Oct 26, 2020 11:36 PM
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dogandfrienddog
Boy howdy the transphobes are coming out of the woodwork on this one.
AnythingMuchShorter
I don't like that as I age it gets harder to stay in shape and have enough energy. Make the mean scientists change that hurtful fact please.
MissSiesta
This should apply to abortions too. It's none of your fucking business what I do with my own body.
C141Clay
Donut holes are not actually the holes from donuts.
DaisyfromDownunder
Make pot compulsory and nobody will care.
Win1forthegifer
True but Ricky Gervais is still a twat
HotDogFlag
I read as scientific farts
EirikurDC
“Facts aren’t important” -AOC
HolyCowDoNotEat
She said making a numerical mistake didn’t matter as much as being morally right. Which, why can’t we do both? Wasn’t her best moment.
ItsRealTalk
Reminder that while this quote is fine Ricky Gervais is a fuck and uses sentiments like this to try to cover for that.
CalumFace
Everyone is a cunt.
Agreed. He is a right knob.
Fritzy19
Yes, though if at it matters how the info is shared. Some ppl just need a kind person to explain things without making them feel insullted.
Isingwer
A man who thinks himself a woman is not a woman, and needs to get better feelings
tenaciousjeebs
There’s a troll in the dungeon!
Corrodias
Taking every opportunity to remind an orphan that their parents are dead can very well make them feel bad, and it doesn't make you clever.
Your ability to harm people, even if you manage to do it by saying true things, doesn't make you virtuous.
WehWehWeh
But then you get people who say this but have totally incorrect facts lol
tzahtman
Pluto is a planet!
LordNergal
Yes. Like the idea the stegosaurus was a good singer. It was FUCKING TERRIBLE! Sounded like an owl trying opera!
A fetus is not a part of the mothers body, if that makes you upset, get better feelings
It’s a parasite by definition.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Close. It would have to be another species to be a parasite. Everything else in the definition fits, but not that.
Very fair
bunnyrut
The people hurt by facts are the same ones that call everyone snowflakes.
WhyAreYouASmugBellend
The original tweet was about gender, ie a trans woman is a biological man. It's a a fact.
Simonsays3
Whoops! You did a bigotry. Next time, research the actual facts before asserting something so definitively wrong as a “fact”
lol, your "fact" is that a man is a woman? Ok mate, I'm sure you will do well in life, living that fantasy.
Ignorance is okay, willful ignorance is not. Learning about how actually complicated sexuality is amongst humans can be really eye opening
It's not about sexuality. You're so stupid you don't even know it.
Lindsay Graham?
insertwittyjoke
I dunno man, the progressives have been looking more regressive as the years go on
Right? I mean who the want (checks notes) universal healthcare, planet saving energy, and dismantling of an oppressive systems of policing?
Zerosober
Based
goblinofstoichiometry
So humans are binary.... Easy enough. What's next?
A2DY79
Oh my god, you racist, fascist bigot. Go back to Nazi Germany.
Ronelyn
3 edgy 5 me, bro-gart.
dalaiyoda
IDownvoteUnsaucedPosts
Wow so many people responding to this post while completely ignoring Science, that's crazy! Just kidding you're just transphobic :)
Why is it, on every "science is good, please pay attention to it" post, there is ?????? one of you halftards playing this card?! Every time!
Right, either dumber than average or smarter than average. Dope.
ilikehornets
Eating meat is terrible for the environment and terrible for your health
Sprixxen
...And terrible for the animals? I think that should be the most convincing.
For the environment, yes. For health, not exactly.
JPDG
There are two biological sexes, and very rare cases intersex individuals.
Learn something.
AHDaniHodd
So there’s more than 2 biological sexes ? considering you brought up a third
manslut
Sex =/= Gender
Hahaha, I knew someone would go to this. Do you mean hormonal, chromosomal, or genetic sex?
“There are two sexes, but also more than two sexes.”
