Does this make me a horrible person...?

Jun 1, 2017 2:42 AM

MagnusMan

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No...you're good. I can understand the fear. I cannot say what I would do in that kind of situation. I like to believe I'd love them...

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

My sister is legit retarded and I can't even handle a retarded sibling. It just wears you out, and I have my own problems I barely handle.

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

I don't think it makes you a horrible person. It's a big responsibility and it is a burden, they just have to make the most of it though.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

All kids are retarded. Some are just really retarded.

9 years ago | Likes 101 Dislikes 8

But then they grow up and aren't retarded... A bit different

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have a brother on the spectrum it has caused a lot of disconnect, I don't think my parents handled it well and that reflects on me

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

I imagine it's difficult.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I am/was the "retarded kid" and boy I understand your fear. Autism + anxiety disorders + ADHD here. My mum got a burn-out and depression

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Ditto. I'm sure I'd love them but a severely mentally handicapped child... Ugh

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 5

Unfortunately, i couldn't agree more, imo, i think it's a waste of human life to put someone through torture everyday and not a normal life

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 3

Right. Like it's fucked up to say, but that is what it is. A burden, that no one should have to deal with.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

@OP I have a "retarded" brother. Its awful and a huge burden on my entire family. I wish he was never born in the most compassionate way

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I have the same fear. I dont know if I could live with a disabled child. It destroys everything.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is normal. You never know, it will break a person. I used to take care of kids like this for a living.

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

It's actually a completely valid concern. Anyone who says otherwise is either horribly naïve or lying.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It was my worst fear too. My boy is healthy has no disability, but I realized that I would have loved him just the same if he was disabled.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

As painful as the decision would be, my wife and I agreed we would not go through with the pregnancy should that be the case.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The idea scared me to death, boys both since been diagnosed with autism, and I'm scared to death now - that said, I love them more than life

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

As someone who risks having a child who is autistic (Like myself) NOOOPE if I want a kid, i'll adopt.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

as someone who think's it'd selfish too put more strain on the planet becouse i want a child that looks like me, same

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

THIS! The amount of waste one human creates (in certain cultures) is tremendous.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My worst fear is having children.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Guys, if you see no kids in your future, get a vasectomy. I am 30 years old and got one two years ago and it was the best decision I ever.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Made...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm more worried about an STD than kids but I guess a kid is the ultimate STD.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Remove the word "retarded" and it's an equally valid meme

9 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 18

I have kids. And this is the best thing happened in my life.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 10

Thank you

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I laughed. Thanks.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have an autistic kid. I still shake in my boots and feel for people WHO'S kids have CP and Downs.

9 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 3

I don't know what CP is referring to in this context and I refuse to Google 'cp'. Anybody help a brotha out?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Cerebral palsy.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Brother has CP. I'm up at night sometimes, thinking about the future. I can't even imagine my parents' sleepless nights.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

As someone with autism, what level of autism are we talking about here? It kind of comes in a lot of varieties.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

I consider myself lucky, but he's not one of those high functioning talented ones. He is non-verbal. His diagnosis is PDD-NOS.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

My son has cp but its actually pretty mild;no mental disability,he's in regular hs classes.work with the dd&know how bad it can be

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You are blessed.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Thanks!now if I can only get him to keep his room clean!????

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Haha. That's all us parents.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I'm just not interested in having children. I don't wanna weigh myself down and not be able to fully enjoy life. Is that dumb?

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

As a mother of a toddler, that isn't dumb at all. I love my kid but life was a lot different before I had her. You lose a lot of freedom.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Your life, your reasoning. Doesn't need to make sense to anyone else

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But he could become president or a Republican!

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 20

That's a terrible thing to say because it covfefe

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My wife was 38 when we had our first kid, and 41 when we had our second. Statistically, we were at the highest risk...I lost a lot of sleep

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

Sis had a kid at 42 and was constantly reminded a "geriatric pregnancy" has many such risks. They were worried, but it worked out okay.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

My wife was exactly the same age for both of ours. so "same here" for all of that.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Mental illness on both sides. His parents expect we'll take over care of their capable but utterly spoiled bipolar adult kid. Not happening

9 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 5

Great job burning Bipolars with your sarcastic post!

