Jun 1, 2017 2:42 AM
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vinny8boberano
No...you're good. I can understand the fear. I cannot say what I would do in that kind of situation. I like to believe I'd love them...
P51VoxelTanker
My sister is legit retarded and I can't even handle a retarded sibling. It just wears you out, and I have my own problems I barely handle.
chooseday
I don't think it makes you a horrible person. It's a big responsibility and it is a burden, they just have to make the most of it though.
NebinEsquire
All kids are retarded. Some are just really retarded.
kspainho
But then they grow up and aren't retarded... A bit different
memepolice420
I have a brother on the spectrum it has caused a lot of disconnect, I don't think my parents handled it well and that reflects on me
astrangehop
I imagine it's difficult.
ImADoctorNotAnImgurian
I am/was the "retarded kid" and boy I understand your fear. Autism + anxiety disorders + ADHD here. My mum got a burn-out and depression
NickBlight
Ditto. I'm sure I'd love them but a severely mentally handicapped child... Ugh
jambolian
Unfortunately, i couldn't agree more, imo, i think it's a waste of human life to put someone through torture everyday and not a normal life
CatBlaster5000
Right. Like it's fucked up to say, but that is what it is. A burden, that no one should have to deal with.
OverpricedCrayon
@OP I have a "retarded" brother. Its awful and a huge burden on my entire family. I wish he was never born in the most compassionate way
I have the same fear. I dont know if I could live with a disabled child. It destroys everything.
sweetheartzerosyou
This is normal. You never know, it will break a person. I used to take care of kids like this for a living.
Tinkrr
It's actually a completely valid concern. Anyone who says otherwise is either horribly naïve or lying.
doomscrollerextroadinaire
It was my worst fear too. My boy is healthy has no disability, but I realized that I would have loved him just the same if he was disabled.
YesPleaseSomeMore
As painful as the decision would be, my wife and I agreed we would not go through with the pregnancy should that be the case.
Ipostwhilehigh
The idea scared me to death, boys both since been diagnosed with autism, and I'm scared to death now - that said, I love them more than life
Theman098
As someone who risks having a child who is autistic (Like myself) NOOOPE if I want a kid, i'll adopt.
FindusSomKatten
as someone who think's it'd selfish too put more strain on the planet becouse i want a child that looks like me, same
SimpleManComplexMind
THIS! The amount of waste one human creates (in certain cultures) is tremendous.
JohmBambo
My worst fear is having children.
foolhollow
Guys, if you see no kids in your future, get a vasectomy. I am 30 years old and got one two years ago and it was the best decision I ever.
Made...
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
I'm more worried about an STD than kids but I guess a kid is the ultimate STD.
LowercaseG
Remove the word "retarded" and it's an equally valid meme
AzgarOgly
I have kids. And this is the best thing happened in my life.
Chandler920
Thank you
Kalid19
I laughed. Thanks.
Pegamaroll
I have an autistic kid. I still shake in my boots and feel for people WHO'S kids have CP and Downs.
ahotpotato
I don't know what CP is referring to in this context and I refuse to Google 'cp'. Anybody help a brotha out?
lajodla
Cerebral palsy.
GoogleFucker
Brother has CP. I'm up at night sometimes, thinking about the future. I can't even imagine my parents' sleepless nights.
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
As someone with autism, what level of autism are we talking about here? It kind of comes in a lot of varieties.
I consider myself lucky, but he's not one of those high functioning talented ones. He is non-verbal. His diagnosis is PDD-NOS.
sugarmagnolia73
My son has cp but its actually pretty mild;no mental disability,he's in regular hs classes.work with the dd&know how bad it can be
You are blessed.
Thanks!now if I can only get him to keep his room clean!????
Haha. That's all us parents.
HoeSkank
I'm just not interested in having children. I don't wanna weigh myself down and not be able to fully enjoy life. Is that dumb?
5am13
As a mother of a toddler, that isn't dumb at all. I love my kid but life was a lot different before I had her. You lose a lot of freedom.
Gmayor61
No.
Your life, your reasoning. Doesn't need to make sense to anyone else
NR97420
But he could become president or a Republican!
ultradongle
That's a terrible thing to say because it covfefe
kashmoney02
darkdoom001
My wife was 38 when we had our first kid, and 41 when we had our second. Statistically, we were at the highest risk...I lost a lot of sleep
cainoh
Sis had a kid at 42 and was constantly reminded a "geriatric pregnancy" has many such risks. They were worried, but it worked out okay.
MyMothersNotAThiefButYouShouldSeeHerSnatch
My wife was exactly the same age for both of ours. so "same here" for all of that.
Zootsoot
Mental illness on both sides. His parents expect we'll take over care of their capable but utterly spoiled bipolar adult kid. Not happening
Great job burning Bipolars with your sarcastic post!
Illthinkofausernamelater
They didn't burn bipolars they were specifically talking about 1 person. Way to generalize and be a dick.
Seriously? Bipolar disorder can be treated. Plenty of adults live on their own and are completely independent with it.
JanetVanDyne
They could have autism/down and also be bipolar.
To clarify: sib in law is high functioning CAN be an adult- plays parents like a cheap violin (one parent feels illness is "their fault")2/3
They clean sib's house, pay his bills, finance his leaving jobs he is merely tired of, bought him a condo,let him delay 3/4
Family dinners/events because "He's having a hard time getting up today", plan traveling around him...seriously. 4/5
I didn't get married to be handed someone else's spoiled perma-teenager to parent as my retirement. 5/5
ImNotDoneYet
During my pregnancy, there was some concern that my daughter would have Down syndrome. I was TERRIFIED & felt like such a bitch (1/)
No judgement. When we found out after birth that my daughter has DS I cried for a week. But she's actually wonderful and pretty normal.
That means a lot. I know I would have been okay but it was incredible scary to contemplate.
I didn't know how I would cope. I wasn't sure how to handle it. I couldn't share my feelings b/c I knew people would judge me harshly. (2/)
For the last 20 weeks, I just worried and cried when I was alone. I told everyone they couldn't be there at the birth (3/)
While in labor, hubby finally admits how he feels (just like I feel). Our sweet daughter was born --perfectly normal. No Down syndrome. (4/)
I was so happy and so relieved, but I felt like a shitty person. I felt like I wouldn't have loved her as much. (5/)
But I do firmly believe that parents of disabled children are saints. It is a very hard life they have been given. (6/6)
annibe11e
I chose to have an autistic child (married his dad) and it's really hard. Emotionally and financially. And it won't end when he's 18.
MidiArbite
I thought you meant you had an autistic child who then somehow had a gay wedding with his father like some fucked up Adam Sandler movie.
And you don't magically become someone who can parent a special needs child. Some parents adapt well and some don't.