No one's arguing this.
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
bluerazzgummy
‘You’re famous but have values? I’m famous but have values but have a career shitting on you for having values. That’s why I’m happier’
Multipew
None of his shows that I've watched made him come across as very happy deep down. Extras is downright miserable
JimPlaysGames
Middle aged rich white straight cis man. That's why you're happier. Because you're at the fucking top of the privilege pole
Need a hug?
DepressedYetBlessed
You found it offensive? I found it entertaining. That’s why I’m happier than you. - Spaniard fan of bull fighting
BiologicallyHazardousMaterial
Its still logical. Thinking of others is always upsetting when its not inline with what you want. But its almost always worth it in the end.
Shazaem
The issue is that some people can't accept that sometimes science says 'hey, we did some more tests and turns out we wrong the first time'
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Kahoko
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" ~ Isaac Asimov
apeshigh
Or that science is beyond their ability to understand and they can't accept that they are stupid. Some of you are just stupid, accept it
Most*
potatoinorbit
Once upon a time eight pieces of white bread a day was considered part of a healthy diet.
RibbleTPibits
So we got better facts after all
cozynester
Only if it interferes with their doctrine.
Youhavinagiraffe
Levels of certainty need to be taught from an early age. An alarming number of people only deal with "definitely yes" and "definitely no"
PizzaStation
It's crazy how many people refuse to understand that science isn't a list of facts. It's a process.
ProbablyDrunkAgain
The average person doesn't understand that because they're only familiar with the end results.
AlwaysTiredLiliVonSchtupp
Science is constantly evolving. That's what people can't seem to understand. The more they study the more they learn.
Bummer for you, not knowing what Google is
ropetopus
And that's in part because science is communicated so badly to the public. Study says "hm, maybe X" and news says "X for sure" 1/2
Then more tests and science goes "so not X after all" and people go "SCIENTISTS ARE WRONG" instead of "oh, they learned more" 2/2
OldSchoolNewRules
Well if science is so great why is it wrong all the time? /s
They openly confuse it with a belief system when it is an investigation system.
anotherdickat
Well Said.
ElChupaNuggra
Well that and there kind of was/to a much lesser extent still is, 'Science' that is done with a 'result' predetermined to further 1/?
support and encourage biases. Then you have 'Scientific Studies' that are done intentionally poorly to or facts were guided to results 2/?
by not fully exploring the context of the subject matter. Examples: How Science 'proved' Gays were sick in the head, how women are not 3/?
suited to 'competitive work environments', and any number of other self serving studies that to the average layman is impossible to 4/?
ChainmailleAddict
It's on us to applaud them for changing their mind when presented with new information. It's a really tough thing to put your pride aside.
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
Not really.
Not really that hard to do, I meant.
It's not hard if you're emotionally-mature, but the brain demands consistency more than truth and disrupting that consistency is painful.
KillerTofu69
Because changing your mind destroys all of your credibility.
beclamide
Confirmation bias affects absolutely everyone to varying degrees
MrMineHeads
Fetuses are alive and human. Scientific fact. Completely inarguable. Anthropogenic climate change is real. Scientific fact.
Plenty of things quality as being “alive” and we still kill them with little remorse or thought. A foetus is “alive,” but why does that 1/
matter? Sincerely, I have no idea why terminating a foetus that has 0% chance of survival outside the womb is an ethical issue.
Because it is human.
Oh my god, pull the other one. Humans disregard human life each and every day with no one crying out injustice.
It is not. The real meat of the matter these days is later-term when the fetus is potentially viable. Judith Jarvis Tomson got the pro 1/2
choice ball moving again with a libertarian argument, but there's a break now between the 100% choicers and the evictionists. 2/2
Late term abortions where the foetus might be viable are almost entirely done for legitimate medical reasons. Take that argument elsewhere.
Moldyplantproblems
time to start quoting crime stats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAOJjM5Pmg
CandidGamera
That's not arguing with scientific facts, that's parroting data. Science is analyzing the data in context.