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 5

They didn't burn bipolars they were specifically talking about 1 person. Way to generalize and be a dick.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Seriously? Bipolar disorder can be treated. Plenty of adults live on their own and are completely independent with it.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

They could have autism/down and also be bipolar.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

To clarify: sib in law is high functioning CAN be an adult- plays parents like a cheap violin (one parent feels illness is "their fault")2/3

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They clean sib's house, pay his bills, finance his leaving jobs he is merely tired of, bought him a condo,let him delay 3/4

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Family dinners/events because "He's having a hard time getting up today", plan traveling around him...seriously. 4/5

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I didn't get married to be handed someone else's spoiled perma-teenager to parent as my retirement. 5/5

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

During my pregnancy, there was some concern that my daughter would have Down syndrome. I was TERRIFIED & felt like such a bitch (1/)

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

No judgement. When we found out after birth that my daughter has DS I cried for a week. But she's actually wonderful and pretty normal.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That means a lot. I know I would have been okay but it was incredible scary to contemplate.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I didn't know how I would cope. I wasn't sure how to handle it. I couldn't share my feelings b/c I knew people would judge me harshly. (2/)

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

For the last 20 weeks, I just worried and cried when I was alone. I told everyone they couldn't be there at the birth (3/)

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

While in labor, hubby finally admits how he feels (just like I feel). Our sweet daughter was born --perfectly normal. No Down syndrome. (4/)

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I was so happy and so relieved, but I felt like a shitty person. I felt like I wouldn't have loved her as much. (5/)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But I do firmly believe that parents of disabled children are saints. It is a very hard life they have been given. (6/6)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I chose to have an autistic child (married his dad) and it's really hard. Emotionally and financially. And it won't end when he's 18.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I thought you meant you had an autistic child who then somehow had a gay wedding with his father like some fucked up Adam Sandler movie.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And you don't magically become someone who can parent a special needs child. Some parents adapt well and some don't.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Plus, there is only so much help out there. Your fear is definitely legitimate. And it's good that you can recognize it now.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Truth. Everyone is thinking it. Not everyone will admit this.

9 years ago | Likes 873 Dislikes 22

There shouldn't be any shame in not wanting your child to have a life-limiting disability. That's BECAUSE you love them, not lack of love.

9 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 1

I think they are saying they don't want to deal with a special needs child for selfish reasons. Nothing wrong with that either IMO.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

My biggest fear when I was pregnant. My son wasn't on purpose. But I did/do everything for him. No matter what. He's fine tho

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No, people would admit it. This is one of those things people like to pretend others don't say to be edgy

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 7

Was afraid but not too much - ready to deal with this. Not happened.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

except maybe retards. then, i'm not sure many of them are thinking of having kids.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

I'll admit it, I'd probably go for abortion if I knew my kids was mentally impaired. I feel I couldn't give the child a life they 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

They deserve, I wouldn't be emotionally strong enough to live that life. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

Well lets just hope that their father would be strong enough. We deserve just as much a chance at life as anyone. We might not even 1/

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 10

2/ really notice our disadvantage until someone points it out. So, really, we're not out much...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 6

Even if they were severely mentally impaired and required round the clock care? That's no life for a child.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This "we" you are using is ridiculous. Do not group yourself with those who can barely breathe on their own let alone act like a cock online

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You dont speak for everyone.

9 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 149

I'm sorry you got downvoted. I agree with you.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 17

I dont care what these self involved trust fund kids think. They can barely look up from their phone let alone form coherent thoughts.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 17

You can't even give out a valid argument and resort to pity insults. Pretty sure you're the self involved one here

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Oh. Sorry. Did I "trigger" you?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

I get that you might not see it as "awful," but do you really not have any negative feelings about the prospect at all? None?

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

It would be a huge struggle but what part of life worth living isnt? we dont know what the future holds for developmentally challenged kids.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 26

To abort them because a doctor says some percentage? No thanks.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 29

You're right, there are people out there who furiously wish their children come out disabled and are bitterly disappointed when they don't.

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

You realize the argument he's making is that not *everyone* thinks it is awful and is their worst fear... right?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

And people who don't care either way.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I can honestly say I've never met anyone who didn't care that their child was disabled. They deal with it and carry on, but they still care.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your parents must have been pleased then.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 21

You're a pretty bitter cunt it seems, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not always an asshole.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

No Im always an asshole to people who thonk "retards"should die. You go on ahead and pretend you even know what cunt is.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Failing to understand that's the argument you're making, I see.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Thats questionable considering your diagnosis.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 15

Depressed a whole pregnancy when they said she was showing common deformities. I'm not a strong person. She came out healthy as heck though.

9 years ago | Likes 104 Dislikes 1

Thankfully these fuckers here werent in charge of the decision.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 27

and congrats!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

How healthy is "heck" exactly?

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

She's got all her digits and no deformities, in/external, she has blue eyes (neither of us parents got blue eyes), healthy as an ox!