Plus, there is only so much help out there. Your fear is definitely legitimate. And it's good that you can recognize it now.
MazelJew92
Truth. Everyone is thinking it. Not everyone will admit this.
Treblaine
There shouldn't be any shame in not wanting your child to have a life-limiting disability. That's BECAUSE you love them, not lack of love.
I think they are saying they don't want to deal with a special needs child for selfish reasons. Nothing wrong with that either IMO.
Femail76
My biggest fear when I was pregnant. My son wasn't on purpose. But I did/do everything for him. No matter what. He's fine tho
michonnedisapproves
No, people would admit it. This is one of those things people like to pretend others don't say to be edgy
shaiban
Was afraid but not too much - ready to deal with this. Not happened.
MemeDissector
except maybe retards. then, i'm not sure many of them are thinking of having kids.
TwoVhsCopiesOfGoodfellas
I'll admit it, I'd probably go for abortion if I knew my kids was mentally impaired. I feel I couldn't give the child a life they 1/2
They deserve, I wouldn't be emotionally strong enough to live that life. 2/2
AxelYamanaka
Well lets just hope that their father would be strong enough. We deserve just as much a chance at life as anyone. We might not even 1/
2/ really notice our disadvantage until someone points it out. So, really, we're not out much...
Even if they were severely mentally impaired and required round the clock care? That's no life for a child.
ButtMagnet
This "we" you are using is ridiculous. Do not group yourself with those who can barely breathe on their own let alone act like a cock online
0invaliduser0
You dont speak for everyone.
Coffeeishappiness
I'm sorry you got downvoted. I agree with you.
I dont care what these self involved trust fund kids think. They can barely look up from their phone let alone form coherent thoughts.
You can't even give out a valid argument and resort to pity insults. Pretty sure you're the self involved one here
Oh. Sorry. Did I "trigger" you?
TheBlackWindHowls
I get that you might not see it as "awful," but do you really not have any negative feelings about the prospect at all? None?
It would be a huge struggle but what part of life worth living isnt? we dont know what the future holds for developmentally challenged kids.
To abort them because a doctor says some percentage? No thanks.
NERDRAGEohacat
You're right, there are people out there who furiously wish their children come out disabled and are bitterly disappointed when they don't.
markus242005
You realize the argument he's making is that not *everyone* thinks it is awful and is their worst fear... right?
Gorgrim
And people who don't care either way.
randomfan276
I can honestly say I've never met anyone who didn't care that their child was disabled. They deal with it and carry on, but they still care.
Your parents must have been pleased then.
PickyFan
You're a pretty bitter cunt it seems, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not always an asshole.
No Im always an asshole to people who thonk "retards"should die. You go on ahead and pretend you even know what cunt is.
Failing to understand that's the argument you're making, I see.
Thats questionable considering your diagnosis.
LilMissPinkBubblegumUnicorn
Depressed a whole pregnancy when they said she was showing common deformities. I'm not a strong person. She came out healthy as heck though.
Thankfully these fuckers here werent in charge of the decision.
and congrats!
CephalopodLodge4
How healthy is "heck" exactly?
She's got all her digits and no deformities, in/external, she has blue eyes (neither of us parents got blue eyes), healthy as an ox!
noisette
Blue is recessive, maybe both of you have a grandparent with blue eyes?
Lefpa
The eye color of the baby may change to what's similar to the baby's parents
But that just raised the question of how healthy an ox is.
Gasnia
Glad to heal everything went according to plan...If there was a plan.
She went septic after they began treating her for an infection, she had a slightly off white blood cell count. Two weeks later - GOLDEN!
MonkeyHittingPianoDramatically
Im no doctor but if a child turned into a golden colour I'd be worried
AIbertEinstein
Jaundice?
FloofPatrol
Yeah Einstein, Jaundice!
BlackBiblio
As a sibling to retarded children, it's a legitimate fear. The issue is: most are not detectable before birth.
trollisourbites
They aren't? I thought it was the opposite and that a lot of parents chose to go through with birth anywys
You can catch certain things, but often diseases are not able to be diagnosed until kids start missing development milestones.
TennyBird
As an autistic person myself, I don't want kids if they'll even have a chance of ending up like me.
TwoBoobs
YES. Sister has autism. I do not want to go through special needs childhood stuff again. IDK if that makes me awful
dumasforever
same
As a nephew to an aunt that lived with downs for 54+ years... I don't believe you have "retarded" siblings...
Chozolink
The PC commissars have no power here.
Both siblings have Fragile X syndrome. 20+ years study and testing at UC Davis, paired with a medical diagnosis. They're retarded.
letsbakecookies
My aunt has significant mental retardation due to oxygen deprivation at birth.
shmekie
Mine too
FrankyBabes
Aw geez, Rick - I'm not sure you can use that word
GreenPsycho
I didn't mean to offend the mentally handicapped morty
AwwGeeRick
Hmm. I'm close to relevant.
Well in all fairness I don't remember the line 100%
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3333840/quotes
Well, i guess not :(
minerhole
Does she have the common mongoloid physical feature? (I'm not sure how to phrased this without sounding ravist )
No, she has normal adult bone structure but the facial expressions she uses are closer to that of a 5 year old child.
Dandolo
You sort of succeeded, in that you sounded like a medically-illiterate chimpanzee instead.
kanihaznaiph
Ur thinking of down syndrome, facial features don't usually give evidence of mental retardation
realfakedoorssss
Yeah, this is wrong, many things are detectable before birth. Source: I've been pregnant twice, they run all kinds of tests.
Not all CAN be caught before birth. Yeah there's test but they don't catch all. Source: UC Davis MIND Institute, they focus on this issue.
Right, I was never disputing that, merely stating that it's not true that "most" can't be detected
A majority of mental and behavioral disorders are not picked up until AFTER a child misses growth milestones. See above source.
Many of those milestones are reached while the fetus is still in utero. There are many disorders detectable in the womb, and many after
textilelover
A friend of mine has a SEVERELY disabled child. They ran all sorts of tests on her too. Didn't catch it.
letsdrinkabeerletsdrinkithere
Many defects they can't declare conclusively, but they'll give odds based on observations and measurements.
You're absolutely right; they can't catch everything.
turkeygobbles
They'll run genetic testing if you or the father carry genetic diseases and give you options. Source: OBGYN clinic
Not all can be caught with testing in the womb, source UC Davis MIND Institute, they focus on this specific issue because of that.
Ummm neither me nor my husband carry genetic diseases, but they still screened for basic disorders. I did have to request it though.
Yep, a lot of patients don't know if they carry any genetic disorders and some dont even t ask for testing. (1)
(2) Many think the testing will automatically be done. Always ask!