GamingMule
Black pop % vs crime to start.
It seems very clear cut to me. Black populations are poorer, have worse quality education, have less opportunities etc. Recipe for disaster.
DrejLord
That just goes to show that blacks are targeted at a higher rate. Because crime is equal across the board. Just not arrests/convictions.
venomlash
Not quite true. There ARE still actual disparities, but they go away if you account for poverty rates too.
Yeah socioeconomic issues play a much larger role in "actual" crimes. But if theres a white guy and a black guy both with weed
Walking past a cop. Who does the cop throw against the wall for a random search? The question is rehtorical, we all know the answer
Its been scientifically proven that if you try the same exact case but attach a pic of a white dude or a black dude. The black dude gets
Convicted more frequently, AND received a higher sentence EVERY time. They tested it a dozen different ways with the same results
eathotdog
This is how statistics are used and abused in politics
Skin color doesn't mean shit. Income % vs. crime, there's a good one. Ethnicity vs. Job call backs, try that.
aTallIrishman
That first sentence is true when it comes to how cops treat people, too
The first black lady to be allowed in the same school as whites is 65. Black people need more time to catch up with us, and they are.
PaintedSlate
Despite our best efforts, which have in fact had a dramatic and ongoing impact.
I mean, unfortunately it does even when controlling income. That doesn't prove racism though and we can accept that. There are other 1/2
issues experienced by the poor black community that the poor white community does not face and these can impact the crime stat. 2/2
Dismissing this out of hand and refusing to engage with it is a form of benevolent racism that doesn't help towards a viable solution.
SaVillaHg
Then can we recognize that the US accounts for a minimal amount of carbon emissions worldwide and economic suicide will not change anything
ace5762
Hey, there's this thing called 'google'. You should try it sometime. https://www.google.com/search?q=emissions+by+country
You know what messes up economies? Not having a habital planet. Really throws a wrench in things.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Do you have any idea how much money there is to be made in renewable energy? Economic suicide is a myth perpetuated by oil companies
PerryLovewhistle
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Vampiremooos666
Fuck. These fucking moron are everywhere.
Economic suicide by investing in more modern tech? A hundred years ago you'd be whining that cars were killing the horse industry
witless1
We made up 15% of the worlds carbon emissions in 2014. That is not minimal.
Source the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data#Country
naytorin
My hypothesis was that this dude is a troll. After gathering profile data I have concluded that he is not a troll, and have formed an
Alternate hypothesis that he’s just a world-class dickhead. Example: getting an ADHD diagnosis will not improve the patient’s life. Fuck.
A quick Google of "carbon emissions by country" will show you just how wrong you are about that, and there's multiple sources on that.
It appears the facts hurt someone's feelings. Oh well.
LiquidSodium
This aint it chief
Minimal? China is top, USA is second at a whopping 5.4 Gigatons in 2018.
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions
kkanne20
Alternative facts LMAO has it been that long? Lies! THEYRE CALLED LIES, KELLYANNE. Say it with me...
iambrose
Fuck, was that coined only 3.5, almost 4 years ago?!
Yeah, no I’m almost positive that was like a decade ago at this point. [ I’m so tired ]
N00k
I want to nap but my body won't rest. 'Twas 20 years ago at this point
dogandfrienddog
Boy howdy the transphobes are coming out of the woodwork on this one.
AnythingMuchShorter
I don't like that as I age it gets harder to stay in shape and have enough energy. Make the mean scientists change that hurtful fact please.
MissSiesta
This should apply to abortions too. It's none of your fucking business what I do with my own body.
C141Clay
Donut holes are not actually the holes from donuts.
DaisyfromDownunder
Make pot compulsory and nobody will care.