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Blue is recessive, maybe both of you have a grandparent with blue eyes?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The eye color of the baby may change to what's similar to the baby's parents

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

But that just raised the question of how healthy an ox is.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Glad to heal everything went according to plan...If there was a plan.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She went septic after they began treating her for an infection, she had a slightly off white blood cell count. Two weeks later - GOLDEN!

9 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Im no doctor but if a child turned into a golden colour I'd be worried

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jaundice?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah Einstein, Jaundice!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a sibling to retarded children, it's a legitimate fear. The issue is: most are not detectable before birth.

9 years ago | Likes 312 Dislikes 6

They aren't? I thought it was the opposite and that a lot of parents chose to go through with birth anywys

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

You can catch certain things, but often diseases are not able to be diagnosed until kids start missing development milestones.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As an autistic person myself, I don't want kids if they'll even have a chance of ending up like me.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

YES. Sister has autism. I do not want to go through special needs childhood stuff again. IDK if that makes me awful

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

same

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a nephew to an aunt that lived with downs for 54+ years... I don't believe you have "retarded" siblings...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 22

The PC commissars have no power here.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Both siblings have Fragile X syndrome. 20+ years study and testing at UC Davis, paired with a medical diagnosis. They're retarded.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My aunt has significant mental retardation due to oxygen deprivation at birth.

9 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 0

Mine too

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Aw geez, Rick - I'm not sure you can use that word

9 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 3

I didn't mean to offend the mentally handicapped morty

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Hmm. I'm close to relevant.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well in all fairness I don't remember the line 100%

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, i guess not :(

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Does she have the common mongoloid physical feature? (I'm not sure how to phrased this without sounding ravist )

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

No, she has normal adult bone structure but the facial expressions she uses are closer to that of a 5 year old child.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You sort of succeeded, in that you sounded like a medically-illiterate chimpanzee instead.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Ur thinking of down syndrome, facial features don't usually give evidence of mental retardation

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, this is wrong, many things are detectable before birth. Source: I've been pregnant twice, they run all kinds of tests.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 8

Not all CAN be caught before birth. Yeah there's test but they don't catch all. Source: UC Davis MIND Institute, they focus on this issue.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Right, I was never disputing that, merely stating that it's not true that "most" can't be detected

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

A majority of mental and behavioral disorders are not picked up until AFTER a child misses growth milestones. See above source.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Many of those milestones are reached while the fetus is still in utero. There are many disorders detectable in the womb, and many after

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

A friend of mine has a SEVERELY disabled child. They ran all sorts of tests on her too. Didn't catch it.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Many defects they can't declare conclusively, but they'll give odds based on observations and measurements.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

You're absolutely right; they can't catch everything.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

They'll run genetic testing if you or the father carry genetic diseases and give you options. Source: OBGYN clinic

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Not all can be caught with testing in the womb, source UC Davis MIND Institute, they focus on this specific issue because of that.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ummm neither me nor my husband carry genetic diseases, but they still screened for basic disorders. I did have to request it though.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yep, a lot of patients don't know if they carry any genetic disorders and some dont even t ask for testing. (1)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(2) Many think the testing will automatically be done. Always ask!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It makes you a stronger person, ask your parents about it, they'd know.

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Everytime I see this, 'WTF?!'

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Some weird but on the Weird Al show

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Pretty sure like 9 articles of the Geneva Convention were just violated.

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Crucified

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No survivors

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Savage

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Yessss

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This is one of the best roast I've seen wow

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Dat username

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hello 911 i just witnessed a fucking murder

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I'm upvoting this post just so more people see this comment

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 5

I was going to comment, but after this I feel like all my future comments are invalid

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

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9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 3

If I could double upvote I would. This was savage.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

I was hoping someone would call op out on using the word retard but this was much better. +1 hope to see this get more votes than post

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https://imgur.com/9TfsfKg nein survivors

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I don't know, this is a pretty insensitive comment. Don't have to shame someone for admitting they might not be able to handle it.

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best burns i read on imgur.

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Buuuurrrrn

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Damn...

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B.u.r.n.

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Ayy wrecked em mate!!

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So retarded and a faggot then?

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Savage.

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You already heard it from 20+ imgurians, but +1. I'm still icing my ears from that burn.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

This... I can finally put my phone down and go to bed.

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HA!!!!BURN!!!!!!!

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Burn

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@ultimatecumdumpster right now

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so cold Op just died from hypothermia

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Incidentally also such a heavy burn there's nothing left but ashes.

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*shivers*

9 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Ouch

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You're retarded. You can't comprehend pain, stop appropriating non-retarded culture.

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9 years ago | Likes 155 Dislikes 1

Thanks. I really needed it.