UltimateCumDumpster
It makes you a stronger person, ask your parents about it, they'd know.
fezzesRcool
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TheArkhamAsylumAccountsPayableClerk
Rampent
BMOismyspiritanimal
Kigerone
Everytime I see this, 'WTF?!'
PeopleSeemToHaveLongNamesOnImgur
Some weird but on the Weird Al show
Pwnochio
lurker0001
TheBIFFALLO87
Pretty sure like 9 articles of the Geneva Convention were just violated.
Crucified
Detox208
No survivors
papufukujika
Savage
MassiveMaoMao
justbelowme
Yessss
Origind
This is one of the best roast I've seen wow
Leipz1ger
Saeko818
Cyime
Dat username
CyriousLordofDerp
feckr
hello 911 i just witnessed a fucking murder
Americanzeroterms
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
I'm upvoting this post just so more people see this comment
JamieSmyth
I was going to comment, but after this I feel like all my future comments are invalid
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
v
DancingButterfly
If I could double upvote I would. This was savage.
IaskTheToughQuestions
I was hoping someone would call op out on using the word retard but this was much better. +1 hope to see this get more votes than post
MotherEffinSatan
detour512
https://imgur.com/9TfsfKg nein survivors
Sinceriouslyyy
I don't know, this is a pretty insensitive comment. Don't have to shame someone for admitting they might not be able to handle it.
trblmaker
howaboutnothankyouverymuch
Haohmaru94
best burns i read on imgur.
SheBitch
Buuuurrrrn
AwesomeInThePotatoes
Damn...
Vanbytheriver
B.u.r.n.
soggybottoms3
WhiteyandtheFullEffect
ACashedUpBogan
Ayy wrecked em mate!!
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
5volt
Foe @OP; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States
IUpvoteRussianGTAPosts
Bowtiesarecool45
lilperscription
Assgaurdian
So retarded and a faggot then?
StevenFarmer
Savage.
SloptimusPrime
TheShitClocksTickingBubs
http://imgur.com/xihg38M
mmmmfunnyy
You already heard it from 20+ imgurians, but +1. I'm still icing my ears from that burn.
tinmill
This... I can finally put my phone down and go to bed.
relaxyobatty
Rikimarudevil
HA!!!!BURN!!!!!!!
TheDeanofLean
LukewarmBeans
Burn
Gurlyouthickerthanabowlofoatmeal
@ultimatecumdumpster right now
davidbowieeyes
CaptCanada
so cold Op just died from hypothermia
Grenther
Incidentally also such a heavy burn there's nothing left but ashes.
*shivers*
Ouch
You're retarded. You can't comprehend pain, stop appropriating non-retarded culture.
Andonemorething
Thanks. I really needed it.
It's okay buck-a-roo you get back in there. You're doing fine.
RelativeVelocity
MrNlceGuy
@SavageMeter
JickityChi
That's a 68/67 rating. Yes, 1 extra point
Paragonville
Downs Syndrome is easy to detect nowadays if you get the fetus/embryo tested. I suggest abortion. Better to not be born retarded, -
GoCorral
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/opinion/the-truth-about-down-syndrome.html Downs is a positive for family happiness on average.
Unfortunately, Downs is not the only defect that leads to mental problems.
dietderpsy
Have you ever been around anyone with Down Syndrome? Many live a happy life.
marabugg06
Why is this getting down voted??
Because these people don't realise that when you become a parent it isn't about you anymore.
And they're more intelligent than you'd think. My daughter w DS is 2. Speaks to me in sign and is potty training herself.
CziltangBrone
But there are degrees of the effect. Look at Tim of Tim's Place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6He0FWoFj0
Can the tests tell how profoundly a particular foetus will be affected?
causality
Tim is a great guy but he doesn't actually manage the restaurant.
True, but he's an example of a well-known high-functioning retarded person. That's the only reason I picked hem.
- than live a life as a permanent 5 year old who will likely outlive their parents, and become a ward of the state, and die alone.
[deleted]
Some. But don't get yourself by thinking all of them are.
kid*
discombobulatedd
100% - it is a tough decision but should definitely be done
FinrodFelagundPrinceoftheNoldor
3 could extrapolate that idea onto all sorts of people who will have " worse" lives than we might.
2 are some if the happiest people I know. You don't kill potential life based on what you think their life will be like; otherwise, you
People shouldn't be forced to be parents. If you don't want to raise a disabled child then dont & don't shame those who make that choice.
I don't think we really have the right to judge someone else's happiness or level of life. I work with kids with down syndrome and they 1
redname1342
Yeah...this is the opinion socially acceptable today. What a shitty world
TemetNosce000
You do you
My cousin got a test for down syndrome done and it came out positive. They decided to have the baby and had a perfectly normal child.
I would rather abort than risk it. To each their own.
So.. their mutated chromosome just went away before birth?
ilikecamels
more likely a false positive on the test. Orrr he's lying. who knows
Whatever test it was a false positive. I'm not saying human error wasn't involved, just saying what happenned.
inb4thewar
You think people would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
OPS3C
I heard somewhere that most downies and other varieties of tard don't generally live that long. Like 40's. Don't kmow if it's true.
The average has gone up to about 60s. Still not great. Apparently leukemia is also more common in children with downs.
Upvoting for the knowledge not because I'm evil
BeauKnerr
Mostly true. You won't see many old ones. Living like a 5 year old forever takes a toll and there's a predisposition for other issues.
sourorphan2112
Even if they do. 40 years is a long time. If you have a kid past 30, it goes til the parent is in their 70s. Lots of ppl die before that.
somecallmerrrrrubitypubity
the tests are not 100% accurate, and people with down syndrome often do have happy lives, even jobs. it's hard for the parents, but (1/2)
you can't really assume it's not a livable life. (2/2)
A livable life, yes. But one with constant support from their parents. You never get an end date to when your kids can be on their own.
Mysterydewd
Maybe, but it's a legitimate concern. Not everyone's prepared for it. It's good to start asking yourself now before it comes up.
jqharm
I want to be a mom and have a lot of eager family but this scares me shitless. Mom was a parapro and I've seen the work it takes 1/2
Not to mention the financial and emotional toll as well.