Win1forthegifer
True but Ricky Gervais is still a twat
HotDogFlag
I read as scientific farts
EirikurDC
“Facts aren’t important” -AOC
HolyCowDoNotEat
She said making a numerical mistake didn’t matter as much as being morally right. Which, why can’t we do both? Wasn’t her best moment.
ItsRealTalk
Reminder that while this quote is fine Ricky Gervais is a fuck and uses sentiments like this to try to cover for that.
CalumFace
Everyone is a cunt.
TendsToAgree
Agreed. He is a right knob.
Fritzy19
Yes, though if at it matters how the info is shared. Some ppl just need a kind person to explain things without making them feel insullted.
Isingwer
A man who thinks himself a woman is not a woman, and needs to get better feelings
tenaciousjeebs
There’s a troll in the dungeon!
Corrodias
Taking every opportunity to remind an orphan that their parents are dead can very well make them feel bad, and it doesn't make you clever.
Corrodias
Your ability to harm people, even if you manage to do it by saying true things, doesn't make you virtuous.
WehWehWeh
But then you get people who say this but have totally incorrect facts lol
tzahtman
Pluto is a planet!
LordNergal
Yes. Like the idea the stegosaurus was a good singer. It was FUCKING TERRIBLE! Sounded like an owl trying opera!
Isingwer
A fetus is not a part of the mothers body, if that makes you upset, get better feelings
tenaciousjeebs
It’s a parasite by definition.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Close. It would have to be another species to be a parasite. Everything else in the definition fits, but not that.
tenaciousjeebs
Very fair
bunnyrut
The people hurt by facts are the same ones that call everyone snowflakes.
WhyAreYouASmugBellend
The original tweet was about gender, ie a trans woman is a biological man. It's a a fact.
Simonsays3
Whoops! You did a bigotry. Next time, research the actual facts before asserting something so definitively wrong as a “fact”
WhyAreYouASmugBellend
lol, your "fact" is that a man is a woman? Ok mate, I'm sure you will do well in life, living that fantasy.
Simonsays3
Ignorance is okay, willful ignorance is not. Learning about how actually complicated sexuality is amongst humans can be really eye opening
WhyAreYouASmugBellend
It's not about sexuality. You're so stupid you don't even know it.
tenaciousjeebs
Lindsay Graham?
insertwittyjoke
I dunno man, the progressives have been looking more regressive as the years go on
Simonsays3
Right? I mean who the want (checks notes) universal healthcare, planet saving energy, and dismantling of an oppressive systems of policing?
Zerosober
Based
goblinofstoichiometry
So humans are binary.... Easy enough. What's next?
A2DY79
Oh my god, you racist, fascist bigot. Go back to Nazi Germany.
goblinofstoichiometry
Ronelyn
3 edgy 5 me, bro-gart.
dalaiyoda
IDownvoteUnsaucedPosts
Wow so many people responding to this post while completely ignoring Science, that's crazy! Just kidding you're just transphobic :)
dalaiyoda
Why is it, on every "science is good, please pay attention to it" post, there is ?????? one of you halftards playing this card?! Every time!
tenaciousjeebs
Right, either dumber than average or smarter than average. Dope.
HolyCowDoNotEat
ilikehornets
Eating meat is terrible for the environment and terrible for your health
Sprixxen
...And terrible for the animals? I think that should be the most convincing.
TendsToAgree
For the environment, yes. For health, not exactly.
JPDG
There are two biological sexes, and very rare cases intersex individuals.
dalaiyoda
Learn something.
AHDaniHodd
So there’s more than 2 biological sexes ? considering you brought up a third
manslut
Sex =/= Gender
tenaciousjeebs
Hahaha, I knew someone would go to this. Do you mean hormonal, chromosomal, or genetic sex?
tenaciousjeebs
“There are two sexes, but also more than two sexes.”
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
No one's arguing this.