9 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 1

It's okay buck-a-roo you get back in there. You're doing fine.

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@SavageMeter

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That's a 68/67 rating. Yes, 1 extra point

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Downs Syndrome is easy to detect nowadays if you get the fetus/embryo tested. I suggest abortion. Better to not be born retarded, -

9 years ago | Likes 171 Dislikes 22

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/opinion/the-truth-about-down-syndrome.html Downs is a positive for family happiness on average.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 11

Unfortunately, Downs is not the only defect that leads to mental problems.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Have you ever been around anyone with Down Syndrome? Many live a happy life.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 10

Why is this getting down voted??

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because these people don't realise that when you become a parent it isn't about you anymore.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And they're more intelligent than you'd think. My daughter w DS is 2. Speaks to me in sign and is potty training herself.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But there are degrees of the effect. Look at Tim of Tim's Place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6He0FWoFj0

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Can the tests tell how profoundly a particular foetus will be affected?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tim is a great guy but he doesn't actually manage the restaurant.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

True, but he's an example of a well-known high-functioning retarded person. That's the only reason I picked hem.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

- than live a life as a permanent 5 year old who will likely outlive their parents, and become a ward of the state, and die alone.

9 years ago | Likes 138 Dislikes 13

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Some. But don't get yourself by thinking all of them are.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

kid*

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

100% - it is a tough decision but should definitely be done

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

3 could extrapolate that idea onto all sorts of people who will have " worse" lives than we might.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 7

2 are some if the happiest people I know. You don't kill potential life based on what you think their life will be like; otherwise, you

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 8

People shouldn't be forced to be parents. If you don't want to raise a disabled child then dont & don't shame those who make that choice.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I don't think we really have the right to judge someone else's happiness or level of life. I work with kids with down syndrome and they 1

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 8

Yeah...this is the opinion socially acceptable today. What a shitty world

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You do you

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

My cousin got a test for down syndrome done and it came out positive. They decided to have the baby and had a perfectly normal child.

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I would rather abort than risk it. To each their own.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

So.. their mutated chromosome just went away before birth?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

more likely a false positive on the test. Orrr he's lying. who knows

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Whatever test it was a false positive. I'm not saying human error wasn't involved, just saying what happenned.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

You think people would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?

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I heard somewhere that most downies and other varieties of tard don't generally live that long. Like 40's. Don't kmow if it's true.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 7

The average has gone up to about 60s. Still not great. Apparently leukemia is also more common in children with downs.

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Upvoting for the knowledge not because I'm evil

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Mostly true. You won't see many old ones. Living like a 5 year old forever takes a toll and there's a predisposition for other issues.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Even if they do. 40 years is a long time. If you have a kid past 30, it goes til the parent is in their 70s. Lots of ppl die before that.

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the tests are not 100% accurate, and people with down syndrome often do have happy lives, even jobs. it's hard for the parents, but (1/2)

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you can't really assume it's not a livable life. (2/2)

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 8

A livable life, yes. But one with constant support from their parents. You never get an end date to when your kids can be on their own.

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Maybe, but it's a legitimate concern. Not everyone's prepared for it. It's good to start asking yourself now before it comes up.

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I want to be a mom and have a lot of eager family but this scares me shitless. Mom was a parapro and I've seen the work it takes 1/2

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Not to mention the financial and emotional toll as well.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The emotional and mental toll are the things that truly can shatter a family. Not just the parents, but also the other kids.

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This has always been my worst fear as long as I can remember. I've never told anyone, even people I care about/trust who ask seriously

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I thought this was another BS post where OP clarifies that they actually meant something silly and harmless. But no OP meant it. +1

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a parent of a beautiful boy who has autism and is almost 7, most of these comments make me want to throw up. These are the reasons why 1/

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 29

Children with CP, Asperger's, Down's, or anybody on the spectrum will always be fighting an uphill battle. There's so many small minded /2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 30

People in the world who spread this view just because they're "scared raising their kid would be harder". News flash, raising children /3

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 28

Is a challenge regardless, one which most of you don't sound up to anyways. To choose to prevent a life because it's not convenient enough/4

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 26

Of a circumstance for you to raise them then you might as well not partake in populating our planet anyways. No child, "retarded" or not, /5

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 24

Your path isn't everyone's path. I have a child with a severe learning disbility. He's my treasure. I'd take it away from him tomorrow 1/

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

If I could. Not bc he isn't amazing. But bc I see how difficult his life is. And it is hard. It's ok to want "normal". But, 2/

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Being not normal is pretty freaking awesome. Sometimes you don't know that until you've been thrown in it.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I worked with ED/LD kids. My friend worked with severe and profound handicapped children. Neither of us wanted to do the other's job,

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I mean no offense, but you go home. You are done after work with them. Your entire life isn't about planning for them and around them. >

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I was making the point that not all people are cut out to do all things and there is no shame in accepting that.