LaronX
The emotional and mental toll are the things that truly can shatter a family. Not just the parents, but also the other kids.
applesforjuice
This has always been my worst fear as long as I can remember. I've never told anyone, even people I care about/trust who ask seriously
Imapreacher
I thought this was another BS post where OP clarifies that they actually meant something silly and harmless. But no OP meant it. +1
SuperStav
As a parent of a beautiful boy who has autism and is almost 7, most of these comments make me want to throw up. These are the reasons why 1/
Children with CP, Asperger's, Down's, or anybody on the spectrum will always be fighting an uphill battle. There's so many small minded /2
People in the world who spread this view just because they're "scared raising their kid would be harder". News flash, raising children /3
Is a challenge regardless, one which most of you don't sound up to anyways. To choose to prevent a life because it's not convenient enough/4
Of a circumstance for you to raise them then you might as well not partake in populating our planet anyways. No child, "retarded" or not, /5
ohmygoshes
Your path isn't everyone's path. I have a child with a severe learning disbility. He's my treasure. I'd take it away from him tomorrow 1/
If I could. Not bc he isn't amazing. But bc I see how difficult his life is. And it is hard. It's ok to want "normal". But, 2/
Being not normal is pretty freaking awesome. Sometimes you don't know that until you've been thrown in it.
wambu
I worked with ED/LD kids. My friend worked with severe and profound handicapped children. Neither of us wanted to do the other's job,
I mean no offense, but you go home. You are done after work with them. Your entire life isn't about planning for them and around them. >
I was making the point that not all people are cut out to do all things and there is no shame in accepting that.
I don't mean to devalue your work. The world desperately needs more people like you and your friend. However it is hardly the same to work >
with those kids and have one of your own. Mentally it is a whole different burden. Fear, anxiety, doubt, loss of hope. It can be hard. End.
Yes, but there is support for parents. They just need to seek it out and ask for it.
Conniefoo21
The do blood tests at 10wks to make sure the fetus is developing properly. If it isn't they give you your options.
dirkmcdirk
They offered us tests at 20wks with options then as well.
Misora
Unless you're in a state where the doctors are allowed to lie to you about it to discourage abortion. See Texas sb 25.
Are you serious? ?? That blows dogs for quarters. MO doctors encourage to abort those babies.
FelixtheWolf
As a med student: English is my second language. Can someone translate Texas sb 25?
It prevents parents from suing doctors who intentionally withhold information about fetal deformities if they think the parents would abort.
Ar okay, thanks. This is most certainly a violation of the four principles of ethnic, but good thing it is only law we are talking about.
SwipeRightAlcoholic
What the fuck, that's horseshit
Better yet at the same time the state is getting sued for artificially capping special needs education costs but not allowing diagnosis
imadethisjusttomakeyoulookstupid
Who the heck prepares to have a special needs kid?
Adults, adults prepare for the possibility of a special needs child when they discuss having kids...
archermanny
Anyone with a known increased risk of having one. Also anyone having a baby usually prepares themselves for the possibility
Before deciding to try for a baby you go through a checklist of situations and how you and your partner would handle them before going on
That way if one person has a fear like this can you both realize a baby probably isn't what you're ready for or you're not compatible
Thedoctorhascometosaveus
Couples who had testing done before the baby was born and we're told the child would be special needs, it's an unfortunate truth.
jippyi
Metally, everyone should.
Mentally*
Rottenfish
People that adopt, foster etc.
DamnItTrudyWhatAboutThePineapple
Siblings.
spiderqueendemon
So much this. My dear brother-in-law is pretty independent now, but it's like having a teenager away at college forever. We're lucky.
Bro can be fairly annoying, and he often needs support, like having things neurotypical people consider basic explained. Panics sometimes.
But he's a hard worker, just about the hardest I know, and he's not stupid, just a little cognitively and socially off-spec.
Unchartify
Thats a underrated comment contender. Bravo
UrsaUrsa
I had to do a double take.. +1 and thanks for the laugh! :D
You're right about that. My friend has a soevial needs sibling, I grew up with him, he couldn't understand many things nor converse,
SuddenlySeymour
parent poster meant siblings who are planning on having a baby. together.
He'd make noises in the middle of some words and it was hard to understand him, the doctors didn't know what he had. I wonder how he's doing
mandadadada
I know I wouldn't be able to deal with a child who will never be independent. It will change your life too radically. It's ok to not want it
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thedukeofzill
Well, there are homes and programs for adult care for developmently delayed people. Sounds mean, but sometimes it's for the best.
cleverbeans
Well, for someone like me whose disability is a mental illness, there are no resources. You're just stuck with them.
And can be genetic too. Bipolar, autism,l and psychosis spectrum are inheritable...
None of them are strongly correlated with genetic factors. PTSD, post-partum depression and DID all have environmental causes.
It's not always possible to avoid but terminating pregnancies based on screening is possible most of the time. I have some genetic diseases
This brings me a great deal of relief. I wouldn't feel right bringing a person into this world at a disadvantage.
I wish I was never born and these days I almost desire death
I'm just putting it out there, because everyone thinks they are the special snowflake whose kid is gonna excell no matter what... Hmm nope
trollingworld
There there
Irish1228
I'm not a fan of abortions but I don't know how you could knowingly bring a person into the world where they're severely handicapped. 1/2
Some people are so against abortion that they wud willingly bring a handicapped child to this world.
Or bear a child in the worst time possible and with the shittiest of partners
I find it's a sacrifice based on what you believe VS bringing up someone trapped in an existence they might hate. And ultimately not deserve
Plus your body is totally 100% pro abortion given that 40% of all pregnancies are terminated by your own body before the 2nd month. Women
Why is this getting downvoted? Lol
pookieeatworld
Is it really so bad to relieve someone's pain? That's the way I'd look at it, if my kid had some genetic defect that was going to cause ~
them to be in constant pain, or not have any quality of life...
Around half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously,
occur during the first trimester.About 30% to 40% of all fertilized eggs miscarry, often before the pregnancy is known.
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001488.htm
Read UNder causes, you will find the info you want
vinny8boberano
No...you're good. I can understand the fear. I cannot say what I would do in that kind of situation. I like to believe I'd love them...
P51VoxelTanker
My sister is legit retarded and I can't even handle a retarded sibling. It just wears you out, and I have my own problems I barely handle.
chooseday
I don't think it makes you a horrible person. It's a big responsibility and it is a burden, they just have to make the most of it though.
NebinEsquire
All kids are retarded. Some are just really retarded.
kspainho
But then they grow up and aren't retarded... A bit different
memepolice420
I have a brother on the spectrum it has caused a lot of disconnect, I don't think my parents handled it well and that reflects on me
astrangehop
I imagine it's difficult.
ImADoctorNotAnImgurian
I am/was the "retarded kid" and boy I understand your fear. Autism + anxiety disorders + ADHD here. My mum got a burn-out and depression
NickBlight
Ditto. I'm sure I'd love them but a severely mentally handicapped child... Ugh
jambolian
Unfortunately, i couldn't agree more, imo, i think it's a waste of human life to put someone through torture everyday and not a normal life
CatBlaster5000
Right. Like it's fucked up to say, but that is what it is. A burden, that no one should have to deal with.