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
bluerazzgummy
‘You’re famous but have values? I’m famous but have values but have a career shitting on you for having values. That’s why I’m happier’
Multipew
None of his shows that I've watched made him come across as very happy deep down. Extras is downright miserable
JimPlaysGames
Middle aged rich white straight cis man. That's why you're happier. Because you're at the fucking top of the privilege pole
C141Clay
Need a hug?
DepressedYetBlessed
You found it offensive? I found it entertaining. That’s why I’m happier than you. - Spaniard fan of bull fighting
BiologicallyHazardousMaterial
Its still logical. Thinking of others is always upsetting when its not inline with what you want. But its almost always worth it in the end.
Shazaem
The issue is that some people can't accept that sometimes science says 'hey, we did some more tests and turns out we wrong the first time'
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Kahoko
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" ~ Isaac Asimov
apeshigh
Or that science is beyond their ability to understand and they can't accept that they are stupid. Some of you are just stupid, accept it
TendsToAgree
Most*
potatoinorbit
Once upon a time eight pieces of white bread a day was considered part of a healthy diet.
RibbleTPibits
So we got better facts after all
cozynester
Only if it interferes with their doctrine.
Youhavinagiraffe
Levels of certainty need to be taught from an early age. An alarming number of people only deal with "definitely yes" and "definitely no"
PizzaStation
It's crazy how many people refuse to understand that science isn't a list of facts. It's a process.
ProbablyDrunkAgain
The average person doesn't understand that because they're only familiar with the end results.
AlwaysTiredLiliVonSchtupp
Science is constantly evolving. That's what people can't seem to understand. The more they study the more they learn.
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Simonsays3
Bummer for you, not knowing what Google is
ropetopus
And that's in part because science is communicated so badly to the public. Study says "hm, maybe X" and news says "X for sure" 1/2
ropetopus
Then more tests and science goes "so not X after all" and people go "SCIENTISTS ARE WRONG" instead of "oh, they learned more" 2/2
OldSchoolNewRules
Well if science is so great why is it wrong all the time? /s
AnythingMuchShorter
They openly confuse it with a belief system when it is an investigation system.
anotherdickat
Well Said.
ElChupaNuggra
Well that and there kind of was/to a much lesser extent still is, 'Science' that is done with a 'result' predetermined to further 1/?
ElChupaNuggra
support and encourage biases. Then you have 'Scientific Studies' that are done intentionally poorly to or facts were guided to results 2/?
ElChupaNuggra
by not fully exploring the context of the subject matter. Examples: How Science 'proved' Gays were sick in the head, how women are not 3/?
ElChupaNuggra
suited to 'competitive work environments', and any number of other self serving studies that to the average layman is impossible to 4/?
ChainmailleAddict
It's on us to applaud them for changing their mind when presented with new information. It's a really tough thing to put your pride aside.
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
Not really.
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
Not really that hard to do, I meant.
ChainmailleAddict
It's not hard if you're emotionally-mature, but the brain demands consistency more than truth and disrupting that consistency is painful.
KillerTofu69
Because changing your mind destroys all of your credibility.
beclamide
Confirmation bias affects absolutely everyone to varying degrees
MrMineHeads
Fetuses are alive and human. Scientific fact. Completely inarguable. Anthropogenic climate change is real. Scientific fact.
HolyCowDoNotEat
Plenty of things quality as being “alive” and we still kill them with little remorse or thought. A foetus is “alive,” but why does that 1/
HolyCowDoNotEat
matter? Sincerely, I have no idea why terminating a foetus that has 0% chance of survival outside the womb is an ethical issue.
MrMineHeads
Because it is human.
HolyCowDoNotEat
Oh my god, pull the other one. Humans disregard human life each and every day with no one crying out injustice.
Sprixxen
It is not. The real meat of the matter these days is later-term when the fetus is potentially viable. Judith Jarvis Tomson got the pro 1/2
Sprixxen
choice ball moving again with a libertarian argument, but there's a break now between the 100% choicers and the evictionists. 2/2
HolyCowDoNotEat
Late term abortions where the foetus might be viable are almost entirely done for legitimate medical reasons. Take that argument elsewhere.
