulance
Divided181
Yea but that ambulance would be severely thousand here in the states
ThicclikePaulBunyan
275$ plus tax here in Montreal.
J1mmyMack
You had to pay for an ambulance??
Wintersucks
Yeah its how it is quebec
ShelterSkelterpanananananana
Except when you are above 65, in Québec that is.
irunadoggiedaycare
Riding an ambulance in US costs like at least $3k... How much for you?
Goodec
Zero in UK, we have a functional healthcare system.
ThicclikePaulBunyan
275$, last time i checked.
irunadoggiedaycare
Indeed
123a456e
In Ontario, my Papa had a stroke & we called an ambulance 2 weeks ago. Charged $45
youcantdisappointapicture
Well you can take your universal health care and basic human decency and you can just go and... please share it with us... we are dying
ThicclikePaulBunyan
Easy, ask your state to secede from the US, then all we need is you asking to get in the Canadian confederacy, we gonna accept it.
mastertang
"Easy"
ThicclikePaulBunyan
Easier than abolishing segregation.
GenesisNynja
Literally dying.
RunThatIn
pls hlp
Sulanis
Tell your people to stop voting corporate cock sucking sociopaths, and vote in people that actually give a shit.
RunThatIn
We got two choices for president and they’re kinda the same person. It’s difficult
Whalegod
Trust me, it might be better than Trump, but cuckdeau is an embarassment. Passed illegal bills under emergency to name one
RunThatIn
I hope you realize how ridiculous you sound when you say cuckdeau. If you’re gonna make a portmanteau of the mans name, be creative at least
Whalegod
He's corrupt. Blatant disregard for the laws. He never stands up for his country. He's a cuck. What would you have me call him?
ThicclikePaulBunyan
He didn't made that name up, his propaganda supervisor did.
SinProblemRunner
Shit, their whole economic system is fucked.
BunnyGoesHopHop
Shit, our everything is fucked.
PoorlyContrivedUsername
Yeah, but once the virus impact has worn off, it’ll be back in the top portion of the world economy. So, enjoy it for now.
ShrubNinja
As long as we keep measuring the economy by how well the rich elite are doing and not how fucked the rest of us are.
PoorlyContrivedUsername
The rich are always doing well. Ignores the fact that wages were rising from the bottom up.
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
Yeah. Capitalism baby.
ScorpionSage
That it is
Mctestecles
One rich/child-of-rich/believer-in-one-day-being-rich person didn't like that. Everything is fine don't you know.
OuchMouse
No it’s not! As long as we keep giving big banks and corporations tax breaks and trillion dollar bailouts it’ll all work out, u commie! /s
fuckbeans
I won't lie, ours is. We can do better...but we're so racially/economically/culturally fractured I dont know how we come back from this...
jobe
Dont forget their political system, and trust of police, both also fucked
CaptainTycho
Their whole countrys fucked
Zarf42
Great BBQ tho
angusbblack
Its all we CAN do right, well, that and making the whole world laugh at us
wallyparadise
There isn’t a single “health system.” There are many providers and payers. If the situation above were normal, it wouldn’t have made news.
InsertNameHereIGuess
The situation above should not exist. Not in any country, let alone a rich one like the US.
FlissFloss86Gaming
Dude...this kind of thing happens every day in America. Medical bills are the #1 cause of bankruptcy. Even WITH insurance
chaos021
Say wha? Crippling medical debt is one of the top ways people lose everything in the US (via bankruptcy).
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Might not be normal, but even a single case of the situation above is one too many. I mean, are you Seriously defending that shit?
PervHunter
We're trained to love how terribly we're treated. Some of us woke up, though.
wallyparadise
I’m saying it’s an obvious fuckup, not an encapsulation of some mythical, monolithic, 300-million-person “health system”
PervHunter
5k for a single night in the hospital for me when I had a heart issue.
Feralkyn
I doubt that's a fuckup. It happens all the time, hundreds of thousands even into a million bucks for medical bills.