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I don't mean to devalue your work. The world desperately needs more people like you and your friend. However it is hardly the same to work >

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

with those kids and have one of your own. Mentally it is a whole different burden. Fear, anxiety, doubt, loss of hope. It can be hard. End.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Yes, but there is support for parents. They just need to seek it out and ask for it.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The do blood tests at 10wks to make sure the fetus is developing properly. If it isn't they give you your options.

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

They offered us tests at 20wks with options then as well.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Unless you're in a state where the doctors are allowed to lie to you about it to discourage abortion. See Texas sb 25.

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Are you serious? ?? That blows dogs for quarters. MO doctors encourage to abort those babies.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

As a med student: English is my second language. Can someone translate Texas sb 25?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It prevents parents from suing doctors who intentionally withhold information about fetal deformities if they think the parents would abort.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ar okay, thanks. This is most certainly a violation of the four principles of ethnic, but good thing it is only law we are talking about.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What the fuck, that's horseshit

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Better yet at the same time the state is getting sued for artificially capping special needs education costs but not allowing diagnosis

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Who the heck prepares to have a special needs kid?

9 years ago | Likes 70 Dislikes 7

Adults, adults prepare for the possibility of a special needs child when they discuss having kids...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Anyone with a known increased risk of having one. Also anyone having a baby usually prepares themselves for the possibility

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Before deciding to try for a baby you go through a checklist of situations and how you and your partner would handle them before going on

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That way if one person has a fear like this can you both realize a baby probably isn't what you're ready for or you're not compatible

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Couples who had testing done before the baby was born and we're told the child would be special needs, it's an unfortunate truth.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

Metally, everyone should.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Mentally*

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People that adopt, foster etc.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Siblings.

9 years ago | Likes 99 Dislikes 0

So much this. My dear brother-in-law is pretty independent now, but it's like having a teenager away at college forever. We're lucky.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bro can be fairly annoying, and he often needs support, like having things neurotypical people consider basic explained. Panics sometimes.

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But he's a hard worker, just about the hardest I know, and he's not stupid, just a little cognitively and socially off-spec.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thats a underrated comment contender. Bravo

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I had to do a double take.. +1 and thanks for the laugh! :D

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You're right about that. My friend has a soevial needs sibling, I grew up with him, he couldn't understand many things nor converse,

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

parent poster meant siblings who are planning on having a baby. together.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

He'd make noises in the middle of some words and it was hard to understand him, the doctors didn't know what he had. I wonder how he's doing

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I know I wouldn't be able to deal with a child who will never be independent. It will change your life too radically. It's ok to not want it

9 years ago | Likes 194 Dislikes 1

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No.

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Well, there are homes and programs for adult care for developmently delayed people. Sounds mean, but sometimes it's for the best.

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Well, for someone like me whose disability is a mental illness, there are no resources. You're just stuck with them.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And can be genetic too. Bipolar, autism,l and psychosis spectrum are inheritable...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

None of them are strongly correlated with genetic factors. PTSD, post-partum depression and DID all have environmental causes.

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It's not always possible to avoid but terminating pregnancies based on screening is possible most of the time. I have some genetic diseases

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This brings me a great deal of relief. I wouldn't feel right bringing a person into this world at a disadvantage.

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I wish I was never born and these days I almost desire death

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I'm just putting it out there, because everyone thinks they are the special snowflake whose kid is gonna excell no matter what... Hmm nope

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There there

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm not a fan of abortions but I don't know how you could knowingly bring a person into the world where they're severely handicapped. 1/2

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Some people are so against abortion that they wud willingly bring a handicapped child to this world.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Or bear a child in the worst time possible and with the shittiest of partners

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I find it's a sacrifice based on what you believe VS bringing up someone trapped in an existence they might hate. And ultimately not deserve

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Plus your body is totally 100% pro abortion given that 40% of all pregnancies are terminated by your own body before the 2nd month. Women

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 1

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9 years ago (deleted Jun 1, 2017 9:27 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Why is this getting downvoted? Lol

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is it really so bad to relieve someone's pain? That's the way I'd look at it, if my kid had some genetic defect that was going to cause ~

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them to be in constant pain, or not have any quality of life...

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Around half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously,

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occur during the first trimester.About 30% to 40% of all fertilized eggs miscarry, often before the pregnancy is known.

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Read UNder causes, you will find the info you want

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