Moldyplantproblems
time to start quoting crime stats
OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAOJjM5Pmg
CandidGamera
That's not arguing with scientific facts, that's parroting data. Science is analyzing the data in context.
GamingMule
Black pop % vs crime to start.
HolyCowDoNotEat
It seems very clear cut to me. Black populations are poorer, have worse quality education, have less opportunities etc. Recipe for disaster.
DrejLord
That just goes to show that blacks are targeted at a higher rate. Because crime is equal across the board. Just not arrests/convictions.
venomlash
Not quite true. There ARE still actual disparities, but they go away if you account for poverty rates too.
DrejLord
Yeah socioeconomic issues play a much larger role in "actual" crimes. But if theres a white guy and a black guy both with weed
DrejLord
Walking past a cop. Who does the cop throw against the wall for a random search? The question is rehtorical, we all know the answer
DrejLord
Its been scientifically proven that if you try the same exact case but attach a pic of a white dude or a black dude. The black dude gets
DrejLord
Convicted more frequently, AND received a higher sentence EVERY time. They tested it a dozen different ways with the same results
eathotdog
This is how statistics are used and abused in politics
ChainmailleAddict
Skin color doesn't mean shit. Income % vs. crime, there's a good one. Ethnicity vs. Job call backs, try that.
aTallIrishman
That first sentence is true when it comes to how cops treat people, too
ChainmailleAddict
The first black lady to be allowed in the same school as whites is 65. Black people need more time to catch up with us, and they are.
PaintedSlate
Despite our best efforts, which have in fact had a dramatic and ongoing impact.
Sprixxen
I mean, unfortunately it does even when controlling income. That doesn't prove racism though and we can accept that. There are other 1/2
Sprixxen
issues experienced by the poor black community that the poor white community does not face and these can impact the crime stat. 2/2
Sprixxen
Dismissing this out of hand and refusing to engage with it is a form of benevolent racism that doesn't help towards a viable solution.
SaVillaHg
Then can we recognize that the US accounts for a minimal amount of carbon emissions worldwide and economic suicide will not change anything
ace5762
Hey, there's this thing called 'google'. You should try it sometime. https://www.google.com/search?q=emissions+by+country
dogandfrienddog
You know what messes up economies? Not having a habital planet. Really throws a wrench in things.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Do you have any idea how much money there is to be made in renewable energy? Economic suicide is a myth perpetuated by oil companies
PerryLovewhistle
.
Vampiremooos666
Fuck. These fucking moron are everywhere.
Multipew
Economic suicide by investing in more modern tech? A hundred years ago you'd be whining that cars were killing the horse industry
witless1
We made up 15% of the worlds carbon emissions in 2014. That is not minimal.
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witless1
Source the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data#Country
naytorin
tenaciousjeebs
My hypothesis was that this dude is a troll. After gathering profile data I have concluded that he is not a troll, and have formed an
tenaciousjeebs
Alternate hypothesis that he’s just a world-class dickhead. Example: getting an ADHD diagnosis will not improve the patient’s life. Fuck.
TendsToAgree
A quick Google of "carbon emissions by country" will show you just how wrong you are about that, and there's multiple sources on that.
TendsToAgree
It appears the facts hurt someone's feelings. Oh well.
LiquidSodium
This aint it chief
TendsToAgree
Minimal? China is top, USA is second at a whopping 5.4 Gigatons in 2018.
TendsToAgree
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions
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kkanne20
Alternative facts LMAO has it been that long? Lies! THEYRE CALLED LIES, KELLYANNE. Say it with me...
iambrose
Fuck, was that coined only 3.5, almost 4 years ago?!
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iambrose
Yeah, no I’m almost positive that was like a decade ago at this point. [ I’m so tired ]
N00k
I want to nap but my body won't rest. 'Twas 20 years ago at this point