OverpricedCrayon
@OP I have a "retarded" brother. Its awful and a huge burden on my entire family. I wish he was never born in the most compassionate way
OverpricedCrayon
I have the same fear. I dont know if I could live with a disabled child. It destroys everything.
sweetheartzerosyou
This is normal. You never know, it will break a person. I used to take care of kids like this for a living.
Tinkrr
It's actually a completely valid concern. Anyone who says otherwise is either horribly naïve or lying.
doomscrollerextroadinaire
It was my worst fear too. My boy is healthy has no disability, but I realized that I would have loved him just the same if he was disabled.
YesPleaseSomeMore
As painful as the decision would be, my wife and I agreed we would not go through with the pregnancy should that be the case.
Ipostwhilehigh
The idea scared me to death, boys both since been diagnosed with autism, and I'm scared to death now - that said, I love them more than life
Theman098
As someone who risks having a child who is autistic (Like myself) NOOOPE if I want a kid, i'll adopt.
FindusSomKatten
as someone who think's it'd selfish too put more strain on the planet becouse i want a child that looks like me, same
SimpleManComplexMind
THIS! The amount of waste one human creates (in certain cultures) is tremendous.
JohmBambo
My worst fear is having children.
foolhollow
Guys, if you see no kids in your future, get a vasectomy. I am 30 years old and got one two years ago and it was the best decision I ever.
foolhollow
Made...
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
I'm more worried about an STD than kids but I guess a kid is the ultimate STD.
LowercaseG
Remove the word "retarded" and it's an equally valid meme
AzgarOgly
I have kids. And this is the best thing happened in my life.
Chandler920
Thank you
Kalid19
I laughed. Thanks.
Pegamaroll
I have an autistic kid. I still shake in my boots and feel for people WHO'S kids have CP and Downs.
ahotpotato
I don't know what CP is referring to in this context and I refuse to Google 'cp'. Anybody help a brotha out?
lajodla
Cerebral palsy.
GoogleFucker
Brother has CP. I'm up at night sometimes, thinking about the future. I can't even imagine my parents' sleepless nights.
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
As someone with autism, what level of autism are we talking about here? It kind of comes in a lot of varieties.
Pegamaroll
I consider myself lucky, but he's not one of those high functioning talented ones. He is non-verbal. His diagnosis is PDD-NOS.
sugarmagnolia73
My son has cp but its actually pretty mild;no mental disability,he's in regular hs classes.work with the dd&know how bad it can be
Pegamaroll
You are blessed.
sugarmagnolia73
Thanks!now if I can only get him to keep his room clean!????
Pegamaroll
Haha. That's all us parents.
HoeSkank
I'm just not interested in having children. I don't wanna weigh myself down and not be able to fully enjoy life. Is that dumb?
5am13
As a mother of a toddler, that isn't dumb at all. I love my kid but life was a lot different before I had her. You lose a lot of freedom.
Gmayor61
No.
SimpleManComplexMind
Your life, your reasoning. Doesn't need to make sense to anyone else
NR97420
But he could become president or a Republican!
ultradongle
That's a terrible thing to say because it covfefe
kashmoney02
darkdoom001
My wife was 38 when we had our first kid, and 41 when we had our second. Statistically, we were at the highest risk...I lost a lot of sleep
cainoh
Sis had a kid at 42 and was constantly reminded a "geriatric pregnancy" has many such risks. They were worried, but it worked out okay.
MyMothersNotAThiefButYouShouldSeeHerSnatch
My wife was exactly the same age for both of ours. so "same here" for all of that.
Zootsoot
Mental illness on both sides. His parents expect we'll take over care of their capable but utterly spoiled bipolar adult kid. Not happening
astrangehop
Great job burning Bipolars with your sarcastic post!
Illthinkofausernamelater
They didn't burn bipolars they were specifically talking about 1 person. Way to generalize and be a dick.
Illthinkofausernamelater
Seriously? Bipolar disorder can be treated. Plenty of adults live on their own and are completely independent with it.
JanetVanDyne
They could have autism/down and also be bipolar.
Zootsoot
To clarify: sib in law is high functioning CAN be an adult- plays parents like a cheap violin (one parent feels illness is "their fault")2/3
Zootsoot
They clean sib's house, pay his bills, finance his leaving jobs he is merely tired of, bought him a condo,let him delay 3/4
Zootsoot
Family dinners/events because "He's having a hard time getting up today", plan traveling around him...seriously. 4/5
Zootsoot
I didn't get married to be handed someone else's spoiled perma-teenager to parent as my retirement. 5/5
ImNotDoneYet
During my pregnancy, there was some concern that my daughter would have Down syndrome. I was TERRIFIED & felt like such a bitch (1/)
Chandler920
No judgement. When we found out after birth that my daughter has DS I cried for a week. But she's actually wonderful and pretty normal.
ImNotDoneYet
That means a lot. I know I would have been okay but it was incredible scary to contemplate.
ImNotDoneYet
I didn't know how I would cope. I wasn't sure how to handle it. I couldn't share my feelings b/c I knew people would judge me harshly. (2/)
ImNotDoneYet
For the last 20 weeks, I just worried and cried when I was alone. I told everyone they couldn't be there at the birth (3/)
ImNotDoneYet
While in labor, hubby finally admits how he feels (just like I feel). Our sweet daughter was born --perfectly normal. No Down syndrome. (4/)
ImNotDoneYet
I was so happy and so relieved, but I felt like a shitty person. I felt like I wouldn't have loved her as much. (5/)
ImNotDoneYet
But I do firmly believe that parents of disabled children are saints. It is a very hard life they have been given. (6/6)
annibe11e
I chose to have an autistic child (married his dad) and it's really hard. Emotionally and financially. And it won't end when he's 18.
MidiArbite
I thought you meant you had an autistic child who then somehow had a gay wedding with his father like some fucked up Adam Sandler movie.
annibe11e
And you don't magically become someone who can parent a special needs child. Some parents adapt well and some don't.
annibe11e
Plus, there is only so much help out there. Your fear is definitely legitimate. And it's good that you can recognize it now.
MazelJew92
Truth. Everyone is thinking it. Not everyone will admit this.
Treblaine
There shouldn't be any shame in not wanting your child to have a life-limiting disability. That's BECAUSE you love them, not lack of love.
annibe11e
I think they are saying they don't want to deal with a special needs child for selfish reasons. Nothing wrong with that either IMO.
Femail76
My biggest fear when I was pregnant. My son wasn't on purpose. But I did/do everything for him. No matter what. He's fine tho
michonnedisapproves
No, people would admit it. This is one of those things people like to pretend others don't say to be edgy
shaiban
Was afraid but not too much - ready to deal with this. Not happened.
MemeDissector
except maybe retards. then, i'm not sure many of them are thinking of having kids.
TwoVhsCopiesOfGoodfellas
I'll admit it, I'd probably go for abortion if I knew my kids was mentally impaired. I feel I couldn't give the child a life they 1/2
TwoVhsCopiesOfGoodfellas
They deserve, I wouldn't be emotionally strong enough to live that life. 2/2
AxelYamanaka
Well lets just hope that their father would be strong enough. We deserve just as much a chance at life as anyone. We might not even 1/
AxelYamanaka
2/ really notice our disadvantage until someone points it out. So, really, we're not out much...
TwoVhsCopiesOfGoodfellas
Even if they were severely mentally impaired and required round the clock care? That's no life for a child.
ButtMagnet
This "we" you are using is ridiculous. Do not group yourself with those who can barely breathe on their own let alone act like a cock online
0invaliduser0
You dont speak for everyone.
Coffeeishappiness
I'm sorry you got downvoted. I agree with you.
0invaliduser0
I dont care what these self involved trust fund kids think. They can barely look up from their phone let alone form coherent thoughts.
Gmayor61
You can't even give out a valid argument and resort to pity insults. Pretty sure you're the self involved one here
0invaliduser0
Oh. Sorry. Did I "trigger" you?
TheBlackWindHowls
I get that you might not see it as "awful," but do you really not have any negative feelings about the prospect at all? None?
0invaliduser0
It would be a huge struggle but what part of life worth living isnt? we dont know what the future holds for developmentally challenged kids.
0invaliduser0
To abort them because a doctor says some percentage? No thanks.
NERDRAGEohacat
You're right, there are people out there who furiously wish their children come out disabled and are bitterly disappointed when they don't.
markus242005
You realize the argument he's making is that not *everyone* thinks it is awful and is their worst fear... right?
Gorgrim
And people who don't care either way.
randomfan276
I can honestly say I've never met anyone who didn't care that their child was disabled. They deal with it and carry on, but they still care.
0invaliduser0
Your parents must have been pleased then.
PickyFan
You're a pretty bitter cunt it seems, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not always an asshole.
0invaliduser0
No Im always an asshole to people who thonk "retards"should die. You go on ahead and pretend you even know what cunt is.
NERDRAGEohacat
Failing to understand that's the argument you're making, I see.
0invaliduser0
Thats questionable considering your diagnosis.
LilMissPinkBubblegumUnicorn
Depressed a whole pregnancy when they said she was showing common deformities. I'm not a strong person. She came out healthy as heck though.
0invaliduser0
Thankfully these fuckers here werent in charge of the decision.
0invaliduser0
and congrats!
CephalopodLodge4
How healthy is "heck" exactly?
LilMissPinkBubblegumUnicorn
She's got all her digits and no deformities, in/external, she has blue eyes (neither of us parents got blue eyes), healthy as an ox!
noisette
Blue is recessive, maybe both of you have a grandparent with blue eyes?
Lefpa
The eye color of the baby may change to what's similar to the baby's parents
CephalopodLodge4
But that just raised the question of how healthy an ox is.
Gasnia
Glad to heal everything went according to plan...If there was a plan.
LilMissPinkBubblegumUnicorn
She went septic after they began treating her for an infection, she had a slightly off white blood cell count. Two weeks later - GOLDEN!
MonkeyHittingPianoDramatically
Im no doctor but if a child turned into a golden colour I'd be worried
AIbertEinstein
Jaundice?
FloofPatrol
Yeah Einstein, Jaundice!
BlackBiblio
As a sibling to retarded children, it's a legitimate fear. The issue is: most are not detectable before birth.
trollisourbites
They aren't? I thought it was the opposite and that a lot of parents chose to go through with birth anywys
BlackBiblio
You can catch certain things, but often diseases are not able to be diagnosed until kids start missing development milestones.
TennyBird
As an autistic person myself, I don't want kids if they'll even have a chance of ending up like me.
TwoBoobs
YES. Sister has autism. I do not want to go through special needs childhood stuff again. IDK if that makes me awful
dumasforever
same
markus242005
As a nephew to an aunt that lived with downs for 54+ years... I don't believe you have "retarded" siblings...
Chozolink
The PC commissars have no power here.
BlackBiblio
Both siblings have Fragile X syndrome. 20+ years study and testing at UC Davis, paired with a medical diagnosis. They're retarded.
letsbakecookies
My aunt has significant mental retardation due to oxygen deprivation at birth.
shmekie
Mine too
FrankyBabes
Aw geez, Rick - I'm not sure you can use that word
GreenPsycho
I didn't mean to offend the mentally handicapped morty
AwwGeeRick
Hmm. I'm close to relevant.
FrankyBabes
Well in all fairness I don't remember the line 100%
FrankyBabes
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3333840/quotes
AwwGeeRick
Well, i guess not :(
minerhole
Does she have the common mongoloid physical feature? (I'm not sure how to phrased this without sounding ravist )
letsbakecookies
No, she has normal adult bone structure but the facial expressions she uses are closer to that of a 5 year old child.
Dandolo
You sort of succeeded, in that you sounded like a medically-illiterate chimpanzee instead.
kanihaznaiph
Ur thinking of down syndrome, facial features don't usually give evidence of mental retardation
realfakedoorssss
Yeah, this is wrong, many things are detectable before birth. Source: I've been pregnant twice, they run all kinds of tests.
BlackBiblio
Not all CAN be caught before birth. Yeah there's test but they don't catch all. Source: UC Davis MIND Institute, they focus on this issue.
realfakedoorssss
Right, I was never disputing that, merely stating that it's not true that "most" can't be detected
BlackBiblio
A majority of mental and behavioral disorders are not picked up until AFTER a child misses growth milestones. See above source.
realfakedoorssss
Many of those milestones are reached while the fetus is still in utero. There are many disorders detectable in the womb, and many after
textilelover
A friend of mine has a SEVERELY disabled child. They ran all sorts of tests on her too. Didn't catch it.
letsdrinkabeerletsdrinkithere
Many defects they can't declare conclusively, but they'll give odds based on observations and measurements.
realfakedoorssss
You're absolutely right; they can't catch everything.
turkeygobbles
They'll run genetic testing if you or the father carry genetic diseases and give you options. Source: OBGYN clinic
BlackBiblio
Not all can be caught with testing in the womb, source UC Davis MIND Institute, they focus on this specific issue because of that.
realfakedoorssss
Ummm neither me nor my husband carry genetic diseases, but they still screened for basic disorders. I did have to request it though.
turkeygobbles
Yep, a lot of patients don't know if they carry any genetic disorders and some dont even t ask for testing. (1)
turkeygobbles
(2) Many think the testing will automatically be done. Always ask!
UltimateCumDumpster
It makes you a stronger person, ask your parents about it, they'd know.
fezzesRcool
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qDEq2bMbcbPRQ2c/giphy.gif
TheArkhamAsylumAccountsPayableClerk
Rampent
BMOismyspiritanimal
Kigerone
Everytime I see this, 'WTF?!'
PeopleSeemToHaveLongNamesOnImgur
Some weird but on the Weird Al show
Pwnochio
lurker0001
TheBIFFALLO87
Pretty sure like 9 articles of the Geneva Convention were just violated.
MazelJew92
Crucified
Detox208
No survivors
papufukujika
Savage
MassiveMaoMao
justbelowme
Yessss
Origind
This is one of the best roast I've seen wow
Leipz1ger
Saeko818
Cyime
Dat username
CyriousLordofDerp
feckr
hello 911 i just witnessed a fucking murder
Americanzeroterms
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
I'm upvoting this post just so more people see this comment
JamieSmyth
I was going to comment, but after this I feel like all my future comments are invalid
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
DancingButterfly
If I could double upvote I would. This was savage.
IaskTheToughQuestions
I was hoping someone would call op out on using the word retard but this was much better. +1 hope to see this get more votes than post
MotherEffinSatan
detour512
https://imgur.com/9TfsfKg nein survivors
Sinceriouslyyy
I don't know, this is a pretty insensitive comment. Don't have to shame someone for admitting they might not be able to handle it.
trblmaker
howaboutnothankyouverymuch
Haohmaru94
best burns i read on imgur.
SheBitch
Buuuurrrrn
AwesomeInThePotatoes
Damn...
Vanbytheriver
B.u.r.n.
soggybottoms3
WhiteyandtheFullEffect
ACashedUpBogan
Ayy wrecked em mate!!
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
5volt
Foe @OP; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States
IUpvoteRussianGTAPosts
Bowtiesarecool45
lilperscription
Assgaurdian
So retarded and a faggot then?
StevenFarmer
Savage.
SloptimusPrime
TheShitClocksTickingBubs
http://imgur.com/xihg38M
mmmmfunnyy
You already heard it from 20+ imgurians, but +1. I'm still icing my ears from that burn.
tinmill
This... I can finally put my phone down and go to bed.
relaxyobatty
Rikimarudevil
HA!!!!BURN!!!!!!!
TheDeanofLean
LukewarmBeans
Burn
Gurlyouthickerthanabowlofoatmeal
@ultimatecumdumpster right now
davidbowieeyes
CaptCanada
so cold Op just died from hypothermia
Grenther
Incidentally also such a heavy burn there's nothing left but ashes.
MagnusMan
*shivers*
MagnusMan
Ouch
AxelYamanaka
You're retarded. You can't comprehend pain, stop appropriating non-retarded culture.
Andonemorething
MagnusMan
Thanks. I really needed it.
Andonemorething
It's okay buck-a-roo you get back in there. You're doing fine.
RelativeVelocity
MrNlceGuy
@SavageMeter
JickityChi
That's a 68/67 rating. Yes, 1 extra point
Paragonville
Downs Syndrome is easy to detect nowadays if you get the fetus/embryo tested. I suggest abortion. Better to not be born retarded, -
GoCorral
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/opinion/the-truth-about-down-syndrome.html Downs is a positive for family happiness on average.
AzgarOgly
Unfortunately, Downs is not the only defect that leads to mental problems.
dietderpsy
Have you ever been around anyone with Down Syndrome? Many live a happy life.
marabugg06
Why is this getting down voted??
dietderpsy
Because these people don't realise that when you become a parent it isn't about you anymore.
Chandler920
And they're more intelligent than you'd think. My daughter w DS is 2. Speaks to me in sign and is potty training herself.
CziltangBrone
But there are degrees of the effect. Look at Tim of Tim's Place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6He0FWoFj0
CziltangBrone
Can the tests tell how profoundly a particular foetus will be affected?
causality
Tim is a great guy but he doesn't actually manage the restaurant.
CziltangBrone
True, but he's an example of a well-known high-functioning retarded person. That's the only reason I picked hem.
Paragonville
- than live a life as a permanent 5 year old who will likely outlive their parents, and become a ward of the state, and die alone.
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Paragonville
Some. But don't get yourself by thinking all of them are.
Paragonville
kid*
discombobulatedd
100% - it is a tough decision but should definitely be done
FinrodFelagundPrinceoftheNoldor
3 could extrapolate that idea onto all sorts of people who will have " worse" lives than we might.
FinrodFelagundPrinceoftheNoldor
2 are some if the happiest people I know. You don't kill potential life based on what you think their life will be like; otherwise, you
Illthinkofausernamelater
People shouldn't be forced to be parents. If you don't want to raise a disabled child then dont & don't shame those who make that choice.
FinrodFelagundPrinceoftheNoldor
I don't think we really have the right to judge someone else's happiness or level of life. I work with kids with down syndrome and they 1
redname1342
Yeah...this is the opinion socially acceptable today. What a shitty world
TemetNosce000
You do you
ultradongle
My cousin got a test for down syndrome done and it came out positive. They decided to have the baby and had a perfectly normal child.
Illthinkofausernamelater
I would rather abort than risk it. To each their own.
TemetNosce000
So.. their mutated chromosome just went away before birth?
ilikecamels
more likely a false positive on the test. Orrr he's lying. who knows
ultradongle
Whatever test it was a false positive. I'm not saying human error wasn't involved, just saying what happenned.
inb4thewar
You think people would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
OPS3C
I heard somewhere that most downies and other varieties of tard don't generally live that long. Like 40's. Don't kmow if it's true.
Illthinkofausernamelater
The average has gone up to about 60s. Still not great. Apparently leukemia is also more common in children with downs.
OPS3C
Upvoting for the knowledge not because I'm evil
BeauKnerr
Mostly true. You won't see many old ones. Living like a 5 year old forever takes a toll and there's a predisposition for other issues.
sourorphan2112
Even if they do. 40 years is a long time. If you have a kid past 30, it goes til the parent is in their 70s. Lots of ppl die before that.
somecallmerrrrrubitypubity
the tests are not 100% accurate, and people with down syndrome often do have happy lives, even jobs. it's hard for the parents, but (1/2)
somecallmerrrrrubitypubity
you can't really assume it's not a livable life. (2/2)
Illthinkofausernamelater
A livable life, yes. But one with constant support from their parents. You never get an end date to when your kids can be on their own.
Mysterydewd
Maybe, but it's a legitimate concern. Not everyone's prepared for it. It's good to start asking yourself now before it comes up.
jqharm
I want to be a mom and have a lot of eager family but this scares me shitless. Mom was a parapro and I've seen the work it takes 1/2
jqharm
Not to mention the financial and emotional toll as well.
LaronX
The emotional and mental toll are the things that truly can shatter a family. Not just the parents, but also the other kids.
applesforjuice
This has always been my worst fear as long as I can remember. I've never told anyone, even people I care about/trust who ask seriously
Imapreacher
I thought this was another BS post where OP clarifies that they actually meant something silly and harmless. But no OP meant it. +1
SuperStav
As a parent of a beautiful boy who has autism and is almost 7, most of these comments make me want to throw up. These are the reasons why 1/
SuperStav
Children with CP, Asperger's, Down's, or anybody on the spectrum will always be fighting an uphill battle. There's so many small minded /2
SuperStav
People in the world who spread this view just because they're "scared raising their kid would be harder". News flash, raising children /3
SuperStav
Is a challenge regardless, one which most of you don't sound up to anyways. To choose to prevent a life because it's not convenient enough/4
SuperStav
Of a circumstance for you to raise them then you might as well not partake in populating our planet anyways. No child, "retarded" or not, /5
ohmygoshes
Your path isn't everyone's path. I have a child with a severe learning disbility. He's my treasure. I'd take it away from him tomorrow 1/
ohmygoshes
If I could. Not bc he isn't amazing. But bc I see how difficult his life is. And it is hard. It's ok to want "normal". But, 2/
ohmygoshes
Being not normal is pretty freaking awesome. Sometimes you don't know that until you've been thrown in it.
wambu
I worked with ED/LD kids. My friend worked with severe and profound handicapped children. Neither of us wanted to do the other's job,
LaronX
I mean no offense, but you go home. You are done after work with them. Your entire life isn't about planning for them and around them. >
wambu
I was making the point that not all people are cut out to do all things and there is no shame in accepting that.
LaronX
I don't mean to devalue your work. The world desperately needs more people like you and your friend. However it is hardly the same to work >
LaronX
with those kids and have one of your own. Mentally it is a whole different burden. Fear, anxiety, doubt, loss of hope. It can be hard. End.
wambu
Yes, but there is support for parents. They just need to seek it out and ask for it.
Conniefoo21
The do blood tests at 10wks to make sure the fetus is developing properly. If it isn't they give you your options.
dirkmcdirk
They offered us tests at 20wks with options then as well.
Misora
Unless you're in a state where the doctors are allowed to lie to you about it to discourage abortion. See Texas sb 25.
Conniefoo21
Are you serious? ?? That blows dogs for quarters. MO doctors encourage to abort those babies.
FelixtheWolf
As a med student: English is my second language. Can someone translate Texas sb 25?
Misora
It prevents parents from suing doctors who intentionally withhold information about fetal deformities if they think the parents would abort.
FelixtheWolf
Ar okay, thanks. This is most certainly a violation of the four principles of ethnic, but good thing it is only law we are talking about.
SwipeRightAlcoholic
What the fuck, that's horseshit
Misora
Better yet at the same time the state is getting sued for artificially capping special needs education costs but not allowing diagnosis
imadethisjusttomakeyoulookstupid
Who the heck prepares to have a special needs kid?
markus242005
Adults, adults prepare for the possibility of a special needs child when they discuss having kids...
archermanny
Anyone with a known increased risk of having one. Also anyone having a baby usually prepares themselves for the possibility
archermanny
Before deciding to try for a baby you go through a checklist of situations and how you and your partner would handle them before going on
archermanny
That way if one person has a fear like this can you both realize a baby probably isn't what you're ready for or you're not compatible
Thedoctorhascometosaveus
Couples who had testing done before the baby was born and we're told the child would be special needs, it's an unfortunate truth.
jippyi
Metally, everyone should.
jippyi
Mentally*
Rottenfish
People that adopt, foster etc.
DamnItTrudyWhatAboutThePineapple
Siblings.
spiderqueendemon
So much this. My dear brother-in-law is pretty independent now, but it's like having a teenager away at college forever. We're lucky.
spiderqueendemon
Bro can be fairly annoying, and he often needs support, like having things neurotypical people consider basic explained. Panics sometimes.
spiderqueendemon
But he's a hard worker, just about the hardest I know, and he's not stupid, just a little cognitively and socially off-spec.
Unchartify
Thats a underrated comment contender. Bravo
UrsaUrsa
I had to do a double take.. +1 and thanks for the laugh! :D
JanetVanDyne
You're right about that. My friend has a soevial needs sibling, I grew up with him, he couldn't understand many things nor converse,
SuddenlySeymour
parent poster meant siblings who are planning on having a baby. together.
JanetVanDyne
He'd make noises in the middle of some words and it was hard to understand him, the doctors didn't know what he had. I wonder how he's doing
mandadadada
I know I wouldn't be able to deal with a child who will never be independent. It will change your life too radically. It's ok to not want it
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fucjfuxks5
No.
thedukeofzill
Well, there are homes and programs for adult care for developmently delayed people. Sounds mean, but sometimes it's for the best.
cleverbeans
Well, for someone like me whose disability is a mental illness, there are no resources. You're just stuck with them.
mandadadada
And can be genetic too. Bipolar, autism,l and psychosis spectrum are inheritable...
cleverbeans
None of them are strongly correlated with genetic factors. PTSD, post-partum depression and DID all have environmental causes.
mandadadada
It's not always possible to avoid but terminating pregnancies based on screening is possible most of the time. I have some genetic diseases
fucjfuxks5
This brings me a great deal of relief. I wouldn't feel right bringing a person into this world at a disadvantage.
mandadadada
I wish I was never born and these days I almost desire death
mandadadada
I'm just putting it out there, because everyone thinks they are the special snowflake whose kid is gonna excell no matter what... Hmm nope
trollingworld
There there
Irish1228
I'm not a fan of abortions but I don't know how you could knowingly bring a person into the world where they're severely handicapped. 1/2
trollingworld
Some people are so against abortion that they wud willingly bring a handicapped child to this world.
mandadadada
Or bear a child in the worst time possible and with the shittiest of partners
mandadadada
I find it's a sacrifice based on what you believe VS bringing up someone trapped in an existence they might hate. And ultimately not deserve
mandadadada
Plus your body is totally 100% pro abortion given that 40% of all pregnancies are terminated by your own body before the 2nd month. Women
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Irish1228
Why is this getting downvoted? Lol
pookieeatworld
Is it really so bad to relieve someone's pain? That's the way I'd look at it, if my kid had some genetic defect that was going to cause ~
pookieeatworld
them to be in constant pain, or not have any quality of life...
mandadadada
Around half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously,
mandadadada
occur during the first trimester.About 30% to 40% of all fertilized eggs miscarry, often before the pregnancy is known.
mandadadada
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001488.htm
mandadadada
Read UNder causes, you will find the info you want